To decide the best professors you can't rely on students' perceptions alone. Many Professors are not in active teaching rather they do research. Secondly, all the vital info regarding them may not be known to us so this effort is absurd.

By the way, it is interesting to know which law schools has the highest number of "professors" ( regular only). Find out and share.

I saw the Infosys channel posting about their Infosys prize laureate Sudhir Krishnaswamy and I must say when he was walking out of NLS in slow motion , it was so inspiring. I want you all to see it as well.

https://youtu.be/EigOvAoG44M

Recently MP govt. issues notification about amendment in eligibility criteria for Civil Judges in MP.

The said amendment contain "either 3yr practice or (70% aggregate marks + passed all educ. exams in one attempt)".

What are your take on the said amendment ???

Hey

This post is for Partners only. How many of you still have panic attacks? Is it normal or is it a sign that one needs to move on from law? How many of you go for therapy and does it really help?

Obviously answers would be anonymous, but I would appreciate the insights.

Hi everyone,

I am a 2023 graduate from t2 Nlu, I wanted to seek advice that since i have graduated haven't got any opportunity in the gen corp firms. After applying to various places i have got at govt sort of PSU 1 year contractual job in the dispute arena. So just wanted to know whether after working for 1 year would it be helpful for transitioning to a law firm for a gen corp role. Please advise

Looks mean a lot in the corporate world. Many top-tier corporate people wont even look at you if you wear cheap clothes. It's extremely important to dress well and look smart. My advice would be to absolutely buy high-end brands. You can easily afford it if you work in a good firm. It's also important for both men and women to regularly go to the gym to look slim and to visit the salon for face treatments (bleaching and skin-lightening to look fair + facial and anti-wrinkle treatments to look young). Look at people like Adarsh Ponawalla, Gautam Singhania, Nita Ambani, Namita Thapar etc. If you dress like a tramp in front of such people, be prepared to be treated like one. Snowflakes may think that I sound rude, but I am being brutally frank.

but i am not writing stuff praising him here every week. I'm just tired of this whole bullying thing. Its disgusting. If you make an allegation that someone is ▮▮▮, ▮▮▮, high handed, whatver- its on you to actually prove it. if a website publishes that stuff again and again with no proof. proof- the thing lawyers know something about. and it does so only about this one person while censoring any kinds of allegation about anyone else- that is obviously libelous and defamatory and just plain unfair. Its bullying. Its cowardly to make these allegations under the cloak of anonymity. No one can tell if youre a reliable witness or not. But given the position that it is ever justified to throw fireworks in to someones room- one can imagine these are not people who understand the law.

Exactly what objectionable behaviour? That he expected students to do work and read? that he tried to improve the standard of legal education? that he wasnt handing out grades like candy? thats enough to throw firecrackers in his room? he wasnt there- but he could have been. We dont know which way the causation works here. These students dont hesitate from committing violence- I do not trust that they were angels in the classroom.

I know plenty of NLS students who will appreciate the things sudhir has done for them. They might whine about having to work harder- but they understand the value of that. and I'm done with people like you dragging the rest of us down.

Do you need to know the law to practice or not? Do you need to learn how to find and understand and analyse the law or not? Sudhir doesn't do some obscure legal theory stuff- hes a fairly middle-of-the-road doctrinal scholar. I think your problem is that you dont actually want to learn the law at all. You dont want to do the work. You want someone who will put everything on a PPT, tell you what the case says instead of expecting you to read it and helping you to understand the way doctrine has developed. when you say you want to practice- How do students know what they will need to practice? They dont know the law and they dont know the profession. Why should we trust them with curriculum design? Do you really think this lack of interest in the law is gonna play well in the profession? The profession is NOT all hustle- its not all scamming clients- its not all reproducing the same boilerplate drafts. you do at the end of the day need to be able to do the things lawyers do.

And the idea that you think youre the majority is laughable. At least at the best NLUS- people actually want to learn the law. You are dragging the rest of us down. we already like the law. we need our professors to challenge us, hold us to high standards, and meet those standards themselves. Which Sudhir does. Of course he helps students who appreciate the work hes doing. Thats human nature- youre not entitled to special attention . I wouldnt waste time mentoring students who were plain disinterested in the law.

What exactly has sudhir done that has been cruel or lacking in empathy? make a clear provable falsifiable allegation ratheer than just throwing these words around. You clearly just have an ax to grind and the fact that this libelous stuff gets published here every other week is disgusting.

If these are the kinds of students that think its appropriate to put fire crackers in a professors room. It doesnt take a genius to understand what he had to deal with the rest of the semester. Its ridiculous to make these bullies out to be pure as white driven snow and obvious victims. Let me make it clear- IT IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE TO HURT OTHER PEOPLE. not if they give you bad grades, not if they dont teach the way you want, not if they disagree with you about anything. we live in a rule of law society. What the students did is at the very least mischief under the IPC, and at most it is assault/ grevious hurt. Nothing sudhir did is in the same category.

"Any options for LLM . . . in India?"

From a hiring perspective, no. No T1 law firms give any value to Indian LLMs and there is a negligible framework for hiring coordination in most of the top 5 NLUs (which suggests that that's the scene everywhere in India). For T2-T3 law firms, it's mostly a question of securing internships and performing there, but most top law firms would be wary of having interns who have cleared the bar exam.

And specifically in competition law, I can confirm that no half-decent practice is likely to have openings for an Indian LLM student on merit. If you have contacts, well....then you don't really need an LLM anyway.

I am an A3, Solicitor, working at a Tier 2 and also taking up my own matters. I started dating a guy who joined as an Associate at my firm during the first year of my Articleship. My Boyfriend quit law to join his family business and I was still working at my firm. We tied the knot in December 2022 when I was an A2.

Now, since my husband has already been a part of the industry, he knows how insane work gets at times. But we make it a point to go out often, to spend as much time we have together. I am planning to start my own practice full time, things will get rough in the initial years, but we are in for the bigger game.

Hey guys! I'm very confused 😕, as a fourth year law student. I need a guide if I should go for judiciary exam or corporate law. Furthermore, I have some doubts that I'll be able to clear judiciary exam(a lot to study and still no guarantee that there'll be vacancy right after my graduation, clear krne ki baat to door rhi), and a very vague idea about corporate sector. All I know about corporate is that it's hectic, tiring, a lot of work pressure, no balance between work and life, but it pays.... So without exaggerating, could you give me a clear picture of corporate life, and is it even worth giving up on judiciary.

NDA - 17.4 lakhs (1lakh per month for first 6 months (25k each month retained) then 1.35lakhs for the next 12 months (10k each month retained) then you are paid the retained 2.7 lakhs upon completion of 18 months).

Plus possible bonus of another 3 lakhs (depending on billings) -this varies may be offered or may not be depending upon firm financials.

Bro even last year I think someone with air 34 joined gnlu. This Yr a girl is leaving nalsar for gnlu thru nri sponsored.

I am not even kidding. It's verified information. She is from hyderabad and she is leaving nalsar and is going to pay 40 lakhs more for gnlu thru nri

So does this mean gnlu>nalsar?

Plenty of better teachers and scholars compared to Sudhir has taught at NUJS. NUJS didn't need or use him, it has always been the other way around. The fact that he's a VC today, he owes to NUJS. Nowhere else would he have got the chance to become a professor at such a young age without the requisite formal credentials. He had his Godfather in MP Singh, that's all. Same thing happened for his VC position at NLSIU.

As far as separate entrance exams go, which was what the comparison was about, it is not wrong. What NLUD does with AILET is plain and simple a bad practice. I have no doubt about its quality as an institution. However, this is still a practice that should be called out for the benefit of all law aspirants throughout the country. It shouldn't be justified or glorified like the trolls try to do here.

I’m 22f, would be starting with my final year. I think I have an okay-CV and I’m from a not-so prestigious private college. I am good at what I do and my hold on research is strong. I have asked for recommendations twice which have ended with men indirectly hinting towards going on a date or a fully-paid trip with them. How am I supposed to get recommendations from people without getting potentially trapped in return-favour?

Pay at Chennai firms are generally shit. This is because Chennai doesn't have any (really) thriving national practices (big law firms) chennai Corp practice is mostly run by senior counsels. Even top notch firms in chennai like HSB hardly pay 25K per month. Even ICUL pays less than 40K. JSA, SAM etc have small local teams they pay 70K I guess.

Chennai legal market is mostly from Tamil Nadu, unlike Bangalore, Delhi or Mumbai.

https://kalamkarii.wordpress.com/2023/06/30/queer-voices-in-law-schools/?fbclid=PAAaYqThJ6msxAMkSa-2ZSnKS-4B3bE7vV25zVwytYC4TB1lklqa_MTaBmfxk

This is a detailed analysis of the queer alliances functioning in different law schools across the country, focusing on their status of affairs, experiences and the future ahead. Definitely a fresh read considering the scarce of inter-NLU initiatives. More such collaborations on different fronts should take place!

Swaminathan, JGLS. Scholar par excellence. What a guy. He's also a great teacher. He's one of the leading legal theorists of our time and perhaps the only one in India. I'm surprised more people don't talk about him.

Also, you must realise that this sort of a list is very difficult to compile. Since students' exposure to professors is largely limited to their college, it is hella difficult to make a "Best law profs in India" list. This will just be a trollish echo chamber for students yelling the names of their favourite law school profs. The only way profs can be objectively judged across the country, is through scholarship.

I don't think there's much point in doing an LLM if what you're looking for is employability. Sure while there is some name value to a LLM, most firms really don't care about that. But if you're adamant on doing an LLM anyways, Jindal. The university at least focuses on their LLM students a little and the courses offered are quite diverse. Perhaps you should use this opportunity to really delve into a certain area of law, gain some significant expertise on it. Really gotta make that domain your bitch. Then you can probably leverage this so as to boost your chances of getting hired at a firm. Best of luck to you and godspeed!

While your second point about student-run journals is well taken, there's definitely is a good amount of difference between even NLSIR, NUJS l. rev etc and JGLR. JGLR has significantly more original and innovative contributions from authors that are carefully thematized(every edition is). JGLR is definitely much better known internationally in the academy and is a more "scholarly" journal, if that makes sense, but the NLU journals certainly come into the limelight more when they're cited by the SC and all. But if you being to close read the contents of most of the articles of these journals, you will realise they say A LOT, but not anything very original. For example, while Jain's article that's been cited by the SC recently in the abortion case is definitely a good read, it doesn't really say anything much of its own.

Perhaps I was misunderstood. My rationale for saying see the difference for yourself was not to signify that JGLR is better, most definitely not. But perhaps that JGLR has more "academic" articles, whatever that is, which SCOPUS might tend to prefer. But your point about the student run journals is definitely worth taking into consideration. While I have not seen any inherent bias in indexing of student run law university journals in the US, UK, Germany etc., it is definitely worth noting that there is a trust deficit of Indian journals that haunts the academy at large and thus your point may in fact be valid.

Above all what I'm concerned about is why everyone is behind this SCOPUS race honestly. Kya chutiya criterion hain. Fuck Scopus. Creates too much pressure amongst academics also. Perhaps it is best that universities stop these dick measuring contests about who's got more scopus publications.

That's the problem. He's nice to 'scholars'. But only 'scholars'. Some of us don't want to be 'scholars'

Some of us just want to practice law. Some of us don't want to wax eloquent about the supposedly transformative power of law or have meandering philosophical debates about the abstruse jurisprudential based of the law. It would be real nice if he could be nice to us sometimes too.

JSA - Bill sharing after tge 1st year,which itger firm offers?No brainer,its first choices on my list, altho not on ur list.

Luthra -At rebirth stage,Its a risky option but if you stick it out here and the firm grows,I would automatically grow.High risk High reward.

SAM- The brand name of SAM is great,deaoure CAM destroying its own brand name and also legacy of Amarchand name.

Khaitan-one of the better grabs with less toxicity.Work environment is tough,not so much rough like a AZB.

In case you did not notice, NLUJ's website also has a bunch of lies under the placements section. They have mentioned listed companies and even PORSHE as recruiters. I creamed my pants when I first read that in my first year prior to joining NLUJ, I was already dreaming of giving my inputs on the new GT3RS and researching on loopholes in emissions and speed limit laws to decide where to launch Taycan Turbo S. Turns out it was a lie as our day zero takes place next month and only 13 law firms + ICICI are participating, which is super underwhelming.

I completed the course and I must say that my experience was mixed. While the course had its merits, it also had several drawbacks that affected my overall satisfaction.
One of the main aspects that disappointed me was the organization of the course resources. They were poorly organized and did not meet my expectations in terms of quality. The summary of the chapters was particularly subpar, providing little value and making it difficult to revise and missed the main concepts.

One aspect I appreciated about the course was Dhruv's genuine enthusiasm for teaching. His passion and dedication shone through, and he shared valuable techniques and real-life examples from his own experiences. These insights added a personal touch and made the content more relatable.

However, Dhruv's English-speaking skills were not particularly strong. There were instances where his explanations weren't as clear as they could have been. I found myself having to conduct additional research to gain a better understanding of the productivity techniques discussed in the course.

Additionally, the course did not include subtitles. Although I personally didn't mind the lack of subtitles due to Dhruv's understandable accent. This could be a potential disappointment for those who rely on subtitles for a more comprehensive learning experience.

Another point that affected my overall perception of the course was its price. Even with the 40% discount coupon, the course was still more expensive than other average time management courses available in the market.

The price point, coupled with the shortcomings mentioned earlier, made it harder for me to justify the value I received in return. I recommend potential learners to carefully evaluate their expectations and consider alternatives before enrolling in this course.

Out of hnlu,rmlnlu,nlu odisha and rgnul my preference would be hnlu>nluo>rmlnlu>rgnul as far as the pertinent parameters like placements, faculty etc are concerned.

If you are not bothered about placements and it's the city life that matters to you I would then suggest you to opt for RML. It is in the heart of the city and is quite liveable. Personally, I feel that even if you don't want to go to hnlu for certain reasons, you must opt for NLUO over RML due to its promising placement scene. Rgnul should be the last option whatsoever.

Patiala is a sleepy town and does not have anything apart from a few pubs like elevate(run by the husband of a faculty member), Omaxe Mall, 2-3 CCDs etc. It is foolish to compare it with Raipur which is a bustling city with all sorts of dining and entertainment options. It is easier to travel to Raipur as it has an Airport and a railway station which is well connected to major cities. Patiala peg aur salwar ka naam pehle se sunna hoga isliye tum keh rahe ho ki patiala better hai...what logic is this dude?

On top of that, Sidhuwal jaate jaate haalat kharab ho jaati hai bus station se😅😅

My advice to you would be to avoid rgnul at all costs

Hi. I am a fourth year law student. Can someone explain the funds practice to me at law firms. What is the scope like? How different is it really from private equity? What are some good firms where I can intern for funds?

In addition, what kind of working hours is there? Is it even worse than cap market working hours?

We recently had a thread about law firm salary and it's only fair that we have some updated information in the litigation practice. Please share your salary/pay with your experience, courts where you practice. Could be independent or in a chamber, please share the names as well for a realistic picture.