Stop idolising people or proclaiming them to be the best and you won't have to see them getting trolled. Stop treating others with the supercilious and arrogant attitude that the original post manifested on more than occasion, ironically, and you will find out that majority of them will treat them with the respect that they deserve. The content of the post was nothing objectionable and contained many points that most of us agree to. However, the entitlement that the OP ended up displaying perhaps inadvertently has greatly diluted the message that he had been trying to

They know how much their peers are paying. Trilegal increased to 19.5 LPA. Despite this, no other law firm has responded with an increase. Probably bcz they're aware of Trilegal's reputation - trilegal eats people alive.

In-house counsel recruiters or even Big-4 firms don't pay as much as them.

Rookies succumb to the market landscape. It's no longer a glory to work at Amarchand Mangaldas or whatever. It was in 2015 bcz 15L was huge deal back then.

I do. This entire thread is extremely categorical. For instance, this thread only points out ‘NUJS NRI’ students. Secondly, it talks about ‘foreign llm’ students being pinched. Thirdly, the first point is extremely insulting. ‘Jealous Tier-2 guys who never foot inside NLS’- isn’t this statement extremely vitriolic?

IMHO, this is spot on. Do any of the mods disagree? We really shouldn't be publishing nonsense where people are just trolling or insulting others. What value does this add to the average reader, other than perhaps the lulz for trolls?

And to all commenters: let's try to be nicer and more intelligent and helpful with each other please.

yes. a lot just depends on connections. i had an exceptionally good CV (not saying this out of delusion, there are objective facts to suggest this) but it wasn't on merits that i was recruited, it was only through my connections and referrals. on top of that, if you aren't graduating from a college that have a lot of law firm partners, it's even harder because most of them just want to recruit their juniors (out of all the biases, this is by far the most irrational one ive ever come across). moreover, if you're a man, it's unlikely that a male partner will be interested in recruiting you.

no that's because they're privileged. double digit number of people have parents who have an established practice so.. I mean if my parents had such practice, I'd never even think about the toxicity of the corporate job market. Your words would've made sense had they even sat for the placements. They didn't even sit.

NLUJ has by far the best campus life. Jodhpur is an amazing city if you know how to enjoy it. It doesn’t have big city experiences like “clubbing” but the college parties are hella amazing and they have tons of it. There are people of every kind so find your right group. The campus is also beautiful and has amazing sports facilities as well - compared to most of the other nlus. And placements are very good as compared to NLIU. Mooting culture is also great. So NLUJ is better.

So I have the rank and science stream for it and I can get either through vacancy. I was primarily aiming for nujs only but then learnt that they have chosen to have separate placement cell for bsc kids while nliu would have same placement cell for both their programs. Also nujs bsc llb course is focused on forensics& criminology( not much scope )while nliu bsc is aimed at cybersecurity...which is a growing field. Now nliu fees is 11 lakh while nujs is 20. Even after all this i was kinda leaning towards nujs because of it's tier 1 corporate placements( my goal ) being the best always and it being located at heart of kolkata, however someone very recently told me that law firms r not looking positively at nujs bsc program so now I am very concerned about my inclination towards nujs and reconsidering. What should I do? Are law firms really looking down on nujs bsc program?

This is part of a new culture with little or no benefits. Some NLUs also invited some senior judges in the same way. These bigwigs, having served their tenure, seek some affiliation and recognition for their intellectual satisfaction. Some NLUs also want them to enhance their profiles. However, in essence, they would rarely be there to teach courses consistently, and people would soon forget about them. But it's okay, let's continue.

2024 batch recruitment pool was around 50 students. About 39 students got jobs. Total batch size was 80. Relatively higher no of students from 2024 batch are sitting for upsc, judiciary, mba - something that seems to be true for the Junior batches also. It's a very well rounded and diversified batch in terms of career paths that they've chosen. Weirdly enough, a record no of students from this batch are going for litigation chambers - figures for which NLUD doesn't count in these placement figures.

Ask them if they are willing to make some actual sacrifices. Get NALSAR admin to put out a declaration saying, like the Bangladesh passport says 'valid for travel to all countries except Israel', that their institution's transcripts will be 'valid for the purposes of recruitment, selection or admission or other purposes in all countries other than Israel, the United Kingdom and the United States'. Let's see how these arm-chair leftis like to see their BCL/RG/Ivy LLM chances go away forever and those shiny TC salary packages fly out the window for good.

At the same time, you should remember what Trump himself said: 'I don't kid'. The guy doesn't know how to make a joke. He knows how to tell lies, though, there's no getting away from that. As John Oliver said, in order to be ready to deal with the shit coming peoples' way, they should take Trump at his word when he says stuff like 'build a wall' etc. So there's no confirmation that, if he comes back in November, he won't try to implement this so-called 'policy'.

Rhodes v UPSC = Cannes Film Festival Awards v Filmfare Awards.

The number of people who follow the Filmfare Awards and watch its nominated movies is probably much higher when compared to Cannes. Salman Khan has far more fans than your average European art film actor. Everyone in India will be able to identify Ekta Kapoor but not the girl who won at Cannes this year. But we all know which of the two awards truly recognises excellence and is truly prestigious.

I've been saying it before, NLUD is just a paper tiger. Nothing more, nothing less. It's founding VC had the aura and presence, it has Delhi as the city & it's initial batches were the best. However over the last few years, it's performance has dropped, the govt doesn't care, and the student body is riding on the coattails of it's former success. Wait for DU & JNU New course to get their first batch out, and you'll see they're a better option with lesser fees.

People are busy arguing b/w NLUO and NLUD placement numbers, but the real thing we should be talking about is the package. The median placement package for the '24 batch was around 13 LPA. This is similar to the package being offered 10 years ago.

Law firms have not raised their compensation according to inflation. When will we stop the NLU dick-measuring contest and start talking about this?

If you bother to read the article, the NLUO placements include litigation chambers and policy places also. Basically, out of a batch of 180, only 40 got ANY job.

The NLUD figure is only for T1 and like jobs AFAIK. If you genuinely think that out of a batch of 80, only 35 people from a top law school will do something meaningful after college and the others will sit twiddling their thumbs, then you are deluded.

I have had multiple instances of non-nlu co-intern and associates behaving unnecessarily hostile and trying everything to find faults. I am not sure what's the need for this pull-down approach instead of improving one's own self.

It could be a one-off experience; however, would love to hear everyone's opinions.

If u get a job thesedays seems more impossible than possible due to the fol- reasons -

1. Too many grads competing for less jobs. At the end, either the employer will hire a candite who quotes a lower salary or a more experienced person for the same pay.

2. Getting a decent job outside of college placements is virtually impossible.

3. Lot of CS and CMA gradutes are taking up legal jobs since they are more qualified.

Heyy, can anyone help on how to get a job, I am a 2024 graduate and is no where near a job. I am a non-NLU graduate and have done assessment internship at T1 firm but didn't get any PPO. I have a good internships experience and a well built CV. But as I am applying people are responding with that they are not hiring freshers. I am not looking for a very good pay or something like that. I just want to start my career.

hello everyone! i am a second-year law student (three-year law program) and I haven't interned yet, thanks to the shittiest ever course schedule of my college that leaves no time to intern while being a dick about minimum attendance criteria. i have been interested in criminal law, both academically and professionally but i know academic inclination and hands-on experience are two completely different things. i really wish to begin working in criminal litigation but i do not know how to, where to, and with whom to intern. i am based in delhi ncr and any insights would be immensely helpful and greatly appreciated. please let me know places and people in law to apply to, where i can learn the basics, visit courts, research and draft, and just delve into criminal law. thank you so much!

Well, its a good thing that youve arrived at a point where you recognise flaws in your own writing. I struggled with it a fair bit at law school. Back in my day each course involved a term paper and the most you did for any of them was read as much as possible, summarise and weigh up each argument against the other and very very briefly weigh in and say- this might be something to consider. Obviously that held little interest to me.

Things changed when I joined the debating club because we had to argue almost every issue from all sides from first principles, it really forced me to read widely and to flex some brain muscles and think. And training myself in that first principles thinking helped me write more argumentative and less descriptive articles. I would suggest you read They Say I Say or Understanding Argument- both recommended by a professor of mine- and practice arguing with as many different people as possible so you can hone those skills.

The next turn for me was reading empirical legal literature, law and society work, law and humanities work, law and economics work- very few people in India know how to rigorously do those things and learning that was difficult but well worth it and it took me from just writing new arguments to providing new evidence and writing fairly impactful things. This last- you might find your niche somewhere else- maybe its law and philosophy for you or something else. It is worth being open minded and exploring all of it.

How does LI check that everything being written here is truth? People accuse their bosses for everything but rarely provide any evidence. Without any proof one cannot publish defamatory content about anyone. Bring some proof while you post it here on LI, and LI will never take it down.

For example, a certain post from similar a practice area was never taken down because they posted screenshot of the email.

I’d gladly name some but a certain small law firm has terrorized (bribed?) LI into censoring all posts against them.

Shame on you LI, every young lawyer being tortured at this firm should curse you people for the censorship.

Just know, if they really tried, these small fish lawyers cant do shit against you. Let us voice our traumatic experiences here ffs

BIGGG!! NALSARhas recently appointed Gopalkrishna Gandhi and P Sainath as Distinguished Professors.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/nalsar-university-designates-gopalkrishna-gandhi-and-p-sainath-as-distinguished-professors/articleshow/111123363.cms

Gopalkrishna Gandhi, is the grandson of Mahatma Gandhi, former governor of West Bengal

(2004-2009) and a seasoned diplomat, served as high commissioner for India in South Africa, Lesotho, and Sri Lanka, and as ambassador of India in Norway and Iceland.P Sainath, is a senior journalist renowned for his extensive rural reporting and advocacy through the People’s Archive of Rural India, Recipient of the Ramon Magsaysay Award for Journalism, Literature, and Creative Communication Arts.

Now no one can compete with NALSAR because the grandson of Gandhi JI, the father of nation himself is with NALSAR!