Hi, I am a very shy person, but I know how to do my job, I am trying to interact with the associates. I speak very little unless I am not close friends with someone. I can't directly say that I want a job or a call back, but I am putting my whole effort into the work, trying to seek feedback and improve on whatever I can. Do i stand a chance to get a call back?

SJA is a divided house. The Veep and her friends belonged to a faction, which lapped up the ticking time bomb sent on a platter by a certain teach. Ofc the Prez should have held her ground and not buckled under pressure. Now that the shit has hit the fan, the Veep is scotting and cooking up stories en route. The SJA has always been a divided house. However, it is for the Prez to marshall the troops.

It should have never been about NKCOut. Instead concentrate on how to revive, strengthen and make SJA truly independent. That itself is anti-establishment.

This may sound like rude or an unpopular opinion but, this is not something new. There has always been a preference sub-consciously in human minds for good looking or better looking people. It is kind of a hard truth that these things exist and are kind of unfair but that is the life. There is a reason all the makeup and skincare or maybe bodybuilding industries exist and have thrived since time immemorial in various forms.

However, this is not a ceiling which is unbreakable, this can be overcomed by the

I've given Mh cet exam and scored 98 percentile

And I'm really confused between GLC and ILS

I've heard that GLC has good placement and can intern throughout the year but really bad teaching staff

Which one should I join?

Please help me through this!

Please understand: if a rich kid like one of the Shroff children loses 50 lakhs in a day in stocks, it means nothing to them. But think about a young associate from a middle-class family in CAM or AZB, who put in 15 lakhs or so because he wants to do an LLM abroad and needs a windfall Well, what happens to him now? He's stuck in a debt trap and has to work at CAM/AZB for at least the next 5 years now. You may call him reckless for gambling like this, but the Finance Minister of the country herself advised it!

I can tell you that tons of law firm associates invested like this and are now suffering from shock and depression, in addition to work-related stress.

Generally the equity available starts at about 0.25% to 0.5% and will increase only depending on how much work the partner would bring in. The base pay is generally fixed for all partners. The bonus depends on the amount of billing and even if the equity is less, it can be substantial if the person is bringing a lot of work. Overall, the total compensation of an EP in a tier 1 starts at about 1.5 cr and goes up depending the above factor. From what I have heard the EPs at KCO Mumbai who head practice areas get north of 2.5 cr and people who have been there for quite sometime and bring in a lot of work get roughly 4-6 cr

I am about to get an offer from Tier 1 which has asked me for references they can call up.

I did not leave on good terms at a previous tier 1 that I was employed at. But during the course of interview with the partners, I did mention a few safe names from this workplace as I was asked about the people I had worked with.

The HR has now approached me asking for the names of my references in writing.

Would it be okay to skip this tier 1 and mention references from my earlier workplaces? Would this raise any suspicion?

Is it okay to mention a friend's name (same level as I) name from previous workplaces?

Will this law firm actually call up the references?

I am currently on a sem break of 4th-year end. I am highly confused about what to do next. Have always wanted to write the UPSC and this is the only correct time to start for it for 2025 attempt. I will also appear for CLAT PG and try to get a job via it(psu) else will do LLM. Now since the last few days, I am also interested in pursuing an LLM abroad via scholarship and getting a corp firm job through it either in India or in that city (UK/US). I am aware I cannot do all these things at once and hence am looking for a pragmatic solution to this. Pls guide! (i am in a state law univ)

I am currently on a sem break after my 4th year-end. I have so many options but cannot decide on the most suitable option to pursue at the moment.. So I want to appear for the upsc exam and also aiming to appear for clat pg for a psu job. While researching, I have also developed an interest in doing LLM from say UK/US and getting a corp law firm job here in india. All this requires hardwork, but I am willing to put in the work but cannot decide only what to do. Any suggestion would be helpful. (im a in state law cllg)

I am a SLS student (just got done with first year) and secured 6 GPA in the first semester and don't see my result going above 7.5 in the second. Although I have had a lot of extra-curriculars , nta's, moots, debates, have 5 publications and also 2 great internships, 1st in a Tier 2 law firm (through contacts) and the second under a bigshot lawyer at the SC. I have 4 years of law school left to get my shit together but how will this impact me ahead?

I'm from the batch of 2024 and neither I nor other KCo PPO holders from my NLU have been put through any of this — or been informed of the existence of any such thing. We're all going to the Bombay office tho, so maybe that's a Delhi office thing? Either way, I'm absolutely certain that noone is going to dump you/cancel your PPO regardless of whatever you do in a post-PPO assessment — that sounds too antithetical for KCo itself. Beyond that, hardly matters, no?

First year in a tier 1 after 7 years from a counsel practice; no savings but a very rich experience. Starting to save.

Everyone has their own journey, some may have crores saved with limited knowledge but a giant ego to show nothing for. Don’t compare yourself to a tier 1 kid who saved for 7 years.

Youre 100% right dont be phased by the downvotes. GNLU students seem a bit jobless honestly, why care so much about what random people on legally india say about your college? And whats the point of dragging NLUJ through the mud for no reason. Im.not even from NLUJ but it seems so mean spirited. Bad look for GNLU and its student body

Associates are typically full-time employees on a partnership track, handling a broad range of legal tasks and casework, with a structured career progression aimed at eventually becoming partners. They hold law degrees and are qualified to practice law. In contrast, consultants are often hired for their specialized expertise, which may not always be legal and can work on a project-based, advisory, or temporary basis. Their career path within the firm is less defined, and they may not be on a partnership track. While associates focus on general legal practice, consultants provide high-level, specialized advice.

He sounds very junior. How niche can you get early on? Of course you have happily assumed it is niche. Also that leaving is 'running away'.

If he lacks the control over his emotions that it takes to be her colleague, then he is going to create drama and make a fool out of himself in trying to lash out at her. It is extremely unprofessional.

He can't 'make her leave'. The idea is vindictive. This is all very filmy. If she cheated on him then he should certainly withdraw his friendship and warn any friends who want to date her in the future but that's all.

If he didn't have expectations then why is he here telling us what all he did for her? How it is relevant unless the implication is that she owes him something in return.

Yeah, we don't even know if there were formally dating or what the arrangement between them was. Cheating is hurtful and dishonest but they are not married.

Au contraire, I've been the cheatee not the cheater but unlike you, I am not deliberately a jerk. Egging someone on to hurt someone else because toxic masculinity is disgusting. Check your assumptions and try to be a better person. Oh and before you make snide remarks about people who were cheated on, it was great in the long run because it freed me from a bad relationship.

This is not 'running away'. It is giving himself space to heal instead of adding to the drama she started. Hurting her won't make him feel better.

I'll be joining SAM as an A0 soon, and wanted to know if they provided laptops to their associates.

Additionally are these laptops good, or do people prefer using Citrix on their personal laptops?

Please feel free to add info about other firms, in case in coming associates have the same question. Thanks!

Ps: Also, please recommendations for good windows laptops (ultrabooks) in the 80-90k range.

1. The guy is clearly not attaching any expectations to it. I don't see any reason to assume otherwise.

2.if he finds it difficult to be around her, why should he leave, why should he not make her leave, but telling everyone what she did? Is running away th solution? Also, what if he's into a super niche practice which is there in only that city and they are bound to cross paths?

3. Also I don't know why you assumed that he'll be bitter for not dating him, when he clearly mentioned that she cheated on him and treated him disrespectfully. But yes, i understand that doing this might make him feel like a bad person.

But leaving the firm or the city doesn't make sense and also it's not very easy for niche practice areas. As he mentioned, there will be a pay cut.

But yes, your perspective is well appreciated, just that it's full of false assumptions and probably personal biases.

Seems like you're in a deep dilemma my friend. Best wishes.

You sound like a good man. I hope you make the right choices. Vengeance might taste sweet, but it may cause you a lot of guilt and self hate.

But it'll not be immoral or unethical if you tell everyone the truth about what happened and what kind of person she is.

The decision is yours to make.

But you situation is really sad. Sending you hugs and wishes.

God bless kiddo.

Hey, I am a T3 NLU, first gen student. Despite my love for constituional law, human rights, Int Law (was a humanities student). I have come to the realisation (as most do) that there is neither much scope nor pay in these fields.

I really want to explore civil and commerical disputes (specifically litigation and arbitration).

I am in the initial years of my law school. We are yet to study CPC, Crpc etc. How should I go about learning about these fields, what internships, moots, publications to try for to build a CV. What does the job market look like ; chambers vs firms ? how to get recruited ?

For your sake, please drop the weight - exercise and eat right.

Fat people aren't just fat, they, more often than not, are frustrated/ angry and sad - because of low self-esteem/pride and poor response/ attitude of people toward them (relative to those who appear more presentable).

Pro-tip for women to fat or lean for their own good-

Finding your fitter self will surely take time. But in the meantime, wear Saris or Kurta and get your clothes stitched by a good tailor master (I can recommend good ones for Delhi and Mumbai). Avoid skirts or any other form of Western attire if you are “obese” (at least, for the time being). Don't be that person whose belly button is flashing at the word, between the spaces in your shirt. Stick to whites and lighter fabrics that breathe well. Saris hide excess weight like nothing else! Get them your saris/ kurtas stitched with enough margin inside for future alterations as you lose/ gain weight and look your better self!

If the Tarun Nangia - Mohit Saraf interview and Noida office tour is anything to go by, this office will prove to be yet another Saraf masterstroke! - https://tinyurl.com/363wze4c

That interview had everyone buzzing on LI -https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/359490-the-tarun-nangia-mohit-saraf-interview-for-newsx

I eagerly look forward to a Tarun Nangia - Mohit Saraf special for the Defence Colony litigation office. I could use the inspiration! Who doesnt need it!!? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hi, focus on learning and just work hard. I am a 3 year law graduate - got placed at a tier 2 through college and now at a tier 1. Don't focus too much on numbers or losing out. Everyone has their own trajectory. Sab sort out hojaayega in the end. Try to do internships, if possible and make sure your basics are clear.

Rahul Gandhi has officially said this now. Here's the truth though: it's an absolutely bogus conspiracy theory and Rahul should be ashamed of himself for platforming it. It is very much possible for an exit poll to go wrong by such a huge margin. If your sample size is skewed towards the educated middle class, you will obviously get a pro-BJP response. It was a genuine mistake.

If the boy wanted to do things for the girl out of love, then he should not have attached expectations to it. Yes, cheating can hurt but it is much worse in the long run to have a gf who is with you out of obligation.

The boy does not own the girl. If he finds it hard to be around her, he can find another job or a different city office. Anyone who can open doors for the girl can surely open doors for himself. If he can't, then maybe he is mistaken about why she got her PPO.

Law firms are full of betraying snakes. His colleagues will survive another one. The main thing to do is to avoid turning into a bitter jerk who tries to attack a junior professionally for not dating him personally. The impulse is human but carrying it out will make the boy someone he may not want to become. Leave the firm and maybe the city, baby boy.

Heard a rumor from a NALSAR student that the placements have decreased since the past 2 years and this year is the worst one especially for LLM students. According to him not even 50% LLM students are placed and the average salary is below 7LPA. Can anyone add to this or confirm this?

Addressing a press conference with senior Congress leaders, Gandhi claimed that common Indians “lost Rs 30 lakh crore in the stock market on June 4”. He asked three questions that the JPC must probe. “Why did the PM and HM give specific investment advice to the 5 crore families investing in the stock markets? Is it their job to give investment advice to the people? Why both the interviews were given to the same media house owned by the same business group, which is also under SEBI investigations for manipulating stock markets” and “what is the connection between the BJP, the fake exit pollsters, and the dubious foreign investors, who invested one day before the exit polls were announced and made huge profits, at the cost of 5 crore families?” he asked.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/congress-stock-markets-manipulated-exit-polls-rahul-9376248/

I am a 3rd year in a t1 NLU and am very passionate about civil and commercial litigation. I am confused regarding how to go about my career. Do I straight join a disputes team in a t1, learn a thing or two before stepping out or do I straight away plan on joining a senior after graduation? What are my other options? I want to maximise learning potential. Finances are not an issue for atleast 3-4 years post graduation.

Hello,

I am entering my final year at a tier 2 college. I have secured internships at Saraf and Singhania (both in Disputes team) for July and August. Despite having experience with good tier 2 and tier 3 firms, I am uncertain about receiving a ppo. I obtained these internships independently, without any references. Could anyone please advise me on what steps I should take next?

By quality of work:

SAM

Trilegal

AZB

By work life balance:

Axiom5

SAM

C&M

By exposure:

JSA

AZB

Poor work life balance:

AZB (carry laptops on vacations)

Trilegal (self-explanatory)

Not that good:

CAM

Winner: SAM. Shout nepotism all you want but the team has highest number of partners bcz they reward everyone for their efforts.

Don't do anything. Personal and professional lives should be kept different. If she indeed is a toxic person she'll get fired or humbled by a bigger toxic person soon especially in a t1 firm.

Better for the guys mental health to move on and let it go, personal grudges only ruin your mental health

Hi OP.

I went through a bitter breakup months after the death of my father. I decided to move away, seclude myself and overwork to keep me from grieving any of it.

Did it work? Yes. But I lost so many friends and a couple of years over it.

My only advice is - do what protects your mental peace and your interests. It is no longer 'our' interest so why should you settle for a paycut?

You can ask for a change in location if the firm has offices in multiple cities. This seems to be the easiest way to deal with the situation without active confrontation. Or else, cut the cancer right at the base.

To ease your mind, there are plenty of jobs out there. You are only inconveniencing her for a while. That, to me, seems to be a fair trade.

Ciao! May your heart heal soon and heal well :)