i am very sorry OP that this happened. its just incredibly disturbing how predatory this entire interaction was.

i hope you are well! best of luck with everything ahead in your life. if you need any help/support, please reach out. i am sure many of us on this forum would be more than happy to help.

Don’t want to bum you guys out. If placements are low this year, next year it is going to be even lower. This AI adoption is coming large and fast. More so, everyone is reducing costs. I don’t see what we are going to do with so many lawyers. My advice is if you can find an alternative career.

Hello. I'm a second year law student from a tier 1 (lol) NLU. Unfortunately, more often than not, I find myself thinking about how this degree is not for me. I do not enjoy the environment I'm in, I do not see myself in either a corporate law firm or practising litigation. Truthfully, I find myself thinking that I'm simply not smart or competent enough for law. Even if that were true, above all, I just do not ENJOY it. I've always been interested in arts, film, music and the creative fields mainly.

I've been told that I can work in a field that's an intersection of law and the creative field. I've been told that I can try HR or Marketing.

I have no one to seek guidance from, no one who could get what I'm going through. I'd really REALLY appreciate some advice from you all. thank you!

आम्ही सर्व सपोर्ट टीम सदस्यांची एक बैठक आयोजित करत आहोत - Accounts, Corp Comm, Admin, Secretarys. ही बैठक Google Meet वर होईल आणि सर्वांना आमंत्रित केले आहे, HR वगळता. सध्या HR ला सामील करू शकत नाही. आपण पुढील आठवड्याच्या मध्यभागी एका संध्याकाळी भेटणार आहोत. या बैठकीची अचूक तारीख आणि वेळ तुम्हाला WhatsApp द्वारे कळवली जाईल. सुहैल सर परत येण्यापूर्वी आपल्याला भेटणे आवश्यक आहे.
योजनेनुसार, सुहैल सरला विचारायचे आहे की तो आमच्याबरोबर काय करणार आहे. आपल्याला जर नोकरीमधून बाहेर काढायचे असेल, तर आताच हे माहिती असायला हवे आणि आपल्याला योग्य वेगळे होण्याचे पॅकेज दिले जावे. दोन महिन्यांच्या नोटीससह आपल्याला एक एक करून बाहेर फेकता येणार नाही.
आपण एकत्र उभे राहिलो नाही तर, आम्हाला वेगवेगळं मारलं जाईल.
आपण पुढील आठवड्यात निर्णयावर पोहोचलो तरी, आपण HR च्या सदस्यांना माहिती देऊ आणि ते आमच्यासोबत सामील होण्यास स्वागत आहे. जर Suhail सर आमच्या वाजवी मागण्यांशी सहमत नसतील, तर आपल्याला सर्वांनी एकाच वेळी काम थांबवायला हवे. किंवा कदाचित एका वेगळ्या कायदेशीर फर्ममध्ये मोठ्या प्रमाणात सामील व्हावे.
काही वकील पुढील महिन्यात होणाऱ्या २५व्या वर्धापनदिनाच्या साजरीकरणाचा बहिष्कार करण्याची योजना करत आहेत जर त्यांना तेव्हा तरी स्पष्टता मिळाली नाही. कदाचित आपल्यालाही त्यांच्यात सामील व्हायचं का?

August is almost over, and so is the Day 0 season at t-1 NLUs. If there's one thing that we've all very clearly learnt from this, it's that the increased batch sizes at NLS have not only been a disaster for themselves, but have also had an equally cascading effect on others too.

At the start of this decade, NLS would have a double digit batch size, and along with NALSAR, NUJS and NLUD, the graduating batch would be ~400. Now, the incoming batches at BA LLB in NLS themselves have 400 students+ 60 at LLB. 135 at NALSAR. 130+60 at NUJS. And some 80 at NLUD. You would have close to 900 students only from the top 4 law schools lol.

It's terrifying to think what would happen to the batches of 28 and 29 in the near future. The law firm job market gets worse each year, and does not show absolutely any sign of recovery any time soon, at least not in this decade. I don't want to get into specific numbers, but NLS has 2/3 of its batch unplaced. NALSAR and NUJS around half. A significant part of this includes really deserving candidates, with good profiles, who have nothing to blame on themselves. You spend lakhs and lakhs behind an elite degree after clearing a competitive exam, go through 5 years of law school only to graduate unemployed. I don't think rankers have to ever had struggle so much.

Law is not a basic graduation degree like a bachelor's in humanities. When you treat it as one, mindlessly expand your intake without any regard for the potential future of your students, you eventually do face the brunt. Competition keeps getting fiercer, and opportunities keep getting scarcer. So congratulations NLS, you've managed to keep a huge bunch of yourselves, as well as others, unemployed.

Thread is 2 years old, but for anyone new facing similar situations, trust me, there is no real consistency in hirings. CGPA is only a cut off for only one kind of placements, the on-campus ones. For those that do have them as well, not everyone has super high cut offs. CGPA can also consistently change, and sort of settled around the Year 4 mark, big change from there is improbable. And if you do well in other things like internships, sky's the limit. Genuinely educate yourself, CGPA won't matter beyond Day Zero.

But if you want absolutely no ifs and buts about it, a comfortable spot is above 7.5 (8 is arbitrary). And yes, gaining a +/- 1 CGPA score in the next 2-3 years can happen. Happened with me.

Go if you want to meet other well to do people (who can spend 5k + just to attend) in the city... you may make friends, find someone to date or may be network in your business or profession.

P.s. Note to foodies, no dinner is served or even covered in the entry charges. The name is a misnomer.

NLSIU has so much clout that the government/CJI flew the students to meet with the CJI??!! Isn't that a bit much? The CJI doesn't seem bothered about other NLUs.

https://www.thenewsminute.com/karnataka/why-was-nlsiu-convocation-cancelled-a-meeting-with-the-cji-followed-by-a-demand-students-rejected

S&R has introduced a stupid system of deferred bonus payments. You get 75 percent in march, and 25 percent in June. This is meant to discourage exits. I know they aren't the only people who do it, but it still sucks. Also, for A0s, the well known 16.8 + 3 is not true anymore. The bonus paid is less than that now. Compensation is still somewhat competitive, but the firm used to be the market leader when we got our offers.

Excellent guy, really very good with juniors. Kindly hearted soul at the same time very knowledgeable in his area. Very very unlike the rest and hence had to go through hell to reach this spot. It will be good if you get an assessment internship, and finally get into his team. PK shares resources with AM whose team is equally good except few ex CAM member/s.

Bhai I have attained quite a bit in my professional life. Perhaps what you dream to achieve, I already have.

My father still implies many times that I am a loser. You should be bothered only by your own opinion. Loving your parents or being committed to them does not mean you should take their thoughts so seriously that it affects your well-being.

To some, things come easily and soon. Others have to work hard for it. Take baby steps. Think of a Plan B.

And may I just say one thing: with time, your financial reliance on parents will go down, and so will their criticism. And as for Indian parents, once they see that your profession is sorted, they will move to mock the state of your personal life.

It never ends. So I only advocate that you have a thick skin.

He would have survived if he hadn't been part of the group leaving Wachtell to join a rival law firm. His offer to move with the other partners was rescinded because of the scandal, and by then he'd also become a marked man at Wachtell.

If not for that, he'd have been fine.

(the senior Wachtell partner leading the defecting group was well known to have had affairs with not one but two of the junior partners who are now moving with him to the new firm - he just wasn't unlucky enough to have been caught redhanded on Tiktok while negotiating the move..)

Randomly came across this benchmark report for Legal AI: https://huggingface.co/spaces/JonathanSu/singapore-legal-ai-benchmark-explorer and GPT 5.6 Sol is running away with it at 39.2%, which, fine, sure, throws enough compute at anything. But let's not pretend that's a good score. That's the winner. Legal AI as a category is still embarrassingly bad at its one job.

The real buzz is further down the list. Lucio quietly snuck into 2nd at 27.5%, ahead of perplexity and harvey which I did not see coming, didn't think they had it in them, ngl. But the shocking part is Harvey. The top 1 global player of legal AI, the one everyone name drops in every VC deck is sitting at a pathetic 7.8% practically tied with LawNet AI, a tool nobody's even heard of.For a company with their funding and hype that's not a rough day, that's an identity crisis. Someone at harvey owes their team an uncomfortable monday standup.

And the kicker, the two "legal native, built for lawyers" platforms (Harvey and LawNet AI) got smoked by general purpose tools like perplexity and pair search that weren't even trying to be legal specific. So much for the specialization pitch.

I am a Harvey girl or at least I was, so this stings a little.

Anyone else seeing this kind of gap between the hype and the actual numbers? I have been loud about this on here before and still don't fully get the room but here we are.

Ha, ha........convocation 2026 cancelled.

This is called "Aa bail mujhe maar". NLS students can invite CJP Leaders for the convocation. Abhijeet Dipke will give out the degrees.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/national-law-school-calls-off-2026-convocation-chief-justice-row-10851868/

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/law-news/story/national-law-school-cancels-convocation-event-amid-opposition-to-presence-of-chief-justice-bar-council-chief-2980993-2026-08-27

While NFSU School of Law declares the IDDRC operational, Justice Dave to lead

https://www.scconline.com/blog/post/2026/08/24/nfsu-iddrc-first-board-of-governors-meeting-justice-ar-dave-president/

https://www.livelaw.in/lawschool/news/nfsus-international-digital-dispute-resolution-centre-holds-first-board-meeting-declared-operational-547300

The difference couldn't be more stark.

The joke's on you, mate. (I am not a Rhodes Scholar, never have been, never will be - not smart enough.) The individual in question would have a fit if he were to see what the foundation named after him is giving money for. That's the point: to subvert the right wing setups and make them into left-wing friendly setups.

Great suggestion and why not! Truly eminent people and NLSIU alumni can be invited as chief guest: Menaka Guruswamy, Dayan Krishnan etc. And people from abroad, if they can make it.

Abhijit Dipke and Saurav Das should also be invited. Many NLSIU students/alumni are willing to join thre CJP and the CJP can also give them important posts. Win-win situation for both. If Lok Sabha elections are held today, CJP can get anywhere between 20 to 50 seats. They will need the best brains and strategists for this to materialise and this is where IIT, IIM and NLSIU students can help.

https://x.com/SauravDassss/status/2092863460166205665

If you want to do PhD in India full-time, only then JRF makes sense. Otherwise, you should try looking for an AP job that offers scale pay, and pursue your PhD part-time, which you can do even from NLUs. Not all NLUs are equally good in that regard, as I am sure you know. Some of the private places may even offer better PhD fellowships than JRF.

You can approach headhunters, but do check their credentials and ask around if someone you know might have used their services before. There are a few old names like Vahura and others, you can find posts about them on LI itself.

If you know someone in the firm that you would like to join, you can also ask the HR through these contacts whether they are looking for people, in which case your details and CV can be shared.

These are the two most basic routes. Otherwise, occasionally some laterals shift via partner or principal associate recos, though those are few and far between.

In the 2000s, the fees was around 1 to 2 lakhs a year. From that perspective, it's broadly in line with inflationary trends. The main problem is that inflation impact is higher because of lower purchasing power of the rupee and extortionate direct and indirect taxes that we pay.

"I have never even heard of any of these..."

"I have grown up on bollywood, tollywood films and on bollywood music"

That line sums up both OP's point and yours. India vs Bharat. NLSIU version 1 had students from an elite 1% of India, NLSIU version 2 has students from the mass 99% of Bharat.

Excellent. Did the Managing Partner brief the support staff too? I don't think he did. ELP has a decent sized HR team (4), Corporate Communications (6), Admin (3) and a number of secretaries (around 8). I assume none of them will move to Dhruva, except the secretaries of the three senior equity partners in Tax and Trade. After TnT leave, the Managing Partner plans to build an AI led firm which will be "asset light". I fear most, if not all the support staff, and a number of Associates in Corporate, Litigation etc. will be looking for jobs pretty soon after the break-up is officially announced.
inSANity!

20 years ago parents didn't want their kids to study law. They were pushing them to engineering and medical. NLSIU was originally meant to create litigators who are not paid that well. NLU fees realigned to commercial firm salaries since that's where most grads go now. People take loans in anticipation of the salary; they are not always rich, but yes, post-liberalization, more people do have money.

In India if we tried something like that on anything like a meaningful scale, the big cities of the country would be overwhelmed with unemployed uncles who join anti-feminist and anti-women organisations to satisfy their wet dreams and to wallow in the comfort of explanations that the cause for their misery is everything but themselves - so-called non-transparent moral standards, woke people, men who betray other men to the so-called "woke cause", the so-called feminisation of the legal profession (a laughable concept considering how horribly women are treated in it), etc, etc.

I remember John Oliver called some of the dating apps "a barrage of unwanted dicks". If we tried to dismiss partners for bad behaviour on a meaningful scale, the T1 cities of our country would become: "barrages of middle-aged, unemployed, unwanted dicks".

Signed,

A man born after the year 2000.

Any Firms with openings ? What are some small good firms with corporate offices? GC/PE/VC/M&A?

There are many firms which are small and lowkey but pay decent with good work. I'm trying to find out all opportunities. Are there any openings at Associate level? A1/A2/A3.

If anyone has interned in SAM Mumbai's B&F Practice, would love to know your experience - the teams and their environment, associates' behaviour, work hours, quality of work, etc. They only give 2 weeks to start off, is extension difficult to get, especially in months like December? Would really appreciate anything on this!

How is the internship experience at teh ex-JurisCorp, current JSA Equity Partner's team? It would ber really helpful to know what the work is like, and how the team environment is - associates' behaviour, work hours, work quality, anything really. Please reply if you have any experience / have heard about it!

Hi, I have read a lot of posts saying that Capital Markets is a monotonous job, so I want to know if they have a rule book for this field ready? Something that can make the lives of the freshers entering this field a little easier. And if this is the situation then how the attrition rate is so high, if people are actually comfortable with this field!

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6 months or else then you realise you have to actually work and you resign as you can't deal with real world. My associate resigned saying I can't work after 5 pm... in litigation...in supreme court. So noone to blame but yourself for lobbying protesting for law schools to pamper you etc and not allowing them anymore to teach you realities of life.

This is what happens when Sudheer decides to make NLSIU into a 'take a lot of people to increase revenue' college like JGLS.

NLS was elite with a small batch size of 80. Now NLS takes 500+ students. Entire corporate law fresher legal market in India hires 1000 lawyers. Where do you think jobs are going to come from?

What is interesting of course, is that the fees/cost of attending have gone up dramatically in the last 30 years - I don't recall the exact figures, but the current fees are what? Maybe 20x the 1990s fees? I don't think inflation has increased by that much in 30 years (of course, the earning power and starting salaries commanded by an NLSIU degree have also increased dramatically in that time which is why people are happy to pay the fees).

Which suggests that the older batches were actually less elite compared to the current batches. There were certainly several people in my (old) batch whose families couldn't afford even the lower rates of those days and had loans or university support etc (most of them have since done very well for themselves and are financially very comfortable).

The only thing I would disagree with is the starting statement on 'how many people got it through connections.' Your statement makes it seem like NLS placement records owe their due to personal connections and not RCC efforts. Not sure if you have even been part of RCC or are making it up, but this is simply not true. Almost every internship/dayz hire are through RCC, the ones that get their internship through connections are few and far in between (and in my experience, they rarely convert it to a job unless it's some high up connections).