Organized by the School of Law, Forensic Justice, and Policy Studies, NFSU in collaboration with the Indian Council of Social Science Research.

Find details here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nfsulawofficial_2nd-international-conference-on-forensic-activity-7095297427817005056-GEjX?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Desklamp is a good reader app. Look for the earlier version though. It is not available on any app store, just download from the web. It is an independent project made by some IITM folks. It can make notes on the right side as well. It was designed ground up with reading and note taking in mind.

At the end of these five years of slavery (pointless moots, "research" papers that contribute to no one or no thing, phony relationships with fake people talking to you only to make "connections", outdated and boring curriculum, horrendous projects so much more useless crap), only thing that lies ahead is more slavery. What are some non-slave jobs that I can start aiming for from my current (second) year? I'm in a tier 1 law school, and the idea of interning for 12 hours in my break months did NOT resonate with me at all, and I, much to the distaste of my classmates, chilled and had fun and read things I wanted to, and I plan to do the same in all my future "internship" breaks. I have friends who are proudly boasting how their work hours were from 9 am to 11 pm, and it makes me pukish. I don't blame people around me at all, they are doing just what they came here for - the problem lies with me. I want my weekends, my holidays, my sick-breaks, my leaves. Help please. Do tier1 MBA-Grads also slave as much as law firm people? Would eyeing for an MBA post five year law dumb in hopes of getting a more ~laidback~ job? What about in-house lawyers? I'm rather poor but I don't want to make 50 lakhs a minute, and would be content with a normal, sustainable salary and life. Civil services looks nice but is a gamble, and might not be the best thing to spend four years of my life prepping for, only to not make it in the end. This is my first time here and I apologize for any mistakes.

Finally can we make this a healthy and popular thread finally I have the same exact query

Finding myself in the web whether to join sr chambers or go have a law firm lol ps already done 3-4 tier 1 internship.

Eventually I wanted to litigate but scared whether when leaving the sr chambers will I get my own clientele. Whether I will be able to sustain a family and cope up with all the materialistic things that one buys : luxary cars watch’s high end purses

Unfortunately for false news spreaders like you, there is now so much in public domain that someone writing like this would fall on his face. One does a google and pick any of the top reputed global rankings be it Chambers, WWL, AsiaLaw, IBLJ etc. - ICUL has topped each one of them in Funds/asset management space as a firm/through its individuals. For instance, this link of AsiaLaw (https://www.asialaw.com/Jurisdiction/India/Rankings/323#rankings)

like many other global publications would unanimously show the topmost slot for ICUL/team in Investment Funds amongst all top age old law firms. This is no small feat for a rapidly growing young firm making space for itself in such quick time and which cant be without paying the best, having best team/culture/large global clients.

And if one happens to be on Linkedin, it would also show a number of its past members in top brit firms.

So I am smoking the right sutta & am not sharing it with you 🤣make peace with their success 😇

Here are some (hopefully) helpful suggestions. Thee have worked for me up to a point. To be entirely honest, the most weight I've lost was in the first year of Covid when I wasn't eating outside and was doing a lot of the housework because no maids etc. :-D

1. If you can, speak to a nutritionist to see how you can alter your diet to lose some weight. A keto diet, if done properly and under supervision, actually does help with weight loss, but don't think you'll suddenly drop 5 kg in a couple of weeks. It takes some months and has the potential to cause health issues in some people (my wife and I tried Keto for 6 months some years ago. We lost weight but also ended up with severe dehydration);

2. Try and stop eating junk food altogether save, perhaps, on weekends as cheat days. When I started my first law firm job ~ 20 years ago, the only choice for a meal when you working late nights (and there were MANY of those) was junk food and I'm still trying to get rid of all that fat. Thanks to Zomato/Swiggy there's hundreds of healthier choices these days.

3. Reduce carbs and increase proteins (for e.g., cut back on sugar, potatoes and maida and increase meat intake or greens (if you're a vegan/vegetarian). However, if you are reducing carbs, make sure you're hydrating sufficiently (water, not coke/juice/tea/coffee);

4. Eat a big breakfast, a medium size lunch and a small dinner. If possible, eat dinner before 7 pm and then eat nothing till breakfast the next day.

5. Avoid random snacking. If you can't avoid snacking (no shame in that - I'm one of those people), then reduce your main meal intakes and switch to nuts, black gram, sprouts, makhanas for snacks.

6. Keep up the swimming / other regular exercise. Even if it doesn't help you lose weight, it will keep you fit and limber.

It’s one thing to claim that the internship process is lazy, but it’s entirely another thing to throw shade and dirt on the work of CAM’s lawyers. Whatever their shortcomings as an organisation, CAM always produces exceptional work, and it’s sad this post came down to clients allegedly claiming the work to be shady. Shady work and undercutting prices are at least two activities the MP is never going to be doing.

Yes, here is another report : https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/governors-office-seeks-point-wise-reply-from-karnatak-university-vice-chancellor-on-plagiarism-complaint/article67172871.ece

Genuine advice - top rankers should consider higher studies. Placements should be lower in priority. That would show some maturity among law students. The current obsessive fixation on placements is not good for the discipline (and practice) of law. One law school is deemed better than another law school merely on placements - how shallow and superficial.

Ugh this guy is no authority on anything except maybe the business that he's built. Please don't listen to greedy rich people who have ulterior motives and incentives to talk against the tax system because they want to hold on to each and every penny they make.

One - he's not saying anything new. This is the same old drivel that the rich and the privileged spew in every other country.

Two - Pay your fucking taxes and be proud that you do. This guy will never take anybody to a govt hospital because he can afford private hospitals and private medical care. But guess what? Your tax money makes sure that government hospitals can pay to care for millions of underprivileged people who cannot afford any of this.

Look through the smoke and mirrors please.

K Bye

I’ll put it this way. If you’ve ever been to NLUD and studied there, you’ll know why it’s one of the best and why despite “lower placements” as you claim, no one here takes CLAT again. If you haven’t been there, you wouldn’t understand. And all our achievements are publicised. I’m not going to waste time listing if for you. Keep shouting PR, but it’s clear you didn’t get in to NLUD yourself.

Dear Kian,

Please don't crash this website 🙏

I am an old timer, I come here just to know what my juniors talk. I still remember Legally India in 2011, before making Partner at a law firm commenting and laughing out loud.

We could launch a project to preserve this website.

@Moderator - Please show threads like this to Kian.

Totally shameless lady 😡 Also shame on the journalist/YouTube channel for giving her publicity to get views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0B98h9A-6g

I have a decent CV. I can make into a very good chamber, or a decent law firm. (Non-NLU, first gen)

I request my seniors, herein to please, please advise me according to my situation as stated:

- I want to practise, nothing else (in the longer run)

- I want to become a designated Senior counsel, want to start early.

- I want to go to a firm only because of money for 3-4 years, and then join a senior counsel. The problem is, till when I would follow money? After 3-4 years, I might be a senior associate, might make double. Would it be possible for me to leave that and get back to a chamber again for far less than what I could make at a law firm? I doubt.

- I can negotiate with chambers for 40-50k.

- I don't need to look after my family at its entirety. A slight contribution will suffice. However, I need money to lead a dignified life in a metro city, not mere animal existence.

Thank you in anticipation!

If given a choice, please choose CLC. The brand value (or what remains of it) goes a long way. Doing internship in the morning and attending college in the evening is impossible. Wherever you'd intern, they'd want you to be present the entire day in office.

You'd get plenty of time in CLC to intern. Teachers aren't strict about attendance and if you inform them beforehand about the internship, some would even be willing to co-operate with you. People used to miss a month's worth of classes for internships in a semester and were still able to take the exams.

Advait Luthra, nephew of Rajiv K Luthra joined as A0 in 2022. After Rajiv's death, he has been promoted directly to partnership and is the successor. Though, it's just ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ promotion and should have been avoided as 25 year old can't become partner anywhere else.

This has been the most stressful month of my life.. I joined JSA gurugram in their first full PPO intake batch in recent history and I feel completely scammed. It's too late now for me to go anywhere else and I have paid so much money to shift cities and it's awful here. Where to begin??

The equity partners all hate each other entirely. It is so comedic at times that they can't even bear to sit with each other at lunch and come sit with associates while gossiping like aunties!

Everyone here seems to hate it as well. Associates, seniors, principal associates even RPs are cribbing all the time about poor salaries and no retreats. I don't know if it's normal for your team seniors to casually take headhunter calls during the day while at work!

Work quality is so bad everyone is just doing diligence diligence and more diligence! Even RP's are just doing diligence work.

The building is so run down and stinky. They are actually sending admin emails asking people not to clog up toilets because this old building can't handle it and causes smells.

I feel like I have fumbled a big opportunity to come here and be underpaid and overworked by a bunch of oldies who are too busy fighting each other 🥲🥲🥲. JSA legacy what happened to it????

It could be better for sure but certainly not in shambles that people feared. It's holding together and just another testament to the loyalty Rajiv commands from the grave as well - many who would want it continue thriving. Its the kind of loyalty you cant buy and that will go a long way in keeping the legacy of Rajiv alive and kicking. Won't be surprised if it comes back stronger in a couple of years.

So I've a BA.LLB. from a Central University, and I happened to clear XAT.

I am currently in XLRI Jamshedpur HR section, pursuing an MBA.

During a chance encounter with a Professor, I casually enquired about my concern for placement, as I come from a law background, unlike 99% of my Bcom, BBA and BTech batchmates.

The professor told me that I would, in all probability end up getting placed in the HR team of a tier 1 law firm; and that Law+HR MBA is quite a unique combination.

So, wonderful people of LI, what's a law firm HR's life like? What's a typical day routine, and how much do they make?

Will I be able to afford an Audi? If yes, in how many years?

Thanks

😘😘

I'm an upcoming 2024 graduate from a decent private college. I've got a few good internships with boutique/T2 firms and have participated in a few moots. Would really appreciate any possible information about spice route legal's pune team. Are the hiring at the present/accepting long term/assessment internship applications? If yes could anyone share any insights as to how should I approach them?

TLA (Tree of Life Associates) Bangalore - Good L&E, GC, IPR Work. Decent Pay (40k ish for a fresher) - Amazing Work Hours (On Paper, its 10-6, but in a lot of cases, people can leave earlier also). From what I've heard, they don't bar you from taking up your own work outside of the firm, as long as you finish your assigned tasks as well. Its a nice quaint office, with about 15 people in a good neighbourhood (Kalyan Nagar) and it feels more like a group of friends working together than a firm.

YOU SHOULD PURSUE CA PROFESSION AS IT WILL GIVE MORE SATISFACTION.IT HELD BY INVESTMENT BY ONCE YOU BECOME IT GIVES YOU RETURN WITH INTEREST THROUGH OUT OF YOUR LIFE.AND IT A COMBO OF MULTI KNOWLEDGE AND SPECIALLITY.WHICH GIVES YOU A RESPECT AND DIGNITY IN SOCIETY.YOU WILL BE EYE OF THE WORLD.A VVERY DEMANDING PROFFESION IN NOT ONLY INDIA BUT ALSO COSIDERING WHOLE WROLD

I used to be slim. Now I have become a fatty because of my law firm lifestyle. For the past 6 months I have been swimming 4 days a week for 1 km regularly. Though I feel good after swimming and think I have lost weight, the scale shows no changes at all. Things are still the same. Why is it so? I have reduced my junk food intake. Please suggest what I can do. What have you guys tried to do to lose weight? Is lifting the only answer? ☹️

The title "Harvard of the East" has always been used within NLS in complete irony. I know nearly one thousand alumni, and not one of them takes that term seriously, or treats it as anything other than a giant joke.

As anyone with a passing interest in Greek drama would tell you, the Greeks used the concepts of the "Alazon" (the vain braggart) and the "Eiron" (the underwhelming counter to the Alazon) to simulate a direct dialogue between the characters and the audience.

Dialogue that is "of Eiron", or "ironic", is meant to talk to two audiences at once, but both within the same person. The first hears the dialogue, but does not understand what it means. The second, on hearing it, is aware of the first audience's lack of awareness, and is also aware of the underlying layers to that dialogue. Irony is a little like quantum superimposition- if an object can be in two places at once in quantum physics, then irony assumes that two memetic units are conveyed, even though only a single meme is immediately apparent.

Sadly, it seems that only one audience exists within you.

Seeing a lot of "losing hopes" posts lately. Getting a job in a law firm is not the end of the world. I started my boba tea cart business 4 months- now making 75k profit a month. Will open another cart in a couple of months

( for those curious about economics: profit margin in boba tea is very high because of the korean fad, 50rs per cup and my cart is located near south campus delhi where the genz footfall is very high)

Getting a job at a law firm is not the end of the world after 6 months around 1 lac pm will be passive money for me.

I'm from the Batch of 2024, so in my 5th year currently. I need to hunt for a job independently because I didn't get an offer on Day Zero. I would appreciate any leads on firms in Mumbai that would be looking to hire freshers in Disputes. Please help this kid who is scared they won't have a job come 2024 :/

In yet another power-grabbing move, the BJP has got a bill passed that takes away the autonomy of the IIMs across the country, by giving the President management powers over all the institutes. Given that Presidents and Governors are appointed these days by the ruling party only and then go ahead to follow their policies, this move marks yet another grave blow on educational institutional autonomy by the politicians for their selfish agenda-driven end. There is no difference between this move and some of the states like Bengal trying to make the CM the Chancellor of state universities. If anything, this is worse, because the IIMs have been given considerable autonomy earlier and they have been doing well with that. All that this will do is for private universities run by cronies of politicians to flourish with their INI and IOE tags, which is what the politicians want in reality. Shame on the government! State government will probably follow suit for the NLUs too, if they are not doing so already.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/parliament-passes-indian-institutes-of-management-amendment-bill-endowing-president-with-management-powers-101691552498983.html

You are barely employable when you graduate. This is the quality of our degrees. You would need about six to eight months to understand how things work in a court. Seniors end up teaching everything to law graduates and hence, refuse to pay. I wish all the seniors paid atleast the expenses for accommodation and travel but I don't see it happening any time soon.

Best way is shut down atleast 80 percent of the law colleges and focus on the rest. This should increase the demand and consequently, the pay. This is what happens with the other professions.

Bumping this in light of the Newsclick controversy and the global backlash against Xi Jinping. According to the website, no event has taken place since 25 November 2021 and the annual India-China conference has not taken place after November 2019.

https://jgu.edu.in/cics/

https://jgu.s3.ap-south-1.amazonaws.com/12th-All-India-Conference-of-China-Studies.pdf

Is the centre still active? Curiously, the then MoS external affairs minister was chief guest at the India-China conference, which was pre-Covid. It shows just how much has changed! In fact, now that the BJP is accusing the opposition of being Chinese stooges, the opposition can point to the 2019 conference and ask why the Modi government sent a minister there!

Don’t drop out. Take my word for it. You wanna give clat? Give it by all means. Trust me clat has gotten more competitive in recent years and undoubtedly you will face trouble if you don’t have any options at hand. I was at the same situation and thought of dropping out fully for clat. But I stayed there and got a decent rank from a tier-2 nlu itself. I am at Nalsar now. Never regretted my decision for a second. Because in exam at the back of my mind , I had this feeling that even if I don’t crack it I still have a bird at hand. Now how to handle?

1. Donate 4 hours to acad

2. Donate 3.5 hours to clat

A frnd of mine this year cracked ailet from a tier-3 nlu , he mentioned that by morning he got over with the acad stuff and by evening he pretty much focused on clat. All the best!

Sls Pune has gone through some rough patches but this year proved why at least tier-1 nlus are still a safe bet and private is not. Sls Pune has crashed and it has deservedly not recovered from it. JGLS can never overtake cause the fee is a factor. However , sls pune has been exposed badly