I have come to notice that it is almost always people from extremely well off backgrounds who enter or try to enter corp law. A couple months ago, when I was interning at a T1, one of my co-interns was the son of a VP of a pretty successful company, he still wanted to slog off in a law firm despite the fact that he could be literally doing anything else. The guy had money that is beyond reach for anyone already, hell he used to arrive to the office in a luxury sedan that is dad got for him. I just don't understand why someone who is already so well off, with the luxury to be doing anything else that they love be willing to slog off infront of a computer screen for 12-13 hours a day.

Lololololololo...kiddos to her, but it's a personal glory. Many have got it before. Many will get it later. Does it do anything for the institute? For the judiciary and litigation ? For the country ? No. Does NLUs become important ? No. They remain state universities that need to beg in front of state govts for basic amenities.

It is an incredible achievement for vibha certainly but the programme is still quite shit. You yourself know how the average from your batch and your juniors have been performing. But yes, kudos to Sudhir. Handpicking students for the first batch through personal interviews certainly helped in getting the right people in. Now that it has stopped, even you know the standard of your junior batches.

And why shall I overlook tech salaries or FAANG salaries in your opinion? Getting into these companies and the T1s entails a similar level of probability and effort and yet at least there is a better WLB in the former than the letter and still, the difference is huge. Saying that look at other people's pay in the profession is such a fallacious argument. Are you such short-sighted to be able to see that all of this works like a cartel and pick any firm whatsoever and it reflects a lala-type business model and etiquette in itself. The ass burn SILF got from the notification allowing foreign law firms in India even though subject to high level of restriction is an evidence that how we all are exploited in this field and only the previously established ones have power polarised to themselves. Like we have got the same workload as that of Merchant Bankers but a pay of plumber when it comes down to the value of time we invest. I will say just get over the fear of feeling inferior if you see the whole wide picture and accept the facts as they are, to at least not be a roadblock to any change which the upcoming generation might be willing to bring in.

ICUL Funds team is paying exorbitant amounts forget just matching the payouts of others. Also the counsel did not move alone but moved with other team members too. Several junior to mid senior fund members have shifted from Trilegal to ICUL Funds team over past couple of years and all are continuing there so pays must have been taken good care of.

I've 1 PQE in White Collar Crime litigation with strong grades from a Tier 3 NLU. I'm considering transitioning into law firms and am exploring the best approach to make the switch. Could anyone share advice on positioning my experience effectively for corporate/transactional roles or if any specific firms are receptive to litigation backgrounds in similar cases?

Not really, you will get a draft along with an earlier sample to work on. Then your SA / PA will give comments while reviewing. Atleast thats I how I learnt. Then when the draft goes to the Partner, he makes further edits / gives comments which you can then note.

- T1 Disputes A2

I am from a state government university law college which doesn't even come under decent college, and is not even known anywhere, the only plus point I consider is, it is in the city of high court of our state. Now, I had given clat was getting tier 3 nlus, and private colleges, same with mh-cet was getting pravin gandhi at best, and these are not considered that good for placement, so I thought I would stay here and do better. But since 1st year was partial drop I don't have good grades, and now I am in second year, and I still havent done anything I thought I would. I have done 1 internship normally, one online with ngo, and a content writing for legal writing, which is more than most ppl in my class, but I don't want to compare myself with anyone around in my university (other than marks), as most ppl are not interested in much of anything other than getting a law degree. Writing papers, or articles seems daunting, my peers don't seem to have much interest in moot courts or such competitions, and internships without any connections seems impossible. now all this comes off as very cry baby, and maybe till now it is. But I would really like to improve my situation, so any thoughts on how to do at least at par, and have doable skills that help for future placement, or just for getting better internships.

The Leaflet is "owned" by IJS and Co. Why didn't a "neutral" outlet carry the piece? And will she now blame her equations with DYC for why RG Kar case got sunk? As with Justice SS case, the moment DYC did suo moto everyone knew that RG Kar case has been "managed". Entry of IJS and KN from the "doctor side" was the icing on the cake.

Candidates are not eligible to appear for JEE Advanced 2025 if they have been admitted to (allotted a seat) any Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) under an academic program listed in the Joint Seat Allocation Authority (JoSAA) Business Rules of 2024 or earlier, regardless of whether they continued the program or accepted an IIT seat through "online" reporting or at a "reporting center." This applies even if their admission was later canceled for any reason.

https://www.dnaindia.com/education/report-jee-advanced-2025-bad-news-for-those-who-skip-admission-in-iit-will-not-be-able-to-give-the-exam-because-3117214

Should the same policy be extended to NLUs and CLAT as well? This will reduce the number of droppers who waste seats.

Vindicates Sudhir’s decision to start a 3 year LLB. This programme is got off to a great start and will be another jewel in NLSIU’s crown. Other NLUs are cooked because the admin are not investing in improving the college and faculty are leaving for NLSIU and Jindal.

Wake up call for other NLUs!!!

I don't know if the VC lobbied, but even if he did so what?? Wouldn't you want your VC to similar lobby for scholarships and funding for students?? I say well done to the student and well done to the VC and alumni if they worked behind the scenes. We need more Sudhirs in other NLUs, instead of rotten, corrupt and lethargic people from the TLC mafia.

I don't know who she is, but I just hope and pray that she specialises in commercial law and is not ideologically left. Because too many Rhodes scholars are ideologically left and specialising in human rights. The scholarship was never meant to favour one ideology over other. If an arch right-wing person like Viktor Orban can be awarded a Soros fellowship solely on the basis of grades, then surely an Indian student with libertarian or conservative leanings should also be awarded the Rhodes scholarship, looking solely at grades? Barring Arghya Sengupta and JGLS VC C Rajkumar, I can hardly think of any non-left people awarded the Rhodes.

It's also really unfair to prioritise one branch of law over others, especially given that commercial law subjects are really difficult and involve hard law and lots of technical analysis.

You're right. Just that you need to be sure of your basic economics. You're at a starting stage and can actually experiment with the things, with your financial cushion. But do make sure that you don't burn any bridges with the profession. You may end up coming back in any capacity.

Actually T1 lawyers are paid way above the average. If you only look at FAANG or tech salaries, you'll always feel underpaid. Sometimes looks at earnings of others in legal profession also and you'll realise how better you're paid. Don't even suggest about stagnant starting salaries. It's also to do with margins and rates. And yeah, economic reality - Associates execute, for which you get paid for execution. At each level, responsibility rises and for which comp rises. If you think you're underpaid, just go for other options you've instead of cribbing. Really will make you much happier if you don't crib and just do it.

Hi. Is it a good plan to work as a sarkari vakeel for first 10 to 15 years of practice and then shift to private practise, if one is financially constrained and too add to that is the meagre pay in litigation. Would be a good plan to work as a sarkari vakeel in district courts and then jump to HC as an independent counsel?

Any suggestions?

Credit to Sudhir and efforts by alumni. For 8 years the Rhodes committee denied NLSIU in the interests of diversity and affirmative action in favour of other NLUs. Sudhir and alumni requested them to return to business as usual. Looking forward to another two decades of dominance.

Just keep a laser focus on studies (when in college) and work (when in internship). I can understand that it's difficult. Have gone through it myself. But you can pull through it with focus on right things. Consider yourself lucky since you aren't at home. I was at home when I had my issues. And yeah, remember one thing, for a talent, there would always be a place. May be slightly late, but surely there would be. You're in a T1 NLU, so I assume some level of basic intelligence and capability. Just put it to use, ignore distractions and despair and you'll be through. After five years, you'll probably be reminiscing about this and patting yourself on back at how much you grew from this phase.

- JSA is 13L (fixed) + 3L (variabl) + 3L bill share (can vary a lot with teams)

- Saraf is 15L (fixed) + 2L (variable) in general but can differ as mentioned

- Bombay Law Chambers is 10L (fixed) + 2L (variable)

- Resolut Partners is 13L (fixed) + 1L (variable)

Rest everything seems accurate

Hi, will be clearing some air.

1. 'Compassionate'? Hmmmmm.

2. The DP team you are taking of is very decently paid, and most decent teams in KCO Kolkata get almost the same, if not exactly the same, as their counterparts get.

3. Team structure? Too young, don't bother.

So I’m asking you a simple question - why not consider this an opportunity for more and better learning?

None of it is integral to being a good lawyer. Classes aren’t integral to being a good lawyer- many good lawyers in this country have degrees from universities they barely attended. Legal education at one point was just interning with a lawyer long enough until you learnt the ropes. You are free to pursue that path if you like- it’s just not what the nls promise is.

So , I’ll ask again - why are tutorials not an opportunity to get more out of law school ?

Done and done baby boy. My best bosses and allies were women. I also had some really kind male mentors and a couple of aggressive women but no woman ever went as far with bad behaviour as the men with their fragile egos and shouting and screaming. But please feel free to be prejudiced. Those awesome women don't really need to deal with people like you.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s a female dominated team or male dominated team. Important is their mentality and attitude towards all genders and whether they respect your family life or personal life or not. I work in a team dominated by male partners and they don’t even allow women to take a menstrual leave stating that if you get cramps then stay at home for forever. Stay away from such desi uncles. Their female second in command doesn’t see this as a problem and has zero personal life and is in office 24/7 and makes sure the team does that too. She has no respect for your personal life since she has none herself. Stay away from such female seniors too who will ruin not only their own life but also yours just to impress the superior bosses. Gender doesn’t matter the work culture does.

I need help. I got into a Tier 1 NLU for my PhD, the problem is I don't have a JRF, can't get one cause I am overage. The admin states they don't have a scholarship and they won't allow me to work for the first few years. I can't teach or litigate to cover my expenses. I maybe can stretch my finances for 3 years, but it's debatable. What do I do ? Do I skip this attempt and work and be more financially stable or do I just go for it. I also won't be getting hostel accommodation. Thanks in advance.

A totally biased piece according to me. I mean, there is ample historical evidence to show that Gyanvapi Mosque was built after demolishing a temple. Even left-wing Wikipedia opens with this sentence: " It was constructed c. 1678, a decade after Aurangzeb's demolition of a Shiva temple that stood at the site."

So what's wrong in that DYC did?

https://theleaflet.in/dhananjaya-yeshwant-chandrachud-the-new-right-liberal/

When are people from outside of Mumbai thinking of starting the househunting? I would not mind connecting with fellow law friends sailing in the same boat and marching towards the rental scene of Mumbai. Do reach out at ambitioussoya@gmail.com for further discussions on this. Or drop any other platform if you'd want to take it up there anonymously.

And what is so special about NLUD ? Do you get time for internships apart from the summer or winter ? Do you get time to study for judiciary or UPSC ? Do you get time to make contacts in the litigation circle. Stop pushing people to expensive bad ROI NLUs. An NLU is a state university. DU is a central university. If you're interested in litigation and judiciary, DU is the place to be. Go around Delhi circuit and tell me how many NLUD alumni do you see being talked about ? Stop telling people to pay lakhs for a degree that isn't going to get them a good ROI and instead will force them to pursue an MBA later on, and drown them in debt.

Bringing in foreign faculty and getting funds for research. Get your head outta your elitist NLU mindset and research a bit more. IoE are receiving grants more than central universities combined. JNU, DU, BHU are struggling with funds whereas these IoEs are providing lakhs for scholarships with ease.

Please guide me.

Currently, I’m interning under a Solicitor and Insolvency Professional in Mumbai since June 2024, where I’ve been involved in research, drafting of ancillary documents and also reviewed resolution plans for our ongoing case before NCLT Mumbai bench, also attended several meetings with fc's and also attended consultations regarding individual insolvency and guided them with the best possible way out for them.

As my third year is set to conclude this upcoming April, so will my internship period. I am considering applying to either the Disputes team or the Restructuring and Insolvency team of law firms.

I am seriously confused both of these and i dont have contacts to get into law firms and when should i apply, if i wish to?

The mere fact that you show contempt for somebody else's views and don't wish to engage in good faith with a piece of long text which seems to have entirely been written in good faith shows, to me, that you are a very bad lawyer-in-training.

Let us be clear: you guys are behaving like thugs, not like students who go to a world-class law school. Oscar Wilde once said that the thing you should gain most of all out of a good university education like Oxford is 'the ability to gracefully play with ideas'. I think Wilde's words equally apply to that institution. I know this from personal experience, having met enough NLSIU alumni who are fantastic at that. You do not represent anything good about your institution, but they do. Perhaps you and your specific group of friends are just bad students.

Stephen Fry, a Cambridge graduate, once said when speaking to students at the Cambridge Union, that the greatest privilege in life is 'the visa to the land of Bohemia', i.e., admission to a good university. 'Extend it for as long as you can, make the most of it when you have it', Fry advised his audience. If the great actor were to visit NLS, there is no reason why he wouldn't say the same thing, in my view. I sincerely beg that you consider these views and mend your ways. There are thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of people who would cut off their arms and legs to be where you are now, to have access to those opportunities you have access to, even to face the problems you are facing. You clearly have forgotten that, which is very entitled and disappointing.

Have had fair share of working with women led team. There is a difference between giving equal opportunities to genders and treating them equally. Some toxic shit ladies always treat you unfairly by harping on girl power and all such random terms. While there are some women who know how to mentor treat people with empathy not shout or endorse shouting and be the best one to work with. Not surprisingly, attrition in other toxic lady’s team is quite high as compared to the better one.

Accepting the status quo without question isn't admirable—it's complacent. Just because you've chosen to endure an unbalanced life for nine years doesn't mean it's the only path available or the one others should follow. Dismissing work-life balance as a "fashionable term" undermines the genuine concerns of professionals seeking a sustainable career and personal life. Progress in any field comes from challenging outdated norms, not resigning ourselves to them. If adapting means compromising our well-being indefinitely, perhaps it's the profession that needs to evolve, not our expectations.

Honestly, Mumbai is very expensive, and after spending on rent/cabs/food and investing a portion of my pay check not much is left to spend. In fact, I have been advised by some seniors to not worry about saving in the initial years and enjoy the money that I make. But I think that's just not my vibe. I would rather have some savings to fall back in case I end up quitting or for any other emergency in general. I see that many of colleagues spend lavishly and have no savings. I don't want to plan my life like that. And most importantly material things don’t really bring me happiness. I value other things more—like time spent with friends and family, having control over my life, some undisturbed free time, or a good trip or weekend getaway.

Your comment suffers from the fallacy of relative privation. Just because others experience similar stress with less compensation doesn’t make the burnout of a T1 associate any less real or significant. Most of the people who have managed to get a job in a T1 have worked their butts off.
I had no placement support and secured a T1 position on my own post-graduation. So, please avoid comparisons that suggest someone at T1 ‘deserves’ such stress simply because of a higher paycheck. Feel free to not comment when you don't have any value to add.