Even in my law school a girl got married to her bf while in college (she was in 4th year he was in 5th year). It was barely legal (as the minimum cutoff age is 21). It was because of parental pressure from the girl’s family, who are conservative.

TBH I am totally against such marriages. These are couples dating for the first time and getting to know each other. You can’t just marry them off so quickly. Typically, the girl’s parents fear that the girl will get a “bad name” if they break up and she will be a pariah if she was also sexually actively in the relationship. So they literally marry her off to the first guy she holds hands with. This is not only regressive thinking, but also self-defeating. If you are so concerned about what society thinks, what if the guy turns out to be toxic and she is forced to divorce? The social stigma against divorcees is worse!

IMO the minimum age of marriage should be statutorily raised to 25.

At the same time, why not also name the lawyers? So that the firms can also know who have been fired ?

The entitlement to be in a job is astonishing.

Instances where people hired more and then let go, is irresponsible but where there may be real issues of performance- what do you expect an institution to do? Hire/retain for CSR?

Here’s a 3BHK that's close by and comfortable https://www.sothebysrealty.com/india/eng/sales/detail/797-l-3892-ze3bl2/prithviraj-road-new-delhi-dl

if you want a corporate job joining any llm programme is a terrible idea. Youd be better off doing whatever job you get now- doing it really really well- and moving laterally after two years. You wont be wasting all that time pursuing an academic degree not constructed to help meet these career goals and will learn stuff that will be useful to you. Youd be better off being an unpaid intern for a year than a fee paying llm student that will not get the same brand name benefits.

First of all he is going against Indian foreign policy: first on Ukraine and now Israel.

Secondly, does he have the credentials for the job? What international law experience or scholarship did he have prior to the appointment?

He was originally a Manmohan govt appointee. Could t they have sent a Senior Advocate with international law experience?

I'm a British Citizen who has lived in karnataka for the past 11 years and is going to give CLAT this year. I heard about a Foreign Quota which costs a ton more but is easier to get into. I was not able to find much details but was told that there are 2 seats in NLSIU, Bangalore and 10 seats in NLUD. Can someone tell me a little more about how these quotas work and how I could make use of it? thank you.

I completely agree with this comment. The Bombay bar could benefit from understanding how courts are supposed to operate, taking cues from Delhi. The litigation scene in Mumbai is truly lamentable. I have a case there scheduled for a final hearing, but I've been informed it might not even REACH in my lifetime. How absurd is that?

even 10 years back, almost all of the big law firms were more or less family run. there were name sake salaried partners and most of the equity remained with a small set of people who inherited the business from their parents or uncles. these guys usually ate the largest chunk of the pie leaving the crumbs for the others. this was indeed a form of rent seeking.

are these days finally coming to an end? are the big guys loosing out to the smaller guys who are growing and getting bigger? is this not something that the lawyer community can be really proud of? i mean compared to litigation which is still largely run by the family guys, are we not seeing some genuine opportunity for someone who is not from a lawyer family to grow? can we call this a genuine success of capitalism in India?

Hi. Query is same as title. I'm not from an NLU but have done 7 internships with good chambers, DHC judges, and a T2 firm. Looking to apply for an assessment internship in some law firm where I can join as an Associate this year in July. I want to join some place that gives me lots of exposure and experience in trial courts and HC too. Any firms/chambers which pay ₹30K+ would be good.

Thanks!

No way anyone rejects job offers for assessment internships! Get your head out of your posterior and be truthful for once!

People beg for assessment internships, where even if firms are not inclined to hire them, and pester their way into this position; and then, if they're not truly brilliant (which is the the only way you would get in) and are not made an offer, sully the good names of the firms that are nice enough to grant atleast a modicum of insight on the skills and lawyering required to work at the firms.

Thank a lot OP. Initially, I was also thinking about going for B.Com+MBA or BBA+MBA route. However, I didn't want to limit myself to business and management right away, and perhaps its volatile nature scares me for now. So, I've decided to focus on law because CLAT is conveniently 8 months after the NEET examination on 5th May. This way, I can prepare well after NEET.

The response would greatly depend on where do you stand in your professional journey. Have you completed your degree, or are you still pursuing the same? If the latter, which year are you studying in? If a graduate, how many years PQE, etc. The only reason for such a query is because the requirements of a student requiring career counselling is far different than that of a professional.

Civil Lines is an affordable address that's close to both the Delhi High Court and the Supreme Court. Unlike slummy East Delhi addresses like Laxmi Nagar, it also boasts safe public parks and clean roads. I recently moved to Civil Lines and must say it's a lovely place. Rentals for 2-3 BHK flats in Civil Lines range from 30K to 1L per month, depending on the age of construction. It has an excellent nightlife of its own too. Civil Lines is one of the most underrated addresses in Delhi; everyone thinks it's expensive because of the bungalows, but not many are aware of the apartments there, many of which are quite nice and relatively solid value for money.

aptitude test?

if you are talking about a career guidance test I have already given quite a few, and scored follows in the onet test (it was the only one which was quote one quote official so)

https://imgur.com/a/08vzVkl

If you were talking about an actual aptitude test to measure my IQ.. I had already taken one in 2021 and scored128ish.

Seriously OP, hear this one out. Play your cards safe. A friend of mine legit ended up resenting work due to a slightly senior associate who made his life pure misery. Things went to the point of a public verbal "disagreement", IYKWIM. Chamber politics gets real nasty at times.

Hey OP - honest question. Since from your post you seem ~ 7/8 pqe, which means about a PA, how much of this you've implemented for your own juniors, the guys who report to you? And what were the actual challenges you faced and how you managed? And do give more recent examples since whatever you have mentioned above is more close to what an A0 or A1 will do and get away but the world would be different for an PA. Not to troll you but want to exchange notes.

Bro Aashna, trashing a fellow "law student helper for internships" isn't fun, it displaces trust in you and calls your integrity into question. Samanika may not be the best and the charges are quite high, but I have heard that her mentorship calls are quite informative and atleast specialised advice, unlike Aashna

True, the funds team had a good experience. They were always occupied researching on good topics and the Associates and Seniors were actively involved in it as well. They were the only ones who worked all the time. My time there was honestly a waste. Good luck to anyone who's in the funds team. Ayush is good to work with.

No research memo only submission of tasks alloted during internship.

Summarising judgments so that it's easier for the associates to read (not for the firm) and even for the firm. Nothing good comes out of summarising a 70-80 page judgment everyday lol.

Summarising Agreements which are available on the internet doesn't make sense.

Yes, summarising Acts too.

The chamber associate is playing politics and doesnt want to increase competition in his work-place. Nothing new. Even if you get into this chamber, that associate will behave like a prick and absolutely not co-ordinate with you. I am also guessing that this particular associate is also the right hand of the Boss. You may face tough time beating him in his dirty workplace politics. Tread with caution.

Giving hopes of recruiting, false promises, showing their willingness to convert a long term internship into a PPO is morally and ethically wrong. It may not be a big deal but students tend to take terrible decisions because of these promises. Also, if the firm is not looking to recruit then it's best if no assurances are made. Better live up to the word given by them.

Pov of students- if any such assurance is given, the student may not line up any internships, may decline offers/ assesment, may have to cancel up on internships, etc. This negatively impacts the career of a student and many students do feel depressed after spending 5yrs or 3yrs (3+3=6 years) into a profession where they don't land a job.

You keep mentioning this vision across multiple threads. What is it exactly? Hiring new faculty of the same repute as Sudhir has been doing or Ranvir Singh had been doing? Curriculum change is also very vague. Did the industry provide any input for the new curriculum? Otherwise it's the same thing that most NLUs do and NLUJ hasn't been doing for the last decade, that's all.

Some thoughts on this, as a PA in a law firm.

Everyone should do more than bare minimum. What is bare minimum anyway. If you are paid for it, do what is expected. Don’t kill yourself. But nothing wrong in trying to do the best.

On the 10 pm rule and weekend rule, it’s a good rule. But if you see an email from a client on Saturday morning saying they need an asap turn around over the weekend and you push back, you are not doing what’s expected.

But otherwise if it’s not urgent or there is no client pressure, no need to force yourself to work over the weekend.

i have another 7 months left to join the college i've been allotted, otherwise i wouldn't have the free time to engage in this discussion lmao. so.. these are just my thoughts, not exactly "law school leftism" . anyways, why does it seem like you've interpreted a whole bunch of nonexistent statements out of what i said?

im just gonna say, first and foremost, im a cultural conservative. i believe that a lot of new gen philosophies and ideologies are self destructive and often downright egotistic and narcissistic. i also believe that capitalism is the best system we currently have at our disposal. that being said, i don't think it is flawless. no economic system ever is, and if you worship an economic system and consider it to be as sacred and unchangeable a religion, then you've clearly lost it.

coming to your first point, you missed the essence of what i was saying. i was providing an argument analogous to what was being stated above. the argument above goes like "well, don't forget that this system has brought about the material prosperity you're utilizing today! that's reason enough to keep it around forever!". the point is that many systems have brought about a certain level of progress, but it is not worth keeping them around simply because they can bring progress/have brought about progress at one point of time. it must be examined what cost we're paying for that progress to determine the efficiency of an economic system. i never stated that colonialism, bonded labor and slave trade are a part of capitalism. i drew a parallel argument to show how flawed the comment above was.

and y'know, the funny thing is, if you look at the prime days of capitalism, the days when it was bringing never before seen levels of prosperity to the west, you'll see that those times were fraught with conflict that the west exploited. they would exploit the cheap labor of underdeveloped countries in order to cut labor costs, they would extract natural resources at a low cost from third world nations and prop up regimes that would facilitate their arms trading and war mongering, all the while portraying the picture of being a beacon of liberty and a symbol of the success of the "free market". a market can never be truly free if there exists such a massive wealth and power imbalance (as is visible in most capitalist countries, please do check the Gini index). you can tell a poor man about his freedom of occupation and such forever, but in the end the directions he can go in are very restricted in practicality. that is why a free market can never exist as long as there isn't a certain level of social equality that is present between the citizens of any state.

as for your second point, i.. don't get what made you believe that anywhere in my message i talked a single time about "office going AC havers" being sad about.. not being influencers? what?

"but the population has grown manyfold. several economies have been hit by successive recessions. the mental health of most people has dropped tremendously while they work in jobs paying peanuts given by the benevolent corporate capitalist gods. unemployment and underemployment are on the rise. "gig work" is becoming more common too, which is basically the same thing as hookups in the job market. companies cut off employees and employees cut off companies much faster and with much less hesitation than they did in, say, the 50s or 60s, leading to an era of great uncertainty."

please do read this part again. it's a clear reference to the low wage workers who have to travel all the way to big cities in order to get a minimum wage job so they can send money home to their family, all the while living in miserable conditions themselves. all because mr free market capitalists decided to exercise their freedom and not pay these folk enough. it's his free choice to work there, right? and the boss can decide how much he wants to pay, right...? if he doesn't like the pay, he can just leave, right....? except it's not so simple, considering this man will be impoverished and starving if he doesn't accept the terrible working conditions, while the boss could care two hoots about whether he joins or not. you see why freedom can't truly exist when there's such a huge disparity in resources?

Tier 1 NLUs are primarily corporate oriented. They prepare you for the rigors if the law firms. As an added bonus you will be more involved in things like Moot courts, paper publication , etc.

For entering academia LLM from a prestigious uni is preferable. Either from Tier-1 NLUs or from a reputed foreign institute.

1st of all check their age. 2021 grad here. And I am 25 yrs old whereas lot of my batch mates are 27ish.

2nd things take time. Take it at your own pace.

3rd Early marriage doesn't guarantee anything. Had a cousin married at 27. He's 35 now still no kid. On the verge of divorce.

Hey sorry I can't write an elaborate answer rn but,

1. Don't take a complete drop. Ever. The success stories are an apt example of survivor bias. I am a survivor too but would never want a junior to go through the grilling process of a complete drop. Always prefer a partial drop over it.

2. A t2 NLU badge is worth it.

3. Don't be a pessimistic.

4. NLUs do open a lot of barriers for you so yes, NLUs are worth it. Same goes for other t1 law schools.

5. NLUs do encourage you to pursue legal academia if you are genuinely intrigued by it. Watch a few YT videos of NLU grads speaking about legal academia. It will be of great help to you.

You should seriously consider the bcom+MBA path. It was a backup option of mine but I cracked CLAT so yeah. I was from an engineering background too fyi. Only difference being that I had economics as my fourth subject.

Ps- B.com in itself doesn't hold much value unless done from a t1 college so be prepared to give a ton of mba entrance exams right after your undergrad.

Secondly, I would definitely suggest law as a career path. Even if you don't have those connections, you can still very well flourish if you have a genuine interest in it. Don't join if you are not intrigued by it. A fair warning. Law demands your focus and interest.

Ps- It goes without saying but joining a good (not necessarily great) law school is vital.

Lastly, I would suggest you to stick with what you have been doing for the last two years but ofc you know yourself and your capabilities better than anyone else. Just don't go down the engineering path. Experience se bata raha hu it's not something jo wo log kar paaye jinpe engineering ka bhooth na sawaar ho.

Here's the lowdown, babe. Clearing the AoR's exam is no rocket science. The sooner you join this club, the better because, with time (and better management/oversight), this will become a harder exam to crack. Being an AoR opens a potential revenue stream, and why should you disentitle yourself from it!?

Hey a fellow fresher here! Got an AIR of late 1500s and am almost guaranteed a CNLU BBA-LLB seat in the 4th list as the closing rank for CLAT 2023 was in 2100s. Coming to your question, yes it's obviously possible to retake clat after joining a national law uni and many first year students in t2 or even lower t1 NLUs have done that, simultaneously maintaining their grades in the first sem. To answer the latter part of your question, the main breakthrough to secure a better nlu in your next attempt would be to achieve an apt ratio. A ratio which divides your time into two parts. One for focusing on what's being taught and the other for focusing on clat 2025. Personally speaking, it should be around 4:1 but then again idk your goals and ambitions. Just don't mess up your semester exams in order to focus more on clat. Grades are an important factor in t2 NLUs.

What's your point? Not as if the bottom 10-15 IITs/IIMs carry any prestige despite them being central universities. As far as NLUs go, the top few have outperformed many central universities including all the humanities garbage that comes from places like DU. Oh, and NFSU still sucks.

Hi, please answer a few more queries of mine.

Is it true that marking in a few streams is easier than in others? (I've heard that marking in BA is atrocious while BSW has the most lenient checking, BBA and Bcom somewhere in the middle)

Which stream would you recommend if one wants to maintain a good GPA?

Would being from humanities background prove to be a disadvantage while studying BBA/Bcom (for e.g. problems in understanding concepts, coping up with the syllabus)

And how difficult is it to cope with the change from school to college in terms of academics? Will it be manageable (in BBA/BA) if one studies regularly?

I practice in the Bombay High Court and am a first gen lawyer.

Got a client (independently) a few days ago.

He's done insider trading of a stock of a company and some other person with whom he did that got caught by Sebi.(They traced the transferred funds). And he's afraid that it's just a matter of time before he is caught and he's sure of that.

He's demanding that I help him FIX the matter and he's ready to pay me a good fee plus the required amount to the concerned person.

I have no issues in doing it. Plus, i also need the money. But, as a first gen lawyer i lack the contacts. And he won't listen.

So guys, What to do ? And how ?😅

Please help

Graduated from a tier 2 Nlu. Faced the same issues when in college. Here's what I did.

1. Tell him/her you don't wanna do it. After a cpl of times they dont ask. Its their life let them do what they want. Stick to your business.

2. I had issues with the smoke. So just told him so. That he's free to do it outside or in the balcony. Not in the room.

After some time he found other guys who used to smoke up and they mostly did it in the other guys room.

3. The main issue is if he gets caught and they find substance in your room. Then you are going to be in trouble.

Wasnt an issue for me as I never did drugs and had a plan that if they found it in my room was gonna tell that "maybe the roomie does iy have no idea". And insist on a drug test if they try to procto me.

4. And I used to have fun with him tbh. When ever he was high he used to tell me tales and gossip stuff. Plus normal funny Banter.

5.IMP. Don't file a complain . People are gonna find out. And as majority does these things in law school your gonna face issues in the hostel and get a bad name.

Till there is Congress in the alliance they are no hopers.

Take the grand old party out, and the chances of AAP in Punjab, Nitish + Lalu in Bihar, and Mamata in Bengal aren’t affected by too much. Are they?

However, it would be wrong to say that they completely aren’t. Therefore, once Congress is out, the leaders of each of AAP, JDU/RJD, and Trinamool should reach out to local Congress leaders who can carry a seat. I can speak for my state, but someone like Bajwa from Gurdaspur, or Ravneet from Jalandar are Congressis from Punjab who can possibly win (especially if banked or at least not opposed by AAP).

But, yeh hoga nahi. The politicians are not mature enough to face cold hard facts. Therefore, Modi will easily return to power.

Only interesting thing in Indian politics at the central level is ki 2029 mein Modi, ya phir Yogi. Or, koi aur?