Why can't NLUs be inclusive? Every other university is. Why do you need to get them involved in the main politics of the university ? Just tell them to choose a CR, or two, And that CR becomes a honorary member of the body. They just represent the LLM batch. They just sit in meetings to be informed that so & so events are taking place in the university, or these are the problems that need to be addressed. Moreover, hear their problems, their worries. Just cause they aren't UG kids anymore doesn't mean they wouldn't have their own grievances against the administration. Also what's the role of the SBC ? To protect every students right.. Are they not students ? Are the also not living far away from their families ? Don't they get a voice to be heard ? Also cut down on the elitism, these same LLMs may have been part of their SBCs, the may also have immense experience on how to handle certain things, learn from them, take their advice. It's only in NLUs which has this divide & rule policy created by students. In the end, the administration wins !

Why not I give you a better idea, that I gave a years ago, and still was shot down by the stupid UG kids cause "we alumni, they not alumni. Elitism. Entitled. blah blah blah..." Keep the core student body, especially the major post for LLB students since they have to remain longer in the university. Whereas, provide a honorary post to the masters student, and an advisory post to the PhDs, if they want. Just include one or two representatives from the batch. Simple. Why do you need to have elections for them ? Why do you need them to participate? Just have their CR be the ex-officio honorary member of the body. They represent their batch, that's it. What's happening in campus is relayed to them, and if they're facing any problems that can also be addressed by the body. Simple as that.

I'm so glad that my life is so much better studying in faculty of law. I don't have to pay an exorbitant amount of money, classes are only for a few hours, can practice in any court almost every single day, don't have to wait for vacations, the study material is provided, don't have to rely on professors with zero experience, don't have to get involved in all this BS politics, can easily hang out with the masters and PhD students without any remorse, can sit & learn from all depts in DU, plus will probably get a better option than being a corp slave. And my degree is from a central university. Lol.

Lol. How long did it take for you to realise that NLUs are nothing but glorified state universities? Imagine paying lakhs to be drowned by debt and then forced to be a corporate paper pusher just to repay that debt and still be treated as a nobody in the real legal world of litigators and judges. Cry me a river

1. depends on what you want to do after LLM.

2. LLM will do nothing to get you a legal job in the UK, unless you have previous work exp in India or other jurisdictions and you already have secured some kind of work placement thing beforehand, less than 0.5% LLM students get job in the uk legal sector post llm.

3. again, what do you want to do in India?

4. check out their website for tuition. food and acco will cost £1.2k pm, so about £15k pa (does not include travel etc.)

ucl is unliley to consider unless you get 65%, however you can mention that you have topped your cohort and spin a good story in sop

durham will take you, edinburgh most likely will also take you

apply to qmul + soas for back up (they will take anyone above 60%) if you want to stay in london

Try going to any of the computer repair shops at Nehru Place, Delhi. They will also arrange for pickup and drop from your place, at a nominal cost. My Macbook Air of five years broke down last year and I got it done for 1/3rd of the price that Apple charges, and it's still in fine condition.

Going by the body language in the published video... I don't think CJI invited the PM; it was more of a self-invitation, and filming it was surely MODI's idea, which I don't think CJI would even be aware of. MODI achieved what he wanted to do to cast the doubt on the judiciary.

A useful article discussing examples from before most of us were born.

https://www.news18.com/opinion/those-attacking-modi-and-chandrachud-must-search-their-own-conscience-9050047.html

ICL from my experience rejects you within a week (honestly a good thing) and NLSBLR depending on the examinations in NLS and other variables turns around fairly quickly, not more than a month, however, they love giving suggestions, so the entire process could span a couple months.

This is the problem. Undeserving candidates like you act so desperate and act like Tier 1 jobs are some sacred thing and Tier 1 partners are gods.

Deserving candidates who actually work these jobs for more than a month know how shitty it can be, but because desperate folks like you exist the partners always think they are gods and that we are disposable.

Then when we leave they struggle to replace us and put some small town hick like you at the job, you fail miserably, then they hike the pay to get back deserving candidates, and the cycle of misery repeats.

Hey pokie pps out there, I've a doubt.

That, if I text someone on LinkedIn, who have done internship in "X" firm. Asking about how did you applied and the procedure.

Do they mind it? if I ask them to handover me the email address for application, is it odd? Or awkward?

I am a law student in a newly established NLU. If I am bright enough and have the right connections I'll be able to get into a tier 1 law firm. But folks there will mostly be from tier 1 NLUs. Will I have to face discrimination at the hands of my employers and colleagues due to the fact that I don't come from a tier 1 NLU?

Hello everyone,

I'm writing this opinion just to get justification, whether my decision is correct...

So, I'm a 3rd Year student at a mid tier NLU. And till now I've done 2 boutique law firm internships and done 8 paper presentations, along with some publications here n there, and some participations in Moots and ADRs conducted by Tier 1 law firms and NLUs. So, in toto I've a very poor CV.

I'm mailing 120 firms, every month for internship. But only 5 replies out of which 4 rejects.

Basically, I'm so much done with all of it. I have 0 connections.

There's a twist, that Judicial services is my passion and I wann do that only at the end of the day. But, the peer pressure at law school is making me to intern.

Whenever internship break comes, on the back of mind, I always have this idea that I should prepare in these "holidays" by going to home.

All of this is so stressful. What to do, I'm so confused.

Bcz, sometimes, I feel that I wouldn't be able to survive in Law firms. If this is the case with me, then why should I even go for it, and when I don't wann go to that path, why to even intern there.

Am I going right way? Is this how I should approach?

I'll be really grateful, if you can help me out.

If you watch the video, this is exactly how the hearings have gone so far:

KS: “Milord, the West Bengal government is doing its level best.”

MG: [nodding] “Best.”

KS: “Milord, there is a lot of fake news being spread.”

MG: [nodding] “Spread.”

KS: “Milord, we have followed all protocols to the letter.”

MG: [nodding] “Letter.”

Not good optics for the Indian legal profession when even at age 50, with a lot of accolades and prestigious degrees, and with SA status, and with family pedigree, one is still considered junior and must play second fiddle to a 75-year old. It means that you need to wait till you are at least 60 years old to be taken seriously.

Why will people take up litigation as a career of this is the state of affairs even for privileged people from influential families???

Afaik

1. AZB Takes Paralegals

2. Crawford Bayley takes Long Term Assessment Interns.

Try doing some research as to who the partner is and mail them your application. But you are likely to get it only if you have previous experience. Also I recommend not spamming them with emails. These partners are very proactive, if they like you you'll get a call within a week or two if you don't take the hint. All the best!

I find your comment hard to believe. PAs earn 1 cr a year, or very close to that. So why will they ride Ubers and not own cars? Even if they may not spend on a Merc, they can surely at least afford a sub 10 lakh car?? I have never heard of an SA or PA not owning a car. I’m sorry to say this, but I don’t know if you actually work in a firm.

People in Mumbai are fine with Uber, but in Delhi if you don’t drive a BMW or Mercedes you are not even considered human! A Delhi girl once told me that she doesn’t like Audi as it’s “wannabe” and for people who can’t afford a BMW or Merc, and she would never date someone who drives an Audi. 😳

My own sense is that I dont really mind a judge of the court going to formal events where there might be members of the executive or the legislature as long as such an event is public and there are a number of people there.
I dont think its a good idea for any judge anywhere to invite a member of the executive or the legislature into his own home. Especially to do something as intimate as eat/ worship together.

Sorry for the incomplete post. I wanted to write that for that theory to be credible, NLSIU should have consisted of majority students from Karnataka, NALSAR from Telengana etc. The students don't imbibe the culture of the state where the law school is located to any appreciable extent.

Hey,

Honestly try not to take it to heart. I failed in my 5th sem as well because of attendance issues owing to illness.

I'm in my 7th sem now, and I have an upcoming callback internship w a T1.

Firms judge you based on your performance during the internship, your personality and whether you gel w the team, and your willingness to learn during your tenure there.

You'll probably face a lot of questions asking why you failed but they'll understand when you explain yourself. They're all (mostly) humans after all.

Keep your head up and work hard.

Hope I was able to help you. All the best!!

The man who built the reputation has left. Culture has taken a U-turn. It has become a dumping ground for work.

Hours are crazy. Pay is peanuts. The seniors at PA and above level are tuff to work with. The partners won’t listen to you and will treat your like machine. There is no reason why you should join AZ or CAM, which has the same culture with atleast better pay.

Because they're killing internships, critical thinking, initiatives, ability to manage events, student leadership. In a few years, you'd get a student who was forced to become an academician but has half baked knowledge, cannot dwell in social gatherings because every social activity was killed in Kathajodi. They don't care about students getting jobs, they want to assert authority. Extra internship breaks and relaxations are targeted. So on and so forth. Dot by dot worst administration one of the fastest growing NLUs could've been cursed with.

Hello,

I am a double graduate from DU (Pol Science Hons., North Campus College) and have done my LLB from a tier 2 college (NOT DU). Although I am a topper of my LLB course, my percentage is 62.70. I wish to apply to UCL/Durham/Edinburgh for LLM but what chances do I have?

The Twist:

1. I have done some wonderful internships, including AGI and SAMCO.

2. I have two publications

3. I have done Social Service

4. I am the first Ranker of my class

P.S- I had to pursue LLB from tier 2 college due to a personal mis hap that can be explained :)

I am applying for 2025 fall intake, the application opens in 20 days. Very Scared!

Some advices would be very very helpful :)

Thanks so much!

Say no politely. she will then react. Get a witness - with a camera. keep saying no politely. Later show video to your boss / bar association - ask them for guidance.

The reaction to your no will determine escalation.

Yes. You are dealing with a bully. But you will be dealing with these types for a while. Kudos for recognising. However, unlike jail - you ain't anyone's bizytach. So please use mind while dealing with this moron.

An update on the situation: Panic was created by one more incompetent move of the VC Sri Krishna Deva Rao when he chose to say that the student bar council and the SBC constitution of the LLB batches has been "disbanded" and elections will be on hold till the administration itself decides a new 'just' constitution . This led to the meeting of all the LLB students in which (apart from a few politically motivated individuals and remarks) it was decided to protest against the Vice chancellor's statement. A protest was held in front of the VC office and meeting hall inside of which a faculty meeting was taking place. The main concerns were that the administration cannot take such a drastic step of disbanding the constitution and creating a new constitution for the students and that how will day to day tasks be handled if the SBC is indefinitely suspended. Few of the faculty and eventually the VC came out and did course correction by recognising that they had made "the wrong choice of words" and eventually another email was sent from the Vice Chancellor's ID that the SBC is alive but the constitution needs changes. Firstly, this is just one of the many incidents which is a result of the sheer foolishness and complacency of the new administration headed by Sri Krishna Deva Rao. He just seems to be out of touch of the needs of students on almost every front. While he is sensitive and takes the right decision when pushed adequately, but he is too meek and hard-headed to know by himself what are the issues and creating a vision to address long-term issues. If someone on this platform is in touch with him, please tell him that if NALSAR has to maintain its reputation he has to have a vision for its growth and for that to happen he needs to know atleast the mundane issues students are facing! Just go and talk to the students for once please! Secondly, it is again a re-emphasis on the fact that how NLUs in general are out of touch from the practices of academia of the most advanced institutions across the world and are in hands of people who don't know how to handle a multi-cultural crowd with highly ambitious people. This brings us again to the very idea of NLUs being almost irrelevant state-run universities with small-sized campuses and miniature budgets. It won't be wrong to say that NLUs are the forgotten children of each state government and the Union Government. A serious overhaul is needed to improve the situation. This should begin with drastically increasing the budgets of each and every NLU so that they can atleast have manageable infrastructure and decent faculty and not company secretaries with fraud PHDs teaching company law to future corporate lawyers. If this happens, then the administration won't need to resort to uncomfortable solution of creating new non-law departments for just increasing revenue. In all of the NLUs it is unsustainable from infrastructure and quality of education point of view. I hope some important people read this thread and decide to atleast talk about this amongst themselves.

Move to GC or disputes, you have two options either wait till a year and then switch or start applying now. In my opinion do complete atleast 6 months preferably 1 year and then rapidly start applying to gc teams. Trust me it is highly unlikely that experience will be discounted at A0-A2 levels considering it comes under broad domain of corporate. However trust me taking a discount too won't matter in the long run of scheme if you are hating this practice area now......

I can give you the Delhi scene:

1. Nepo lawyers with rich dads: Regular BMW or Merc as graduation present. Maybach as marriage present. Then it keeps getting better: a collection of Lamborghinis, Bugattis, Aston Martins, a few vintage cars..maybe a private jet and yacht.

2. Regular lawyers with regular dads: Alto/Celerio at age 25. Swift at age 30. Honda City at age 35. BMW/Merc/Audi/Jag at age 40-50, continues till age 50-60. At 60, you may wish to reward yourself with a Maybach, or spend on other things instead. Or even add to your retirement corpus.

3. Poor lawyers with poor dads: My condolences.

Guysss, what the wrong with you all. Everytime i visit LI, there is someone ranting over NLU, CLAT, CAPITAL MARKETS, B&F, clerical work, salary etc etc.

Let us just make this platform a source to help people and give them a direction but now a days, people just vehemently criticizes everything despite being continuously working there. Get off from this mentality and either become efficient & hardworking or leave and join practice area which offers you 16+ CTC, WLB, chill environment, easy partners, less work, 9-5 job.

For freshers, guys no one will give you 16+ lac for free. Kaam karwayenge and jyada karwayenge, isliye it is totally upto you whether are you IN for it. But for gods sake, ignore these comments of richie rich elite associates who are born with a silver spoon, fed by rich parents and therefore now crying in there jobs.

Hi everyone,

I am considering pursuing an LLM from the United Kingdom, particularly from King's College London, and I would greatly appreciate your input. My main questions are:

1. Is it worth doing an LLM from the UK, especially from King's College London?

2. What are the career prospects like after completing an LLM there? I've heard that the job market in London is quite competitive, so I'd love to hear your experiences or insights on this.

3. Alternatively, is it worth pursuing an LLM at King's and then returning to India for career opportunities?

4. Lastly, can someone provide an estimate of the total cost, including tuition, food, and accommodation, for the LLM program at King's?

Your thoughts and advice would be incredibly helpful! Thank you in advance for your insights.

Strange that the moderator censored my comments quoting secular lawyers and politicians, but reposting again:

Indira Jaising: Chief Justice of India has compromised the separation of powers between the Executive and Judiciary. Lost all confidence in the independence of the CJI . The SCBA must condemn this publicly displayed compromise of Independence of the CJI from the Executive

https://x.com/IJaising/status/1833912829075947777

Kapil Sibal: "The Court is deciding, day in and day out, issues relating to the Executive's actions in the highest court of the country. With this kind of viral clip circulated, then it may have implications, which are not fair to the individuals concerned and institutionally, they cause harm."

"Once you do this, what message do you send to those in the High Courts and judiciary functioning at various levels in the country. They also look upon these thing. Therefore, that sends a signal which is also unfortunate."

https://www.livelaw.in/amp/top-stories/pms-visit-to-cjis-residence-should-have-been-avoided-senior-advocate-kapil-sibal-269424

Sanjay Raut: "Our case is pending before Chandrachud Sahib, and we have doubts about its fairness,"

Since the Prime Minister, who is a party in our case, met the Chief Justice at his home, the Chief Justice should recuse himself from this case. Will CJI Chandrachud be able to give us justice in such a situation?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/sena-vs-sena-case-pending-cji-should-recuse-himself-sanjay-raut-raises-fairness-doubts-after-pm-modi-cji-chandrachud-meet/amp_articleshow/113279605.cms

Save karke kaha jaaye- here the question is about Job. For a middle class people, job milna bhe bade baat hai, don't you think not everything will be shiny. You have to compromise on some part.

Dude, be determined and if you are hardworking enough then CM can be maintained with your personal life. But agar apne baap ke paiso par palne ke aadat the and just job lag gaye phir zaroor CM kya all practice areas are tough and wahe log yaha LI par aakar comments karte hai.

Dude, why are you not leaving then? Ek taraf job continue kiye ho and doosre taraf yaha RR karne aa jaate ho, this is DOGLAPAN. Agar itna he practice area pasand nhe tha phir aaye kyo, job bhe karne hai paise bhe chahiye hai and yaha roona bhe hai. Just keep aside this bullshit dude and resign. NOBODY FORCED YOU TO JOIN CM

I have never read something more depressing, and as a general candidate student, i never realised something like this also goes on in the mind of people who came via reservation. you got reservation because you and your family was systemically oppressed for centuries, and you don't have to feel bad for utilizing it. this is an extremely scary state of mind to be in, and I cannot even imagine being you for you second. i hope you find peace, and also success that you're looking for.

It seems reasonable for students not in the five year program to have some representation so they might also have collective dialogue with the administration. It also seems reasonable that the five year program students do not want to cede positions in their student body committee to folks who might not be around as long and might not face the long term impact of administrative actions. Why does nalsar need to have only one SBC ? Why can it not have multiple SBCs - one for undergraduate students and one for graduate students ? Surely the concerns of both those groups would naturally be different ? Don’t these programmes already have different RCCs ?

I have very good internship experience in tax and I was keen on working at ELP. In july they uploaded a LinkedIn job for an IDT Advisory associate and i applied for it. NEVER HEARD BACK. Sent two follow up emails and no response to either. Does anyone know how can I get in touch with the HR? Thank you.