I am a fourth year law student, from a Tier 3 NLU and I find myself in a bit of a predicament regarding my internship. I have the opportunity to work virtually with a team that greatly interests me, or alternatively, I could work in the office with a different team. Personal reasons have restricted me from interning with the team of my choice as I’ll have to travel to another city, yet I'm also keen on securing a callback. Can anyone who’s ever been in a similar situation give their inputs as to what would be the correct choice? What are the advantages and disadvantages of each? Additionally, what are the prospects of receiving a callback with a virtual internship with the team of my choice? I am scared that I might not be able to fit in perfectly to the team I might be allotted in the instance of a physical internship as I have no past experience of interning in that field

There is a simple way to ensure life is not absolutely terrible.

An easy trajectory is join which ever law firm team you get and in maybe 15 months, once you have some experience move to a very high pressure high performing team. Push yourself for the next two / 2.5 years. Learn as much as you can. For that time do sacrifice the work life balance. After that, research the good teams, the ones with nice people and moderately decent work and move there. Grow with that team and don’t move out till you make partner. You will appreciate good decent people after the ringer with the high pressure team. Your work hours will automatically be better. And you would have learnt how to manage deliverables in a short span that you would now have time for other things in life.

All threads on LI are NUJS bashing thread because people just cannot digest the fact that a place that they have been claiming as doomed since a decade is still going strong and its grads doing as well as those from any other place. Doomsdayers and naysayers love to preen anonymously.

Here’s an SNL Skit from eight years ago which has aged so well, given the state of things in university and the news-

http://tinyurl.com/mrdeudhs

Kian - please let this pass! We could all use a good laugh!

a couple of weeks ago, I had made a discord server filled with features such as

1. an open to all forum without moderation

2. specialized text channels

3. tags

4. voice channels

with link in a previous post's comment and around 30 people joined. I tried to make a separate post to share its invite, but the mods have not approved it. Maybe if enough people comment below that they would like to join it, the mods will allow it.

P.S This server is not related to legallyindia.com in any way possible

Sorry hit the send button without completing the reply. Yeah so about JGLS, go there only if you can easily afford it, for various reasons, like Scholarships are not guaranteed for all 5 years, there's a lot of rich brats there just waiting to ruin their lives and then join their family businesses.

About tier 3 nlus, they really aren't doing very well tbh. Neither do they have strong alumni or brand name like GLC does, nor are they really good in infra or faculty. Yet, talk to some students there, get the latest experiences.

So tldr,

Go to GLC if you think you are a highly motivated and hardworking person.

Tier 3 nlu works but don't keep a lot of expectations from the institution as such, but a diverse student body with many motivated people will definitely help.

Don't do JGLS unless you are used to such environments and can afford it easily

I'll suggest going to GLC, but it's a risky move ngl.

At GLC, your success will literally depend on how much you are willing to put in.

And believe me, even if you are all hyped up thinking that you'll do everything you can to make sure you use the location and time advantage that GLC provides, it's not tough to get demotivated and lose track. So think hard about it.

About Jindal, if you can't afford the normal fees, please don't go. Even with a Scholr

Focus on the guide and not on the place. Do some research including using social media hivemind to find out the best people working in the field where you wish to work, the universities that they are affiliated to. If possible, write to them with a basic proposal. NLUs and private colleges will obviously charge a lot more as PhD fees, compared to traditional state/government colleges/universities. If you wish to do the PhD only for career progression though (hopefully not), then guides may not be that important. Unless you have got JRF, then you need to research about universities offering fellowships, but in your case, I don't think you will be eligible for any given that you are already in service.

Hi friends. We are less than 100 days away from the 2024 elections. Political parties, as well as MPs in their individual capacity, have begun recruiting college students from across India as interns. In some cases, consulting organisations are recruiting on behalf of political parties. A lot of the work is part-time WFH online, such as research on policies, spreading awareness on social media, or editing Wikipedia pages. In some cases there is paid work, in some cases there is no pay. Either way, a certificate will usually be given. Thus, it's a perfect opportunity for law students. You can get work ex and build contacts without leaving home or campus, plus do something for the nation . You can also make friends, as there are meet-ups with other volunteers. It will certainly count as a university-recognised internship if there is legal and policy research involved. So that's why I have started this thread. The idea is as follows:

1. Identify which cell of which party is recruiting. For example, legal cell of BJP, minority cell of Congress etc.

2. Identify which internship will result in legal and policy work. For example, if a party hires you merely to march on the streets and hold placards, that is obviously useless.

3. Identify which internship will result in a certificate. This is very important.

4. Along with parties, identify which MPs are recruiting in an individual capacity.

5. Similarly, identify which consulting firms are recruiting.

6. Finally, most important: share email ids or social media pages where once can drop in applications.

Inside gossip about party strategies and policies (e.g. UCC or caste census) are welcome, but please don't make it about pure politics like Modi vs Rahul, as this is an internship topic. Thanks.

Just saw the news, Dr Jaishankar was invited as chief guest for the 3rs convocation of the rashtriya raksha university (RRU) in gandhinagar. Was surprised that the convocation was being broadcasted on DD. Had no idea about said university.

Went to their website and saw it's an IoE, high profile dignitaries like Amit Shah, Ajit Doval etc regularly attend the university.

Found out that it's offering law courses as well, especially in forensic science. The recent criminal bills lays a lot of emphasis on forensic science.

Does anyone know how good that university is ? What are the law courses like ?

Hello people! So i recently wrote clat exam, and have chances to get a tier 3 nlu, tier 2 if I'm lucky enough. I wish to do a partial drop to try my chances in clat 2025, but untill then I have to join a college

Which college should I join? Tier 3 nlu, GLC, sls or Jindal? Keep in mind I'll choose Jindal only if i get a scholarship if not I don't think I can afford it.

Second thing is, if im not able to crack clat next year, I need a law school that can still help progress both academically and career wise

My goal in law school is to get into a high paying law firm job, although it might change in the 5 years so, please recommend me a good law school that can help me with this

Hello everyone, could you please provide information on reputed law journals that accept submissions from undergraduate students, both in India and abroad? I have a few blog publications and now intend to venture into writing papers. Specifically, I am seeking recommendations for foreign journals but few unknown Indian ones would be appreciated too. I am already familiar with popular ones in India, such as NLSBLR, NUJSLR, JGLR, etc.

Pay is one aspect like everyone pointed out, yes. But that's not the only thing. Plus, I feel you can retain talent with even 20-30k, provided other aspects of your office are good.

Provide them opportunities to grow. If you run the show, as you say, there isn't much for the juniors to do - other than perhaps prepare some briefs for you, find some judgments, make some drafts. Give them some more hands-on experience. Let them argue. Let them deal with the clients. With oversight, of course. Also let them use your resources whenever possible. Good seniors help their experiences juniors get on panels, get independent work, etc.

Which is the next important thing. Let them take up independent work. They are in this profession not to be your juniors forever. Their goal, naturally, is to move on and build their own practice. Be their mentor for that. Help them.

Once you're actually mentoring people, and your office culture is not toxic, people will stay. In fact, don't ask us. Ask them, maybe using anonymous forms if you have multiple juniors, to give you feedback and let you know what they really want - what they expect out of this office and you.

If you’re smoking just to show off, avoid Marlboro as it’s an aam admi brand. Benson and Hedges also. Stick to Dunhill and Davidoff. But the real deal is premium Cuban cigars, like several law firm owners smoke. That should be your aspiration. In fact, if you’re smoking to impress girls, cigars will make you look like a proper sugar daddy.

One of my friends worked at IPAC and got in through a contact. All he did is shitpost for the TMC IT cell on social media. No policy work. But he got a fabulous salary (same as a T1 firm) and a reference letter which helped him get into a top ranked university abroad with scholarship.

My own view is that Prashant Kishor is overrated. He has advised both winning and losing parties, but his PR machine only hypes up his victories. Also, the 3 major victories he is credited for (Modi, Nitish and Mamata) were anyway guaranteed. Modi because the public were fed up with UPA scams. Mamata because of the Muslim vote + populist subsidies. Nitish because at the time people were angry with Lalu Yadav and liked the development work that Nitish had done.

Just to clarify, I'm a self made developer been one since I was 13 and usually per webapp get paid 1-2L and for some blockchain projects it could be even higher or for some betting websites. Can anyone tell me, what type of business i should start or do to spend this money and also, I'm kinda afraid of tax department and all so I'm moving my money to crypto have 13L in banks and daily moving 1-2L to usdt

NUJS has got ongoing research projects and joint activities with universities like Cambridge, Leicester, Sheffield, KCL, Victoria and Glasgow to name a few. Regardless of what the anon trolls say here, a diligent student can always find opportunities that would suit them. There is no reason to engage with trolls any further, who can keep spewing uninformed hate as much as they want to, considering that they won't really amount to anything in the real life.

I've secured an internship at a Tier 1 firm for February '24. However, due to filled slots in my usual team, I've shifted to the general corporate/M&A team. This change has left me unsure about this legal niche and the specific tasks expected from an intern. Seeking guidance and insights on navigating this team, tasks, and the best approach to secure a call-back. As a newcomer, I'm eager to make the most of this opportunity and explore this niche. What tasks should I expect? Any key regulations or due diligence practices to prep for beforehand? Grateful for any insights or advice.

Hi OP. I've done this twice, so I believe I can tell you a few things that I wish someone had told me back in the day.

Firstly, there's no perfect way to go about it — the HR will hold some degree of grudge against you & your college's RCC/PCC/ICC — you've got to accept that reality and move on. This is a simple business decision, and HRs and your RCC/PCC/ICC are well aware that every rational person would leave a T2 firm if they get a nice enough team of choice in a higher paying T1 firm.

Secondly, once you've decided that you'll be saying no, try to do it as early as possible — the best case scenario is to back out when you have only an oral confirmation rather than after the receipt of the formal mail. The more you delay, the worse the dynamic will get b/w you, the HRs, and potentially the RCC/PCC/ICC as well as any partners who recommended you.

Thirdly, on the actual content of the conversation/mail, in addition to the basic essentials, try to make it look like it's based on as many external factors as you can think of. Here's an example:

- this is your first physical internship in this city, and after a lot of illness and troubles, you have received medical advice that because of your seasonal asthama etc, the city of Delhi is simply not sustainable for you. Thus, you can't accept a full time position with that team/firm.

Lastly, be as polite as possible — appreciate their internship programme and organisation as much as you did in the PPO interview etc. Apologise to the HR for causing them inconvenience, and draft a formal message on similar lines to the partner/seniors who recommended you. The last part can be supremely helpful, because one of the partners ended up being considerate about it and expressed interest in recommending me whenever need be.

Saying no is never an easy thing within any form of corporate communication, but sometimes needs to be done regardless. All the best!

Hi, it's completely team-specific, it depends on your team and partner- how proactive they. I got the call from HR the next day after the callback internship ended for the first interview round. The whole process took around three weeks including two rounds of interviews.

On the other, I have my friends who have finished there callback internship and they haven't heard anything regarding PPO.

Leaving bangalore for DU? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.

Dont come. Please dont

P.S- DU in general and North Campus(where the law school is )particularly is way more prestigious then any Law school. It is way more charming, fun, historic compared to any of the NLU's.

The govt has admitted that the appointment violated UGC guidelines. So what happens to the appointment of the next NUJS VC in 2024? Will the appointment process be fair and transparent there?

https://tv9bangla.com/kolkata/west-bengal-government-submits-affidavit-to-calcutta-high-court-on-manik-bhattacharya-974331.html/amp

I am interested in understanding the career trajectory of litigators and would appreciate insights from experienced lawyers. Specifically, I want to know what to expect from a career in litigation in three distinct scenarios - an average career, a good career, and a prospering career.

1. How does one's career evolve from starting as a junior to going independent?

2. What are the average working hours at different stages of a career?

3. What would be a rough estimate of income?

4. What kind of skills am I expected to/will attain over time?

5. How does the career of a specialist (IPR/Tax) differ from others?

Note: I am still a student exploring litigation as a career option. If any of these questions are naive or ill-informed, please refrain from jumping at me and just move on.

I have been running my own litigation practice for 2 years now in a metro. I am 7 years into practice. Initially, I ran the show. But, with increasing workload, i have hired people only for them to leave in 4-6 months.

I work harder than them, treat them well and encourage them to conduct good matters

I pay them decent around 20k-30k based on their experience. Give them freedom to take up and run their cases from my office. I

Vis-a-vis GNLU, literally every parameter. Not that GNLU is much worse a place, I personally admire and respect how well they've grown in the past few years, and the place deserves all the credit for that achievement. But let's be serious, NLUD is still better. You won't find a single person at GNLU who's cracked AILET. And I know people who've ditched NUJS and NLUJ for GNLU, but never NLUD.

Hey

SAM and CAM and even Trilegal to an extent have a policy of differentiating contact based interns from the RCC interns.

1. 2 weeks instead of 4

2. No presentations for assessment

3. No active work assignment from seniors

4. Not much HR coordination and no filling of feedback forms.

@GC with Board Role -
@ Another GC -

Hello, I am from small city and went to small college , I have only litigation experience . Can we talk few times if you would be willing to give some kind of direction to me ?

kindly respond soon
Thanking you ,