Im in a dilemma of wether to choose law or CA as my career path. I absolutely love debates and possess extraordinary persuasion and argumentative skills so I wanted to become an advocate but both my parents are CA and they have built a huge base which makes it hard to ignore CA as a career option. When I told my parents about my interest they fully supported me but they said I should get into any one of the top three NLU's, however I've been alloted GNLU and since I am from the south my parents are hesitant to send me there and they are restricting my options to universities in the south. How can I persuade them ? Should I choose my career based on my interest (law) or based on capacity to earn ( CA ) ?

A lot of Gen Z kids need to hear this: nobody owes you a job, training, mentorship or even an internship. If a firm offered you an internship, they owe you nothing else. Ab tu Achaar daal, salad daal, zomato pe tez dhoop mein delivery Kar, jo karna hai Kar. But yahaan mat puch ki main Kya karun.

"Corporate jobs", lol. A puff piece that cannot distinguish between T1 and other firms and law firm position and in house should be taken seriously? JGLS admin themselves released this and the 'reporter' just parroted whatever they had been told, without any verification.

I am an A0 at a tier one law firm. Most people bring their own lunch from home, but I have an habit of swiggying almost daily. Yesterday my partner commented on this, saying how detrimental it is for my health and yada yada. She seemed a bit concerned. However, the same partner is also notorious for going on smoke breaks every couple of hours.

LMAO. You’re grossly misinformed, kiddo. There was no grade inflation during the times of Menon, Chimni and MP Singh. Quite the opposite and Menon was a tyrant in his belief that you must give 200% to earn a good grade. In fact, a lot of really good people could not secure admits to Oxbridge and Harvard because of this.

What did happen is that certain students got their GPA bumped up during reevaluation, when papers were sent to universities outside NUJS, like Hazra and South City. That was always controversial.

Hearsay or do you actually have proof? If NKC has really done PIB level stuff or more since his appointment as VC, clearly you will have something concrete. Incriminating stuff against NKC cannot all be in the category of "I know but cannot prove".

Grade inflation/liberal marking et al have been happening consistently since the time of Menon. Many other unpalatable things happened (but never got recorded/documented) as well when the "golden trio" of Menon, Chimni and MPS reigned. Alumni including those in the faculty may disclose those to you.

Why single out SJA/students, especially when the reality is well-known? When SJA exposed PIB, it was widely known that a lot of additional information was hunted down by individual students. The faculty member who has lodged SH complaint against NKC was exposed by some of her colleagues. SJA and students had no covert/overt participation beyond what was available in the EC/AC records.

Don't just tell. Show what "bad things" have been done by NKC.

What is with the silly assumption that every student in Jindal is rich? This reeks more of your prejudice than your reason. There are students who take loans and who join with substantial scholarships too. Besides, even if one comes from money does that automatically offset their political and social opinions? By that logic, Marx should have automatically been canceled given that he initially came from money from a prosperous lawyer father. Such ignorant stupidity.

He clearly was not talking about just T1 salary as the usage of the word 90 suggests. Btw apart from T1 and T2 firms, in-houses like ICICI, ITC also offer similar salaries. While in IIT starting salaries of 30k is not unheard of (apart from the CS toppers). Domestic packages wise NALSAR will always win, tax alone will take care of it. And his tax example is totally correct. If you are earning a salary of 1 cr, you can save very heavily on the first 75 lakhs of it. While some IITian earning 1cr will be easily shelling out around 30 to 40% in taxes. Another thing is most of the IIT packages are heavily inflated by companies by giving stock options that do not vest for periods ranging from three to five years. But they show it as CTC on day zero. Source: my brother got such a job.

Authorities are not decided by students, who can at the most vouch for their classroom teaching experience from some of those faculty, that's all. If you cannot do basic research that includes going through contemporary literature in your domain so as to be able to identify good people who have done research in that field and are still teaching at some university, then you may have to revisit your own enthusiasm and prowess in said domain, as a doctoral candidate should known better.

What achievement would that be? Being vocal on anon social media? All NLUD's superiority is in the minds of its students. There is no objective support for any of that. If you are the only 'national law school', then play in a league of your own. Why do you keep comparing yourselves with other NLUs?

I can. Clearly you cannot. The benchmark for comparison for TNNLU cannot be any of the top 10 NLUs at all. There are other NLUs that are perceived as lower in 'rank' compared to NLS etc., but those are still miles ahead of TNNLU's placement. This false narrative that TNNLU has decent placement and the next step is to reach the level of NLS etc. should be debunked for the benefit of aspirants. Contender for T2 NLU indeed!

You cannot choose your PhD guide in the NLUs. If you clear your entrance exam and interview, then the university will assign a guide to you based on your subject and the guide's availability and willingness. This decision is usually taken by a committee that looks after PhD related matters, rarely will the individual faculty's separate opinion be sought about it. The faculty also have an upper cap for the number of PhD scholars whom they can guide at a time, depending on their designation. For Professors it is eight, six for associate professors and four for assistant professors.

It's not that straightforward as Google search. If one is finding an order/judgment from a website, a person would require knowledge of what is meant by O.A., W.P., Second Appeal, Civil Appeal, etc etc.

In my limited understanding, I think in India mostly topmost investigative journalists apart from lawyers/law students possess such knowledge. Therefore, legal Research is not just a Google search. At least for now.

Budget is around 3k.

Want good speakers, preferably Bluetooth.

I've been thinking jbl go 3, they perform well.

I also might need a radio in it, cause phone doesn't have radio app, but if there are external apps that work well with speakers, then no need for the speaker to have a radio in it.

Check this link, I can't believe people are this lazy. Just Google things before spreading such blatant misinformation - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.barandbench.com/amp/story/apprentice-lawyer/rectracker-jgls-batch-of-2023-marks-history-with-103-students-getting-placed-with-corporate-jobs

Lol senior partner had a XUV 700 in JSA. And one of the salaried partners came in Honda City with her driver. Partners are just upper middle class section of society, not super rich people buying luxury cars. This is especially true for Mumbai where the cost of living is so high. Also, if we apply the 20-4-10 rule, monthly EMI comes around 97k-1lakh. That means you have to have a monthly income of atleast 10 lakhs, which is 1.2 crores pa. A newly salaried partners comes around 80 lakhs. So, he cannot afford it. However, an equity partner may afford a luxury car.

Sun bhai. Tera search tarika galat hai.

Type Legal intern in the LinkedIn search bar. Now press enter. Now in the filters select Posts and past 1 month. Now scroll and scroll and scroll for the next 3hrs.

Did you understand what I said? Don't go to the jobs tab, search the posts tab—post as in the thing you post directly as a status update on LinkedIn. Many HRs from top firms directly post on LinkedIn that they are looking for an intern. DM me directly.

So, scroll through the posts and not the Job portal. And you will find tons of opportunities. E.g.- yeh le -

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kashishsharma28_hi-the-ayurveda-co-tac-is-seeking-activity-7161600541356179456-OeTo?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktophttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/swati-khanna-42a63769_hi-i-am-looking-for-a-legal-intern-with-good-activity-7157006164117864448-cFaR?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop Khaitan - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/aprajita-karki_legalopportunity-legalinternship-legal-activity-7161576967190855681-7ND4?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktophttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/pooja-jha-723653b1_legalcareers-legal-legalcareers-activity-7160568071370203136-C8AU?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktophttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/rambir-dalal-63a18b13_employmentlaw-employmentlawyers-employeebenefits-activity-7159169054165925888-XmBz?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktophttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/manpreet18_a-listed-company-situated-at-south-delhi-activity-7158053665637855232-JwYm?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktophttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/aprajita-karki_legalopportunity-legalinternship-legal-activity-7161290075694075904-zY66?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Again. These are LinkedIn posts. So, you have to scroll the posts. All the best.

Taxation is hard but it pays well considering there's less competition. You can ignore the competition from CA's they can only represent their clients in tribunals.My father is a CA ha prepares all the arguments and gives it to an advocate and he charges in lakhs for it, just my father alone pays him around 10l Every year

You need to revisit your tax laws, before you start claiming such things, as your understanding of presumptive income leaves a lot to be desired. In either case, you are still comparing aT1 lawyer salary with 'average IIT salary', despite such a salary not being average salary for NLU grads. As for the rest, feel free to remain king of the hill. I don't really care. The fact remains that a top engineer in today's world earns more than a law firm lawyer and has a much greater work life balance, and the fact also remains that people recognise IITs more than they do NALSAR. If that does not matter to you, then that's great, because it shouldn't. The original comment claimed otherwise, which is a factual error.

If I get selected to a university and I am not allotted the advisor I want, what do I do ?

1. Should I quit and try for another university

2. Should I request the university administration

3. Should I request the professor concerned

4. Should I still continue with the allotted advisor, since it's my own project the advisor doesn't matter.

5. Should I still continue with alloted advisor, but in between keep consulting the advisor that I wanted.

The reason I had this query is I've cleared a PhD entrance and have been told that the advisor I want is not available and I will be given another advisor who's field is indirectly related to my thesis. Really confused, since it's also a tier 1 NLU.

Again, quite cringe to not acknowledge superiority where it’s due. NLUD is literally the only “national” law school since it’s the only one without a domicile quota. And achievements-wise, it’s long since overtaken NALSAR across the board. Only thing it falls behind on is alumni legacy which is anyway being built.

I would choose NLS. Even though the batch strengthen kills NLS, their faculty is miles ahead of NALSAR. That means a better exposure to studying the law. And their alumni network is the best. Plus, Bangalore is any day better than Hyderabad. Nalsarites will downvote but no one will deny that there is heavy faculty attrition at Nalsar today since no young person wants to live in Shamirpet.

Come on , it is no tough. Just basics from your CV (assignments taken during previous internships, Articles/papers published and maybe a question regarding a moot court comp that u mentioned in your CV) + any contemporary issue of importance in the practice area you are taking the interview for.

Tbh faculty is not everything, student body forms your growth and NALSAR has like 10/20 different mentorship programs from student mentors, moot mentors, subject tutors, academic mentors that is filled with top rankers of all batches who help you in every step of the way. But if faculty is your concerns, yes some did leave but it is not as if though everyone has left. We have great teachers such as Neha Pathakji and Sourabh Bharati who are better than those that left. Even other than that, supposing if you do get NLS, you wouldn't get the taste of all the faculties they have anyway considering the high batch strength and increasing number of sections. Instead of a herd, be a part of a select crew.

I have searched almost everywhere. The problem is there is no clear cut answers on which professor is considered an authority nowadays. Gone are the days of Chimni and Chugh where people could easily identify the authorities in a particular area of IL. The best bet now is to ask the current students and alumni. They have a direct experience of who's actually good and who's good just on paper. Thanks. Do help please

While most firms offer 4 or 5 star hotels, please make sure you negotiate that you will only travel by business class before you join a firm. I’ve seen cases where even senior lawyers are being cramped into economy class seats in a 3-4-3 configuration. Not easy to work on your laptop in an economy middle class seat.

I think it’s pretty basic and everyone does it. It’s important to fit in. People here will tell you no don’t succumb to the peer pressure. It’s easy to say these things on an anonymous forum. But in the real world these things matter. Don’t show up to a client meeting or a fancy club in your swift or worse an entry level SUV. It just feels so cheap as if you are an imposter in the big boys (and girls) club. Please have some self respect and atleast get an entry level luxury car.

How is it possible to get an internship at these firms without any connection? I have never heard of my batchmates (3rd year, T1 NLU) getting internship acceptance from them. On the other hand, some of my batchmates interned there in 2nd year due to connections. Also, has anyone ever received any reply on mail sent to SK (also, is he still the HR?)?

Be ready for few tangential qstns from your CV (eg. If you worked on some SHA, be ready to face basic questions from SHA such as what is ROFR, ROFO, Tag Along etc.)

Other than that, read Contracts thoroughly specially the illustrations because there's a high probability of asking case based questions.

Basics of Company law such as Chapters related to Shares, Debentures, Charges, Related Party Transactions, Beneficial Ownership, meetings, directors etc.

Basics of Transfer of Property Act- with special focus on mortgage and hypothecation.

These should be enough, but the main focus should be to thoroughly revise the CV and publications.

Totally wrong. The presumptive taxation limit of 75 lakh alone means that up to a package of 1 crore per annum easily post tax a T1 lawyer will earn more than an average IIT engineer.

Secondly, you are again wrong that we know nothing about the IIT placement figures. They are public and apart from CS branch no other branches get crazy salaries.

Thirdly out of batch of 80 (my era) hardly 60 used to sit for placements. So a 20, 20 20 split between t1. T2 and in house jobs was easily possible. With a batch of 120 and 100 sitting for placements still 30 odd t1 jobs and another 10 can be other good t2 jobs (like indus or SnR that pay as well) can easily be done. Point being the average of 90 or 100 students of Nalsar will always be higher. Again TCS hiring freshers from IIT is again public news and a simple google search will tell you they start at no more than 30k per month. Litigation we are not even talking about. Brand recognition wise IIT is obviously more because most people like you are not having basic general awareness. But I dont care about brand awareness as long as I am making a great salary at T1 and not paying 40 percent of it as taxes.