https://www.legallyindia.com/lpo-legal-process-outourcing/24-year-old-nujs-student-starts-up-lpo-20100115-395

I read this and was truly inspired of how good of a visionary he was. Anybody utilised his product?

They didn't give PPOs. Getting a job on Day 0 is not getting a PPO. And our placements are and have been abysmal as compared to the top NLUs.

(To whosoever started this thread) While great lawyers come from everywhere and there shouldn't be a caste system amongst law school, such comments aren't a good reflection on ILS.

Dude, I'm from NLUD and I really think you should grow up. Alums fought very hard to stop our domicile quota but it'll take one sign from the VC's office to bring it back, if it comes to it. So, stay a little humble, we're not that much better than the other NLUs, just a little more lucky thanks to our location and funding circumstances. This hubris is unnecessary.

This is an incredibly helpful comment. The following link can help the OP to a certain extent as well!

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/264496-guidance-uk-law-schools-lnat

I presume you are applying to oxbridge as well (keep an eye out for their deadline, which is ahead of the regular UCAS deadlines). If you are considering a TC at the end, have a look at https://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/where-to-start/newsletter/law-firms-preferred-universities

In the US, law is a PG subject, so only possible after 4 years of UG

Your goals matter a lot in choosing the place where you want to study UG law, do you want to settle there? do you want to come back to India? do you want to be a solicitor or a barrister? how much can you spend? etc.

You are privileged and blessed by money, maybe it must be your ancestors who has done horrible deeds. But rest of upper caste are in middle class and voting BJP is only choice.

However i agree with jitni abadi utna haq, as long as it translates into separate electorate for everyone. Aakhir every community need to elect their own leaders. Thats where it will lead to eventually, so always trade with caution. There will be hard rigid group identity, in antithesis to modern democracy, at whose core lies individualism.

Hard structured identity will be a stepping stone for another partition like tragedy or blood violence which this nation has evern seen. But i am looking forward to it. Upper caste's future doesnt lie in coexistence.

See as far I can understand it's the matter of skill sets which this person has developed over the years. From the JEE Exams, he must have developed great analytical and reasoning skills, from the Clat, he must have developed great English and Critical Reasoning Skills and ultimately, these skills such as analytical, reasoning, and English skills helped the person crack the SAT. So, it's more of a skill-based thing.

Right now, looking at the scenario of the fees of the top 30 b-schools of the country, it seems that the total cost to complete an MBA would be upwards of 30 lacs. Repayment of this amount would take on average 7-8 years, which adds another 8-10 lacs as interest payment. So it's about 40 lacs of cost. Given your profile of yours, you can expect an average package of 10-12 LPA as CTC. So, in-hand would be 45-60kpm, out of which 25-35k would go in email and you will be left with about 25k or so, which is not a great sum given the high cost of living in the cities nowadays. So, make sure you make a good decision. Also, a corporate job after an MBA is as hectic as any Corporate Law or Litigation Practice under a senior is.

Since you have prepared for government exams, you will have good chances getting accepted in a teaching job. MBA mai, you will need a lot of investments and the market is already bad. There is no certainty that the money would be enormous even after MBA. My advice would be to take a teaching job anywhere. Even in coaching centres. Passionately pursue this space. After some time, explore passive income avenues. Life sorted.

I know a person who was supposed to get a AIR under 70 in both of his attempts but messed up badly in his OMR due to him being casual. Dude’s giving the exam again this year. Look out for him. He studied only for couple of days (and I ain’t even kidding). The thing is that the exam is tough but for some people focus becomes their deadly force to crack these exams.

NLUD is on decline. Just like Delhi is the worst city in every aspect, NLUD is the worst place to study law.

NLS/NALSAR/NUJS were, are and always be invincible. Even NLIU and NLUJ are better options than NLUD currently. In terms of placements, all 5 of them definitely beat NLUD single-handedly. And now we have got other reasons to not place NLUD above these five.

Delhi was already not a safe city. Parents also now do not prefer sending their kids in a gas chamber. NLUD can only be a place for rich kids of Delhi and neighbouring areas who are oblivious to suffering of large population of the northern belt.

Speaking from personal experience.

While having an internship from a Tier1/2 firm does help, what matters at the end of the day is how well you can explain what you researched during the internship. People take interns, who are clear about the points of law and their research interests, from Tier 3 firms more seriously than an intern from Tier 1 firm who is unable to explain what they did during their internship.

Giving a run? How? ILS Pune people can't even write a page of proper research output or legal opinion. They can't have elective papers. Most of their faculty still teach from textbooks of pre-2000 edition. Avtar Singh is their go to text for most things. All the people who came from ILS to different programmes and competitions to Delhi were nowhere near even our average students, let alone our toppers.

it works both ways. Students don't like to work so they will bully and run out of town professors who are expecting rigor. Obviously, someone with no rigor like this Sameena Dalwai ends up staying for years and getting promoted year after year until the stupidity offends a number of students. It is obvious to everyone now that Raj and the admin really don't know anything that's going on at their university. It is one thing to have their professors have academic freedom, it's another thing entirely to not be aware that this kind of low-quality no-rigor teaching is happening and not have caught it for years because the prof likely inflated grades and played along with the corruption. The admin only reacts to student complaints and almost always ends up caving in without investigating for itself , why has this person been there for years and been promoted and no one has sat in her class once to see what she teaches or looked at a lesson plan? Why have good professors been run out of town because a few students lied about them instead of actually having the admin sit in class and see if any of the allegations were true?

The buck should stop with raj- but theyre too busy making money off the students. So instead we have the inmates running the asylum here. Shameful state of affairs.

The best of state universities in behind them. From here on it will only be a downward spiral - the reasons being indifference by the respective states, administrative inefficiencies, lack of primary to research, unchecked growth in the number of seats, no commensurate increase in infrastructure, inadequate funding, domicile and various kinds of reservations, general limitations of being state entities, steep hikes in fees without any improvement in quality of education among others. The state universities are too dependent on past laurels and do not show any progressive future vision other than launching new programs and increasing intake. They have no USP that makes them stand out.

so you got one grade, (youre assuming or you have proof that it was because of viewpoint discrimination?) and then when the paper was reevaluated you got 3 grades higher?

Thats a vast enough difference that something iffy has gone on for sure. either the former grader or the latter has not done their job. Why do you think it was related to your politics?

NLIU, HNLU are just washouts and things of the past. NLUJ needs to start hiring proper permanent faculty first. NALSAR is okay, but not really anywhere near the top any more. The NLU model should be like NLUD, which is not bothered by elections. Whichever government may come to power in Delhi, we are a national university and will be treated as such.

Keep burning. NLS and NALSAR are in their dotage and trolls like you can't handle the fact that you are no longer king of the hill, with your oversized batches, programmes that got nothing to do with law and declining funding. NLS is going around begging for land, where a sub-par ex NLS prof who couldn't cut it as VC at NLUD has now fled to NALSAR to take charge. With your domicile quota students who lack merit to earn their seats, you all are studying in state colleges, not national universities.

Totally disagree. I know at least two of my friends who gave IIT and CLAT at the same time but failed to get an NLU, but did get a lower IIT. I also know one senior from my law school who made it to an IIT and yet chose law. You need to study properly for CLAT, it's not like you studied PCM the whole year and get up one fine morning on the day of CLAT exam and go on cracking it.

You are just salty about NIRF data because you couldn't get through AILET, Other than that one median salary mistake, NLUD has been ahead in all metrics compared to whichever law school you are from. NLUD faculty are best in research compared to all others. Example, even though Mrinal and Aparna were doing good research here, once they got kicked out and went to NLS, their research output has dried up completely. The number of quality publications by NLS faculty during Sudhir's tenure is minuscule. As for NALSAR, they don't even have a single good faculty known for research. Even Dhanda is not really there anymore.

It has been said many times before, but AIIMS is measured by quality of medicinal publications, research, quality of doctors and its state of the art medical facilities and procedures offered. Not by UPSC. Any professional course has to be benchmarked in that field only and not by UPSC or BANK PO or EPFO or Army or SSC exams.

Depends on the topic that you choose for your thesis. If it's corporate law-related, then I would advice against it, since they don't have good faculty for that at present, with the head having joined NLU Meghalaya as VC recently. Criminal law, international law, IP, yes. There's not a long delay in general, around 3 months from submission. Depends on the external evaluator. Unlike NLS, the current head does not believe in playing with the career and lives of students/scholars.

not a rumour https://news.careers360.com/amu-court-finalises-candidates-for-vc-post-cnlu-vc-faizan-mustafa-among-recommended-names

we will get to know before the winter session of parl if FM goes back to AMU

You burn out when you go against your values, your nature, your long-term self interest

You are doing this to gain some short-term trade-off, but your core is revolting

I will advise you that you take some time to introspect and find what you really want to do instead of blaming an entire industry as toxic etc

There are people who will thrive in the same environment, let them

Don't put the responsibility on outside factors, it is your responsbility to discover what suits your own constitution

You look at yourself and introspect about what is the environment where you will thrive and find that

Then act with conviction

I wish you all the best :)

I just finished reading it and seriously, what an incredibly well-written book! I genuinely cannot imagine how someone without a formal training or background in literature can write such prose.

Take a bow Shishir. The trolls will find something to snipe at you with, but I hope you write on. So proud that a practicing lawyer wrote it.

Can we have a clear identification of the various faculty/alumni featured in this documentary (batch/what they are up to now)? This was done for the NALSAR 2005 documentary, would be nice to see this NLS version as well.

Please, in good faith. Do not turn this into a comparison or toxic thing.

Request to admin. This was supposed to be a nostalgia evoking and all loving (no-hate post) but NLU D trolls have to make everything about themselves. They just don't seem to digest that they are not at par with NLS-NALSAR. Every time they have to take a dig at these two institutes. I mean this post is not even about them, yet they have to interfere and somehow seem successful in converting a harmless and historic post in praise of another law school into how they are better than everyone else. #PleaseBanNLUDTrolls

Bhai NLU D is not even in the reckoning. NUJS may be. NLS and NALSAR are the OG Tier 1s. Even as per your latest NIRF you are just 0.2 points ahead that too after lying on one of the most important metrix that is placements. NLU D has misquoted a figure of 18lpa as average placement which is just plain wrong. You remove your lies then even as per NIRF you stand nowhere. Anyways NIRF has been unanimously bashed on this forum. So let's not go into that. Placements, Infra, NAAC ratings, alumni network everything taken together NLS and NALSAR are the real Tier 1s with good competition from NUJS, NLUJ, GNLU and these days yes NLU D also.

Recency Bias and nostalgia, real or perceived both.

I am nearing 30, and the songs that I used to loathe as a kid, I vibe to them now.

Further, "Better" is subjective. Take for instance Donald Bradman today. A mediocre pacer from a non test cricketing nation today would have given an extremely tough time to him, but he is considered the GOAT because of what he did and when.

Beatles/Rolling Stones revolutionised pop music. Celebrity worship became a thing. Their songs were the call for rebellion for an entire generation (mostly for US & UK), and they became exceptionally famous.

But their kind of music just starting falling into obscurity as newer, more catchier music took hold. Its natural.

They were timeless classics, and tbh some artists like Weeknd will end up becoming timeless classics from this era.

This is not at all a new topic on this forum, but i come here seeking help.

I have been working as a corporate lawyer for 2 years, and of late, i really feel like i'm burnt out. simple tasks take me ages to do. getting out of bed is actually the most difficult part of my day. i feel so detached from the work i've been doing. i feel like i've just been on autopilot watching this year go by. it doesn't help that my team is especially toxic and the distribution of juniors and seniors is just a mess. partner is a controlling micromanager, and i've tried to speak to them about the way things have been going and how i've been feeling, but my words fell upon deaf ears (as i had expected).

Is there anyone here who has any tips, any words of wisdom?

Decent private college student. About to graduate in 6-7 months.

Did 4 Tier 1 internships and 2-3 Boutique/ Tier 2 internships across Capital Markets/ General Corporate and B&F but did not get a PPO despite multiple callbacks.

What should be my course from here? Try to do assessments for T2? In such case what could be the better names I should aim in eithe rDelhi or Mumbai which would offer best scope for PPO in any of these above areas of law. After this how should I appear for direct interview for post of A0 or in house, are these direct interview only contact based or is there a correct way like cold emailing partner? Please help