OMG. Some people said that slogging for a few years in litigation could make one earn adequate enough to not just feed themselves but their families. Doesn't 7 years of experience enable somewhat a financial plank? If not, then those who sell this dream that litigation mai khoob Paisa hai baad Mai are no different than directors of coaching centres who tell students NLU ke baad mauj hi mauj hai.

Check documents required for home loan - https://www.icicibank.com/personal-banking/loans/home-loan/documents-required-for-home-loan

Everyone will take last 3 years tax returns from you and use the income declared to calculate eligibility..

@ Lord Konsi jagh delhi mae 12k ka flat mil rha hai. Juggi jhopdi mae thodna rehna hai. Everyone wants to live in safe locality so that safe locality atleast cost around 17-18 k for one bhk or two bhk also if one is coming to new city how can he make friends instantly and then convence them to live in that flat. Your theory js only applicable to them who are experienced in city or working. Max to max expenses of delhi would be 20 k which includes 11-12 k rent for pg not flat with sharing 3k food around 3-4 k metro. For mumbai avregae pg cost around 15 k with 4 sharing near fort or lower aprel area food is also costly there so. 20 k se toh bhot upar jata hai wha expenses

In my opinion, sticking ONLY to theoretical learning is as bad as sticking only to the practical aspects. You should balance both out.

Prepare for judiciary, but do intern alongside. While your theoretical knowledge would be useful when/if you enter litigation later, as a fresh associate, you would be expected to make yourself useful by a lot of tasks that you just won't grasp through books. Go intern, pay attention to court procedure, learn how filing and drafting works. If you intern for long, pay attention to strategising aspects of a case - this would also aid your knowledge for DJS.

3 people from batch of 26 have published in SCOPUS journals - these are Oxford University Press journal, Columbia university journals etc

https://academic.oup.com/slr/article-abstract/44/2/hmad004/7202008?redirectedFrom=fulltext

https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/rouc20/current

https://journals.library.columbia.edu/index.php/cja/article/view/11115

There are plenty of other students who have published at peer review journals like NLU Delhi Journal of Legal Studies, NUJS Law Review and more...

Batch of 2026 is exceptional for sure

"Islam and violence are the same thing"

Something that Kancha Ilaiah did on Hinduism. His book professes the idea that violence against Dalits is inherent to Hinduism. If you can accept this then you should not have a problem with the idea that Islam and violence are the same thing.

The problem is that there are a range of critiques of Hinduism and caste that are taught in law school but I'm sure that not even a quarter of that amount is dedicated to Islam or the idea of jihad.

I see that lately watch collecting as a hobby is being derided on LI. That's a bit unfair, for every n00b A3 flashing a Rado at some team dinner, there are some of us who are committed hobbyists. We research, review, and then procure our timepieces. Yes, it is an expensive hobby, but we don't do it flippantly. We are serious about it.

Let's discuss watches, and all that come with them (the good and the bad) on this thread. Please don't troll or derail the conversation (at either end, no "this watch is for the poors" kind of obnoxious behaviour, and no "watches are capitalist conceptions, let's cancel watches" kind of wokes).

I'll start - I'm in the 8-10PQE range. I currently own - 1. Omega Speedmaster, 2. Seiko Samurai, 3. Apple Watch Ultra. My future plans (next 2-3 years) include Grand Seikos, Seamaster, and (hopefully) an Oyster Perpetual.

Recently I received an internship offer from JSA (CORP-Team), Delhi office. Being in my 8th semester, now I'm looking for internship that could be converted into job opportunity. Can anyone please help me in getting acquainted with the recruitment process of JSA and how and whom to approach so that I can make sure that this internship gets converted into call back/assessment internship/PPO interview?

Recently I received an internship offer from Argus Partner (CORP Team), Delhi office. Being in my 8th semester, now I'm looking for internship that could be converted into job opportunity. Can anyone please help me in getting acquainted with the recruitment process of Argus and how and whom to approach so that I can make sure that this internship gets converted into call back/assessment internship/PPO interview?

🤣 https://twitter.com/karunanundy/status/1708187370611437600

In fact, "Sanjay" is common among boomer lawyers and judges too: Sanjay Kishan Kaul, PV Sanjay Kumar, Sanjay Hedge etc. So future Senior Advocates and SC judges too will have names like Sia, Tia, Kyra, Shyra etc!

Re savings, you can increase it buy not buying a car and using car pool or taxis instead.

Re OTT, just use pirated sites. You can get all the OTT content you want for free.

Re luxury watches, you can use Fossil or Tissot as a junior. People won't say anything.

Re girlfriend, she should pay the bills also, at least sometimes.

Then we have no evidence of the last year being 'good' either. If you don't release placement report, then don't make any claim about placement. Simple. NLSIU stopped releasing the reports for the last 6 years or so. It is from that point of time that NALSAR, NUJS and NLUJ started gaining in placements over it. That may be just correlation and not causation, but the fact is that those who hide placement data should not be allowed to make claims about placement.

https://www.barandbench.com/apprentice-lawyer/cnlu-patna-national-rounds-leiden-sarin-international-air-law-moot

See this

“Advocates” don’t have documented income proof so won’t qualify for loans. Lawyers on retainers would also need 3 years of continuous income and tax return to qualify. While calculating your eligibility banks would take into account only 50% of your income. (As stated on tax return). You should expect to be approved for a serious home loan before you make T1 PA. In-house lawyers have no such issues.

Loan sharks are not going to give money to lawyers.

These guys are paying their professionals top notch sums and implementing innovative structures to pay as much as they can..spent a few dozen lakhs on organising a top 16 law firm cricket tournament at iconic MCA BKC last year and doing it again at even larger scale this year and the entire law firm fraternity is looking forward again to participate. And you are hellbound on reducing Andheri’s real estate pricing and quoting 35 rs. sq feet next to Mumbai’s 2 airports…bhai sab theek thaak na !! tumko accha bonus nahi mila then tell your partners no 🤣

Hi. I am a litigation associate at a firm, practising in Mumbai. I have very recently started my practice. How difficult would it be to move my practice to Delhi after a year or two, considering that the current firm does Arb and Insol along-with court practice at the DHC/SC as well.

Thank you.

35 sq ft rent in mumbai..hahaha…you seem to have just got up from coma after 2 decades...andheri premium buildings ve 200 plus sq ft carpet..n 300 carpet in nariman pt!!! Smoke good quality weed bro..and JP Morgan and PwC are not back offices in Nirlon and NESCO..their rents are way higher than any nariman point or fort buildings..this has to be the funniest comment on Mumbai’s real estate knowledge one can ever read. Developers will commit suicide. Keep entertaining the audience though :)

No senior will pay you more than 2L per month. This is also just for seniors with a practice in DHC, BHC, SC and international arbitration. (And a sense of decency).

Most will allow you the freedom and time to take on your own cases while you are working for them from day 1. Just being a junior to a big senior will attract a few clients to you.

Once you prove your mettle and develop loyalty (minimum 3 years) they may send clients to you. To make a decision on who to work for look at how their non nepo ex juniors are doing.

I agree with you. It's not as if the author could not have anticipated the grilling either. Karan Thapar has done this to all his guests numerous times. He grills and doesn't forget any answer. The author was poorly prepared and one wonders why anyone would even take the trouble to read his book now when he himself can't justify its purpose beyond some vague homage to Gandhian ideas that the Constitution "ignored" apparently. And this is also why NLU graduates are not taken all that seriously in the mainstream media. Of course, only NLS is old enough to have many older graduates as of now (maybe NALSAR to some degree as well). These law schools excel in teaching students certain kinds of puffery under the garb of good English language, but when faced with a equally/better-prepared expert on a certain subject-area, they seem to fold so easily despite it being their "area of expertise".

More and more fundamentalist and religious views are being expressed in the garb of RW views these days and that's a fact. No educated person should agree to such views being aired in an educational institution. That is not the same thing as the intolerance and indoctrination that these views are consisted of. For example, one of the speakers was officially supposed to speak about how Islam and violence are the same thing. Freedom of speech does not extend to that yet, thankfully.

Arghya is generally brilliant and a very sound legal mind. I think what’s happened here is that he doesn’t have any conviction in what he wrote (making his project sadder and more dangerous). To argue that the constitution is colonial because it finds its base framework in a British era act or that it comes with a unitary/ central bias (staying away from detailed local self government), is about as nuanced an argument as saying it’s also drafted in English, ergo British. Forced to engage with its substance and departures from colonial articulations of power v the framework of rights, as Thapar makes him do, he reduces his whole argument to one of semantics and historical trivia. Just as the penal laws in India being colonial literally and because of the machinery of violence they place in state’s hands, is being used to draft laws that in part further consolidate the state’s power - Arghya finds himself a witting participant in a constitutional project he cannot fully (at least intellectually, morals aside) digest. This was plain to see.

Regardless of whoever it is, if they have this kind of hollow legal reasoning from guys like ASG for such change, then it will only lead to more problems. I am not left or right, but this whole "national pride" idea is a political game rather than anything that will actually help individuals. There is no shame in accepting that Macaulay's 1860 IPC has shaped our criminal jurisprudence for the better, but the new Indian criminal laws have numerous loopholes, are largely a copy-paste job except they are poorly organised. One hopes the Parliamentary Committees can adequately address this. Similarly, creating a new Constitution is also not something that can be easily justified unless the present one is entirely unworkable. The problem with guys like ASG is that they go abroad when it's convenient and they benefit from it but then come back and criticise Western influences. The hypocrisy could be overlooked if their arguments had substance, but those don't hold ground either.

No university gives its placement report to NIRF. It is clear that you are a troll who has got no idea about how things work in the real world. Nor has any NLU released multiple batch placement reports at one go at any point of time in this century. It's pathetic how you trolls come up with these stories to divert attention from the opacity that multiple NLUs have about their placement. NIRF only wants certain numbers like total students placed and median salary in the form of self-declaration without any fact to back those up, nor is the data submitted ever verified. To try to pass it off as placement report is an indication of your desperation. Our alumni are doing fine, as are our students. They don't need your validation. They can and do get all the jobs that they want, along with scholarships, litigation, policy work and every single career avenue open to a law student. The fact that you can't stand that indicates your insecurity, not anyone else's. Mark how despite no NLU being named for hiding reports or giving fake data, you automatically started defending it. That's the sign of guilt.

ias is better in terms of everything money and other benifits in begning it might be less but extra benefits like big bungalow, guards, big office,by government further high respect. Power are various like you act as District collector and also executive magistrate even can order for arrest. Quality of life is good although also dependent upon place of posting. Also in some time promotion would make you cabinet secretary and seceratry at state/centre govt

But think about this, if the director of India's apparently biggest legal think tank can be countered so easily and fallacies of his arguments can be debunked by a non-legal personality (on a subject which should be forte for every lawyer and especially of a founder of country's biggest legal think tank), doesn't this reflect the hollowness of the legal education system of the country and puts a big question mark on the legal profession itself?

Where are we headed? Do we have any value towards contributing anything positive to this country? (I agree that there have been some legends under this profession; but largely the profession has been overwhelmed with people like Sengupta)

By this fashion anyone can release placement reports. And also a lot of colleges give directly their placement reports to NIRF or releases it after a combined period of 2-3 years. It’s not biggie. But ofc judging by your alumni’s insecurity, y’all will ofc debate on petty issues

Hierarchy of indian jobs -

Union Cabinet Ministers

VV Rich business men (Adani, Ambani)

Ministers

MP

MLA

Rich business men (lotta cash)

The 1 % in their profession - eg best surgeon, best lawyer, etc

IAS

IPS

IRS

IFS

Any person who started as grade 1 officer by clearing UPSC (IAAS, etc)

successful - Doctors, IIM guys, IIT guys, lawyer

business men

the rest

Law student here. How about this, with a salary of 1 lakh per month salary at hand and minimum 50K bonus annually?

1. Save 10% of the salary at the outset. So, Rs 10K a month. Put 5K in savings, 2K in a flexi FD and 3K in some sort of investment plan based on your risk appetite.

2. Living costs minus rent: Spend 20% of the salary . Thus, 20K on food, clothes, petrol, OTT subscriptions etc.

3. Car: Spend 20% (20K) of the salary per month to repay EMI on a car worth Rs 7.5 lakhs.

4. Spend 10% (10K) of the salary a month on luxury goods like iPhone, Swiss watch, expensive shoes and expensive suits. That's not enough, so maybe buy an iPhone through an EMI model and a second-hand Swiss watch.

5. Spend 30% of the salary on rent. Thus, 30K.

6. Finally, 10% of the salary (10K a month) + Rs 50K bonus on the girlfriend. Assuming moderate maintenance, save 2K a month for her birthday present (Rs 20,000) and remaining 8K a month should cover coffee at Starbucks every week and 1 dinner a month at a reasonable restaurant. The 50K bonus should cover 6 dinners a year at a 5 star hotel.

How's this for a plan?

Yeah. It was a demolition job by Mr. Thapar. For a journalist to put a "legal scholar" in place so easily is quite impressive. The title of his book itself is very suspect and the author is unable to justify it in any form or manner. He conceded to nearly all the counter-points and unwittingly even contradicted his own premise of the Constitution being "colonial" in his responses. Hell, he even claimed that the book was not to critique the Constitution but was more about its origin story. Then, why even bother with that title? It's clearly aimed at generating attention (and controversy, maybe) but without any real substance. And his recommendations for changing/improving the Constitution are also extremely vague and fluid (how exactly can there be "moral regeneration" for a billion-odd people using one written document?), to a point where it seems like he's sitting on the fence about it because he knows the Constitution's longevity and effectiveness cannot be easily undermined. It doesn't seem like the book contributes anything much to constitutional debates, in all seriousness. With all due respect, guys like ASG and Sai Deepak are not the same calibre as Ambedkar and BN Rau.

Because for the Jan Dec Bonus they can make you wait till March 31 and for the increment arrears which are announced on March 31 they can make you wait till July end.

Promotion kicks in on 31 March itself. The incremental salary will start from July retainer fee onwards along with the arrears from April to June.