Why even publish these posts, until the concerned placement committee comes up with an official report? Why are you asking people to stop posting rather than ensure that those posts don't get past moderation? Isn't a human moderator looking through each post anymore before allowing to publish

That was still true till last year. If you wouldn't have submitted fake data last year, Nalsar would have been number 2. Not saying that being number 2 would have changed anything for Nalsar, as Nirf continues to be a bogus system. Similarly even if NLS becomes number 2 as per Nirf next year, nothing changes.

I graduated a little over two months ago and have been job hunting but with no success. Are there any firms which are still hiring freshers? It doesn't matter if they are T3 4 or even Z tier. It does not have to be as an associate but even any role like legal assistant or para legal or something similar would do. I am kinda desperate right now. Even LPO's are not paying any heed to my CV which is not the best by any means but certainly not thattt pathetic to not be worthy of even a rejection mail. I really don't know where to go from here. Any leads would be appreciated!!

Since when has this been brewing that ultimately led to the student representatives resigning? There are posters stating that there has been no accountability from the administration and VC for a while now. And the wifi discontinuation is the most immature and a terrible step from the officials. How did it go down to this position?

Hi everyone! We are noticing an increment of inaccurate information, especially after the initiation of day zeroes across several tier-1 national law universities. Kindly stop spreading inaccurate facts and figures. We noticed this discrepancy especially on certain threads related to WBNUJS and NLIU BHOPAL. The actual figures aren’t out yet. You can speculate, but bringing down a certain institution’s name by spamming false figures is seriously damaging. As far as the word goes, each and every tier-1 nlu including the above two mentioned are actively placing students. If there are certain issues you guys wanna talk about, do deliberate. LI encourages discussion, but not through misinformation! Regards.

This, too, is inaccurate. NLSIU has been ranked no. 1 in NIRF Law rankings since 2017. That would mean that the previous VC led it to this for only two years. This is Sudhir's fifth year, meaning the ranking is part of his legacy, and he (both under his rule and before it, as a student and a teacher there) is part of the NLSIU legacy.

I keep seeing this nonsense on LI. Prospective joinees, please don't get fooled. Saraf has a big book and a lot of money and truly enough work to drown the entire office and destroy our lives. They just hide their poor pay and incentives structure behind this excuse of less work in the market, uncertain economy etc.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/hindenburg-mocking-india-harish-salve-on-short-sellers-latest-claim-6328496#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

"In any other country people would have said Hindenburg report belongs to garbage bin... Hindenburg is trying to browbeat SEBI... There should be a tribunal for defamation in India.. Tomorrow, such bodies won't spare even judges," Mr Salve, a former Solicitor General told NDTV in an exclusive interview.

He also said it is "shameful" that a section of political leaders are taking Hindenburg seriously.

"Why do people get away with wild allegations? In india, we don't respect people's reputation... It is time we started taking Indian reputation seriously," he said, contending that Hindenburg is "mocking India".

Actually if you had worked hard it would have been much easier for you to get placed from NLUD (since by your own admission your peers aren't working hard or don't care for corp so you could've easily shone). But sure, go ahead and blame the college since you couldn't be one of the dozens placed.

- NLUD alum

Ever worked at a T1 firm? Your partner is probably from Symbi. Or are you in-house, because your GC will also be from Symbi. Fact remains, SLS has had equal number of T1 placements as compared to top NLUs for the last 3-4 years, if not more. You think a private uni can’t match some government run college standards?

First of all,

Take a step back pat yourself on your back and breathe. You will be fine.

Now, ask yourself what you truly want ? What area of law. If you have purpose and believe in it you can do it! Don’t give up. Just be sure and have clarity on what you want. Ask for internships more and more they can get converted to jobs depending on how you perform. Or more firms are hiring paralegals look into that as well.

Skills seekhle thode jaise excel, power bi, data visualization etc. Apna cv diverse rakh aur japanese karle JNU se. Fir japan chala ja.. average salary milegi but waha 1.5 jobs hai per person so umemployment ki problem solved. Take this answer seriously.. mai bhi yahi karne ki soch rha.

Timeline of events:

9th August - Shortlist announced. 30 students make the cut. (Good thing I couldn’t make it, as I feel bad for those who did) [Some students CLAIMED that there was an unpublished list where their names were present initially, but replaced with different names in the published list]

10th August - ‘Additional’ shortlist announced with 6 more students. 2 students very close to and below 7CGCPA.

12: August: Cut to GD day. 8 shortlisted of 36. Fair enough.

Then 3 more students who didn’t make it into the top 8, are called for the interview.

No explanations given as to why. No information was given about these 3 folks on the 3L recruitment WhatsApp group

13 August: out of these additional 3, 2 got the offer. And 2 candidates from the actual interview shortlist, received WAITLISTED offers.

Sad

PROS:

- Probably the only Harvard-educated CJI in history.

- Overruled his father on ADM Jabalpur.

- Possibly the only judge in India to have referred to theories of intersectional gender justice and Critical Race Theory in speeches and judgments, citing the works of Kimberle Crenshaw.

- In the Sabarimala case, struck down the practice of not allowing women of menstruating age as discriminatory.

- Launched a manual for courts on using gender-sensitive language. Passed an order acknowledging that men may get pregnant, hence "pregnant person" instead of "pregnant woman" is more appropriate.

- Upheld right to privacy

CONS:

- Not doing enough to improve legal education and addressing misgovernance at NLUs. Constantly criticising NLUs as elitist while frequently visiting Jindal.

- Not expediting various cases involving scams, both in BJP states and non-BJP states like West Bengal.

I was lucky enough to have come in contact with seniors in the profession who were kind and generous to guide me during my time as a student. Additionally I'm lucky enough to have a job which covers my bills, so I don't need to resort to such things for chindi cash.

Aur fir ethics bhi koi cheez hai bhai, no matter how bad things go, wouldn't resort to something like this to make money.

25 batch ,T2 NLU. Grades are above average, 0 pubs, and just one single T1 DR internship. no experience with any niche fields. I don't think I have any chances in terms of recruitment and sinking into a deep depression. Goal is to get into a DR team at a decent law firm with decent pay, work there for a while to build up a financial reserve, then move into regional litigation. Had LLM dreams (Singapore) but realistically, neither my grades nor my CV is good enough for it. have done a few moots, but nothing else.

Is it over? Can anyone help out with some advice?

That is a lie you may keep telling yourself, but the fact remains that NUJS has regularly and repeatedly produced legal professionals of all sorts throughout. That includes litigators, judges, policy researchers, academics, entrepreneurs, public servants and Rhodes scholars. The so-called real study of law that you boast of does not take place only at NLUD. Even in the last eleven years since NLUD has started, there is literally none of these fields other than UPSC where NUJS graduates have performed worse than NLUD graduates. Yet trolls like you will try to pass off otherwise, mostly because you are jealous of the university's reputation for corporate placements.

That's a preposterous ranking and an irresponsible statement to make on a platform used by students. NLIU's placements have not been at par with GNLU, much less NLUD. CAM and some Mumbai based firms pick up from GNLU and most Delhi firms hire in big numbers from NLUD. NLUD lost some ground to JGLS but continues to be a premier institute for placements. GNLU has done really well in the last 4-5 years since the new director took over. NLIU has continued to steadily sit within its comfort zone.

Hey all, hope you are doing well.

Before I start, I want to clarify that this is not to offend any student from any of the law institutes(Nlus or others) but rather a question I find myself asking as a first year student at a top 10 nlu. I was checking the placement reports of my institute and others also, and despite it being top 10 of country in placements, most probably, the reports are concerning. Only 10-20% of batch gets decent placements and 5-10% more in any job they can get. The condition is even worse in rest of lower NLUs with not even 5% of batch getting decent jobs. The 2024 placement reports of tier 1s are great though, I know not the best but good enough to consider law as a career and clat as an exam. Before proceeding further, I want to clarify that I am retaking clat with very good chances of getting a good tier 1 this time so it's not really for me entirely( "entirely" because I know a small percentage of even top nlus face this problem) and maybe it's worth mentioning also, to not attract criticism, that I like studying law but that's very very unrelated to this post. Now, especially for first generation lawyers, I wonder what the rest of batch at these NLUs or other law institutes do? I know judiciary, litigation, academia are the other options available in law aside from non law-related fields like upsc, mba or even startup. At most, 30-40% of any nlu's batch on average would be truly interested in these options( as in getting job was not in their priority at all, uninfluenced by their chances of getting one ). That leaves us with more than half the batch unplaced in top t2 nlus or jgls or slsp and even significantly more so in rest of lower NLUs and other law colleges. Now I will first talk about rest of career options and then people who only want jobs right out of college because of various reasons, many of which are not by choice. Firstly, in litigation, it's extremely tough to succeed without connections and same goes for getting promoted in judiciary field, the selection rate of which through pcs and later hjs exam is again extremely low. Then academia, that's a good option for people who want to continue their studies, research and teach later on but it's a option not taken by the most, and reasonably so in a country like India. Then there is upsc and mba left, which is open for everyone so the point of preparing for clat and then dedicating 5 years in law college, which can be gruelling, does not seem really attractive. Finally, I will conclude this post with the main question, that is, the people who want jobs but could not get decent placements( majority of t2 nlus and all of t3 nlus and other law schools), what do they do? Go for the other options mentioned above even if they don't want it and even though it's not really lucrative? Or is there a good way I have not become aware of yet that makes them not regret their law choice( a bold and exaggerated statement I know but just take the sense behind it ).

Thank you

Children from not so good law schools who only recieve rejection emails are their prime targets. The sectors at many of these colleges aren't really good but they give absolutely horrendous advice to their juniors. Till the time this disparity exists, I don't see these predators declining.

Hey all, hope you are doing well.

Before elaborating on my topic of concern, I want to clarify this is not to offend any student from any nlu but a rather question I find myself asking after seeing the placement report of t2 and t3 nlus. I am currently at the best t2 nlu in placement( one of hnlu and nluo)

Whatever your views on this saga, it is now time to cool down the temperature of this discussion. The best way to do this, I think, seems to be to repost one of the old classics (as history will surely remember it) in the Legally India commentary on NLSIU/Sudhir: an adaptation of the Marc Antony 'Friends, Romans, Countrymen' speech for the circumstances. Read and enjoy. Mods, publish this fast to reduce the heat of this discussion, before somebody ruptures a blood vessel. To the writer of this adaptation, you are a hero (I am not the writer of the adaptation, merely a humble philistine).

Friends, alumni, fellow LI readers, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Empathy, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Empathy. The noble Sudhir
Hath told you Empathy was fatal to academic standards:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Empathy answer’d it.
Here, under leave of Sudhir and the rest (administration)–
For Sudhir is an honourable man;
So are they all, all honourable men–
Come I to speak in Empathy’s funeral.
He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But Sudhir says he was evil;
And Sudhir is an honorable man.
He hath provided concessions to the affected, students and faculty alike,
Which provided them a space to heal and rest:
Did this in Empathy seem evil?
When that the vulnerable have cried, Empathy hath wept:
Wickedness should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet Sudhir says he was evil;
And Sudhir is an honorable man.
You all did see in other administrations
Where concessions were given to those affected by the pandemic,
Did this lead to a fall in academic standards?: is this evil?
But academic rigor is a noble pursuit,
And Sudhir is an honorable man.
I speak not to disprove what Sudhir spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love him once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you then, to mourn for him?
O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men and administrations have lost their reason. Bear with me;
My heart is in the coffin there with Empathy,
And I must pause till it come back to me.

(With due apologies to Shakespeare) (but also with due appreciation to the writer of this)

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/170611-what-is-happening-at-nls-sudhir-krishnaswamy-open-house

What appeared to be a thread discussing a student protest and its elements have now become a thread full of anonymous ad hominem attacks against individuals. This is completely unacceptable. LI is going to get yet another notice this way and then feature another apology with prominence. This is not constructive criticism, but plain trolling and mud -slinging.

Hi, I am as much as a well wisher of NLIU as you are. One thing about NLIU peeps I admire on LI is the fact that we go about our business, without posts over exaggerating what we do. The list provided above is from the message the Placement committee sent to all 5th Year students on Monday morning. If you would like further verification of this data, let me provide you some tidbits that you can confirm with your juniors:

a. The partners who turned up from CAM were both ex NLIU with the initials RC and BJ

b. SAM interviews were very technical

c. AZB, Saraf and Trilegal had GDs before shortlisting folks for the interviews

d. The Saraf partners were extremely rude and dismissive of answers to questions (this seems to be common across other institutes)

e. LKS interviewed for both IDT and Corporate Law, but only shortlisted students interested in IDT

Take the A0 salary. Judging by your experience, you will soon be irreplaceable and will be in a much better position to negotiate salary bumps. Partners will accelerate promotions if they see the worth in you.

Just get your foot in the door at this stage, then let your work speak for itself. I have seen it work for multiple people around me.

Here's why we shouldn't host the Olympics:

1. A girl from the Netherlands called India participated in the breaking competition. Indian media is desperately trying to link her to India and doing stories about her. Her parents are apparently from Suriname and she is dark skinned, so 300 years ago her ancestors were POSSIBLY Indian. THIS is literally the link they are using.

2. Neeraj Chopra spoke with Manu Bhaker and her mom for like 30 seconds. The whole media and Indian Twitter are claiming that it was to discuss a rishta. Now Manu's father has come out with a statement saying that it's rubbish and Manu is too young to get married.

3. An entitled wrestler gets legit disqualified after trying to pull off a gambit by participating in a lower weight category and failing. The Indian Opposition walks out of Parliament in protest, the Opposition offers her a Rajya Sabha seat, a state government gives Rs 4 crore (more than what bronze medalists have got) and she is hailed as a national hero. All because she happens to have protested against the ruling government and is from the politically influential Jat community.

So we don't care seriously about sports -- only cringe politics, stunts and gossip.

Cricket World Cup? Fine. Olympics? A BIG NO. In fact, even the Cricket World Cup was a shitshow, with a terrible pitch on offer in Ahmedabad.

Because rankings are not solely released based on placements, NIRF is a sham, they have parameters like perception and how do you objectively determine that? There is so much discrepancy in marks on the research parameter. it's not just about NLIU, many other NLUs deserve to be in the NIRF top 10, however random institutes are placed above them.