Guys, please end this topic. What's happened has happened. Please move on. The CJI gave a convocation speech at Nalsar (where is NOT the chancellor) but ignored NUJS. Let's focus on that. Let's focus on invitign the CJI to NUJS.

Also, I am pretty sure no video clips exist. Even if they do, just move on please.

He is as good if not better and charges roughly the same fees as well. All 3 of them really rose together. In fact, GS is the only one of the three who was designated Senior by the Supreme Court, that too before he turned 40 years p;d. Rohatgi and Salve were designated by Delhi HC.

He was Solicitor General in the UPA government, when he was in his late 40s, early 50s and was also recommended for SC judgeship.

He hasn't been popular over the past few years because he has not been regularly practicing in India and has spent most of his time in London. He appears in some high stake matters such as the Amazon-Future dispute and some Mining matters relating to Orissa

It depends on where you land, really.

For a normal Advocate/AoR: Now, over here there are several kinds of people. You'd have to take into account the overall impression of the Advocate/Aor. The pay would firstly depend upon their own earning capacity. This earning capacity would depend upon: no. of filings/appearances/empanelments/good clients, etc. For people who have a healthy balance of the aforesaid, you can score (even for a fresher) a salary of 30k-40k. I seem to remember that v recently, Mr. Kunal Chatterji (AOR & Standing Counsel, WB) was offering somewhere in this range. So, for people who have good metrics, they will pay a somewhat respectable amount. For these boutique firms etc, the same funda as applicable to normal advocates apply.

Although few in number, there are also several Senior advocates who hire freshers as their Chambers colleagues. A good way to approach a senior is to visit courts and try to talk to them in person in order to score an interview. Since you're a fresher, the senior may not consider your application when sent through an email. So, try to approach them in person during lunch/tea breaks. Please try don't live under the impression that they will snub you - the Seniors tend to receive juniors asking for advice, etc., better than most other advocates. If you end up at a Senior's Chambers even as a fresher, you can expect a pay of around 50-60k.

Best of luck!

Both research and my own experience show that creatine monohydrate (preferably Creapure) supports brain function, esp. under conditions of sleep deprivation and mental fatigue. For those considering it, it typically takes about a month to fully load into your system if you take 3-5 grams daily in the morning (preferably with carbs - milk, juice, or water with a fruit like banana). You shouldn't expect any significant results before that. Personally, creatine monohydrate helped me get through years of sleep deprivation with at least some level of brain functioning. But beyond a point, it won’t be enough. You can push yourself for 2–3 years, but eventually the system breaks down and mental health starts to spiral (depression, insomnia), and physical health gets even worse. While mental health might bounce back within a month with the right treatment like Antidepressants and anxiolytics from a psyciatrist, recovering physical fitness can easily take a year, even with the best supplements and training. Also a kind suggestion, caffeine in a long run is very harmful, esp. post afternoons, so choose the alternatives, do not smoke or drink if you do, that also helps.

All in all, jobs and the rat race take away the best years of your life, spent sitting at a desk. Sometimes I really wish I had been born in a village with farmlands, doing nothing and just living in peace.

Sorry for oversharing, just got sentimental while writing this. I was thinking about it last night too so got a bit relatable.

13-14 years in DJS (minimum) to go from DJS to DHJS.

It also depends on your rank in the final merit list, i.e., higher the rank, faster the promotions. The entire batch selected in one year is not promoted together, promotions are in smaller groups based on ranks.

30-32 is on the late side, so, so unless your rank is very high, most probably you might not make it to PDJ of a district, but you will surely become a ASJ/ADJ.

HC, 95% no chance.

Is that why most of the bodies were not even being released for cremation and the relatives were not even being told why or when? Even before NFSU was just a twinkle in Amit Shah's eyes, accidents happened and forensic analysis got done. Enough with the hype. We are talking about law universities. The place isn't one.

Given the strength, it’s NOT as good if you have average academics. However, if you manage to be in the top 10% (top 60-70 (of the 5 year course)) - then you can easily get placed at a tier 1.

You’ll get best of the opportunities in terms of internship and placement, just that you really have to work for it.

Just tell me this! Why do your NLU Graduated elite lawyers working in disputes team at a are still looked down as glorified solicitors and clerks and still briefing advocates graduating from so called state unis!

Thanking the mods for featuring his and further fuelling the disparity between the elites and common folks! Kian would be proud!

Tell me honestly, pakka tu wahi na ho NLU ko apni personality bana leta hai and instagram bio main < NLU 'batch > likhta hai, because it seems so! I get it because that would be the only achievement of your life.

It's okay, it'll get better! I hope you heal from whatever you're going through!

OP here! I understand what you're saying but I am fine with an outright no! I passed up an opportunity for an assessment internship with another firm!(ik this is on me!)

Since I already graduated in May and have been hunting for opportunities since then, such an experience stings and leaves a bad taste!

The campaign was carried out at NUJS and covered by LI. This was many years ago. A petition was co-signed by various NLU student bodies, but the NLSIU SBA did not join. The lack of support was RUMOURED to he because they felt that nationalisation might erode their legacy advantage, because it will place all the NLUs at the same pedestal.

Later, the issue came up at the Karnataka High Court, during the NLSIU domicile reservation case. ASG Vikramjeet Banerjee (who is an NLSIU alum) appeared in the case. The argument NLSIU made (which was accepted by the court) is that only NLSIU is a national university, because Chief Justice of India is the chancellor. Others are state universities. But they conveniently forgot to mention is that some NLUs also have the CJI as Chancellor.

Work and culture in excellent in Group D. Nandish and Vaidhya are known to take care of their team and have very good PE and M&A relationships. Had a great time when I worked with them few years ago and very memorable experience. Work is also top notch. They have significantly scaled up in last few years.. Difficult to get into that team though.

Brutal and brilliant comment, which should hopefully bring people down to earth. Let me add some hard truths for the fanboy law students here:

- Unless you become a senior counsel, or become among the top 10% of equity law firm partners, you will simply not have the kind of life that people talk about in LI comments: flat in DLF Camellias, Lamborghini etc.

- Even a flat in a lesser gated community, or a less pricey car like a BMW, is not so easy.

- Further, many are financing such lifestyles through loans, because of peer pressure, FOMO etc.

- Many of the NLSIU alumni who are celebrated as star counsels are actually nepo kids. They would have succeeded even if they went to Amity. Every single inch of their success is because of their family influence. There are alumni whose parents had direct access to various CJIs, Sonia Gandhi, Manmohan Singh, P Chidambaram etc, which got them ahead.

- For those who are non-nepo kids and are successful, they had well-wishers in politics. One person who joined the BJP had Arun Jaitley’s blessings and is thriving today (to his credit, he genuinely believes in Hindutva and is not a turncoat opportunist). Another person was dating an influential lady politician, who pushed his career — all it takes are a few phone calls in Delhi.

If you are a non-political, non-nepo kid who is a regular law firm partner or in-house counsel, 99% of times your life will be like that of a software engineer or corporate executive at the sane level —very nice and comfortable, but not super-luxurious.

Take time for yourself. Try to understand how your body works. For me, I never work past 1 am, I'll sleep no matter what. I'll sleep at 1 then wake up at 7 and do the work. I have found out that my brain does not work after 1 am, and it is better that I take some rest and then start working with good efficiency.

I remember pulling all-nighters and reading the same lines 5 times before understanding basic shit.

No, because they don't have options. The top NLU grads working there have a home in Kolkata and they do not want to go outside the city. KCO Kolkata is the only good firm in the city. The others are just very incompetent fellows who would not be hired by any decent firm in any other city.

The top 70% of the BALLB (Hons.) programme gets placed in a T1 or a firm with T1 equivalent salaries. About 4-5 people get placed in foreign firms that pay around 50-60LPA at the fresher level. So, I don't know what you mean by the salaries offered to top 10% of NLS freshers. If you are talking about the LLB programme, then that's sort of true.

Now, coming to your questions:

Yes, graduating at 35 does affect your chances of getting a corporate law job. Indian law firms are terrible places, and a team usually prefers a 23-25-year-old at the fresher level instead of a 35-year-old. As a lawyer, you do basic mind-numbing compliance work that requires a very little/basic understanding of tech. In-house roles might take your background more favourably than law firms, though.

Given your background, I would not suggest litigation; you will have to slog for at least 10 years, and I don't think that is possible at 35.

I am a bit curious tho, why did you not try for an MBA? Your experience would be incredibly valuable for an MBA role at a tech company.

Tharoor won not because of the Congress, but because of the Muslim league, which is an ally of the Congress. Muslims are a big chunk of the constituency and ensured that he defeated the BJP. Had the Muslim league fielded a candidate, they would have eaten up his votes and ensured a BJP victory.

That's bad but the "worst" part is the emotions. Transaction teams are in a sport / race. Litigation teams are in a battle. The defeats lead to real time consequences...

Also, every hearing / order feels personal for the client. They suddenly become know it all and have an opinion on everything. Hindsight 20/20 happens instantly after every hearing. "We should have made this argument - the judge was not happy", "You should have gone with that senior counsel - my relative told me he is very good" "you should have framed the cross question differently... We could have caught him"

You need a really thick skin to be in litigation.

Absolutely. NFSU is the best place to do a PhD for that. It has the credibility, funding, and branding. It is primarily a university for higher degrees (Postgraduate and doctoral studies). It has a separate school for doctoral studies, which should tell you a lot. Don't be fooled by the NLU-centric discussions and posts on this platform. 99% of all posts here are about UG degrees. You should NEVER do a PhD in a state university - that all NLUs are.

Remember, with law, there are certain types of legal practice which are closed off to you unless you are good at Maths. These mainly relate to corporate and commercial law, though, like Banking and Finance, Debt Capital Markets, M&A and competition law etc. These involve working with numbers regularly.

The one line answer is - Go to Jindal if you can afford to, easily.

You see a mentor once told me, when I was deciding between HNLU and JGLS is that when you go to Jindal not only you're expecting a fee bump but a lifestyle bump too. Which has it's own costs. Thus, if you can afford that do join Jindal.

Both in Jindal or any T2 NLU for that matter you'll need to work hard to get placed. You'll need to put efforts. It's not going to be easy at either place. Sure at Jindal you'll get more resources but there are going to be more distractions too.

I know an IP law firm very niche and boutique which is famous for doing such tactics, have heard that they will only hire freshers and torture them till they are not left employable anywhere. So do your own due diligence before applying and also find places which genuinely care to train you rather than mess up with your mental peace.

Moderator, your decision-making process is completely lacking in any kind of reasonableness or consistency. You have previously marked other elitist and exclusionary comments like 'NLU students are the cream of the cream', for example, as 'trollish'. And you leave this untouched? How was this allowed to pass through your so-called filtration process without any tagging? It has all the hallmarks of a statement which is a legitimate view, but one deserving of certain caveats on high levels: the desire to keep certain branches of the legal profession closed off to people from certain backgrounds. Your moderation rules also claim that the content you publish is supposed to help lawyers become more thoughtful and mature! How on earth does this tripe do that?

I believe you are under an obligation to every hard-working law student from economically disadvantaged or other marginalised backgrounds with meaningful aspirations towards a litigation career who is a member of the LI community and who may have been negatively impacted by this statement. Even if it was a joke, I think the 'trollish' tag is broad enough to encompass a recognition that it is a politically incorrect joke. Now please do the honourable thing and provide that explanation. Alternatively, publicly apologise and resign from your position as an LI moderator.

What is widely understood is that the above is true mostly for few teams within JSA bnf and that too only post exit or relocation of two senior partners everyone knows about. To survive, the newer lot is heavily undercutting even for decent sized deals and also taking up work outside of their practice area and expertise. Due to their low revenues and haphazard management, they are also unable to retain good talent. All this is tarnishing the reputation of other high billing and high quality teams in the firm and creating a wrong impression in the market about the firm in general.

Hi everyone,

I’d appreciate any insights or experiences from those who’ve navigated a similar path or know of others who have.

Background:
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- - I’ve secured admission to NLSIU’s 2025–28 cohort for the 3-Year LL.B. (Hons.) program.
- - I'm in my early 30s with 9+ years of experience in tech, AI, data, and digital/technical content — across both freelance and full-time corporate roles.
- - My background is in Computer Science and I have a Master’s in Data Science & AI.
- - I currently/used to work at a global tech firm in a remote role. My current compensation is roughly equivalent to what a top 10% NLS graduate might earn as a fresher in a Tier-1 Indian law firm.

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The Dilemma:
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- - I’ll be 35+ by the time I graduate.
- - I’m deeply interested in transitioning into corporate law, with a focus on Tier-1 Indian firms or tech-law/compliance niches — and potentially a future LL.M. + international role.
- - Given my background, I’m particularly drawn to areas like data protection, AI regulation, fintech law, and tech transactions.

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My Questions:
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- - Is it realistic to aim for top corporate law roles at my age — either in India or through the LL.M. + international route?
- - Will law firms (or in-house roles) value my domain experience if I position myself in tech-facing legal areas?
- - Does being a late-30s graduate affect placement or growth in Indian corporate law firms?
- - Any success stories of people who made a mid-career switch through the 3-year LL.B. would be incredibly helpful.
- - I’m not currently considering litigation due to my age, financial urgency, and being a first-generation lawyer. But do let me know if you think there's a viable path I’m overlooking.

Would be grateful for any thoughts, guidance, or examples you can share. Thanks in advance!

A company is executing an MOU for grant of irrevocable consent in favour of Indian LLP, for consideration of Rs. one crore eleven lakh, by way of tendering a post dated cheque. It is a condition of the MOU that in case of default in payment of consideration by LLP, compound interest would be levied effective from the date of default till realisation. In case the default happens, would the company by able to invoke Section 7 of IBC against the LLP?

Tbh I would not take the financial strain to go to Jindal. Its a good law school, but not worth fiscal stress it can put a family under. Especially since beyond your fees you will have day to day expenses, when you go to internships you may be paying for travel, accommodation etc.

OP here.

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