Hello, I understand a disputes team handles every work which comes their way, including commercial litigation, arbitration, NCLT, SAT matters etc.

1. What I want to know is that do they have departments/ teams in their disputes team which handle niche areas such as international arbitration, securities litigation, tax etc. or are the associates expected to know everything?

2. I am interested in securities law, would like to know the subjects (other than securities law) which I need to understand in order to be in disputes team while building my niche in securities. Thank you.

What your 'tiny brain' fails to understand my friend is that they don't see drastic increments and huge bonuses over time like lawyers do. Therefore, lawyers can invest that extra amount/bonus as per their preference in range of equity/MF's instead of having your entire equity in stock of your employer company which may not perform very well over 4-5 years and has high risk associated to it since diversification is not possible.

Who told you this? Brother/sister I don’t know if you know this or not , MBA programmes are known for their opportunity cost. I did my BA-LLB from a tier-1 , I can vouch for even the work hours. And it’s definitely not ‘slightly more’. Our compensation is way higherrr. People hold me in high regard because of my MBA background especially even though I come from a tier-1 NLU, I have decided to further my degree and not give in to stupid work hours at law firms. PE is wayyy more streamlined. Also the skills I learnt at a tier-1 law firm definitely helped me in my MBA degree

What’s on god’s earth are you talking about? HNLU’s placement figures are wayyy brighter. Dude the median package increased this year and the college has broken records. Odisha has included tier-3 marketing firms in their placement record and I ain’t even kidding. Their median has even fallen below 5 lakhs because of this. Fact check karo

This is exactly what is wrong with you guys who are in college today. Its all about what other people should do for you and nothing at all about what you should do for other people.

Not one peep about holding up academic integrity, not plagiarising, and making a good faith effort to learn the law. Not one peep about starting new things on campus, on helping people in sharmirpet and in hyderabad. Nothing even about the struggles of workers on campus.

You want great faculty? Be great students who will challenge shitty profs and refuse easy grades. Call out a lack of academic integrity in the place. Make it worth it for a sid c or pranav or rahul or aakanksha or a sahana to stick around a while. stop feeding the egos and justifying the presence of scam profs who hand out easy grades and often either dont know their subject or cant be bothered to teach it. You approach people you want to learn from and ask them to send course outlines- you negotiate that with the university. Take an active part in improving your own institution. If you guys arent honest about this stuff- the admin has no reason to be.

You want internships- You organise your ICC to be more productive- if you dont see someone else doing it- stand for elections- get elected and do the work. this is not some mystery.

Why just moots? organise everything film festivals, conferences, talks, lectures, whatever! and participate in everything! Win moots, win debates, win quizzes. Dont be satisfied with a participation medal. The folks who are winning have all the same problems you do- they just persevere and you excuse yourself and try and find workarounds.

Food is horrible? Stand in the mess and watch as they cook, vote for mess representatives who will do that at least.

This learned helplessness where you constantly expect other people to fix stuff for you is exhausting. Just get off the internet and do some actual work.

sure. go to a courtroom without knowing the law at all. lets see how well you do. Court craft is undoubtedly important. As is knowing which judge to bribe. But if you think thats all law practice is about? yall are crazy. every great lawyer of our time, and most good judges- were excellent students and scholars.

You can put the furniture wherever you want with your court craft stuff. But if the building is made on faulty foundation- itll all come down.

Usually these situations are no win. Only misogynists would drop such hints. You don't have to throw a tantrum or do anything that involves wasting your time and energy over these douchebags. Just pretend not to understand, gracefully exit and find someone decent who will actually support your career. If flattery will get you the letter and you never have to see them again, then flatter away. You shouldn't have to but men do versions of that too. Just make sure no numbers are exchanged and that once you get the letter, that's the end of it. I can tell you that men like this are a complete waste of your time, so spend as little time and possible on them.

It's great that you enjoy practicing but not all careers in law are about one kind of practice. Your professors are there to teach you to understand the spectrum of the law, how to learn it on your own and from other people and if you have the aptitude, how to move through it in an analytical self-aware way. It's really cute that so many lawyers thinks they can teach. And then they throw a fit when they find that a class of students is very different from the people they pay to tell them they are great. It's wonderful that you value what you do. When you grow up, you'll value what others do also. You spent a certain number of years learning to get what your clients need. Professors spent that time understanding and teaching the law and new ways of thinking about it.

Hi, I chose to do law because I was interested and I observed that law firms were very lucrative in terms of money. As someone who comes from a family income of 60lpa post tax (parents in early 50s), the stories of people making 1 cr in law firms at 10 pqe at the age of 33-35 were exciting. But now I feel quite demotivated reading on how they're actually that bad. I'm having a mid life crisis that I should have pursued mba or went abroad instead. Can someone very honestly clarify what is the real state? Should I go out after completing law from Jindal?

It's just not SAMVAD, AZB recently promoted 7 lawyers to Partnership, out of which 6 are women. 85% of this year's partner hires are women.

This shows,

Women can have it all - Personally and professionally women can have it all. Earlier only men (mostly) used to make partners at big law firms, career ambitious women were punished by the society. Earlier only men were able to "have it all" women had to choose between either personal life or partnership.

The glass ceiling is shattering - law firm partnership is no longer a boys club.

Have you heard the narcissists prayer ?

“That didn’t happen, if it did - it wasn’t that bad, if it was bad - it’s not a big deal, if it’s a big deal- it’s not my fault, if it is my fault- I didn’t mean it , if I did mean it - you deserved it”.

It’s shocking how many people justify physical abuse and running a professor out of town and bullying him years later online because they cannot own up to their own flaws.

That's definitely crossing a line. And it is cowardly. The same people are dying to go to colleges where white professors will look down on them. So you don't like how a professor talks to you. The civilised way is to tell them politely, tell the Vice Chancellor and so on. Not hooliganism. It is bad enough that someone did it, but appalling that so many people are here justifying it. Is this what you people do to the rude partners you work for?

You don’t need to be a woman to prostitute yourself. Go for it man. Offer your boss your body.

You didn’t think of it ? Is that because this kind of thing is imposed on and expected off women and not men ?

Is it because you want to be able to consent to sexual activity instead of having to sleep with someone to advance in a career in law ?

There’s no validation or pleasure in sex work for exploited women. Whoever told you otherwise was either trying to change your moral compass or was trying to justify their own behaviour.

Any leads for someone joining there? What’s the concept of trainee associate and paralegal ?

I’ve seen people working for almost years a paralegals in the Pune office.

Is the pay at par with Mumbai office? What is the hiring criteria for the Corporate team?

How are the transactions? Worth joining?

Started my first internship few days back with a boutique firm. The associates asked me to do some research on a topic. I asked what exactly they want and where to refer, they said Google it. Now I gathered all the information and organized now they saying you did copy paste. What else was I expected to do ? Please help

I know you are a great soul working tirelessly to the infinite bounds of our world’s vast ocean to moderate our comments. I am really not trolling here. But maybe start hiring two or three more moderators? It won’t hurt much to see our comments getting moderated in 4-5 hours instead of waiting a whole long day. I hope you are open to genuine criticism and not mark this trollish as you are doing in majority of threads nowadays.

some partners are very good at Tier 1, and nurture and polish the talent of a hardworking associate (despite of rank)- majority of partners are toxic and lose the diamond - and are busy to shine the gold of arrogance.

tier 2 and 3 are great place to learn and get exposure/ my 5 years of stint at a Delhi based dispute chamber has

You know, I'm a little surprised by how much importance people on LI attach to the quality of teachers. Unlike other professions/disciplines, there is a vast (and imo unsurmountable) gap between the practice of law and the teaching of law. The reality is that most teachers (no matter their pedigree or the length of their CV) have very little practical experience of the law. A successful advocate at even the district court level will have much more practical knowledge that even the best teachers. And at the end of the day, unless you're going into academia, practical knowledge trumps theoretical knowledge every day of the week. In fact, if you go into litigation, you basically have to unlearn what you learnt in law school and learn the real law all over again. This is partly the reason why most entry level jobs in law have experience requirements in contrast to most other professions. If you want your law school education to actually benefit you, you should be pushing for increased seminar/clinical courses taught by actual practitioners and not academics with fancy CVs.

I've mostly done company and chamber internships in 1 City cause I've always lacked the money to go out and intern in another city, but I'm in my last year now and have saved enough money to apply for internships in other cities.

I don't have much experience, what law firms (gen corp) can i apply to to get some exp on my cv?

Help a poor first gen out 🥹🙏

Funds practice primarily deals with fund formation (negotiating key commercial terms and documentation). Documentation would include prepration of Trust deed, private placement memorandum, contribution agreement, investment management agreement. Funds practice also includes LP-GP negotiations on side letter arrangements.

To answer your next question, funds practice is very different from PE/VC. PE / VC practice deals with transaction when a fund enters (or exits) into an investment in an investee company whereas the funds team deal with formation of PE/VC funds.

Good firms that have Funds practice:

KCO (Siddharth Shah), Trilegal (Ganesh Rao), ICUL (Tejesh), CAM, SAM, NDA, Resolut.

Partner here. Not sure about normal but I do get extremely anxious many times, though not a full blown panic attack. I have not been for therapy. I do low key wonder if I need to move on but I keep telling myself let's just see for one more year.

Did you know Messi would throw up on the pitch? This is a good article about how he coped https://ideas.ted.com/how-to-handle-anxiety-lionel-messi/

Our profession tends to be full of pressure and at partner level it is really difficult to switch off completely even for a couple of days but you definitely need to prioritize self care and work out ways in which you can manage to clam yourself down. A good therapist would be a step towards that goal. I hope you find more helpful advice here. Good luck.

Long story short, was allotted NUJS after CLAT 2023, not very keen on taking it because I really wanted to get into NALSAR all throughout my clat prep and missed out by a few marks and am still beating myself up over it. I applied to GNLU in vacancies and got in, should I take it? I’ve read terrible things about NUJS campus and that the institution itself has been declining (?) and am not sure if I’ll enjoy my time there but on the other hand I’ve heard people say that the NUJS tag does carry some weight. GNLU seems to have a much better campus and decent placements. Will I be downgrading if I pick GNLU over NUJS? Another option I have is to pick either one of these and then write CLAT again this December to get into NALSAR because I feel like if I don’t I will always regret it. Would I be wasting a year if I do this? Is it even worth it? I’m just very very confused and would appreciate any genuine advice, thank you.

I dont think he made her do that, it's disgusting that she did that to him, underperforming resource-traded sexual relations in lieu of undue favors.

i don't believe the random anonymous throwing accusation that she had to sleep for something. that's the most hot and favorite story/rumor or gossip at every office.

We droppers care more about prestige than money. Everyone gets Jindal but not everyone gets top 3 even after slogging years. This difference may tell you something. Also I also got 99 percentile in lsat. They barely managed to handout 50 percent….smhhh , not worth it. Thank god I retook clat

Because clat is an exam that involves hardwork prestige and luck. That’s why droppers naturally are inclined towards it more. No offence but lsat is a joke of an exam. Doesn’t require much IQ or luck. And literally some people even cheat through google lens to crack this simple exam - I can’t explain how disappointing it is 😭. But anyway as you mentioned money floats money funda

I absolutely agree with this. Infact you will see very few droppers - why is that? Because Jindal accepts people till 60 percentile or even below. There are droppers. However , the only droppers I found are genuinely interested in the scholarships JGLS offers cause well that’s the reason a lot of people even write lsat. But that is a farce as well. The scholarship committee is very arbitrary. So yeah JGLS has been exposed for long now. Someone telling you otherwise has no proof whatsoever to showcase for that.

The politically correct woke term is "self partnered woman". Emma Watson uses this term for herself. Spinster, old maid thornback are considered politically incorrect and non-woke, as they are considered ageist (thornback literally means skin like thorns).

https://theconversation.com/spinster-old-maid-or-self-partnered-why-words-for-single-women-have-changed-through-time-126716

Yh but why waste a year when u can perform well at sls and get the same job?

Anyway faculty and facility wise sls is prolly better than most nlus except nls.

5 yrs itself feels a lot for law, 6 yrs now way!

Also ppl have no idea how difficult slat was this year. Many of those within air 500 in clat didnt get sls pune so yh its damn good if u did actually get sls

The first point is enough to remove reservation but no govt will do it cuz they will lose the majority obc/sc/st votes.

General category are a minority and they dont have political power. Majority of the leading politicians including modi and many state cms are themselves from obc community so they wont want to remove the reservation.

Very simple. If you have the money, it's better any day to send your child abroad. Even if you look at IIT, IIT Bombay is ranked just 150 in QS. Much better to go to Manchester or Glasgow or Edinburgh of Warwick or Birmingham or Liverpool than IITB. We are it awe of IITB because of the quality of alumni, but these colleges have even better alumni (Nobel laureates, heads of state etc ). And the infrastructure and faculty is much better. In fact, like NLU alumni, IIT alumni prefer to do a PhD abroad and teach abroad. Also, the IITB alumni who became CEOs of global companies did so because they have degrees from foreign universities.

Don't follow "Sharmaji ka beta". Follow "Bill Gates ji ka beta"!

Check out the Master’ Union’s PGP Tech and Business Management (which is basically like MBA). I’m really interested in tech too so I found the programme amazing, they take non-engineers as well and teach you all the core skills such as Python, data science, working on SaaS etc. I wanna join straight after my graduation next year, the only roadblock is a good CAT percentile, and the fact that < 10% of their batch consists of freshers as they prefer workex.

Ditch law and start preparing for CAT already brother, MBA opens many more doors for you and is way better than being stuck in a law firm with ungodly work hours, however while you are at law school do consider interning at smaller firms to gain exposure. Keep writing to all these firms and someone will surely get you in. All the best and work hard

After its record-breaking 2023 wherein 76 job offers were given on placement day, in addition to the 38 PPOs, what is the likely scenario this time for GNLU? For context, we have got 22 PPOs till now. Only credible sources reply, trolls/disruptors please maintain decorum atleast for this thread.

Can someone provide insight into the data analytics courses that are worth doing if a law graduate want to enter the field of legal policy. I am deeply interested in this field and want to start my career. However, many organisations which work in this domain are also focussing upon the skills related to data analysis, apart from demonstrable knowledge in a particular sector for a candidate. I currently do not have adequate skills and is willing to start as long-term intern. And side by side thinking of doing data analytics or related certificate course.

Please provide any suggestions to this approach. Also, suggest a good course on data analytics.

Let's not pretend as if we are shocked. It is routine for associates and even partners to seek sexual favours from interns. We all know about a horrific case where an intern committed suicide while working in Bangalore, after she rebuffed advances and complained to the cops, only to face mental harassment in return.

I still remember that, after the Justice Ganguly incident, I met three very eminent lawyers who were blaming the STUDENT and badmouthing NUJS. That's the reality.

On an average day you work from 9 to 9, then fall asleep for 30 mins. Then you get whipped and woken up by the slavemaster, who makes you work for 2 hours more. Then you faint. Then you are revived with ORS and allowed to go home. Then you get deep sleep for 6 hours at home and then wake up the next day, refreshed.

Thus, in 24 hours you can budget for 14 hours work + 6 hours of deep sleep + 30 mins of light sleep in between + 1 hour two-way commute time + 30 mins for bathing, bathroom, shaving + 2 hours free time (read newspapers, watch a bit of YouTube etc, speak to parents etc).

Thus, a pretty good life in relation to other firms. At CAM and SAM you get only 3 hours deep sleep and the slavemaster doesn't revive you with ORS (only tap water).

Once your financial debt or obligation gets over, please do leave the Tier1.Nothing is worth losing your sleep,peace or hair at such a young age .To answer OP, yes there are so many countless cases where Associates were and are are walking out of Tier 1 (many even in insecure Covid time)without any opportunity at all .When they join aTier 2 that even agree to a pay cut,but they don't go back to a Tier 1.Thats how horrible Tier 1 law firms can be.