Hats off to nalsar for standing up.

But also one thing , their way of approach could’ve been different. Isha foundation chose all the best colleges in india and that included iim Ahmedabad , IIT and nalsar. So it’s pretty easy to figure out as to why nalsar is a premium institution.

In an arbitration, Respondents filed the documents as additional documents. However, the tribunal rejected the documents because they had to be filed along with written statement or counter claim as laid down under Order 8 CPC and Order 11 Commercial Courts Act. Further, no reasonable cause was given for the delay. Later, they also tried to bring the documents again through cross examination during which new documents can be produced. However, the said move was rejected. Till this time, the claimants always objected to the Respondent's move to produce additional documents because of unreasonable delay.

However, later the claimants themselves relied upon the said documents of the Respondent during a cross examination. Can it be said that now those documents have been admitted by the claimants against themselves.

Kindly let me know if there is any authority on this.

Thanks

Hello Everyone,

I am from a Tier-3 NLU and am applying for BCL at Oxford this year. My cumulative GPA lands me around 72-73%. However, I have a batch rank of 1.

Now, the problem is that BCL requires a first-class hons degree in UG which would translate to 75% for other universities and 65% for "prestigious universities".

Could you please help me by elaborating on whether my Batch Rank 1 would help me get over this requirement and whether a 3rd Tier NLU would be considered as a 'prestigious university'?

Any help would be appreciated!

Bruh… we are slaving away at law firms while kids make cringe reaction videos, unboxing videos etc and become crorepatis???!! Maybe we are in the wrong profession??

Also interested to know how these people earn cash income. Do companies whose products they endorse pay them in cash?

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/income-tax-raid-at-uttar-pradesh-youtubers-house-rs-24-lakh-cash-found-4214236/amp/1

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/kochi/i-t-dept-raids-houses-offices-of-vloggers/amp_articleshow/101204804.cms

Put your head down and work.

If you see politics or toxicity - ignore it till it’s not directed at you and keep on reading the various KM notes that have practical jurisprudence imbibed in them.

No firm will give you anything - the least you owe yourself is extracting every bit of knowledge that will make you a better lawyer.

Hopefully the world doesn’t stop needing good lawyers.

You say that a masters will help you immensely in your career. Then you go on to say that "there are no guarantee of placement after llm and I am on my own to get a job thereafter, so it's completely baseless to burden anyone with a loan".

So why do a stupid degree like LLM if there's no guarantee of employement? You are making 2 contradictory statements and both of them cannot be true at the same time. ▮▮▮

Although it has been established Nirf doesn't matter, long back. NLU D trolls need to understand that even as per Nirf they just got 0.15 points more than Nalsar and that too after fudging the most importantly metrics for any student, i.e. salary. They posted a median salary of 18lakhs per annum which is simply bullshit. People have already questioned how they arrived at this "median". Even NLS doesn't submit fake numbers here. Just imagine the point difference if NLS and NALSAR had submitted 18 lakhs or why stop there fake it to 19 lakhs.

Again, I thought you just said you are only butting in where NLU D is concerned. Just read this comment, you are clearly concerned about NLS and Nalsar debate also. Somehow it seems you are annoyed how come op is choosing Nalsar over NLS. Solely because it defeats your entire propaganda of NLU D being better than everyone else. Go home boy.

I am a recent Nalsar grad. We had close to 6 or 7 foreign law firm offers. OP don't go by NLU D trolls. Who have gone way beyond their manadate in a debate which is over NLS v Nalsar. Like even at places where we are talking about Nalsar specifically (without any mention of NLU D, they are coming to troll). So if foreign law firms and domestic placements are your concerns no better law school in India than Nalsar.

And UPSC is as irrelevant to judge a law school as it is to rank AIIMS basis its upsc performance. UPSC is just a last resort of indian middle class aspirations owing to an unchanged feudal mindset which has been shamelessly allowed to grow even after independence that " sarkari babus" are My Lords. Its a great traversity that white sahab was replaced by brown sahab..when in fact the whole civil services should have been dismantled and everything made ground level up. Like you do not become SP directly. Everyone starts as SI. In US you can start with Patrol duty and become chief of Police. Even in Army you start with lieutenant and basis your ability you can become a General. All VIP culture related to civil service should have been obliterated completely.

What better facts then Perception and Placement. Perception is as vague as NIRF ranking in totality. Still almost all rankings include perception as a metric. Industry perception would go one step closer as it talks about outlook in the legal fraternity. As far as legal fraternity is concerned, you can see just by browsing through legally india that no one cares about NIRF and everyone (except NLU D trolls like yourself) consider NLS and NALSAR at par (but in that order) and then others follow. NIIT Bombay has a better perception. So every year people fill it out in preference to IIT Madras. Even though IIT Madras is better ranked (for the last three years). Also since you want to argue on facts then just one is enough, "Placements".

Prof. Poddar is an authority in the field of Agriculture law, water law, environment law. Last year his elective on Agriculture law got cancelled as he marked previous semester students on merit and based on quality of answers. NUJS students take revenge on diligent professors

Cause nalsar students did it badly. The fact that they didn’t do their homework. Came to it looking as if they were superior, and then failed to counter the seriously inaccurate problematic stuff he was saying. The students clearly failed in representing themselves well.

A lot of that is understandable - students are lazy and superior and arrogant and all that. And that’s fine when you’re just being a regular student. But it’s a different thing when you want to do real political stuff - you can’t bring those flaws with you. You gotta be more circumspect.

I’m on their side- I don’t think they should’ve been bullied the way they were. But it’s clear they were not equipped to deal with that conman.

So are you literally counting holidays under the garb of defeating the whole logic of trimester? Kinda sus bro. Let’s admit they have it better. And also how you know the exact amount of internships a person is getting at two colleges. I have seen a nls grad getting a Uk law firm PPO(not magic circle) in early 4th year and he easily went there because the grades froze already and he just needed to pass in the 4th/5th year. The same applies for foreign moots. Not a good logic. You brought more illogical attention now

Have heard from some of you close friends in ▮▮▮ that recently ▮▮▮ has given out ▮▮▮ PPOs from their college to students, who basically got internships through contacts and they were almost certainly likely not to bag a job from any of the firms (not even one) coming for Day Zero. Their percentages were so low that getting shortlisted would also have been close to impossible. So, I wanted to know is this trend present in other '▮▮▮ batches as well, like ▮▮▮ who has been smart in giving PPOs not longer being able to properly identify talents?

P.S. This is just a rumour, the mods can mark it as contested but please allow it to get publish. I want to know the real story.

I know a married couple where one is NUJS and the other is NALSAR. They met at a law firm. But this is an old Gen Y couple that predates NIRF rankings. I don't think present-day NALSAR people will date NUJS people now. The parents may even carry out an honour killing if they get to know about it.

#parody

This is not destroying logically , but instead making more invalid points. The semester count doesn’t matter anymore because nls has trimester anyway. And those are basic credit courses yo be passed. You will almost be a graduate after 3 years. This is not the logic I expected from nalsarites

Practical advise, stick around for at least a year in your chamber. Firms, especially are always looking to hire at around 1-2 PQE, because its around that phase that a lot of campus hires decide that the law firm life is not what they are looking for, and teams have spaces to fill.

Menaka Guruswamy was the last one to get it, after being named in the TIME 100. Who could be next? Will political connections and family background matter?

https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/supreme-court-new-guidelines-designation-senior-advocates

You are falling into the trap of lifestyle creep. Be careful.

Going to a fancy restaurant doesn't make you classy.

Focus on self improvement. Work on improving your grooming, come to work with well tailored and clean clothes. Be well read and talk in a pleasing manner. There are some things which you need to do to project confidence and charm.

Just spending money at a restaurant doesn't make you classy. These are one shot expenditures. Go there if you are interested in having an interesting culinary experience. But don't go there just to impress other people.

At the end of the day, people are impressed by people who project confidence.

Think about what your real goals are, and don't lose your way by trying to just impress randos at work.

With your researching skills, you shouldn't be even eligible to practice at Tis Hazari, but unfortunately you are.

https://www.uscourts.gov/careers/search-judiciary-jobs/citizenship-requirements-employment-judiciary

Real talk - Nagraj was a decent teacher.

In my experience he used to evaluate papers fairly. If you inserted what he talked about in his classes, you would get a decent grade.

You would have to have really pissed him off to get on his bad books, but my experience with him was quite positive.

There is no harm in applying.

Oxbridge usually takes the toppers.

But the others should be depending on the quality of your applications.

If you got the money and the means go for it. You will definitely benefit from the experience.

You won't be the first one to apply without work experience. Just do it.

As someone from Mumbai, I'm trying to identify chambers in Delhi that are doing a fair amount of work on the commercial side (at the Delhi HC, SC, NCLAT) - commercial suits, arbitration, IP, competition, securities (Delhi lawyers who appear before SAT) - could someone suggest names please? They could be designated seniors or not, but looking for people ideally on the same seniority level as a Rohaan Cama/Vishal Kanade/Karl Tamboly in Mumbai.

Palkhivala on Indra Sawhney, in his book We The People:

“the basic feature of the constitution envisages a cohesive, unified, casteless society. By breathing new life into casteism the judgment fractures the nation and disregards the basic features of the constitution. The decision would revitalize casteism, cleave the nation into forward and backward and make backwardness a vested interest. It will undo whatever has been achieved since independence towards a unified and integrated nation the majority judgments will revive casteism which the constitution emphatically intended to end; and the pre – independence tragedy would be re-enacted the erstwhile under privileged would now become the privileged”.

He then quotes Nehru:

“The only real way to help the backward group is to give opportunities for a good education.... But if we go in for reservations on communal and caste basis, we swamp the bright and the able people and remain second rate or third- rate.. it has amazed me to learn that even promotions are based sometimes on communal or caste considerations. This way lies not only folly, but disaster. Let us help the backward groups by all means, but never at the cost of efficiency”.

It's also worth remembering that Indra Sawhney was not a unanimous decision. The dissenting view was that class does not equate to caste.

30 years have passed since the judgement. The condition of SC/ST/OBC people are a lot better now. They have occupied high posts in government and politics. The country has not had an upper-caste person as PM since 2004, when Vajpayee's tenure ended. Globalisation and tech have also created many opportunities for SC/SC/OBC people. We have also been the US Supreme Court strike down race-based affirmative action.

So why not end caste-based reservation now? At most, have a 20% EWS quota for all, irrespective of caste?

Okay so let’s get this comparison done

NLUj:- after a bad couple of years at domestic placements they are seeing an improvement - why? Well it’s because their international PPO culture from foreign law firms has been consistent and domestic firms are gaining a trust all over again. This year will be a major comeback for the Columbia of the Indian Law School

GNLU :- they have been doing well for a while now. But the batch of 23 followed by the batch of 24 is proving problematic for the legacy to be maintained. Aayega Sab aayega. Lekin iss bar utna Accha nehi hoga ppo ke mamle mein. The Brown of Indian Law School will have to take the bullet.

NLIU - with a bit more funds coming in , the college is trying to build new infra but PPO culture remains mediocre. It has slided a lot and it will more if Bhopal doesn’t churn out correct data.

This is a highly misleading post

First, corporate law jobs depend on institutional tag and relative class rank it does not depend on the pass course subjects, so it does not matter whether you study sociology or ballistics, law firm work will deal with corp law, DD, PE etc.

Second, the main law subjects will be taught by the same faculty members, so unlike in Jindal where you have different grades of teachers teaching different grades of students, at NUJS all LLB students will be treated equally

Finally, NUJS has the first mover advantage in the NLU space on offering an innovative pass course which deals with forensic in great depth, while it will be of little use in corp jobs (except tangentially for some of the document verification modules) so is history, political science etc in the context of corp jobs.

It seems that the post is by a disgruntled NLUD student who wants to troll NUJS. The entire batch will be brought into the main campus in two years and there will a state of the art lab (costing 10+ crore), it is being constructed in the main campus. A new hostel block is also on the anvil, however, due to land acquisition issues it is facing a longer delay. Overall, the forensic BSc LLB Hons at NUJS is an excellent course and will have a cut off of <400 in CLAT gen by next year, this year it went only upto low 600.

From a moral perspective, MBA is a good way out unless you get into management consulting. Companies like McKinsey are infamous for putting profits over people (read about how McKinsey played a huge role in fueling the opioid crises in the US and made millions addicted just to make sure that their clients get “repeat purchases”).

That protest was internally generated by vested interests. In fact, these vested interests did not want anyone to join there as Vice Chancellor; otherwise there were two other names also in the panel of candidates and anyone of them could be appointed as Vice Chancellor.

Now, things have changed.

The research centres are functioning fine. The students who whine here are the ones who are not good enough to participate in the projects. Instead they would like to chill, not attend classes, not learn anything, and then ask for remedial classes before day zero and think that they are entitled to a job. NUJS would be well rid of such people, so that only hardworking ones are left.

The course is the same as BA LLB, only in place of social science subjects you get forensic subjects. Recruitment opportunities will depend on the students, just like it does for the BA LLB course. All the facilities offered to the latter will be given to the former too, the law faculty are also the same. The students will take some time to acclimatise, seeing how they will live and study in a different campus nearby for the first two years, but it will happen soon enough.

Mod, this is nothing but an attempt to discredit the course during the admission process so that lower ranked people can get in. I urge you to mark this contested and trollish. Some BA LLB students have been doing this in frustration and from insecurity. To point out some of the lies here, the only forensic science courses that will be taught in the programme will be those in place of the social science papers like Sociology, Political Science, Economics etc. The law papers are going to remain the same. As for campus, the classrooms for this course are actually much better and newer in quality compared to the main campus, since they have been designed and built in the last two months. I have seen those. Same goes for the hostel, which is actually more spacious than the current hostels. Sure the buildings belong to BSNL, but so what? NUJS first batch studied for three years in the state forest department building, didn't harm them any. Plus this batch is going to have access to main campus and its resources, including library and databases, in addition to a mess of their own, hostel buildings of their own. Further, the classes will be shifted to the main campus after two years once the vertical extension of the main academic building is finished.

If the student are unable to look past the obvious demerits of this bsc llb course, they deserve what's coming for them in the next five years.

The gall to assume that this new course will be treated at the same level as the ba LLB course is hilarious if anything.

This is a doomed course right from its inception.

If your scores are above 65% overall and if you are within top 10% of the batch then you can get into LSE, to get into oxbridge you have to be within top 5% and have excellent reco. If you have more than 60% you will get and top 30% of batch you will get into any of the Russell group unis

Scholarship is different ball game, you will need to focus on your sop more and show why the uni should give you £20k.

Also, have a clear gameplan for what you want to do after your LLM

Have a chat with seniors from your uni who had done LLM straight after LLB

How is he berating those from Bangalore, bandra and Delhi ncr! That's generalized insult! You may insult an individual but insulting entire cities and locations is horrible! So is Malabar Hill, colaba, cuffe parade below bandra? Are other cities below Bangalore/ Delhi (ncr)? Other cities below bandra? What's gotten into him?

Kco has been firing associates regularly and have very less work. It's in public domain on hoe they fired and forced out associates. Don't run after money. Take what is stable and survive. Luthra has recently recruited well and don't have a history or firing which kco has been in the last year. Job security is always more important than immediate cash in these times. Kco has been going down. Pick any other option than doing their work and getting fired when they have less work. They also fire those who have recently joined as opposed to those ones confirmed. It's easier for them. If you do agree to join, read your contract carefully and negotiate for 2-3 months salary if fired.

One of our faculty members made these videos for us during the pandemic. These are reasonably good resources for you to get started. You should also get hold of Bryan Garner's book on 'Legal Writing in Plain English'. It has many practice exercises to improve comprehension skills and to effectively summarise cases.

Introduction to Academic Legal Writing

Session 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIUmcAGc72s

Session 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0gOdWNdyMQ

Session 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpLOkcIACA

Introduction to Reasoning and Argumentation

Session 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgb8zeWdEGk

Session 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88-QFJSxg9E

Session 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5FFLfQbEXk

Session 4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u11UsCrvz1k

In most cases, the second term had been given to Vice Chancellor of NLU in violation of the Act and Statutes. After the completion of the first tenure, the post should have been advertised and search committee should have been formed to recommend a panel of 3 or 4 names. But, if a Chancellor gives second term in his discretion, no one would dare to go to High Court to get a relief.