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https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/278146-Banking-Finance-Oversimplified-Part-2-ECBs-#comments

Part 2, 3 and 4 were there. You can just search on Google "the heading of this thread + legally India"

Choosing a less hectic path is so often met with disdain rather than understanding. Not everyone measures success by salary or skills alone, and there’s nothing inherently superior about working longer hours, enduring more stress or having more legal knowledge. Everyone is entitled to live their lives, some live to work, some work to sustain living.

I agree with NLSIU's position that it is the only NLU that is a national university. The Karnataka High Court was right in upholding it. Please read the decision carefully. It's not only because the CJI is Chancellor, but also because it was a university set up by the Bar Council of India to serve a national purpose.

This has nothing to do with NLS being the only national university, infact NLS is very clearly a state university since it was established under the State Act. Let me also debunk the notion that NLS did what it did because it believed that it is the only 'national' law school. In my opinion, it is the state govt. that does not want to let go of its control over NLS- how will they impose domicile quota requirements if NLS becomes a central university? The administration, of course will have to dance to the tune of the State government since they rely on it for funding and of course getting more land from Bangalore University. (And they need land since they are expanding like anything.)

1. "i want to understand how to get in touch with foreign law firms? is it easier to reach out to them after a llm or directly while working through their website or through recruiters?" Theoretically, at least, it should be easier to get in touch with good contacts through an LLM, as the graduate recruitment teams, associates and trainees often visit the campuses of the good universities for careers services events and events organised by the established student law societies or top city careers-focussed (law/finance) societies. But that comes at a huge price - UK living costs, university tuition and all that sort of thing, not taking into account miscelaneous expenses that might arise, such as commuting costs between campus and law firm offices, if events are held there, or for example, the costs of dining at a fancy hotel or something (which sometimes come up). Also, again, you are likely to gain access to at least some resources (like SJT samples for TC applications etc) through your LLM uni's careers service, but again this comes with the price tags of UK living costs + tuition mentioned above, along with no fixed promise of a TC coming your way. What you have to understand is that the careers services of these unis do a lot: they help conduct mock interviews for you, they have institutionally-set up facilities to help do both manual and technology-based systems of your CV (their CV checker tools use many of the ATS systems that employers use to score your CV), they have facilities that help you practice for video interview questions, sample SJT practice tests, etc, they regularly conduct careers presentations, bringing in recruiters on campus to talk to foreign lawyers reading for LLMs on how to qualify and work in the UK. But that is as far as they will go: giving you a nudge or helping you develop the skills, but they won't hand you the employment offer. Of course, you can play your cards right and be successful this way - some LLM students every year manage to do exactly that - but there is that major caveat still associated with it.

Therefore, I'd suggest getting in touch with them through Indian contacts of yours who know the right people. There are plenty of people who should be able to help. If you have attended a reasonably good Indian university, you should have at least one senior per cohort who went for a TC right out of law school or made a lateral move, or if you know how to use LinkedIn etc well to get in touch with Indian kids who did their LLB in UK and got a TC that way (and BTW there are a not insignificant number of these, not all of whom are arrogant or snobbish), you could manage that way. Again, as you can see, the argument really drifts towards you playing your cards right.

2. "I also want to ask, will it not be more convinient [sic] to get in touch with law firms after clearing the SQE? this way they will save on cost of funding my SQE exam and the prep and I can directly get started with work?" Not so simple as that. This question has been addressed in the comment above the one written by the user calling themselves "pi".

3. "also, i think Indian practising lawyers get an exemption from giving the SQE II if we have practised for 2/3 years." Really depends on the nature of your circumstances and practice, though overall, yes this should be possible. Talk with the foreign law firms you get in touch with and/or the SRA when you are registering for SQE.

4. "

Additionally, do you think with the talks of foreign law firms coming to india and the BCI trying to make amendments, having cleared the SQE will be of any help?" Merely clearing the SQE? Not so much, I think. What could potentially be of great help is having had prior UK work experience (e.g., having done a TC + post TC NQ and further PQE in years past). Other than that, nothing much.

And after this, frankly he should not visit NUJS. I remember something a while ago - came across it on David Latt's substack newsletter, 'Original Jurisdiction'. Some U.S. circuit judges instituting an open policy that they wouldn't hire Yale JD graduates for clerkships because they felt that their reactions to conservative speakers on campus meant they weren't intellectually ready for life at large. I don't wanna push too hard, but their Indian colleagues should pay very careful attention to what happened and decide if perhaps it might be a worthwhile source of inspiration for how to deal with NUJS. After all, isn't NUJS supposed to be "the Yale of the east"? Therefore wouldn't it be only fair for NUJS to experience consequences for tolerating bad behaviour?

https://davidlat.substack.com/p/a-prominent-federal-judge-declares

Why would you put this out when you have no further slabs and one of the go to tricks is to underpay existing employees or lateral with lower bases? And that this amount is for one of three teams only. And before you say 2.5 months bonus which you need to because everything is slabbed and remember times when partners left for low pay or that at every level pays can differ by 50-60% and no performance is not the reason.

You would like it, would you? If it were your son/daughter/brother/sister/wife/husband/friend who was on the receiving end of such abuse and the institution's spirit was to "move on"? Go shove your opinions into the hardest-to-access depths of a very, very deep lake.

Please don’t spill the tea — not everyone deserves an undignified send-off.

Let’s just leave it at this: Retirement was the right decision for him. He served the Bar and the country in the best way he knew how. We wish him all the very best in this new chapter.

His retirement should serve as a timely reminder for all of us to take our mental health seriously — to reflect on how we respond to our environment: are our reactions measured or disproportionate? And to take proactive steps when something no longer serves us or begins to impair our ability to engage meaningfully in our social and professional lives.

Hi Bro

I worked in Tuli Delhi office for a year (disputes team).

If you get a chance to join the coverage team, go for it. They work directly under Neeraj Tuli and they are happy. Lots of smiles during and after meetings.

However, the story is completely different for other teams. The culture is extremely toxic and most partners are on ▮▮▮ in Delhi.

The mumbai team is still better than Delhi. Please check profiles of people already working there. You will find better retention rates in Mumbai than in Delhi. There are strong reasons behind that.

Things could have changed in the last 3 years, so speak to someone who is already working there before joining.

My 1 year was a complete disaster since I had to work under a partner who was a ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ (who has subsequently fired).

Far before all the keyboard warrior campaigns an actual bill was introduced in the parliament for NLU nationalisation drafted by a DSNLU student. LI covered this also: https://www.legallyindia.com/home/dsnlu-student-drafted-nlu-bill-now-introduced-in-lok-sabha-for-national-importance-status-to-nlus-20170804-8706

I wanted to know about the pay which the company is offering, the kind of work you get, what are the working hours and the behaviour of seniors in general.

I really wish to work as an insurance lawyer and my options are limited. Hence, I need an idea regarding the same.

I'm a Law student in my Final year, my college isn't very encouraging or even the seniors and classmates are not very big on internships i come from a no lawyer in family background so all was okay but i recently joined internships and i see kids younger than me literally in their first year with numerous internship experience so i feel like i lacked too much and contemplating about what to do about my situation since im already in my final year am i too late

Does your partner/PA/SA let you work from home post 1 am for the all nighter day or are you in office? Asking because I don’t know.

If partner/PA/SA is in office I get it , otherwise I think it is okay to go home and work and grab a quick nap. Is this what most people do?

I'm currently working at a T2 firm but intend to switch to a T1 soon. Can you help me answer the follow questions:

1) Are legal recruiters like Vahura etc legit? Or do we just directly apply to big firms

2) Now that we are no longer in university, how do we tailor our new CV? Do we still need to include where all we had interned?

3) How to prepare for lateral interview at A0 - A1 level? What kind of questions are asked?

4) When do interviews take place? Do they clash with work days? In that instance, I may have to take days off.

I would be very grateful if someone can answer these questions.

Guys, your I-hate-NLS itch needs scratching so often, you need help. You sound like the British prior to 23 June 2016. And I'm not telling you the significance of that date. You went to universities that are alleged (and I use the word "alleged" advisedly) to be better than NLSIU. You find out that date's significance yourself, if you don't know it already.

Look mate, tell me of any well-reputed law university or university law school in the world, the majority of whose successful graduates aren't commercial lawyers. Then we'll talk. NLS has produced its fair share of courtroom advocates, academics etc. More than enough to have made its mark.

Which of these is correct?

1. As he says, he genuinely wanted to quit and spend time with his kids, make way for the young generation.

2. Will join politics.

3. Will focus on writing, teaching, maybe an honorary professorship at an NLU or Jindal —- rebrand as a consti law jurist.

https://theprint.in/judiciary/go-to-lawyer-for-high-stakes-constitutional-human-rights-cases-dushyant-dave-retires-at-70/2688898/

Arun ji had discerning taste—especially when it came to Indian savouries. Shiv Mishthan Bhandar held a particularly soft spot in his heart… and, some might say, a curious sway over his palate. Not every halwai in Delhi could claim to have a Senior Advocate, Finance Minister, and master strategist eating out of their hands. But then again, not every halwai knew how to season things just right. IYKYK!

hi, so i have completed two years into the profession. i want to understand how to get in touch with foreign law firms? is it easier to reach out to them after a llm or directly while working through their website or through recruiters? I also want to ask, will it not be more convinient to get in touch with law firms after clearing the SQE? this way they will save on cost of funding my SQE exam and the prep and I can directly get started with work? also, i think Indian practising lawyers get an exemption from giving the SQE II if we have practised for 2/3 years.

Additionally, do you think with the talks of foreign law firms coming to india and the BCI trying to make amendments, having cleared the SQE will be of any help?

Please let me know your thoughts.

I’m from a very humble law college with no placement support, and I’ve been selected for the NISM LL.M. in Capital Markets & Securities Law (with MNLU Mumbai). The program claims 100% placement with offers from law firms, banks, NSE, BSE, investment firms with ₹6.33 LPA average and ₹11.59 LPA highest CTC.

Would be grateful for honest views from anyone knowledgeable about the ROI and career prospects of the program.

IC RegFin Legal is offering a package of 20.50 lakh in day0 of all top law schools for 2026 batch and has handed over several PPOs already. 1.40 lakh monthly fixed being offered plus annual bonus. Upped it from 20 lakh offered last year to the 2025 batch where also more than 15 hirings were done. Good practical conduct to showcase that one means serious business. this consistent year on year package is higher than most of the tier 1 firms so why to get into unnecessary debates. Let someone relatively new keep breaking the barriers, good for the growth of the overall market which can see more firms paying well.

Only one correction, the suspension letter was indeed issued and almost handed over. At the last moment, at the insistence of the last ▮▮▮, the matter was kept aside. The current ▮▮▮ is trying to gaslight the GB, saying that there was an investigation where this individual was declared innocent, which never happened.

Pros:

*Bigger Campuses

*Less Fund Crunch

*More Diverse Peer Group

*Government can also concentrate their funds on One Uni

*Some NLU's can immensely benefit from Branding

*The NLU's merging with IIM's will get better faculty for the BBA Component programme

*Better BA faculty, since some IIT's already have decent BA faculty as well

*Chance to pay better salaries to NLU Faculty

NLUD with IITD

NLS with IIMB

NUJS with IIM C or IIT KGP

GNLU (Silvassa Campus also) with IIM A

NLUJ with IIT Jodhpur

NLIU and NLU Jabalpur with IIM Indore

NUALS with IIM Kozhikode

RML (and NLU Prayagraj) with IIM Lucknow or IIT Kanpur

NLU Meghalaya with IIM Shillong

TNNLU with IIT Madras

MNLU (all three campuses) with IIT Bombay

NLU Assam with IIT Guwahati

NLU Vizag with IIM Vizag

CNLU with IIT Patna

HNLU with IIM Raipur,

NLU Sonipat with IIM Rohtak

HPNLU with IIT Mandi

NUSRL with IIM Ranchi

NLUO with IIT Bhubaneshwar

RGNUL with IIT Ropar

NALSAR with IIT Hyderabad (ik this is less exciting)

The average T1 NLU grad (from the early 2000s) is nowhere near the high flying lives people vicariously live through. The capable professionals are living lives similar to corporate executives (just like the average Indian T1 MBA). Which is nothing to scoff at, in a country like India - they own a 3/4 BHK home in NCR/BLR/BOM, their kids go to a high achieving private school, they do a nice holiday every year, own 2 cars, have a cook/cleaning staff.

They DO NOT own Rolexes/APs/Pateks, do not fly first class, do not own a >50L car, and shop at (nice, but not the highest end) malls. Their kids aspire to an Ivy League undergrad, and settle for Ashoka if they can't hack that. Nothing wrong with this life, in fact, the proliferation of CLAT coaching in T3 towns in India is aspiring to this, since engineering and medicine do not offer such a direct pathway to this life anymore (for the average graduate, obviously the highly capable in any discipline have different aspirations).

The true 1% of the legal profession (1cr/day senior counsel, rainmaker equity partners at T1 firms) are in a league unto themselves. There are T1 NLU graduates in that scene, but they are there largely owing to their own hustle or nepo connections. The T1 NLU tag is just window dressing after a point. Much like the HWS MBA in American high society.

New generations of students joining NLS should be advised to moderate their aspirations and not be taken for a ride by FOMO and social media induced perception.

Hmmmmmm........if an alumnus of NLS uses such a flawed logic based on incomplete information to justify his argument in the Karnataka High Court, then it calls into question the quality of education he received while at NLS.

NLS rightfully deserves the tag of 'Hayward' of the East.

Because aren’t Rajya Sabha seats (whether elected or nominated), usually given only to senior Supreme Court lawyers, like Singhvi, Jethmalani, Sibal, etc?

Incidentally, the BJP also gave an RS seat to Manan Mishra. So the trend under Modi seems to be to give it to non-elite lawyers, not the super-elite ones.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ujjwal-nikam-harsh-vardhan-shringla-mumbai-blasts-lawyer-ex-foreign-secretary-among-4-to-get-rajya-sabha-pass-8867233

The world over, find me a good law school that is not part of a larger university ecosystem. It is only in India that we have stand-alone law universities (in the form of state NLUs). Forensic analysis was there even before NFSU, but this time it is the speed and scale (aided by technology) that is the difference made by NFSU. If a lawyer or a law student does not know the value of forensics in delivering justice, then they don't deserve to be in this profession. Everything that "Khyber" had mentioned two years back is coming to fruition with regards to NFSU, and the party has just begun.

So what you think will be a good idea to pursue.

I be discriminated in mba too I guess as they prefer engineering and commerce grads in many mba college eligibility and selection.

Plus I think my course ain't good enough to stand at par with mbbs and bds grads too they have more market recognition.

I thinking hr and all but again why anyone prefer me.

Sorry I am saying bad about myself as wanna know truth.

Can i compensate somehow with doing nios maths or something or getting better cat or mba marks in course or not possible to compensate for education background.

I am male, 25 , 12th biology 90+ and college 60+ ( they give less in college) . 10 was 9.6 I guess.

Will ask to some mba folks too. Again thanks

Will doing maths or something by nios a good idea or meeting eligibility will still put me in non prefered zone as compared to engineering and commerce grads.

Or sticking to hr as high pay or hospital or something management be good.

But mbbs and even bds be preferred in hospital ones.

And hr will again have preference to commerce or engineering.

Let me ask this doubt to some mba folks too. Thanks

Thanks. I researched about Mba colleges and their eligibility. Many of them are looking for maths or stats or business maths at 12th and many also have preference for commerce grads and some exclusive for engineering lot.

Should I only try in healthcare mba or hospital mba.

Or I should try in top colleges like iim, fms and tiss, xlri and not worry about being discriminated for being biology background.

I am 90+ school, 60+ college (medical course give less marks) .

Worried about age discrimination, male gender and background suitability as non eng or commerce.

There is a simple reason why the concerned students will not be expelled. First, they will challenge the decision in court and cost the university a bomb in legal fees. Second, their motto will be “If I come down, you come down with me.“ In other words, they will expose all the wrongdoings that have been happening, both that admin level and SJA level. They will do this on social media, write to their local MLA, et cetera. So that’s why they will get away scot free.