Should I join a tier 2 law firm or move in house. Please Enlighten me with the PROS & CONS of the respective moves. I want to continue as a lawyer and not switch to alternate career so please don’t dole out MBA advices. Also If an In-house move then what is the growth potential and expected Pay at these corp houses & which industry tends to have the better pay/scope of growth. Thanks in advance

Guys, please take the red pill instead of the deep state, mainstream media-driven blue pill. You will see that India is in a state of stagflation, unemployment and recession. The best option is to expand your skills. If you are not smart enough to do an MBA, consider hotel/tourism management and settle abroad.

RPNLU is Yogi’s baby and RMLNLU is Mulayam’s baby, so will Yogi pour money into RPNLU and divert RMLNLU funds here? In fact, the name Ram Manohar Lohia is itself anathema to the right wing, because of Lohia‘s Mandal-based reservation politics. What does this mean for the future of RMLNLU? Will students and alumni push for NLU Nationalisation? As the BJP is in power in UP and the centre, perhaps Yogi will be open to it?

I'm in my 5th year and had a bad breakup recently. I have lost all career motivation and I'm finding it difficult to cope up. Most of the time I feel lethargic and suicidal. I don't feel like existing in my college. This year is very crucial for me and I have to get placed. I also don't want my last year to be this gloomy. But I'm unable to get over my mental trauma. I feel so lonely. How to move on? How to focus on my career again, when there is no one to motivate me and my batchmates try to pull me down?

NLIU's alumni base runs deep across circles, and as the University ages, richer its alumni base gets.

You'll find a decent balance between corporate lawyers at T1s, litigators, bureaucrats and judiciary, although links in foreign firms are a bit lacking. They're generally receptive. Good mooting culture within the uni as well, you can find helpful guides from within the base.

I'm an ex-JSA, and leaving JSA has been the best decision of my life. The firm is so arbitrary and no one speaks against it. Folks have been telling that to compete with other T1s, for the very first time they went for campus placements to recruit a handful of kids. What's shocking is that they had a major pay scale difference amongst those they recruited from campus as Associates and those they absorbed through internships as Junior Associates. What an arbitrary and discriminatory decision. Just to put it here they are infact paying these campus recruited kids more than many associates having 2-3 years of experience. Isn't it a joke? Would JSA ever increase its pay band at each level? It just wants to portray a good public image to stand with other T1s. I was so distributed by so many arbitrary decisions at JSA that I actually had to leave without taking my bonus which the firm takes an eternity to give.

@Legally India Mods - Why dont we put in internal rules on the website for moderation so most of the comments get automatically moderated rather than waiting to be approved (which is taking a lot of time now days honestly). Reddit has worked it out nicely. We could do so too, on a much smaller scale of course!

Hey! Since you are a little far off from the actual date of the exam, you would really benefit from working on things that you can't develop/prepare just a few months before the exam (as another comment here has noted). This would primarily include comprehension and text-based reasoning. All of it boils down to really understanding written text. So towards that, you should begin reading newspapers, preferably good quality newspapers, like Hindu (please avoid Times of India as it is overly simplistic). Focus especially on the editorials. These would help your GK and English preparation too. And because you are in 11th grade, I assume you could let our at least an hour daily for newspaper reading, along with others things you might be working on. These newer CLATs focus on comprehension rather your static or factual logic. This should set you up to a good path. Continue experimenting for what helps, what does not. Good luck!

Is this take home or inclusive of bonus ? If these numbers include the bonus / variable pay, then what's the typical split between fixed and the variable ? I hear unless one is a super performer, the bonus payout is between 30% - 50% (on an avg) of the variable amount. Is this understanding correct ? Please guide.

We are in a de facto recession. The backup option is to prepare for government jobs, but there is 50% caste-based reservation there, plus domicile requirements in some cases. At least there can be a two-year freeze on caste and domicile quotas until the economic situation improves. Otherwise thousands of bright graduates will be left without jobs merely by accident of birth: being born in the wrong state or because of birth in a community whose ancestors may have violated human rights 1000 years ago.

Also, the advice to do an MBA is well taken, but there too jobs are limited.

Not at all, it was a planned suicide. Would have placed 20% more people had our RICC had a bit of brains to wait.

Also Business is about to pick up nicely only these law firms struggling with over hiring are presenting a glooming picture. Just ride out the wave or maybe ring up some company for a in house gig in the interim.

Dear All,

I have been asked to do a presentation for my Assessment Internship and was wondering if you can help me in deciding a topic for the presentation. Till now I have 3 topics:

1. Open Access

2. AI in Law

3. Related Party Transactions

I feel none of these topics are helpful. If possible can you suggest to me something to make my presenation on? Thanks.

A2 This side. All lawyers’ bands have been revised. The hike for A0s has already been covered in the thread (though I doubt the 3 lakh bonus is guaranteed - it will be prorated for 9 months and in my opinion should also depend on partner rating).

In a novel step, each lawyer has been told in their retainer letter as to how much they stand to make at different performance levels (below expectation (“BE”), meets expectation (“ME”) and exceeds expectation (“EE”)), in addition to the fixed retainer (“FR”). I am mentioning numbers for A1, A2, and A3 levels below but please note that these numbers are lawyer specific and depend on their previous year’s rating as well. All figures in lakhs and pre-TDS.

A1 - 18 FR + [2.85 (BE) / 3.35 (ME) / 4 (EE)].

A2 - 21 FR + [3.57 (BE) / 4.2 (ME) / 5 (EE)].

A3 - 25.5 FR + [4.97 (BE) / 5.85 (ME) / 7 (EE)].

These increased bands are applicable with retrospective effect from 1 April 2023 so everyone who received arrears yesterday got a nice surprise.

PS - I am not aware of SA level pay and not in a position to source these either.

Literally no one would agree to that. Speak for yourself instead of writing “we students”. Also, I could easily tell from the language used that you’re the certain person who has already received a PPO and is friends with the RAC convenor. Please refrain from pushing such biased and one-sided narratives.

What?Magistrate is not an employer,yes a judicial officer .Ministry can issue a letter of termination to Magistrate only after its allowed by High Courtesy.Termination of magistrate means misconduct,so then if letter of termination issues then Magistrate can't be passing judgements So then what is this judgement after termination?Not possible

Situation is difficult,but don't get bogged down.Trilegal has reduced its hiring by 50-60% but how much so they hire -its not big numbers.Don't bother about Trilegal.There's some major issues at Khautan and CAM internally (CAM is rumoyred to retract PPo as well as cancellung from Day Z) its not something you can do about and its better that a fresher not land up at a troubled places ( it dies not seem kije that when your job hunting, but thats a better situation than jumping into drowning waters).You got JSA,SAM,AZB, TTA,L&L,Saraf,Anagram, ELP, Spiceroute,Bharucha etc.These are firms with decent pay and experience.No point getting all gloomy,just keep preparing.

Sorry, youre saying that the way most indian women dress- saree, mangalsutra and bindi- is regressive and patriarchal? That theyre making the choice to be regressive? What would be progressive then? Western clothes?

I'm a second wave feminist who wants women to burn bras and destroy gender roles- but this analysis is just so silly and stupid. Western clothes are just as patriarchal and regressive. Look at how women dress in hollywood movies! Its all catering to such male gaze! Dont start with how women actually wear high heels and live in pain for themselves- to feel good about themselves. What makes a person think that high heels would make them happy? If it was not the idea of oneself conforming to a terrible stereotype of woman?

I'll tell you what else- real feminism should go beyond clothes. If this is your activism youre a waste of space and a not really a feminist at all. Nearly all of my teachers through out law school and k-12 dressed in sarees and bindis. Almost all of them were fiercely feminist and taught me how to be my own woman. The point of feminism is that we dont want to be judged on our clothes . Women are not less serious or capable because they wear indian clothes.

Sad state of affairs at NLUO that Student Council Members took this step after being threatened by the Registrar

High time that students should write to the Chancellor on this threatening by the Registrar.

The Registrar's appointment is itself questionable as it doesn't follows UGC Guidelines.

Time for the us to unite and raise our voice.

Trilegal just revised their A0 salary by giving a huge hike. Their starting salary package is now around 19.5L, with about 16.5L fixed (from a previous 14.4+2.2 structure). This probably puts trilegal at the top of the paymasters among tier 1s.

Is there any chance that CAM, SAM, KCO, and the like follow suit? Else it is a huge disappointment for all the A0s that opted for other firms during day 0.

Moderator, please pin this important story. I don't think students have ever gone on a hunger strike in a leading law school in India, barring HNLU some years ago.

The gist is that the Chief Proctor, Prof Sridhar Dabiru Patnaik, has suspended students for distributing a leftist magazine attacking Modi. It's obvious that this de facto ban has been carried out in the context of the 2024 elections. There is talk that elite law schools like NLUs and Jindal may become flashpoints in 2024. The is just a small preview of what's to come.

https://countercurrents.org/2023/07/o-p-jindal-global-university-students-suspended-for-distributing-magazine-in-campus-students-on-hunger-strike/

Smita Prakash the ANI Boss tends to interview people across party lines and I’m confused whether she is Godi media or Lutyens media. Please help - I don’t wanna sound politically incorrect in front of my woke crush. So, help a bro. She did manage to get a Yogi Adityanath interview - Godi? - https://youtu.be/5EDBccO3MPg

The economy, the job market or these law firms do not operate on hope. Having hope is always good. But one must keep their eyes open and prepare for the worst as well when things appear to go downhill. Those who will acknowledge the recession first, will be in a better position to explore other things or navigate their options. All the best everyone.

Congratulations to Jindal for getting such a big donation from Singhvi that allow its students to go to Cambridge. But we must also ask why rich lawyers are not donating similarly to NLUs. Kapil Sibal, Mukul Rohatgi, Harish Salve, Dayan Krishnan etc must be making 4-6 crores a month. Can't they donate?

https://www.asianage.com/india/all-india/050723/jgus-1st-singhvi-trinity-cambridge-scholarship-awarded-to-jai-chander-brunner.html

This is 100% true. Even placing half of the interested candidates will be a tough task. Along with the respective recruitment committees, the 2024 batch students are also to blame who act so entitled that they don't want to settle for anything less than a T-1 firm paying 15 LPA+ especially after seeing the average people from their senior batch get into these jobs.

The situation is very bad and those commenting that so-called tier 1 NLUs are immune are lying. Just look around you: the economy is generating jobless growth. Adani and Ambani are getting rich but not spreading wealth. Modi is getting panicky and worried about his 2024 prospects. The only solution is to create more jobs through reforms: more privatisation, creation of a national judicial service and immediate entry of foreign law firms.

Upon coming across an article a question struck my mind, whether a judgment given by a Magistrate be valid if their letter of termination was dated yesterday and the judgment was pronounced by them today? Do any learned advocates here know of any specific section which covers an issue like this under IPC or CrPc?

any opinion will be of great help to me as a first-year student of law. :)

Can anyone tell me about the Corporate team of Tatva Legal, Hyderabad? I've heard some negative reviews about their litigation team but is their corporate team any better? how's the work culture and the quality of work? Any other firms in Hyderabad that are involved in Corporate work? Any inputs will be genuinely helpful. Thank you!

Can confirm that things have gone from bad to worse for 2024 batch of T-2 NLUs.

Where certain reps of our College RCC based on propped up placement figures of 2023 batch, had gone on to proclaim that at the end of the 2024 recruitment drive, there will be leftover jobs; they have recently released a live G-Spreadsheet Form containing data which shows that apart from a T-2 firm which has already concluded its drive, only 3 more companies may participate in the recruitment drive this semester. Moreover, apart from paltry emails indicating interest in participation in the recruitment drive in the next semester, there are LITERALLY no firms or inhouse participating in the recruitment drive.

However, this may have had little to no impact on the College RCC which continues to operate in denial, high-handedness, shrouded in petty politics and without compunction.

So yeah, gloomy is as gloomy gets.

#TeamNora for me. I have certain things to say about Jacqueline, but not sure if that will pass the LI censors, so I will keep silent and just let the facts speak for themselves.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nora-fatehi-tells-court-called-a-gold-digger-ruined-my-reputation-4255043

It’s honestly straight up swindling what’s happening at a certain firm which turned ▮▮▮ years old this year.

The managing partner seems to stuff his own coffers at the expense of everyone else’s bonuses.

Especially considering the juniors have been promised that their bonuses will be credited into their account for the past 3 months.

Here's the link for context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqZsQRSF8p4

I appreciate Javed Akhtar for being an independent liberal. I am however concerned with the interviewer's inherent bias/ tilt against the present dispensation and faith - which he makes obscenely obvious in the phrasing of his questions to Akhthar. Whatever happened to him (Karan Thapar)? What happened to the man who dared to challenge the interviewee with intelligent questions (instead of calling friendly guests whose sentences he is found completing, like a propagandist)?

Hi! As a person who has been part of the placement drive my two cents are- it is not a college issue but it most definitely is a committee issue. Since the members have not seen a Day-Z before Covid they lacked strategy and management.

It would have been easily anticipated looking at the PPOs the class of 2024 received and should have strategised accordingly. Looking at the hiring freeze and the overall recruitment climate it would have been a prudent move to schedule Day-Z post NLS and should have approached alternate firms.

NLUJ's RICC has been instrumental in getting opportunities of internship to most of the students across the batches. It's because of that committee and it's collaboration with the firms that the students are placed effectively at various firms. Please do not spread false news. We students have witnessed their work and can claim without a shread of doubt that the committee puts in its best effort to get the students placed. Moreover, it's headed by the most diligent students of the college. Please refrain from starting a fight without cause.

Nope. Not letting you dictate your terms and your worldview as how the world actually exists buddy.

Just look at this:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=School+Teacher+India&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjjs6z82riAAxXcdfUHHS8NAoAQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=1280&bih=639&dpr=2

Trilegal has made an announcement to increase its retainer pay and performance based pay in light of the firm’s exceptional performance past year. Although the exact figure has not been disclosed yet but the decision has been taken by the management committee.

Thoughts?