Variety depends on the partner but some teams are very IBC heavy. Very few pure arbitration teams.

Culture is mostly good. Hours are what you would expect in a standard disputes team but you won't be disturbed on leave etc especially if you are junior. If court is on holiday, you can WFH, dress casually etc. Most bosses are fine. Some are grouchy but only one is evil. If you want WLB choose a diff practice. But there are very few vacancies.

The firm structure in BigLaw relies on consistent attrition to keep things running normally - otherwise you may have clustering of talent which firms cant afford usually, considering how (i) significantly pay can rise year on year for retainers, and (ii) significantly some top level people suck up the firm’s profits (think of the SCAMs, etc). Imagine a scenario where the work culture is so good that not many people leave. Soon enough, you will have too many As lined up to be SAs, too many SAs lined up to be PAs and too many PAs lined up to be Partners. The firm’s financial structure would get fried because of how these things are structured. The only way to make it work would be that everyone takes a pay cut so that the same pie can be shared amongst a larger number of people.

This reality creates a kind of perverse incentive for law firms to maintain bad work cultures that are bearable just enough for the required number of people to stick around. As a result, progression in BigLaw is based on how compliant people are in putting up with stupidity, unfortunately. The only exception is that you bring connections either in the form of clients or high-level government connections.

There are a large number of people who exit the system because of its absurdity irrespective of the fact that they may be a better lawyer than some/most of their colleagues. I’ve seen a fair bit of Partners sell their self-respect as they grew up the associate ranks and they expect that those following them will do the same. I’ve seen associates get dressed down in the most public way continuing when others with a sense of self-respect quit.

The incentive to behave badly will only get entrenched further with time, as earlier (think 2000-2015) the talent pool was much smaller than it is now and will be going ahead. So, unfortunately, GenZ will not be the harbinger of change.

NLUJ Final Numbers: 31 placed via PPOs, 23 placed via DayZ, 3 waitlisted
From an RCC class of about 80 people who wanted placements

And this is mostly T1, I'm not aware of majority of the T2 numbers

Several people are interning at JSA and Indus, and are expecting offers from them by Sep end

If the faculty you seem to think should leave do leave - so you think the law school would retain the dwindling reputation it already has ? Who will get you your scholarships ? and who will get you your publications ? and who will get you international collaborations ? Who will remain who can make a call to their friends in policy/ industry and get you an internship ? The folks who cannot get a job of their own anywhere other than JGLS ?

I do often spend more than three hours at the university. The fact that you want to personalise this is odd to me. Most professors would be teaching two hours at the university a day at least. That’s not the problem. The problem is when the expectation becomes to rot in your office from 9-5. That’s not accountability. That’s hole-watching.

That’s putting HR above what researchers and scholars require to actually be good at their jobs and be an asset to the university .

If JGLS doesn’t want faculty who want to research and write, they should let them know at the point of hiring that they want warm bodies who spend hours on campus pushing paper around.

If they cannot obtain or hold on to people who do good research - they should consider why instead of hiring huge numbers of sub par barely graduates academics and offering them no support or mentorship.

hello, I am confused about how ssrn works. It is not a platform to publish papers right? Just to submit your papers regardless of whether they are published? also do people who submit papers on ssrn put that on their cv? does it add value to the cv? do they put that on linkedin under publications?

thanks!

They’ve screwed the pre existing associates and especially juniors. The bump in grid has been adjusted for in the appraisals and almost everyone has gotten lesser than 15%. The bonuses are not good either and unless you’re in Mumbai in their tax teams, almost every other team is getting shafted.

Massive pay discrimination and where you fall on the spectrum depends on their HR. a ▮▮▮, ELP could’ve retained a LOT of top notch talent.

There is no fixed pay. The Pay increases or decreases proportionately many times every day based on movement of a stock exchange like index released by the management everyday in morning, noon and evening. It is indeed a very complex process wherein lots of physics and calculus get involved.

Hey, I am a 5th-year law student, and I am confused regarding my next internship in December (New Delhi). Should I intern under a senior advocate or a firm? I wanna pursue criminal litigation, and it's time I should start looking for a job.

Also, how is the internship experience with Sr Adv. Tanveer Ahmed Mir, and what work does he give to interns? Does he hire freshers?

I think only when Gen Z would become Partners in future then only WLB will seriously come in law firms lol. I personally think with Gen Z now working in the corporate setup would have lot of changes in the structure of these companies and firms.Really would like to see y'all opinions. Am I right or just being a dululu.

The Ahmedabad office is primarily litigation-based, whereas the Bangalore office handles corporate work, mainly M&A, PE/VC, and some general corporate matters.

Since the Bangalore office is relatively small, the work culture is quite decent and free from toxicity. The pay is on the lower side compared to market standards, likely in the range of 25–35 (depending on how your interview goes).

From a learning perspective, it’s a fantastic place. You’ll get to learn a lot, and the partner is great to work with. If money isn't a great concern, it’s an excellent place to build a strong foundation that will help you in the long run.

Bhai just stop deliberately misinforming people. Whenever you present stats for PPOs and Day Z, always do it for T1 firms or else specify that it includes any random stuff. Our PPOs in T1 firms are less than 20 in number. Day Z T1 offers were significantly lower than 35 too. Anyone can check with someone they know at GNLU

LMAO I think I know too. Many RPs do this actually and openly boast about it and this is also endorsed by many EPs who have overseas clients that can be billed at a higher rate. Hours are shifted into RP accounts so that the overall billing goes up. One dollar-client EP in particular is notorious for this.

If you're a junior at JSA, welcome aboard we have devised many many ways of screwing up your payouts. Arbitrary bonus bands, entirely made up retainer bands, bill share that is at the mercy of benevolent seniors, getting staffed on fixed fee relationship building diligences that pay nothing, we've thought of it all!

I have seen a couple of friends get fired from the team I work in. Not people who resigned or were asked to leave politely, but people who were let go for serious reasons. They were my peers who became friends I met at work. Now, when I meet them outside work, all they do is talk badly. They complain about how toxic it was, how unfair people were.

But I was there and saw how they behaved, how unprofessional and difficult they were and why they were fired. They just try to make me feel awkward for continuing to work at a place I know is actually good for me and my professional growth. Maybe the HR should be clear about the reasons and voluntarily inform the next place they join so they don't blatantly lie about such things openly.

I cannot fathom as to why people think KCO Bangalore is toxic.
Genuinely one of the best places I have worked. The firm culture is great. The partners are understanding and willing to mentor you. Great work and good pay.
The GC work is really good with regular secondee opportunities as well.

The costs of running the firm isn't being counted in your analysis. That top specs of IT you have, the secretaries your teams have, the printer and stuff you take for granted all cost money. In addition - CAC is not just a shark tank term. Firms need to spend a lot of money on BD to get the work in. The recognition in the journals one shows off on linkedin probably cost the firm a few lakhs. So the firms need to factor that in for your hourly rates too!

While you may think hourly you're not being paid - ask a litigation lawyer who is trying to get the clients thats given to you on a platter, or ask someone doing corp law independently how much they would love to have work without sleep.

I think this culture of just ranting about inconveniences is being a trend - why dont you pick up your bags and leave. If you spent hours at the abysmal rate efficiently- you should know bonded labour isn't legal. So please leave. Clearly not going anywhere are you? Go back to your work my friend. The hours may be lesser if you dont spend time with the nonsense here :)

Conceptually agree but just a few corrections. He never left behind Nariman, Jethmalani etc. Its just that his rise coincided with these guys slowly reducing their appearances. Also, Salve to the best of my knowledge didn't brief him, he was Palkhiwala's junior, but I may be wrong here.

Lastly, if you remove the recent political cases, his body of work isnt as great on seminal matters in past. And all these matters are again muti counsel matters. Eg Electoral bonds case really was led by Prashant Bhushan, Article 370 has a huge list of counsel, in fact Raju Ramachandran was instrumental in it getting to Constitution bench, Ayodhya had so many seniors with Rajiv Dhavan really leading and so on. So honestly, is he good, yes. Very good - i think he's now arguing matters for causes which resonate with him or where he feels strongly about and some part of his advocacy now contains a bit of his outrage on what he sees as wrong (as opposed to say Dr. AMS, who's laser focused on points of law and not passionate arguments). Alltime - honestly, no. Had he not been in Government, probably he would have done much more legal work and that credit needs to be given to him.

Hello the kind folks of LI! I deeply desire to intern under Justice Pardiwala, I hope to give my best shot at applying for the same. However, I wish to decipher the realistic chances of making the cut, how competitive the internship is and whether or not a non-NLU kid with decent past internships (HC Judges, T2 firm & Senior Counsel) has a shot at securing the internship? Furthermore, what is the atmosphere at the Chamber like, esecially w.r.t the Law Clerks?

While reckoning that I must not be asking these questions, however, I could not resist the temptation since I fervently want to convert this opportunity. This is not another attempt at securing a prestigious internship; it stems from a genuine admiration for the HMJ's illustrious career and contributions to the law. I will be grateful for any & every insight on this topic.

Yesterday, I came across a reel by a Gen Z creator, who had reasonable number of followers, and living chill life, celebrating his Bachelor of Commerce (BCom) convocation with the soul-touching song from “3 Idiots”: “Saari umar hum maar maar ke ji liye, ek pal toh ab hume jeene do” It wasn’t the degree that struck me, all degrees are valuable, but the overdramatization of an ordinary academic milestone!!?? Let’s be honest: degrees like B.Com often serve as stepping stones, not major endpoints.

What bothered me was how this narrative overshadowed the quiet struggles of countless CA aspirants, IITians, MBA, CFA, CS, Law students, and others who are genuinely hustling, juggling intense coursework, night jobs, and real-life pressures. They live out that struggle silently, without any hype or overdramatization.

But I also remind myself: not every Gen Z kid is an attention seeker. Our generation faces real battles, mental health, financial stress, social anxieties, peer/family pressure and the constant push to keep up. Unfortunately, a few flashy voices paint us all with one brush, fostering the stereotype that Gen Z is entitled or dramatic. That’s simply unfair.

So, to older generations/old school people: please look deeper before judging any Gen Z kid. Many of us are working hard and quietly. And to my peers: celebrate your wins, but let’s not inflate the ordinary or dilute the meaning of grit with too much drama.

Yes, I’m a Gen Z kid but I’m not that Gen Z kid.

India is really, really, really screwed if this happens. Only a few lakh educated taxpayers are keeping this country afloat. What happens when their jobs disappear? 😥No money will be left for the government to give doles to the remaining population, who are uneducated and poor. Worse, the educated minority will also be living on the streets!

it’s also inevitable that many lawfirm jobs will disappear. Looks like AI is a million times worse than the atom bomb.😨

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/microsoft-ai-list_l_6890ea3ee4b0ef7cc79e6f76/amp

Nalsar also claimed 100% placement when they placed only 95 out of the 137 odd students in the batch for the batch of 2025. The fact that you don't have a basic understanding of how placement stats are calculated shows how out of touch you are with reality. This way, no college in the world will ever have close to 90% placement.

Ivy league Indian colleges like NLS, NALSAR, NUJS - in no particular order, will remain on the top regardless of generations. These are the daddies.

NUJS will remain ivy league only if they work on areas apart from corp placements (like getting a new campus for starters) which are honestly the best among law schools they have cracked the code, but the infra - it does not look any better than a local college.

NLUD is just fine, it's still in toddler phase so by 2040 it will be ivy league, their current good NIRF ranking here does not matter because if you take a look at it some random ass colleges get better rank than most NLUs - very not credible - everyone in the fraternity knows the reality. NLUJ, GNLU and NLIU are embryos so by 2040 they will be rank 4th 5th and 6th not in any particular order. ILS, GLC were good but now they are in senile old age (all we can do is talk about their glorious past).

as of colleges like SLS Pune - it is good, while Jindal/ JGLS admits literally anyone, like most illiterate people also have a shot at JGLS, so IQ wise they are poor, all they have is money which is also black money, I have a lawyer friend from Jindal, he does not even how to use manupatra SCC. JGLS is like an antithesis of NUJS, NUJS is good but no campus, Jindal is no good and has one good thing which is campus.

Also, mnlu mumbai has a shot if they work hard enough.

rest all colleges, forget it.

In-house sr lawyer and speaking more as a potential recruiter here.

If you want to transition to in-house, a decent experience on contracts is a pre-requisite. Stand-alone lit experience would mean that you get only pure lit roles in in-house teams or roles where you continue to draft responses etc - neither would be giving a clearer route to sr roles. Very large legal teams ask for specific lit experience but those roles are much lesser in number.

So, you should get some contract drafting experience if the target is an in-house role.

I made 26L as an A1 couple of years back in the post pandemic boom. Felt nice to be the most well paid A1 in the country but the constant number game gets to you.

They have gamified the whole process where you can track your bill share/hours on a portal lol - not fun for mental health