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2. Don't be so 100% sure about Labour as it currently is being too much in favour of immigration. They have also been making worrying noises about bringing the numbers down (though the number that the OBR (Office for Budget Responsibility) gave for 2022 - 23 of net migration, 745000, is too high). They might be a bit less hostile to immigration than the current Tory administration (maybe more like Tories in 2020 - 2021). Watch out for Labour's manifesto. Even with Boris/Truss, the Indians were negotiating with a Tory party whose manifesto said they'd bring immigration down to "the tens of thousands", which is why they found it difficult (as Tories needed to show their people at home that they weren't being too flexible either). My observations of Keir Starmer's political technique indicate that he is likely to be pragmatic, in other words, for our people, sensible. He might compromise (to a limited extent) on work visas for Indians, allowing for the give-and-take that you have described. Or, he and his people might push hard on some other Indian weak point, forcing us to relent, re. foreign law firms. Remember, Starmer, the likely future prime minister, is a lawyer by training and a former Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP). Therefore, he will be batting hard for the legal sector, something Conservatives in modern times (surprisingly for people who know anything about British conservatism) haven't been doing for some considerable time. If you do some research, you will find that they have made some really damaging financial cuts to the criminal justice system/prisons, and restricted legal aid hugely. This trend of throwing the British legal sector under the bus at home has also been reflected abroad in their reluctance to bat for the UK legal sector in the international space, something which will massively change from July 5.
2) With eyes shut, go for GLC. It is awesome. You can intern throughout the year, they care hash about attending classes.
3) Maybe, but concentrate on your profile building and on GLC academics (whatever that may be) as well. If you think you can strike the balance, go for it!
also which one has a higher chance of getting a job in another jurisdiction (foreign)
1. Flat/Home/PG
2. 1/2/3BHK
3. Single/Shared and how
4. Rent
5. Locality
For example you can say that you live in a sharing flat of 2 BHK with 1 flatmate for 35000 rent near Mahalakshmi cross road.
https://www.deccanherald.com/elections/india/lok-sabha-elections-2024-kapil-sibal-issues-checklist-to-verify-evm-tampered-or-not-during-counting-on-result-day-3039571
If you were a student of NUJS you would have known that but clearly you’re not so stop making these random fake comments on a public forum
The statement went through a GB vote where nearly 400 students approved it
SLS Noida is a perfectly reputable school. Any college you go, you’ll have to put in the hours, hard work, sincerity and honesty, and that doesn’t change for SLS Noida as well.
Previously, soon after NKC came in as the VC, he shut down the medals awarded by the SJA. The then SJA prez didn't even bother murmuring a protest. His successors voluntarily emaciated whatever was left of the SJA.
You will never understand the amt of effort required to get an internship.
Well as far as I can guess they are of no use now, to the concerned person.
But the SJA has been clearly hijacked or manipulated by a certain faction of the faculty. While it may have independently drafted the petition to the EC/CJI but the proverbial slip is clearly showing. The allegation is yet to be proved and the HC direction doesn't really concern the EC, which has been aware of the facts all along (irrespective of the fact whether it formally discussed those).
NKC hasn't exactly done wonders to NUJS but the powers that be are okay with his middling performance and want him around. Those powerful interests need to be shown that NKC is detrimental to their not-so-visible interests. And for that SJA really needs to rediscover its old self and steer clear for vested faculty and admin interests. This associate professor can fight her own battles.
There is still time. Wise up. Be clinical.
https://theprint.in/judiciary/nujs-students-write-to-cji-chandrachud-seeking-v-cs-removal-over-sexual-harassment-allegation/2102705/
DKT
DTHM
HK
JP
KM
PM
PD
RB
SKu
SKo
SR
Furthermore, L&L doesn't force its partners to pretend about "million dollar plus" transactions on camera unlike a certain firm.
Oh wait.. You will name all the has beens
A t1 job in law is extremely luck based even for top nlus (alot of factors at play: grades, mood of firms, for PPO your timing of joining may coincide with an a0 leaving etc etc).
Do not bank on the thought that if you do everything right you'll get placed. Many less deserving get ppos and avid mooters and toppers are left at the mercy of day zeros to take a team they don't want in a location they don't prefer.
If you can repay the loan even with a t2 t3 job then go ahead (or if dad can help in case you are unable ) But if you're someone who is purely depending on a t1 job for repayment. Then it's not worth it. From any college.
Yeah the phd is going on about 8 years- I know many people that have been doing that - there’s been a global pandemic in between those eight years, it’s an unfunded position so he’s had to work full time, teaching 2-3 courses a term at least not to mention all the admin work they put on him at nalsar. And he’s gotten married and had a kid. Raising a child is hard work.
Weakened his own case means what ? All his work ex doesn’t disappear no ? He’ll finish phd this year and knock out 2-3 pubs from that and get promoted to associate professor. Given the easier schedule at nls he has the breathing room to do that.
Someone doing their masters/phd immediately out of law school hasn’t had to deal with all that he has. So I would suggest that law school kids who don’t know what any of that is about and who are barely passing their own courses keep their nonsense to themselves.
The practice focus and clients are very different in the infra field across firms.
So see what kind of work the team does (regulatory/government procurement/pure projects for pvt clients/m&a) and the clients before making a decision.
I actually agree more with the previous ranking.
Trilegal, SAM, CAM, JSA, AZB, saraf, indus
Recently, on holidays especially I’m unable to write a line straight without getting distracted. I’m sitting on a draft for weeks now, I just lay down and keep scrolling X. I have stopped my workouts which I earlier used to be regular with. I’m constantly agitated.
Fearing but have I hit the burnout stage? I tried taking a long weekend off but I did not feel energised and recouped.
WA Uni Uncle... Goebbels must be laughing from .........
2. As somebody who studies in Britain at an RG uni, I am telling you this from observation. You should be aware that they tend (even if they don't say so) to look down on even the best NLUs as not being strict enough, in some senses. This is because those NLUs allow for students who fail/do badly in a law course exam to repeat it and still achieve within the full spectrum of grades. The Brits, on the other hand, do things very differently. If people fail module examinations here, they are made to resit the exam, but at most unis (particularly the Russell Group ones), the academic regulations are designed in such a way that the marks of students are 'capped' at the minimum passing grade (40% at the undergraduate level) if they fail an exam without extenuating circumstances; this means that, even if they achieve the highest mark on the resit exam, the mark noted on their transcripts will be 40%. (Of course, this doesn't take into account the situations where there are valid extenuating circumstances, like illness.) For people complaining about "academic rigour" and using UK law schools as a justification, this may be something worth thinking about. If I were somebody like Sudhir, the NLSIU VC, in order to make my institution's degrees even more highly perceived than they already are overseas, I'd tweak my own AER similarly to match the UK standard.
You claim to have monetary constraints owing to which you joined TNNLU. But then, you also seem to want to party. A person, who is not willing to spend ≈ 1.9 Lakh Rupees per year for education, wants to spend money on partying it seems. Look at your priority. And, no, we do not want a Pune Porsche accident kind of an incident to happen in Trichy.
Also, the university is ≈ 15 KM from Trichy Central. Do not exaggerate numbers to get attention.
Nobody is going to take legal action. Try to get a certificate for the time that you did complete, especially if it's a firm that looks good on your CV
1. Long-term illness.
2. Long-term impact of a medical condition or disability (e.g., your law school didn't give you reasonable adjustments to support with your learning, if you are a disabled person (like extra time/computer usage in exams), or if whatever adjustments they gave didn't facilitate your best performance).
3. Similar to point no. 2 above, some other circumstance out of your control relating to disability adjustments (assuming you are a disabled applicant). Let us suppose you are blind and given a copy of the Bare Act in an exam that isn't accessible to you/isn't in the right format for you, or suppose you had a scribe whom you'd practiced with previously but that scribe fell ill... things like that.
4. Impacts of geopolitical circumstances on your studies (natural disaster, maybe even pandemic lockdowns?) that were worse for you than for others.
NB: There is a presumption that extenuating circumstances were taken into account by your law school professors when evaluating your work. You'll have to try and rebut that presumption.
NB II: You should know that a number of the Russell Group universities in Britain have much harsher policies towards exam resits (when you fail the assessment/exam of a course and give it again) than their Indian counterparts. Whereas in many Indian universities (including the NLUs) they still allow you to achieve (in most cases) the highest grade in a repeat exam, while indicating on your transcript that you had given a resit exam, these British universities do things differently. If you fail an exam without extenuating circumstances, they make you resit it, but they don't allow you to achieve anything higher than the minimum passing mark. They call it 'capping' your result at the minimum pass grade. So if you think you can repeat an exam in which you did badly without extenuating circumstances and apply for graduate study in these places, you may want to think again, because when they see those repeat markers, they are likely to turn up their noses in such cases, thinking that those students had an easier time of it than their counterparts at UK universities (whether this is justifiable or not is altogether another question, I am just stating the realities here).
just do a simple calculation - if you add up all the placement stats and add 20% to it, the figure will not be more than 1-1.5k, that is the total intake capacity in Indian formal legal market with half decent retainer
nlus + top 5 pvt law colleges spit out over 4k graduates pa, apart from then on avg there are 50k fresh law graduates passing aibe from other colleges, taking 5% of that figure it gives us around 6.5k semi decent lawyers who may vie for that 1k law firm jobs.
its simple, we need to have a) reduce number of law college, b) provide stipend for first 2 years for young law gradutes who want to do independent practice insititutionalise nalsa, c) open up the legal market, d) encourage formation of legal partnerships and less independent practice, this will lead to concentratio of resoruces which can then be used to transfer the burden of stipend to them, e) allow lawyers to take a cut of the compensation in lieu of fees
I am asking for career guidance as to when I should switch and is llm worth considering amongst other things.
The fact that I did got the job in the first place is because I deserve it?
Furthermore, I did everything on my own, am a first gen lawyer, who are you of all people to tell me what to do?
1. Amit Kapur and his team can never be tier III (go do your homework)
2. Firms which are establishing their infra practice are being counted as Tier I equivalent
3. For some firms the partners specified are wrong.
4. Not every firm mentioned in Tier I indeed has a tier I practice
1. Trilegal - Neeraj Menon's group (Mumbai and Gurgaon)
2. SAM - Jatin Aneja's group (Mumbai and Delhi)
3. CAM - Subhojit Sadhu (Mumbai) and Jatin Sawhney (Delhi)
4. AZB - Anuja Tiwari and Mallika Anand (Noida)
5. Khaitan & Co - Shivanshu Thaplyal (Mumbai) and Dibyanshu Sinha (Delhi)
Tier I Equivalent:
1. TT&A - Ambarish Mohanty and Akshay Malhotra (Delhi)
2. IndusLaw - Arun Kumar (Delhi) and Deepak Chowdhury (Hyderabad)
3. DSK Legal - Anjan Dasgupta (Mumbai) and Aparajit Bhattacharya (Delhi)
Tier II:
1. Dentons Link Legal - Namita Das (Delhi) and Pushkar Bavare (Mumbai)
2. HSA Advocates: Hemant Sahai and Soumya Mallik (Delhi)
3. Phoenix Legal - Pallavi Bedi (Delhi)
4. Kochhar & Co - Pradeep Ratnam (Delhi)
5. Desai & Diwanji - Parth Sharma (Mumbai)
Tier III:
1. JSA - Amit Kapur (Mumbai)
2. Saraf - Avirup Nag (Delhi)
3. Luthra - Deepak Thakur (Mumbai)
4. Economic Laws Practice - Aakanksha Joshi (Mumbai)
5. Veritas Legal - Jhinook Roy (Mumbai)
6. Samvad Partners - Sitara Pillai (Mumbai)
7. Dhir & Dhir - Guranpreet Sarna (Delhi)
for next 35 it was left front
didi will be completing 15 yrs in power in 2026, she will win at least one more and then hand over to her successor in 2030, then whoever is remaining as opposition will win, so bengal will change in 2031 not in 2026
after that tmc will dissipiate like aidmk, he successor will not be able to keep the flock like dmk
most likely bjp will win in 2031 and then left will win about 10-15 years later
I come from a decent college, still not able to find a job. I have tier-1 fims internships as well and that too they were without any reference but they are of no use now.
I am finding it difficulty to get into a law firm. Facing anxitey and self doubt every day.
I have interrest in Gen Corp and M&A idk what to do?
once I was sharing a cab with a senior prof from nalsar for my first trip and she said you can go to sleep now, when you wake up after 1.5 hrs we will reach the campus
nlud story - i told a native delhi ips officer once that i will be going to nlud, he asked where is it? i told him its in dwarka, he made a face like its at the end of the world, but point taken about metro
People like you should be blacklisted. Shame on you.
Mods- post this. These kids need to be schooled.
I have myself been in that situation and I came out on top.
Had edu loan, scholarship and COVID to assist in expenses. Have a T1 job rn.
But ik people in similar situations who are jobless.
Like
Rafah and California
Eg: Income of 30L
50% Deduction and tax is payable on 15L @ the relevant rate.
Securing such work is difficult and generally needs good contacts or research at an international level.
2. Conversely, which law schools are sticking to high academic standards while grading?
3. Does grade inflation make a difference during placements or LLM programmes? Will a law firm or foreign university prefer someone with an "inflated" A+ in X NLU or someone with an "honest" B in Y NLU? Do law firm HRs and foreign university staff blindly look at grades?
One of the reasons I am asking is that I know a girl from a T1 NLU who had excellent marks in ICSE/ISC (which is a much tougher board than CBSE) and was one of the top students in her school. I expected her to go to Harvard or something, but her rank was in the middle and she went for an LLM at Warwick. She told me that she couldn't make it to better colleges because her grades weren't that high and the teachers in her NLU were very strict.
To,
The Hon’ble Chief Justice of India,
Supreme Court of India, New Delhi.
also Chancellor, The West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences, Kolkata.
Subject: Regarding the allegations of sexual harassment against the Vice Chancellor, NUJS, and expression of solidarity with our Associate Professor Vaneeta Patnaik
We, the students of the West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences (hereinafter, “NUJS”), stand in solidarity with Associate Professor Vaneeta Patnaik in her legal actions against the Vice Chancellor, NUJS.
This statement is being made in light of the allegation made by Associate Professor Patnaik that she has been made a victim of sexual harassment and misconduct by the Vice Chancellor on several occasions between September 2019 and December 2023. She has reportedly faced delays in salary, denial of promotional opportunities and professional threats arising from her resistance against the Vice Chancellor’s alleged demands. The Order of the Hon’ble Calcutta High Court dated 22.05.2024 states that the local committee (‘LC’) instituted under the Sexual Harassment of Women at Workplace (Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal) Act, 2013 (‘PoSH Act’) rejected Associate Professor Patnaik’s complaint on the grounds of limitation. As the Order notes, the alleged acts of sexual harassment were of a continuing nature, commencing in September 2019 and the latest incident taking place in December 2023. The alleged incidents between December 2023 and April 2023 related to her detrimental treatment in the workplace pursuant to the alleged acts of sexual harassment. The LC did not consider the April 2023 actions as “sexual harassment”, and the Petitioner was not allowed to be heard at the Executive Council (‘EC’) meeting dated 21.12.2023, even as procedurally it could not have decided on merits at that stage.
We strongly condemn the presumption of falseness made regarding Associate Professor Patnaik’s complaints and deliberate attempts by the Vice Chancellor to circumvent the appropriate legal procedure by abusing his position of power. These alleged actions constitute blatant patriarchal exploitation and an attempt to undermine Associate Professor Patnaik’s respect and dignity at her workplace.
The NUJS Policy on Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal of Sexual Harassment, 2016 (hereinafter “Policy” or “NUJS Policy”), states that sexual harassment for the purposes of the policy may include unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favours, whether express or implied as well as “any physical, verbal, non-verbal conduct of a sexual nature when acquiescence to the same is leveraged against the individual’s employment, or involvement in University activities or interferes with professional or academic progress or creates a hostile environment in the University.” The same is supplemented by Sections 2(n)(iii) and 3(2) of the PoSH Act. It is appalling that the concerned PoSH Committee, as well as members of the University Administration, have been complicit in this oppression and do not consider such actions to be of a “sexual nature”.
Indian women have been systematically denied any acknowledgement of their experience due to archaic, outdated notions of what constitutes “harassment” or “misconduct.” The reiteration of such stereotypes in court proceedings is unacceptable. An arbitrary dismissal of the Complainant’s claims not only taints the principles that NUJS has historically espoused but also creates an unsafe institutional atmosphere and trust deficit for students, particularly victim-survivors of harassment.
Section 19 of the PoSH Act obligates employers to provide a safe workplace environment. The alleged hostility and indifference by the University Administration and repeated retaliatory actions undertaken by the Vice Chancellor against the complainant are unequivocally condemned by the student body. We also condemn the actions of other faculty and non-faculty staff who have allegedly subjected Associate Professor Patnaik to stigmatic, retaliatory and punitive actions.
It is necessary to note the blatant violation of the West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences Staff Ethics and Code of Conduct (‘MCC’) insofar as the Vice Chancellor has endeavoured to abuse the power vested in him. The code of conduct requires a staff member to “Maintain absolute integrity and absolute devotion to duty, high ethical standards and honesty at all times.” It is evident that the Vice Chancellor’s actions in circumventing established procedures to quash the complaint against him, refusing to recuse from a committee meeting addressing the allegations against him, and making appointments without EC approval is a blatant violation of the MCC which cannot be sustained.
Considering that the meeting of the NUJS EC to decide the extension of the tenure of the Vice Chancellor is scheduled for 28th May 2024, severe and prompt consideration of the General Body’s demands is imperative to secure this institution’s future.
In light of the above, we make the following unconditional demands.
1. We demand immediate steps be taken to ensure that Associate Professor Patnaik is not further victimised or subjected to any harassment or hostility from faculty/non-faculty staff. We demand a thorough, unbiased investigation against the Vice Chancellor regarding allegations of sexual harassment and intimidation.
2. We demand the immediate suspension of the Vice Chancellor from his office and that he be prevented from undertaking any duties or responsibilities as the university's Vice Chancellor until his acquittal. We resolutely demand that he be disallowed from making executive decisions regarding the university and its functioning.
3. We demand that the minutes of the NUJS Executive Council meetings dated 27.11.2023 and 21.12.2023 be released immediately, along with an explanation as to why the EC failed to discuss the harassment complaint filed against its own chairman in these meetings. We note that the Vice Chancellor allegedly has already attempted to defer discussions about the complaint in the EC and refused to recuse himself from meetings regarding allegations against himself. In that, he has displayed his willingness to abuse the authority vested in him by the university.
4. We demand that the farcical and retaliatory fact-finding committee created by the Vice Chancellor against Associate Professor Patnaik be dismissed. We condemn the alleged actions of the Vice Chancellor and his close aides within the faculty for misusing the authority vested in the University’s administration to arm-twist and intimidate the victim and cause her aggravated suffering.
5. Finally, we resolutely demand that owing to a lack of confidence of the NUJS General Body towards the Vice Chancellor, coupled with the allegations discussed, no extension be granted to him for the position of Vice-Chancellor. We note that the Vice Chancellor has allegedly attempted to immunise himself against allegations surrounding inappropriate sexual conduct by abusing the authority vested in him as the Vice Chancellor and Chairman of the EC, and in doing so, has betrayed the trust placed in him as the head of an institution such as NUJS.
Given these considerations, we hereby wish to relay to your Hon'ble Lordship our collective decision to resolutely stand against the extension of the Vice Chancellor’s term at our institution. We also wish to relay our pain and disappointment with our institution for failing Associate Professor Patnaik so tremendously. We humbly pray to your Hon'ble Lordship to take note of the allegations of sexual harassment and institutional marginalisation and our just demands, which attempt to salvage not only the institutional reputation of NUJS but also the idea of a safe space for all students, victim-survivors and those from vulnerable communities in our university.
Thanking You,
On behalf of the General Body of the West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences (NUJS),
(Signature) President and Vice President,
Student Juridical Association.
This is different from other firms where you enter as an A0 and then become A1 in the very next year.