Academia is apolitical. Why should it be political? Let me explain what I mean before you assume away. I am firmly on the left, I have plenty of sympathy for palestinians. I have always voted for left wing candidates and support most left wing policies. But I dont think the congress party in india or the democrats in america or the chinese communist party all are correct on 100% of all policy matters. I have many left wing friends, my parents are communists and my boyfriend is a trade union lawyer. I dont think theyre all correct on 100% of their stances. Why would they be? Theyre human. Humans are fallible.

I also dont think the right wing is completely wrong on every single issue. I think they value things differently than I do and I think if we have a conversation with sufficient detail and specificity- most people would agree with each other on the details.

The only people I know who are completely sure theyre 100% infallible and always on the right side of history are all deeply religious and orthodox. And I tend not to get along with them much.

Academia should help us figure out what is true and what isnt. It cannot do so by becoming a bubble where only some opinions or people are allowed. To figure out what is true and what isnt we need to be able to study and research and think and discuss and debate all freely. Banning all jews from campus doesnt help that project, doing this kind of unthinking cancellation doesnt further the truth.

I dont think academia should be apolitical in that it shies away from political issues, but it should be apolitical ideologicallyand attitudinally. I think academia should be apolitical in that it doesnt assume one side is always right and other side is always wrong without evidence or reason. Academia is about improving scientific knowledge and temperament- its not about becoming indoctrinated into "rightthink" and punishing "wrongthink". I haven't said anything about this professor being fired or about these students being suspended- because - I support free speech. I might also avail myself of that freespeech in calling this kind of protest and petitioning empty unthinking ill considered posturing by people in an elite bubble.

If you live in a world where your side is never wrong- why even go to university? why teach there? join a political party and you might find more happy conformity there.

Shame on you doesnt mean much when its so obviously badly thought- whatever you hope I feel by saying that, I just dont. I would encourage you to move past the primal shaming rituals and try and develop your reasoning.

Hi, I am an upcoming A0 at a Boutique Corporate Law Firm in Bangalore. From the seniors, please let me know what I can do (tips and advice from personal experiences) to enhance my performance and competency to climb up the corporate ladder gradually and steadily. I plan on laterally shifting after 1-2 years.

This is just not true. The UN has said there is clear and convincing evidence that Hamas did indeed carry out a barbaric attack on October 7. the NYT and WAPO and BBC- have all reported that the attacks did indeed happen.

You can be sympathetic to palestinians without supporting a literal terror outfit. I am. Why you feel the need to defend Hamas is honestly beyond me. Its also a crazy mindpretzel to think one should blame israel for its citizens getting murdered and raped in broad daylight by Hamas. Do you get a murder/rape license when bad things have happened in the history of your people? cause im pretty sure every group and sub group in the world could use that license.

Hey everyone. I find myself in a very desperate situation right now. I graduated last year from a 3yr course and have been unemployed ever since. I had severe depression and was barely scraping through life. Now I want to flip my life around after finally getting out of this rut. What are the realistic career options for me at this stage? I have done only a few online legal writing internships at places like Jus Corpus and zero offline ones, so I know it's going to be incredibly hard for me to secure a proper job right off the bat. I am more than willing to read up and upskill. Do they hire graduates for legal trainee jobs anywhere? What about LPOs? Please advise.

All this to say, academia should adopt an academic attitude. Not jump to conclusions, research, reason, debate- do the thing students and professors are good at doing. Leave the authoritarianism to authoritarians. All this to say- if there is a genocide it certainly requires more careful treatment than slacktivism for likes and clicks, and screaming at random streets with zero theory of change.

I know its upsetting that the world doesnt agree with you on everything- You have to cope a little and learn that not everyone in the world agrees with you. Push through the anger and try and grow a little.
All this to say- shaming people is not actually an argument. It might give you a serotonin boost- but it doesnt actually make you a moral or virtuous person. religious groups have always shamed heretics- you sure you want to be like them?
Why are you so certain of your own virtue? Have you never been wrong about anything? why are you so fucking certain you think everyone else must be evil? people you know nothing about except their stance on one issue, and not even all of that stance- why are you so certain they must want to deny genocide? Did god come in your dreams and tell you? have you done on the ground reporting? have you studied this conflict all your life? can you even point to tel aviv on a map today?

Did your insta/ twitter tell you that youre on the "right side of history"? cause ill tell you right now- back in october i set my insta up so I saw palestinian content and I set twitter up to see israeli content, and I have never had less confidence in my knowledge of any conflict as much. The algorithm keeps you viewing one side of the story to keep you from clicking away. Get a clue. Be a person, dont be a fucking bot.

dude, even the UN- which is comprised of islamic countries that support palestine- even pramila patten, said there was clear and convincing evidence of rape and murder. Sorry, but Id rather trust her than some hamas funded journalist who could be keeping a hostage in his house while churning out propaganda.

Indias historical stance has been a two state solution. Its as much pro-palestinian as it is zionist. ( if all zionism is is supporting the existence of the israeli state). regardless, if you think we should only allow speakers on campus who agree with current indian foreign policy- that would be honestly ridiculous and self sabotaging. Our foreign policy isnt our religion. we can debate it and change it if we all disagree with it.

Did he prevent anyone from asking questions or from walking out? it turns out professors can say things you personally think are "fucked up" or "justifying apartheid". Many many people- most indians, would think the stuff P Baruah has been saying on campus is "fucked up" and "justifying terrorism". Turns out you dont have a monopoly on outrage and offence and neither do you have a personal phone line to god or whatever telling you your side is walking with the angels.

Many people on this specific thread have denied rape- I was offended and disturbed to see this. I dealt with my feelings. The thing about living in this country is you kinda have to deal with your feelings and outrage when someone says things you dont like. Its called free speech.

If your ideas cannot withstand the battle of free marketplace of ideas, if your ideas only thrive in silos and bubbles where everyone else thinks like you. If the first line of defence you have for your ideas is to shut down people who disagree- you might want to consider your ideas might not be as strong as you think.

If you disagree with a zionist- debate them or walk out. You have no right to demand that ideas you disagree with should be verboten and shouldnt be discussed in "open classrooms".

Yes, it does while applying to other places for internship but not for a PPO. While assessing you for a ppo, no cares about your past internships, moots, publications, etc.

For that matter, Covid batches did their internships online only. It depends on the work that you are getting in online internship.

this is so delusional. There are many people who wont be on board to govern kashmiri people without their consent and still think israel has a right to exist. I am one of them. I dont defend israel because I love colonialism- which is something I bet you couldnt even describe. I think israel has a right to exist because it exists, and because I have a different view of the history and because I think the impact of arguing that israel shouldnt exist because of strained barely evidence academic arguments is undoubtedly going to be awful.

the zionist man- which 90% of jews are- taught a course on intellectual property. I cannot imagine him deciding to turn his classroom into an open debate on all things israel until people forced him to defend himself.

If you only have free speech for ideas you agree with- you dont have free speech.

Generally, no. It might in the long run give you some salary advantages. In the short run, 1/ big firms have their own CS teams and 2/ firms generally pay you at fixed bands basis your experience.

Losing out on experience to get the CS degree (should you choose that route) might lead to a lesser package in fact.

If you just want to upskill for reputation, that's a better approach.

So I will be going in my fourth year and do not have a very meritorious CV (avg grades and no moots but some good publications) and have exhausted all my sources and look for some boutique law firms or even chambers where I can apply internship (without any contact), any suggestions?

NFSU is a single entity. But at present the campuses in Gandhinagar and Delhi are best known for cyberforensics. NFSU and DGGI have set up digital forensic labs in Gandhinagar, Delhi, Chennai, Kolkata, and Mumbai.

Here's the MHA press release: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1994273

So I belong to a tier 3 where at latest 10 per cent of the class went for masters abroad. Free factors to keep in mind:

1. Identify if you want to specialize or want a general LLM.. If you want to specialize, find colleges good for that. 2 friends went to Graduate Institute, Geneva because they wanted to specialize in certain subjects.

2. Keep your extra curricular strong. Person who got Rhodes from my class had good debating etc.

3. Look at previous year SoPs and see what they did. And how they expressed themselves.

4. If applying to Germany, you get bonus points if you learn German beforehand. I remember one of the DAAD committee member specifying how a candidate who learnt German through duolingo impressed the committee.

Same suggestion. If can't afford jindal, DU is the best option for LLB 3-year in your case. Choose CLC or Campus Law Center. That's very prestigious brand. Chief Justice of India is product of CLC. You can get corporate jobs if you work hard. NLU Odisha is a lot of fee with almost zero results. They are not able.to place their 5 year law graduates. How can they plac 3 year LLB??

If it is samvad mumbai you're interested in, then just check linkedin profiles of people over there, you'll get to know the attrition level. No one is in here for any longer than the bare minimum needed to switch to a T1. Other offices however do have a better culture and relatively lower attrition rates.

Following the Delhi and Mumbai threads, let's list down good lawyers (designated or otherwise) in Bengaluru who actively litigate and have good practices in criminal, civil, commercial, property, ipr, tax, Arbitration etc? How is it working with them, do they pay well and what are internships like with them?

In my opinion, the opportunities you can get in Delhi are tremendous. I know a few people who interned with me at SAM and Trilegal (Delhi offices) who were from the Faculty of Law, Delhi. Regarding the city being a non-issue, I used to think this when I got into NLUO, believing I could survive the city and focus on completing my 5 years. The city of Cuttack, while very pleasant and peaceful, lacks amenities. While surviving and tolerance levels are subjective topics, there will be times when you'll hate staying in your room, but you can't go to places to chill or relax as the auto drivers charge exorbitantly from NLUO to CDA, and there are no good places to stay. It sometimes takes a toll.

While I also agree about the litigation placement wave in FOL, firms will prefer a student from the 3-year law program at DU over NLUO. The biggest reason is that the course at NLUO started just recently, whereas DU has a good reputation and a strong alumni base in law firms, especially for the 3-year law course. There are people who are now partners or even managing partners at law firms. While opportunities provided by the Internship Committee are available for the 5-year course at NLUO, for the 3-year LLB, the opportunities are less or can be considered negligible in terms of internships. Firms are choosing 5 year LLB students over 3 Year so i believing your corporate dream can get hamper here (chances are very high).

Now that the new government is in place, the Ministry of Home Affairs has identified launching the National Forensics Mission as an immediate priority. Needless to mention, NFSU will be at the core of this, and will see its importance and impact expand even further.

https://theprint.in/politics/modern-weapons-for-capf-national-forensics-mission-swift-disposal-of-old-cases-bjp-manifesto/2040290/

Chandrachud has the time to attend random seminars and dozens of conference at Jindal, but not time for such an important issue 😡😡

Looks like a student protest is the only way these guys will take notice. Same thing happened at NLSIU, during the student body protests against the TLC mafia that wanted to scuttle Sudhir’s appointment.

So a protest MUST happen!!!

law is a subjective subject, harvard law is the best for american legal system, nls is best for indian legal system, IIT and MIT do maths which is objective, so IIT, AIIIMS, is given more respect in america too, NLS only some jurisprudence scholars will get respect cos its objective, but then see the importance of maths vs jurisprudence

No, not true. I'm a PA with a T1 who interviews and recruits candidates, so my opinion may hold some sway here. Long term internships at a T1 or a quasi T1 like Saraf will always outweigh multiple 1 month stints at other firms. When you sit in one place for a longer time, you're more likely to pick up the soft skills that a lot of A0s tend to be missing. They also tend to be better at picking up diligences, doc review and drafting faster, without exhibiting frustration due to lack of familiarity with working environment. Longer internships are also easier to convert to PPOs if you can make yourself indispensable to some overworked SA/PA out there.

Maybe with some 10th graders who haven't thought much, or some of those who've given up completely. Many JEE/NEET applicants dedicate many years into coaching/preparing for their entrances. I don't think a waste majority of them would even consider it, and rest would rather remain in the same situation than change into a different, risky situation, as they don't know much about CLAT due to investing their time in JEE/NEET and shortening their views alone.

So I'd say only a minor increase in applicants, upto 5k at most I'd say.

It's important to note that the protest at NLU Assam was not directed at Prof. Vijender Kumar. Students liked him as he helped and provided money to students for participating in international competitions, and formalized sports and cultural fest, moot court competitions, while being very student-friendly.

Prof. Vijender Kumar wasn't the target of the protest at NLU Assam. He greatly improved our facilities, gave us a new campus, brought in better faculty, and was very supportive of students. The call for application for the post of VC of MNLU Nagpur was called 3-4 months before the protest started in NLU Assam.

Prof. Vijender Kumar wasn't the target of the protest at NLU Assam. He greatly improved our facilities, gave us a new campus, brought in better faculty, and was very supportive of students. The call for applications for the post of VC MNLU Nagpur was done 3-4 months before the protest started in NLU Assam.

Every law firm and advocate requires freshers. So do not think that you dont add value. Keep applying to all the lawyers practicing in Bangalore and Karnataka High Court. You can find name of lawyers from the HC causelist and then get their phone numbers if they have website or through google or approach them over linkedin. Further, contact recruiters on LinkedIn. They will help you out surely. Keep applying and you will get an opportunity. Keep Trying. We all are rooting for you. I wish I could help you more with references but I have none in Bangalore.

Even apply to LPOs as money is your priority now. Keep the faith, Buddy

1)I'll be taking admission this year , I didn't get admission in NLS ,

2) I'll be getting admission in Jindal but fee would be a big obstacles that's why I am not considering Jindal .

3) I am not a b.tech so cannot go for iitk.

4) few friends of mine who are studying in du said that placement opportunities in corporate are not good , there is a litigation environment not a corporate one and faculty & admin are not that supportive for placement. ( These are the feedback from them . Pls rectify if something is not true.)

5) I got 97.6 percentile in mh cet law . I might not get GLC and ILS.

Have u personally seen placement scenario of du.

There are few friend of mine studying in faculty of law said that corporate placement scene is not good there and most of the students are not focused and rest focus on litigation.

And I enjoy the life at small city so I'll have no problem in Cuttack.

Hi, I’d like to disagree with you.

Blogs such as iPleaders are an information repository and there you don’t need in-depth analysis. It is not wrong to be an information repository, mind you. Infact, iPleaders has helped me in quickly learning about a topic / getting to know a overview of any topic.

However if you’re talking about ICL, that is known for its critical pieces. Herein, if we get descriptive pieces, then it defeats the purpose.

Would like to know other’s views on this.