People should ask their parents to chill out. It's not true, if you're good enough you're good enough. There is an advantage that NLU kids have because of their alumini network is very resourceful in firms. You can bridge that with making connections yourself.

It was started by NLU kids pretending they're above everyone and it is being carried by non-nlu kids trying to get the 'victim of system's pathway. Both stupid.

Intern, learn, good grades, figure out an interest area, actually read and update yourself in that area and basics of law. You'll be okay.

Because they are afraid of the fallout. That doesn't necessarily mean that their point is invalid, not that I think that students had any choice left either. Even if one doesn't agree to all their demands, its important to keep the dialogue going and evaluating their needs rationally, something which the admin clearly failed to do.

One of the biggest requirements for defining any category is not to make it so wide that it loses its meaning. This definition seems like that. Every decision that is taken by a guy earning 12LPA and one earning above 1CPA, let alone 5 CPA, is so different that lumping them together in any category is a bit of a joke, really.

Hello. Thank you for sharing insight on this. Can you tell which role of in-house will help in growth in career? I have been offered an in house role at a tech company. The role pertains to IP management, contract drafting, assist in dispute resolution. But I feel I will get bored of it pretty soon. even in terms of growth, I have seen companies preferring people who have worked at law firm in the senior positions , rather than promoting the in house counsels as the Legal head. I have 1 PQE. My question is : 1) is it okay if I take up in house role at the beginning of my career ? 2) if I do get bored of this, can I switch to law firms ? Is it possible? 3) to grow as an in-house what kind of roles shall I look for? I want to do much more than doing most managerial work like maintaining history, IP portfolio management, contract management. How do I become part of the legal decision making for the company? I do not have work life balance as my priority at the moment, I do not mind putting in long hours. So either I’ll be studying judiciary along with in house role or I will get into litigation firm and put in long hours. Which out of the two is the best to maximize my potential?

Well, you could make fun of him or his typing or whatever (instead of tackling it with any experience) but he is not wrong. In house job is mostly about following up with law firms, the decisions being finally taken by law firm partners and commercial guys. Just saying, practically. Unless ofcourse you are a big shot in-house with a lot of experience in some blue chip company.

The complainant, who belongs to the tribal Bovi community, was a faculty member at the Centre for Sustainable Technology at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc) and said that in 2014, he was falsely implicated in a honey trap case and subsequently dismissed from service.

The complainant alleged that he was subjected to casteist abuse and threats.

Ex-Infosys CFO Mohandas Pai said in a post on X (formerly Twitter), “This is very wrong. Govt should ensure that innocent people in governing boards are not wrongly charged like this. The rights of all should be protected."

https://www.news18.com/india/infosys-co-founder-kris-gopalakrishnan-among-18-booked-under-sc-st-act-9204774.html

Equating someone earning 12 lpa and 3-4 crore PA itself shows how little attention this article deserves, not to mention that most individuals earning above 40-50 lpa are likely in intermediate-senior positions in companies, which definitely allows for transferable positions abroad, if not providing the direct choice to switch over to foreign positions

I'm from a mid tier NLU and have completed 7 semesters. Due to certain mental health issues, i have not been scoring a good gpa in the past 2-3 semesters. I am working hard to uplift it, but could you tell me what are the possible consequences of the slump i have been facing? How much importance is attached to grades by law firms, in foreign opportunities or judiciary interviews.?

Maybe. To get into Oxbridge you should have a couple of decent pubs and solid recs. Working on that is a more direct way to get to the same place. They won’t take you just because you got into the judiciary. The application requires good essays, good ideas for what you’ll do there, good grades to show you can handle the work, and good recs. Judiciary- academia- fancy firm life- they’re mostly agnostic to where you end up.

Nope. Mumbai would be most helpful city. No one has time to be rude with anyone, unless you're behaving like an A**hole. Ask for help and you'll get it. And that's the culture across communities. No one wants to bother in anyone's business. Women safety - much better than any other city. One of very few cities, where you can travel at 2-3 am alone without worry. Are there exceptions, of course yes. But not norm. Not interested in comparison so no comments on any other city. But this is Mumbai. The only problems are rising population and very high coat of living fueled by high real estate prices. Economic opportunities are still decently good here.

Living since 45 years in Mumbai. Still can't speak decent Marathi and can barely make sense of someone speaks Marathi. Interacting with fair amount of Babu types. Never faced a problem. And yeah, preferred mode of travel is public transport, due to its efficiency. So yeah, not really.

Exactly. These NLUO admins sound like extremely immature people. And believe me, I know what immaturity in an extreme form looks like. I was in England from 2021 to 2023, and saw some British uni VCs go to the extreme of deducting 100% of the salary of professors who were striking to protest unfair pay and working conditions. Seems like this specific collection of my own countrymen and countrywomen (the NLUO admin) would get on like houses on fire with the kinds of people who did that in Britain two years ago, and people like that, in my book at least, have zero right to expect other people to trust them.

First tell us your law school GPA. Are you at the top of your class (or close to it) or not? Then we can talk about big stuff like what you're doing. The fact you haven't revealed this vital info, knowing how important grades are for UK LLM applications, is rather revealing in and of itself, wouldn't you say?

You think so. Their transaction team has collapsed. They are managing the team at Mumbai with 5 junior associates who may also quit anytime if they get good offers. No seniors to guide the team. Only negative criticism and screaming without even considering that the people doing the job are not well experienced enough to execute the work. The firm is a cracked ship trying to stay float while sinking.

Us bro us. If law is not your cup of tea and you want to study for upsc then surely go ahead and prepare for it while i guess it would be worthless for gk given the exam scenario which focuses on the past year events from the day of actual examination when you'll be writing. Other than that its worth it if you succeed to make a career in this field because by pursuing law you will have an edge over other non-law degree holder aspirants who'll probably think to make a career in this field after completing their course

The NLU hierarchy is mostly down to lazy HR managers and the fact that competition is immense in a sluggish economy.

It is a cutthroat market and yeah you will struggle more than a NLU kid in getting the same opportunities.

That's undeniable, it's same in other fields too. It's not like ppl in tech who are successful are all from IIT but being from a premier government college does give you a headstart/better alumni etc.

Same with law, not all successful lawyers are from NLUs, infact most of the "successful" practicing advocates in the country are not from NLUs at all. Success is a personal thing and you need to define what success is for you? Is it 12lpa or 1cr or 5cr or a decent work life balance?

Bear in mind, in litigation no one cares about your law school.

It's a tough journey but are you "cooked"? Idts

I'm in a similar boat and while the prospects are bleak ultimately you can work your way into law firms (if that is your goal). Obviously you'll reach A0 a couple of years after graduation and after upskilling, meanwhile a comparable NLU kid would be A0 on graduation.

You need to see your pros and cons and decide. I don't think private colleges are worth it frankly and I'm from one of them. I'd honestly would rather have done a 3 yr LLB from DU compared to a 5 yr course from a private college.

You can compensate for the non NLU tag by making up good work experience, good publications and obviously side courses/degrees like CS which is doable side by side w law school.

This is the parameter he is using….

Again, it is a tricky definition, but let’s make a wide sweep and describe the middle class as anybody who would normally have some surpluses to spend on something more than basic subsistence, which includes food, children’s education, housing, health and basic mobility.

It is that wide class, ranging from, say, those earning Rs 12 lakh to Rs 5 crore per annum that is simply sitting back and hurting. They aren’t rich enough to emigrate legally along with assets, are taxed at high rates, and have also seen their investments lose value over the past year. Fun fact: the richer among them, say those earning Rs 2 crore and above, pay almost twice as much tax by percentage of their incomes as the top corporates or multi-billionaires.

https://theprint.in/national-interest/middle-class-is-addicted-to-modi-slowing-growth-stalled-reform-oppressive-taxes-dont-matter/2461727/?amp

Will the Chinese weaponise AI to conquer the world? Where does this leave India? It’s funny that people keep comparing China and India but they are racing ahead, while we preoccupy ourselves with freebies and reservation, while the government kills the middle class through high taxes!

Hello everyone, with so many recent threads about T1 firms being on a freeze (Khaitan, CAM), can insiders please share any information about the hiring status about the 2026 batch? Would really love to know:

-which other firms are following suit?

-is the freeze location/team specific or all over?

-is it expected to improve?

- an a bit off topic but what should be the general timeline for aiming a PPO?

Thanks!

Hello LI community. This post might be a bit long so I apologise for the same beforehand. I am a T-2 Nlu student currently in my 4th year and am studying on an Education Loan since. It is obvious that I have no backing from my family and I am on my own. Unfortunately, I do not have good academic records and have no T-1s on my CV yet.....and also nothing seems in sight for the same as well. My practice area is scattered too, however, mostly only in GC and Tax. With every passing day I am losing the hope of getting placed and to overcome this swamp situation I have got myself into. I am thinking of moving out of this field now given the non supportive nature of this field unless you are a rich brat or land into corporate and want suggestions as to what can I do after my degree to have a stable career in the future.

Ps - Please do not suggest Judiciary or UPSC as unless I start any further education, my liability for installments will start immediately after my graduation and I will again have to revert back to finding a job as the pay in litigation will not be enough for even sustaining myself let alone pay off such liability. I will appreciate any kind of advice that all the learned members of this community can pour in.

Stop being deliberately disingenuous. Obviously what the person meant (though they could have phrased it more accurately) is that Rhodes pays for the university study undertaken in Oxford. Any stay in England after that would have to be paid for by the individual's own hard work. You surely realise this. Just tell the truth, you were probably one of the mid-to-bottom students both at school and at university (i.e., law school). Therefore, you couldn't make an opportunity to go abroad, however much money your parents may have had. So you want to pull everyone else down by hiding behind "patriotism", hoping that one day, the world will be overpowered by mediocrity and the most bitter, shameless bullies like yourself will come out on top based on whose kick down and attempts to bully hurt most. Now go back to law school, do pranaam to the administration to repeat your degree, actually pass it with good marks and make something of your life instead of bitching about others.

looking into the current prospects of the college and the not so good ip cell and college admin, on top of a rented campus, does all of these factors take mnlu away from a tier 2 batch?? ive heard people there are also facing lots of problem with related to recent hostel shifting, is the college worth getting into now?? honest opinions only.

, I gave clat this time but my rank will only get me a T2 NLU. I want to get into NLS. Earlier I thought I'll take a drop or even take admission in T2 and give clat again. But now I saw NLS is starting a BA program. Should I apply to join that and then try for 3 year llb later? As it will take me 6 years which is the same with a drop or clat repeat.

Answers in order: (From Someone who has worked in a T2 firm for couple of months and back to Judiciary Prepration; Was earlier preparing for it too).

1. Yes they do, infact much higher, although would take not 10, but 15 years plus, unless you're nepo.

2. Yes, Partners in T1 easily take home such amounts. If you're asking about billable amounts, that'll be 7-8 crore, which is common for any T1 engaging with Top MNCs/Conglomerates. They're the top spenders.

3. Similar time frame, if you switch laterally early on in your career.

4. If you'll be making the amount you mentioned in Corp, you'll need to lose your values and ideals lol. (A batchmate of mine who thinks Adani is evil, had to work for Adani xD) Of course the corruption in Judiciary is more raw. (Lots of local politics, and then dealing with other corrupt judges). Although of you don't mind small towns, you can spend your life with slower promotions in some T3 towns. (Experience of seniors)

5. Depends on how you do it. There are multiple ways to make money. In Law firms of you're smart you'll save up decent amount. But don't expect much savings. A lot of expense of living in Mumbai, Delhi. Although with pay increase you would save a lot. All in all a luxurious lifestyle. Although your personal life is going to be fucked. Long Hours, amongst pressure from seniors, not all of us can handle it. 3 people from our batch, including me have left our jobs at law firms due to pressure amongst other things (although for me money was an issue was getting 8lpa, not for other two). That issue might not persist in Judiciary. Its a typical sarkari naukri, and you'll have options, either to slack or work hard. Your choice. The only choice you wouldn't have there would be to be honest.

TLDR - Both are decent choice, and results would depend on person to person.