Hey,

I am a recent graduate and have secured assessment at Bridge Policy Think Tank, New Delhi. Can someone give reviews about the work culture, kind of work, salary for freshers, and any other important information about it? I want to enter the field of legal policy. Can this be a right place to start and what are the career prospects?

Thanks.

A1 at a Tier 2 - make about 75k a month post taxes (Also includes some income from trading). I live with my family so there are no house rents to be paid.

Little info - I have been brought up in a middle class family with a very modern outlook. My parents have sacrificed a lot to make sure my brother and I have quality education and become respected members of the society. All through these years we have never been on international trips or owned a 4 wheeler. Now, its my turn to give them a more than comfortable life.

20k towards household expenses. I hand it over to my mom. She spends/saves it the way she deems fit and proper, No questions asked.

15k towards long term SIP

1500 for health insurance

4k for my personal expenses which also includes shopping.

25k a year towards charity.

I am a teetotaler and live a pretty decent minimalistic life. The rest of the money is saved or invested in some or the other funds. My boyfriend and I are tying the knot this December, so a chunk of the savings is going to be spent there.

I plan to buy a second hand car within the range of 2 - 2.5l by next year.

It's important to note that this decision was about race being a factor in admission proceedings. The SCOTUS had rejected race based quotas long ago. This ruling further narrowed how race could be looked at in admissions processes (although it did not hold that race could not be looked at at all).

Anyway, US affirmative action jurisprudence is going to have no impact on India. The battle against reservation in education institutes (both private and government) has been lost. The battle for only caste based quotas has been lost. The battle for 50 percent limit has been lost. The new battleground is going to be reservation in private jobs (initially blue collar but also white collar in time). I have little doubt that that battle will also be lost. The only trend for reservation in India in the near future is onwards and upwards.

Some steps that i followed to lose ~ 10 kg in 4 months. FYI - i left law firm to join in-house where I have saner hours and a better chance of working on my fitness. I am also not naturally pre-disposed to sports and exercise - so I had to work on building these habits. It will take a some determination to focus on your health despite your busy schedule. But as I realised - it is not rocket science to lose weight.

1. Drastic steps don't work. Try to settle on something that you can consistently follow.

2. To lose weight - create a calorie deficit in a healthy manner (basically eating 1500-1700 calories a day) + burn atleast 300 calories a day through exercise. This generally leads to 0.5kg loss per week in my experience.

Some tips to get you started.

1. As a first step - Start tracking the calories you typically consume in a day. Start using a calorie counter. Healthifyme is great. You will be surprised to find how many calories you end up eating in seemingly harmless meals. For example - your aloo tikki burger packs ~339 calories. fries have ~470 calories for a medium sized portion. it doesn't even fill you up.

2. After you do this for a few days - you will get a sense of what generally eat over a week. Some foods that you eat will be good - less calorific, high in protein and other nutrients. Others will be empty carbs. Just eliminate the latter ones. You will realise that junk food on a regular basis needs to be tossed out to make any meaningful progress.

3. I suggest - have a balanced diet - a good mix of carbs, proteins, fats, vitamins and fibre. Don't go for things like keto or fruit diet or liquid diet. If you are vegetarian - go with panner, lots of veggies, switch to millets (jowar, bajra, ragi) over regular wheat flour. In a few days - you will see improvement in your gut health. Do have eggs.

4. Try to have three main meals a day and two small meals. Keep within the calorie budget.

5. Regular exercise has lots of benefits. Start slow. definitely do weight training. It is more satisfying. Spin bike is a great form of cardio - if you are overweight as running can affect your knees. If you can't hit the gym - buy a bench, some dumbbells, resistance bands, a bar-bell and weights for home. They do the trick.

6. Try to achieve a 70-80% consistency in the above. You will see progress.

I am an lawyer turned businessman, my wife is an A3 at a tier 2 and also freelances. We live in a 4BHK apartment with my parents, my younger brother and grand parents. My mom is a home maker, my dad goes to his store to keep himself busy. My grand parents have retired for about 20 years, they devote their time to social and religious activities, my brother is a CA and does well for himself.

Here is a snapshot of our expenses

10k groceries

12k maid for meals and dusting

3k electricity (Our apartment is well ventilated and has balconies on all sides hence the consumption of electricity for fans and light is minimal)

6k CNG and maintenance

15k health insurance

10k for shopping

10k for meeting exigencies

3k for weekends and dining

20k for annual vacation and short trips

We are debt free. We live a simplistic life with comfort.

My savings are roughly 70k a month to 120k depending on how much profit the business has generated. We are planning to start a family and know that the expenses will shoot through the roof.

My wife is also currently saving up about 30k/35k a month to fund her working capital requirements when she starts her own firm either a sole proprietor or partners up with someone

It's called being in touch with reality, maybe you should try it instead of living in a delusional world with an inflated sense of self arising from some institutional association?

I'm pretty fkn proud of my alma mater considering how great the student body is and how helpful my network is.

The above doesn't negate the fact that the college admin is dogshit (to say the least). The quality of professors is beyond terrible - 4th year onwards, we used to tell them what the course curriculum ought to be like basis what we picked up on internships (had to do this because the "profs" were former PGs who didn't have any actual experience in the subjects the taught). No financial support used to be provided for moots (i understand this has changed but I'm not sure if in a meaningful manner). Harassment in many forms.

The student body would persevere against those odds and do extremely well for themselves regardless. So, I'm pretty proud. But also in touch with reality. Try it, you'll be better placed.

Guys we have seen varied packages in different websites. But it’s time to burst the misconceptions and face the real music. What is considered a good salary in tier-1? And honestly , how much is the maximum range? For instance a candidate having a decent profile (not 1-10 , but say 1-20) , couple of moots and three/four publications. What can be considered a good salary? My question lies also in general. That example was only one instant.

as long as you do the mandatory canadian law modules you can appear for their bar exam

many schools have those modules in LLM, effectively making them like a QLD

however, speak to the admissions tutor of the law school and ask them specifically if you will be eligible to sit for the bar exam

it is easier to get jobs than in the UK

if you are willing to do low level work there are plenty of opportunities as a solicitor in canada

Hi, I am planning to practice maritime law after graduation. Can anyone please share things to keep in mind and which firms are mostly likely to hire (PPO) students from non-nlu not-much-heard-of-colleges?

I have done two internships in maritime firms (not in Mumbai) and have a few publications in the area of law.

Also can anyone please share how much the firm's like Bose and Mitra, Renata, Ganesh and co etc pay to freshers?

Ofc. See I personally don’t prefer Durham much for jurisprudence , it’s a place where people major in English. However UCL is one of the best colleges in UK rn. If you certainly get it , do take it. The process is a bit competitive. But both of these places will be better than Nujs.

Once again, you are trying to pass off Sudhir's objectionable behaviour as a teacher as a reaction to that incident, which is laughable. He behaved like that for several years and if anything, the incident was a reaction to his behaviour, though not condonable. Bodily harm? It was done when he was not in the room. This clearly shows how clueless you are about the entire incident. And if Sudhir has been good to some people, that does not excuse his bad behaviour towards others. As for his amazing beneficence, why don't you ask the current NLS students and admin staff who are suffering under his high-handedness? He helps only those whom he likes personally, for the rest there is a different standard. I have attended his classes and he fails to cater to the needs of majority of the students. A class is not meant for the teacher to show off his scholarship, but to help students to understand and like the subject. Above all, I would 100% agree to what others are saying about his lack of empathy. His behaviour occasionally ▮▮▮, albeit under a suave veneer. As for his vaunted scholarship, even that is questionable, since he rarely publishes in any quality peer review journal.

He lacked empathy based on his behaviour to the students during his tenure. Some students reacted to his behaviour in a childish fashion. That action did not lead to his behaviour, rather it was a reaction to such behaviour. NUJS teaches people to actually think and use logic. You clearly did not get such lessons. Further, nobody has ever compared Sudhir with the other person whom you named. There have been and still are several good faculty members who have taught or are teaching here, who have been treated with the respect that they are due. Sudhir does not fall within that category, despite you clearly being his fanboy.

Cannot speak for those, but from India, multiple applications have been refused by SCOPUS on that ground itself. They sought among other things the publication records of the editors. Students cannot be expected to have that. Moreover, both Elsevier and Thomson Reuters are private organisations running those platforms on profit motive, as people from academia actually know. Indexation is no longer a guarantee of quality and there have been allegations that Elsevier has given the impression to certain applicants that indirect subscriptions and monetary contribution may be an unspoken factor in indexation.

Speaking as someone from NUJS, I would only like to say that we can, should and will go ahead with improving ourselves including but not limited to the good work mentioned above, but for any of that, we do not need to criticise NLUD or any other university or their practices. They are free to do what they deem fit. We would rather focus on the students who do join us and the research that we can keep doing. This ranking race is an abhorrent one that trolls have hijacked to indulge in bad blood and bad faith actions. The more the universities try to serve their students and the general public, the better. That does not have to take place in an adversarial manner but a cooperative one.

Not true at all. I come from a very state university and applied to Lexy. Was called for an interview around 3 months after my application. Did not clear the interview though (I blew it up).

Based on the threads on LI, the work environment is not that great, but neither is at tier 1s. So choose your own devil I guess.

NLUD is the challenger which seeks to unseat NUJS from the top 3 NLU positions. To achieve this NLUD had consciously taken a decision, about 6 years ago, to submit false recruitment data to lure in unsuspecting students to NLUD. As we all know the quality of students matter in order to produce marketable graduates. This was also the period when NUJS had a poorer show under Bhatt. Therefore, some commentariat are under the delusion that NLUD is in no. 3 position. However, to break your reveries, may I put in some internal secrets from NUJS - it has outspent other NLUs on research funding (calculated on per faculty member, you can double check using NIRF data), it has maintained its undisputed superiority in student recruitment (inspite of NLUDs fake data scandals, again you can check the LI NIRF thread on this), NUJS is going to launch a course (in partnership with a QS top 10 law uni) in 2024 which is going to be a gamechanger in Indian academia (and no it is not a student exchange agreement which most other top NLUs have), NUJS under the new management has set SCOPUS quotas for faculty members and it has already borne results this year and will unseat all other NLUs in terms of citation per faculty member in 2024, with new courses on BSc LLB and forensic science combo NUJS will have a head start when it is made mandatory that all police districts must have 3 forensic-law experts by 2030, and as we know once you have captured the initial market it is very difficult to displace the leader. So, it not us people who are insecure but #FAKELUD who seem to have problem with real data.

Desai dewanji is very small, when I interned, they required pqe of 8+ years for associate. AZB too very small and ▮▮▮ place to work.Lega Logic is the most sought after and only decent place to work in Pune.Also, Trilegal and Spice Route Legal is opening up it's office so things might be better now .

Decided to visit all the T1 NLU websites and to rank them, here's my subjective opinion on them. Keep in mind I have no experience with web designing so it's all a bunch of opinionated bullcrap.

1) NLS: 9/10. Fantastic UI and UX and is very well formatted, meets international standards even. Great job done in creating the website.

2) NALSAR: 4.5/10. Poor colour scheme, pop up ads present, the formatting is very poor with all of the links available on the website being displayed simultaneously. Going through it feels like a chore. It does provide decent coverage about what all goes on in the college but still, well below average. An institution of NALSAR's calibre should be doing much better.

3) NLUD: Weird case with it having two websites, nludelhi.ac.in being one and nationallawuniversitydelhi.ac.in being the other. The former provides all the necessary information but looks very lacklustre and outdated. 5/10 for it. The latter however, is similar to the NLS design and is very sleek. However, much of the information required for curious students is not present on the latter website so will have to dock points for it with a score of 7/10.

4) NUJS: 5.5/10. Extremely boring website reminiscent of typical old school government websites. Provides all the necessary information but nothing beyond that. Dull but still does what it needs to do so a 5.5 score (average) is fair. The student administration website is actually better than the main website.

5) NLUJ: 6/10. Provides all the necessary information and has an ok enough user experience and interface but is fairly boring. Nothing much to say about it really.

6) GNLU: 7/10. A slightly drab colour scheme and has advertisements but everything else is great about it. Comprehensive coverage of the college and very easy to use and get around. Professional if I had to describe in one word.

7) NLIU: 5/10. Provides decent coverage about the institution but just doesn't really evoke anything within you. Something about it just seems horrifically dull and uncanny. Still, it does its job and doesn't really do anything all that badly.

Therefore, in terms of their websites, I'd rank the T1 NLUs in the following order, with it being: NLS>>GNLU>NLUD=NLUJ>NUJS>NLIU>NALSAR

It was an ad for this course on cyber forensics. It seems a bit cringe, but just checking whether it's worth it? Also, isn't there more scope for techies in this field rather than lawyers?

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Extremely alarming news, coz law firm associate literally have Diet Coke everyday during lunch!

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/whos-cancer-research-agency-say-aspartame-sweetener-possible-carcinogen-sources-2023-06-29/

Pretty accurate on the IP firms.

Although for Intll I think it can go till 40-45.

And for Mason as well around 30-35.

Additionally,

Anand and Anand - 35

Lall and Sethi - also around 35ish.

Sujata Chaudhri - around 40-45.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hey I am currently working as an In-house legal consultant in a small city with 30k salary. I have 6 months experience. I wanted to know where can I apply with chances of getting in with a decent salary considering my only 6 months of experience. I am interested in the litigation team.

Try to ask for feedback from senior associates/partners, identify if there is one particular team that you're working very closely with(in case you've been taking work from multiple teams). Typically as someone who has been in a similar position, I tried to bring this up for discussion during a break or during the end of the day, so you're not disturbing them during work. They must have already discussed internally regarding your performance and everything, so just try to go and talk to the nicest person in your opinion. Hope you get the offer! :')

A template text to send if you're looking to network on LinkedIn.

"Hello, I hope my message finds you well. I noticed you just started as an associate at so and so firm. I'm interested in so and so field, I was wondering if you could guide me through the process of applying at so and so firm. I'd be really grateful!"

Something along these lines if you just want to know the process on how to apply to a certain firm, you can always try to strike up a conversation about a particular area of law or if they've made a recent post on linkedin.

I'm currently an A1 at a tier-2 firm in Mumbai. I've been thinking of pursuing other things on the side, such as CS or CA (just the exams, not the actual training; and only for educational purposes).

I recently thought of going for a DU SOL Degree. Would it be more beneficial than a CS/CA-exams cleared status or is it something that's looked down upon?

I have a job interview in one day's time at a tier 1 firm.

I just want to know what subjects I should focus on for a disputes practice, and where can I find concise study material for the same.

Everything on my resume will already be on my tips. Please, any help would be appreciated.

I see that a lot of universities and institutes offer PG Diplomas on various law subjects such as IP Law, Competition Law etc. I want to practice in the field of IP law and was wondering if these ad any value to my profile in the eyes of a prospective employer or even an admission committee for an LLM. I hadn't realised this earlier but these diplomas cost a pretty penny with ones from NLUs going up to 50-60k. I don't mind shelling out the money but I just want it to be worth it. Also any other IP course I an enrol in to build my profile? I know WIPO offers some courses on their website.

i recently completed my masters in law from amity university noida and graduation from ip university should i apply in tier 1 firm or tier 2 firm or any other . secondly can anyone suggest me any good firm where i can get placed considering i secured 69 percent in ballb and 73 percent in llm. and lastly how much salary i can expect