https://www.barandbench.com/news/corporate/this-firm-will-pay-freshers-up-to-195-lakh-retainer-counsel-will-get-1-crore

Isn't this a CTC figure, meaning 7 lakh goes to income tax (and eventually to the pockets of politicians) + 3 lakhs gets cut in various HR jugaadu deductions. So you actually get only 12 lakhs a year? 😢 And if you spend 60K a month on rent, then you have only 5 lakhs or so a year to spend on food + petrol + electricity + dining out + maid's salary + broadband + OTT subscriptions? Won't that leave you with just 2-3 lakhs in savings? 😭 Plus, what if there is peer pressure to buy fancy watches and phones to maintain your status? Won't that mean you save just a lakh a year? 🥺 Finally,

you may have to buy gifts for your girlfriend, which can mean anything from a simple box of chocolates (for Betty-type girls) to a fancy 50K holiday (for Veronica-type girls).

Thoughts?

I am a student who shall join a tier 2 NLU . I appeared for CLAT 2023 , post which we had a gap of 6 months . While I took a few certificate courses offered by GNLU and interned under an NGO , I noticed that people from the Batch of 28’ to have interned under advocates practising in HCs and some even interned with Senior Adv. Pradeep Rai on Linkedin. That makes me a little unsettled and will that effect my chances of securing an internship and placement in a law firm ?

getting admission in sls nioda and mait which one should i choose is it worth taking loan? as i live in coimbatore and will have to take pg/hostel and both approx sum came down to 35-40 lakhs for sls and 30 for mait for 5 years! which one would be better? which is more reputed among law firms sls degree or ggispu degree? just so confused..

dont have any law background to back me up ! will have to do everything on my own! just need a recommendation, hope i am not bothering to much

I'm from a tier 1 NLU although I'm not participating in Day Z. In this Day Z season I've seen that many of the smaller firms also have only shortlisted a few people, all from top 10/15 of batch rank holders.

When an offer is made, these top rankholders will have multiple offers, and they'll undoubtedly go for a T1 firm, and these offers would be wasted. I can't decide if it is by design or sheer lack of perspective?

As a T2/T3 firm, of you intend to hire from a T1 NLU, at least try to go beyond the top rank holders and analyse the CV of others who might be equally deserving and more likely to accept instead of wasting offers. Or is it deliberate, where you actually have close to no vacancies and you're well aware that these will be rejected but you do this just to perhaps save face?

This firm will pay freshers up to ₹19.5 lakh as retainer, Counsel will get ₹1 crore. Time has come to come out from the mentality of accumulating money from themselves in the name of family firms without caring for the large numbers of highly talented and hard working new generation of lawyers ,who are on the way of making of their presence felt. In fact in looks too ugly to keep large share of money for themselves when it has no real value in increasing your happiness and compassion but only a mechanical habit ascends from the geedy people on this earth . Trilegal succeeded just because of their foundation. Salute to them . This is what actually called a trend setters and truly a market leaders

I love how people always deflect criticism on the ground of "they colluded and gave FAKE reviews!!". Be it politicians, failing restaurants, or incompetent teachers. You got a feedback. Work on it. Don't be cry babys.

(inb4 ad hominem, I'm not a student and haven't been for several years)

When I applied for internships - a good decade-and-a-half ago - a rule that I followed was to apply at least 6 months in advance. One of the firms I worked with subsequently usually had their internship slots booked around 3/4 months in advance. So, you should have already applied for internships in December by now.

I had a terrible CGPA, no mooting record, nor any published papers. I was from a good university though, which I suppose led the firms to open and scroll thorugh my resume.

By following my rule, I managed at least 6 to 7 internships on my own, including in top firms, and I think I got 2 internships from college. I managed to get a call back from the internships that I got from college.

In the hindsight, I should have worked on making my resume look a little more professional (just fancy-fying it), I think that would have helped me a little more.

While I graduated with terrible grades and nothing else to justify my time in college, but I managed to secure a job in a decent law firm by just sending 30/40 emails in one vacation to secure an intership for the next vacation. Remember: internships beget internships.

Critically, when you are interning, be super enthu and be open to learning. But also have fun - you can never have too much fun in your youth.

I am fairly neutral about both honestly. I would prefer more intellectual stimulation ( which i think disputes might offer) but I have heard transactions have a higher pay. I am super confused because I don't know which one to go for. ( I have options for both) in T1-T2 firms.

I honestly would want to work outside the country as well later in life so that is also something.

Gnlu, nluj have one offer each that I know of and mnlu-m has two offers. The interview totally depends on the partners. Generally it's a mixed bag of both technical and hr but you should focus on your worksheet because the partners usually want to know about the work you did during your internship. Once you ve covered your worksheet you can prep basics of laws of your subject area and your cv.

The work environment at Burgeon is frankly amazing. It's a young firm, but Ruma runs her team really well, and I feel like this sentiment was reflected across all associates I engaged with. The pay is not comparable to a Tier 1, but pretty good nonetheless, and more than adequate for someone already residing in Delhi.

Congratulations to all the new Partners! I thought it would be interesting to find a breakdown of the law schools where these Partners come from. As SAM is the leading law firm in the country, their trends should give us a rough idea about the law firm representation of various colleges.

NUJS- 2

GLC- 2

HNLU- 2

GNLU -2

NLSIU- 1

IIT Kharagpur- 2

NLIU- 1
Mumbai University- 1

UPES- 1

NALSAR- 1

Amity- 1

SLSP- 1

Note- I couldn't find the alma mater of Dnyanraj Desai - Projects & Project Finance (Mumbai)

Inferences-

1. It is a pleasant surprise to see both the IPR Partners are from IIT Kharagpur. Goes on to show the value of niche selection by colleges.

2. HNLU arguably has the best alumni base among all Tier 2 NLUs by far.

3. No surprises at all with GNLU and NUJS who have been dominating corporate placements by absolute numbers for some time now.

4. Lack of NLS and NALSAR shows that their alumni no longer prefer domestic law firms, instead going abroad or in academia/policy/research.

5. The downward spiral of NLIU continues as it remains a shadow of its former glory. The overall Partner base is still the strongest.

6. NLUD has the worst alumni base amongst all Tier 1 NLUs. They still have a long way to go before calling themselves top three.

7. Good to see colleges like UPES, Amity, Mumbai University which proves that colleges don't matter in the long run! JGLS missing like always even though it is Partnership time for their initial batches. Makes you think.

Hi brother, was in a similar situation last year. A certain tech company came on day one and saved the day for me. Have to admit the work environment is great and pay is only slightly below T1s. From what I could gather the hikes are usually gradual so do keep that in mind before hopping into the bandwagon

https://www.legal500.com/c/india/legal-market-overview/, you can find the listing for every department. More specifically for corporate, https://www.legal500.com/c/india/corporate-and-ma/

[Merged: Will other T1 law firms follow Trilegal]

Will other firms like SCAM, KCO, JSA, Indus, etc increase their pay bands? Or are they going to see mass exodus because Trilegal is on a hiring frenzy for quite some time now and better salary means more movement of associates.

Left-liberals harm themselves by publishing and promoting such shoddy “research”, full of holes and propaganda. Nothing then distinguish them from Trump conspiracy theorists who claim Biden won by rigging in 2020.

The truth is that the public genuinely voted for Modi in 2019 and preferred him to Rahul or Mamata or Lalu or Akhilesh as PM. Left-liberals need to find a PM face who is honest, not a nepo kid dynast, has a track record of good leadership, and does not divide and appease vote banks on the basis of caste or religion. Someone like Naveen Patnaik would be a good choice, else an outsider like Narayana Murthy, Kiran Mazumdar Shaw, Raghuram Rajan, or an ex army general.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/ashoka-university-dismayed-over-facultys-research-hinting-vote-manipulation-in-2019-101690944241222-amp.html

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/research-paper-by-faculty-member-lands-ashoka-university-in-political-row-4260975

Is it true that all the law firms might increase the pay for 2024 batch.. I know of the following pay offers made to 2024 batch;

Trilegal - 19.5

Saraf - 18.5

Khaitan - on the verge to increase

Rumours are there that all the other firms might follow this.. will Luthra, Indus, Cam, Azb Sam do this?

Undergrads in any law school in India barely know how to do any disciplinary/ empirical research. That’s what law school is for. You learn econ well enough maybe you get to assist a prof with competition law or law and poverty type paper. Maybe you make co author . Then maybe after graduating you publish a sole authored paper.

The value of studying economics properly is not in just one CV point.

Fwiw, some of the stuff written by undergrads at nls is actually quite good. Most of it so far has been Doctrinal research but it’s nothing to sneer at.

There are plenty of instances of quality research output by even current NLS students:

Kartik Kalra: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14729342.2023.2234749

Sukarm Sharma: http://nujslawreview.org/2023/05/16/rescuing-article-19-from-the-golden-triangle-an-empirical-analysis-of-the-application-of-the-exception-clauses-under-article-19/

Priyansh Dixit and Sukarm Sharma: https://academic.oup.com/slr/article-abstract/44/2/hmad004/7202008?redirectedFrom=fulltext

1. I know a lot of people are highly optimist but it’s not so rosy on the inside, the work ain’t that great and office politics is worse than one of the earlier T1s I used to work at before switching over.

2.Funds team is where the actual game is being placed, sorry to say don’t see much of a scope for you with transactions, however given you are from NALSAR, I assume you to be a hardworking chap so maybe some exceptional performances and a genuine referral can get you through.

3. Both my above answers would have given you an idea about the brand value you can derive.

Also on a parting note, all the best with getting the full promised bonus.

Bhai/Behan, kya bakchodi kar rahe ho? Bandi/Banda gaye? Jaane do. Ki pharak painda ae? 23-24 saal ke bache ho beh, zindagi padi hai. You'll find love again, and it'll be for the better. The world hasn't ended, there are other people who care for you and a lot of other things that'll make you happy.

I understand it feels empty and impossible, been there done that, was with her for four and a half years, took shit from her, from my family, her family, fucked me up tbh - and she left me for another guy. Not that I blame her, bache thei dono, woh bhi boht toxic aur mai bhi, still it took me three years to move on from her, but when I did move on, I realised how much I missed out on and how I mistreated those who cared for me. Trust me on this, no one is worth a second though after they have left you, you'll only be wasting your time and emotions. Aage badh, chalta hai, hota rahega, rukneka nahi.

Baat rahi batchmates ki, agle saal se majority ki shakal bhi nahi dekhni, temporary insaanon ke liye permanent damage kahe karna baua, khudpe focus karo, aur koi Jawaab nahi hai. Motivation is a scam anyways, just ask yourself do you want to fuck your shit up and slow your life down for a couple of years or process the grief and hurt, move past it, and get on with your life. The answer is pretty simple in my book, is it in yours?

True that is because NUJS is comparable to NLS as far as placements are concerned so for someone who is only looking for placements then that's not a big issue. However, SLS is considered to be much lower on every front compared to NUJS so if someone is leaving for SLS from NUJS then thats a cause for worry!

Nice to see the jealous trolls downvoting OP's comment, despite the fact that it actually wishes all the other law school students well too. These are the people who will derogate anything posted about NUJS, mostly because of a sour grapes syndrome, but also because they hate to see other people doing well. All that bile must play havoc with their digestive system!

Nluj reaching to new lows. They are ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ that they have postponed their day 0 process for Cam, while in reality day 0 is over and what is happening is them requesting the students to not speak openly about their placement offers, so that they can facilitate the placement of rejected students by giving them false ranks. May not be a 4th/5th year law student to understand the dynamics of day 0, but old enough to realize ▮▮▮

Am happy to be corrected if someone can provide concrete evidence to refute it.

Hi, I had been doing an assessment internship post graduation and it has not panned out. The firm is refusing to give me a straight answer.

I need a job urgently, I'm based in Delhi. I don't know where to look as Linkedin jobs are a bust and I am not getting replies to cold emails. Any sort of job, law firm, in-house etc would do as I really need one right now. What should I do?

Yay so NLU's impart such high quality? Yes the level of education is mediocre but the student achievements trump most NLU's. It's because of this tier 1's like Trilegal, SAM, CAM, AZB have actively hired from CHRIST over so called "tier 1 NLUs". Not everyone is privileged enough to spend a ton of fees just because it's an NLU.

Why would anyone want to join any firm that differentiates between salaried partners and equity partners? And have the family partners hog most of profits and still have payscales from 2012. You all made an informed choice to join have fun or wait for

Trilegal to poach your partner xD

I'm currently an an associate at an T1 from an non-NLU who worked hard to get here so I'll ignore those snooty comments. I didn't read selectively. Just because you are a "topper" and have decent "corp internships" doesn't mean you have to be hired.

What matters is the knowledge you demonstrate in your interview and your ability to be humble and learn. An student with good Tier 2 internships who has a good grasp of the basics can get hired over someone with just cursory Tier 1 experience .The value of marks depend on the quality of questions and the syllabus.

Again it's not your fault, the hype given to "toppers" during law school ensure most become complacent thinking academia will impress potential recruiters. This is a misconceived notion. Please introspect and all the best! )

Genuine Query:

Is the RICC actually going to put ▮▮▮ whenever they decide to come to the campus, with stuff like they postponed their day 0 because of them?

Do you all not know that the HRs also coordinate amongst themselves about placements? And if so, then please for the love of God, stop spreading lies and rumors.

Hi everyone I am currently working as a A1 at a decent T2/3 firms Corporate team. Due to some personal family issues ( health of family members) it has become important for me to get a job that allows me the flexibility with working from home or somewhat hybrid mode would also be fine. At this point I don't mind if it's a law firm or in house or startups that allow that , as getting a gap in my work experience is also something that I want avoid. Any responses would be appreciated . Need geniune help !

Stop censoring people on the batch group! Just stop it. It's getting embarrassing. Also, to those who were lucky enough to get jobs, either through ranks or through external support, please keep quiet. We know you got jobs and are proud of it, but please stop rubbing it in faces of those who had worked much harder but saw their jobs getting snatched from them on account of criminal incompetence and mismanagement.

Just please stop. It's sickening.

As someone who was consistently amongst the top rankers, I am deeply hurt and ashamed by the conduct of this RICC. Stop censoring people in the batch group. Have the guts to have a candid discussion and give us a coherent reasoning as to why Cam didn't come to our college, like it did for other Nlus, like NLS, NALSAR, etc.

You have single handedly reduced our college to the level of a tier 2 college. Shame!

Actually every associate in every law firm learns on the job.But Trilegal adopts terrible approach to overzealously selling an impossible legal proposition to clients so as to create more business.Then the entire team is put onto task of achieving the impossible and when it fails,its a blame game.Very common in thwir diaputes team, tgey know the case will tank but still keep chasing it witg avery good shoe put up for the client.The Associates get good learning on how to fool clients,but legal learning is zilch

Sorry, but Communists can’t demand free speech when they themselves are the biggest oppressors of free expression: China, North Korea, Cuba, former USSR, East Germany etc.

And this whole thing is a stunt. Everyone reads on the internet these days, no one reads hard copies of magazines. Your magazine is also available online. So why do you have to create a ruckus?

Sorry but I don't see any content in your criticism. Just criticism for the sake of criticism it seems. "There is nothing such as Bharat" - What's your basis for this statement I don't think you have even read the book entirely and just following your false sense of intellectual entitlement. I said false.

In the middle of all the ongoing discussion about economic slowdown and recession, the NUJS Day Zero continues to witness the best law firms hiring from the university, even if they are not pretending that it is business as usual. Other than JSA, all the other firms participated in the Day Zero process, and the total job count excluding duplicate offers and including PPOs is well over 70 already, with some results still to be declared. Hope the batch of 2024 from all other law schools is also doing equally well or even better. Here's to facing the future challenges together as fellow professionals!

They can hide, but any one ▮▮▮ can see the ▮▮▮ they have done. And yes of course, they would want to censure it because that's how the RICC members are going to pat on each others back for getting a recording breaking 25 fucking day zero placements from an established nlu.

I am sure they would be so proud of themselves after ruining their very own day zero.

Let's compile an extensive mega thread outlining our daily routine and how a typical days looks like in our life, from rising to the bed to hitting it.

This will give us valuable insights into our individual productivity and accordingly we can introspect in our routine thus we can improve, regardless of our roles, whether you're a student, academician, independent practitioner, A0 till the partner.