Comparing NLUD to GNLU or NLUJ is laughable. Where is NLUJ’s Rhodes? Where are GNLU’s regular foreign vac schemes? Both of them are much older too, mind you. Don’t waste time arguing just because you couldn’t crack the AILET and could never get the ticket to NLUD, NLUD is literally the only true NLU left in this country without some domicile reservation and massive batch size. As far as graduate outcomes go, it’s hands down superior to every NLU except the older 3 and that too only in respect of corporate placements. And the faculty is still superior to every NLU except NLS. Maybe you’ve forgotten that the NLUJ and NALSAR VCs are still permanent faculty members of NLUD.

I feel bad for Gen Z. An entire generation whose brains have been poisoned by online toxicity, be it from the right or the left. Andrew Tate, incels, Trump fanboys, Modi fanboys, Hamas fanboys, misogynists, racists, fringe woke Maoists… this is what they grew up with. 😔 The world is now hoping that the next generation can be saved, but it may be too late.

https://www.barandbench.com/news/madras-high-court-bats-for-australia-like-law-banning-social-media-for-kids-under-16

Nepo kids traditionally went to GLC or abroad. Now they go to Jindal or abroad. But the big change is that the children of NLSIU alumni are the new generation of nepo kids. They are studying alongside children of the old guard senior counsels and law firm owners. Thus, the present nepo generation is twice as large as the older one. Once the children of other NLU alumni turn 18, the nepo generation will probably be 10 times as large! They will all graduate from IB schools with very different mindsets as their middle-class parents (who too will become upper class elites).

The other day I met an NLSIU alum who said he will advise his son not to even sit for CLAT and instead do a dual BALLB-JD from Jindal and the US. I’ve even met NLSIU alumni from reserved category backgrounds being snooty and saying they want their kids to study abroad, rather than with “common” children (words to that effect). Twenty years from now, thousands of NLU alumni will be thinking like this.

I can’t help but wonder if this will impact recruitments down the line? Children of NLU alumni will obviously get preference in recruitments. So will we be in a situation where all recruits are graduates of foreign universities or Jindal? And maybe international law firms may even prefer foreign grads over Indian ones?

I was working there till recently and here's what it is:

- the place has has a tremendous culture historically and the impact and results still show, albeit much lower than earlier. This is the good part

- some teams have really nice seniors like corp team which flows a sense of calmness

- senior folks are here as retirement homes and hence their hunger to get in more work and do more work is limited. This hurts at times because lower work and hence more non billables

- compensation, firm management etc is decided solely by the old man, no matter what they keep saying. They made a couple of senior folks incharge but he took back decision making the min he didn't like something. So that's à battle you can't win - and everyone will agree with you on this internally but still nothing will change.

- the tax hit is pretty real.

So while the culture is good (which is what you'll hear of a lot from others) , the money on paper is good (not the post tax stuff) - there are enough red flags which you should consider - most important being lack of transparency and fairness which starts pinching more and more as you get even slightly senior.

A recent hiring post by NN for Associate roles drew attention for its unconventional entry requirement, an essay on “Piracy of the Public Domain”, coupled with the applicant’s understanding of technology law and law’s interaction with society.

Conceptually, the approach is sound but i have heard reports of nearly 1,600 applications and his post is silent on timelines or shortlisting criteria.

More troubling was the disclosure that an individual allegedly advertised essay-writing services for INR 12,000 on a freelancing platform.

With all these things, how likely is a 0PQE even competing with 3PQE? What are the alternatives that exist?

One suggestion- please make sure to give her some work in the beginning with unreasonable deadlines, uneconomical quotes for the sake of “relationship”, hell- give her urgent work on Friday evening, which is due Monday morning. Basically, make her life extremely difficult before you dump her. That way you can als justify to your management (should they ask why was xyz dumped).

International opportunities in Dubai and Singapore after 3 years of experience / SA level without doing an LL.M or writing a foreign bar exam. Probably have to get recognition for good work on deals which open up referrals to lateral abroad.

London / US opportunities need at least LL.M. and a whole lot of luck. Not sure if solely working with recruiters helps move into these markets.

Easiest to lateral into M&A / General Corporate at A1 level since junior experience in transactional practices is very transferable. At A2 level you might have to discount some experience.

Source: I moved after an LL.M.

I am currently an SA at a Tier 3. Got an offer from a Tier 1. But they are willing to take me as an Associate only. Plus, the pay they are offering is marginally more than what I currently make and far less than what a freshly recruited A0 at the said Tier 1 would make. What to do ?

I worked with Lawsikho for nearly 2 years and here's my honest feedback.

So I joined Lawsikho as an intern in their Test - Prep team back in January 2022 where I was responsible for preparing mocks, daily GK Quizzes, Notes etc., for even Judiciary and SEBI - Law Officer level exams. Yes, you read it right! A 3rd year law student, that too from a very average private college preparing the material you rely upon for cracking exams when you paid more than 1 Lakh for their courses.

You must be thinking that for all this hassle, I would be getting at least 10K per month as stipend. Well no, I got barely 5K per month, and if I took a leave for 1 day, I would lose out on my pay. In late 2022, when I asked for pay revision, I was told that I'd be getting 8K per month but I'd have to work for 7 hours daily, 30 days a month without any leave and if I failed to "justify" my 7 hour output, I would have to take a pay reduction.

Guess what? I never took that increment and finally left the organisation in late 2023 with the same pay (5K) which I was drawing at the beginning of my tenure, working 5-6 hours per day and preparing material for courses worth lakhs!

▮▮▮

bombay has terrible culture when it comes to salary. You will really get fucked up on that part , many times seniors falt out dont pay their juniors. delhi has better salary culture but they are both shitholes for a first generation lawyer and youll have to struggle a lot. IN delhi its easier to get around and the rent will be cheaper ( plus you get to stay around courts ) having the apex court of the country i feel delhi may give you more room to grow. But if youre interested in something like maritime law naturally bombay is the better option.. best of luck brother !

"Grilled" is not the right word. The judgment is wrong, but Arnab has failed to point out why. He also fails to rebut any of the points raised by Gavai. Which is just dishonest, because it should not be that difficult. For instance, Gavai says if you read the operative paragraph of our judgment, we have said no more licenses until policy is framed. In response Arnab just starts reading what is precautionary principle. Kya lena dena? Why not say it clearly, confront him on those points, rather than just saying random things in anger?

how are different kind of legal internships interpreted by professionals once they see the CV.

for example I need to know in general how are legal internship done under a company- any company- be it very well known not so well known but a well established one - judged! in comparison to a corporate internship done at a tier 3 or 4 firm?
eg- one company- addidas other company- some fertilizer company

in addition to that
an comparison of an internship done with an arbitration firm or an corporate litigation internship - which will be more effective on a CV when applying for a tier 1 or 2 corporate firms???

1. Why LLM karle ? Why not MBA ?

2. LLM karna hai toh better option ? Abroad or India ?

3. India, toh better kaunsa hai ? Central university or NLUs?

4. NLUs toh kaunsa ? Tier 1 or 2 or 3?

5. LLM karne ke baad academia? Research? Corporate? Judiciary? Litigation?

6. Non-NLU se NLU LLM fayda dega ?

7. LLM mei kaunsa specialisation best hai ?

8. Tax, Maritime, Cyber, Arbitration ka LLM worth hai ya bs niche hai ?

9. PhD bhi karle ? Same all above questions applicable.

10. Postdoc bhi karle ? Same all above questions applicable.

P.S. I am the MBA karle wala guy.

greetings lovely legal professions, im a 12th grader who just got rodded in CLAT and got rank 82X. Right now im in a big dilemma, i have no idea about which college to pick, and i need your help for this, the options i have listed down so far though are-
NUJS- BSC LLB
NUJS BA LLB- NRI SPONSORED (50 lakh but i can pay)
NLUO
HNLU
SLS PUNE
im comfortable with paying 50 lakh for the NRI SPONSORED fee for NUJS, but idk if its worth it... 50 lakh for BA over bsc?? i genuinely dont have any idea, but i need y'alls opinion on this, also i think WBNUJS BSC LLB is my brightest option so far, i mean, NUJS is NUJS end of day, and they dont differentiate much bw bsc and ba while placing, or so i've heard.
NLUO is my next best option, heard its improving fast af, and its better than HNLU and sls
id really appreciate you legal professions helping a 12th grader start a career, thank you

My two cents -

(a) you need to distinguish between your anxieties (constant fear of getting fired or getting threats of being fired, miscommunication as to what the end deliverable will be, missing small things) and things that are actually problematic at your workplace (Getting reprimanded weekly for everything under the sun, not doing the work on weekend that I was asked to take up the next wednesday). If your anxieties are largely due to how you are treated in your team and the environment that you face day on day - then you have a problem. A place which strikes down your confidence for the wrong reasons and in a wrong way - is not worth working at (some humbling is part of professional life - e.g., when you meet someone who can solve a problem you are grappling with with ease - but that is fine). So take a call.

(b) There is always an adjustment period. If you are 6 months into the profession - you will make mistakes. You need to commit to learning from them and having a system through which they don't get repeated. But I would say, it is as much a responsibility of your seniors to mentor you with some compassion. By doing this, they are not doing samaj sewa- but rather ensuring that you become a contributor to the team's work (which also in the long run would benefit their bottom line). If your seniors don't understand this and you are not getting the required mentorship - please move to a different place. No point suffering as a broken person (& also not learning).

Hi, I have a call back internship with a T1 firm. I have an option to choose between TMT and white collar ( I did TMT internship first, got positive feedback, again did an internship in white collar got positive feedback in the same firm from this also). I am close to my mentor in one practise area TMT and can see myself getting an offer but I am more interested in white collar work, although my connections with the team is bare minimum at best. What should be the best way to go about this? Please help me out. Thankyou so much.

As they say big4 in consulting.. we can probably term a big6. Criteria is 1. competitive pay; 2. Offices in Del, Bom and BLR. 3. More than 75 partners.

In no particular order:

SAM

CAM

Trilegal

Khaitan

AZB

JSA (though less pay, quite a good name)

Thoughts?

I'm a millennial, and I experienced this from my boomer bosses and I saw my millennial colleagues becoming like this too. So I quit law firms and the law practice because of this exact reason.

This problem is absolutely true. At the fundamental level, the lack of sleep and work life balance causes these SAs, PAs, and partners to become lazy bosses and mentors.

They give lazy instructions and have absolutely no inclination or aptitude to be mentors. I remember a senior millennial boss of mine, expected A0s to know everything right out of law school. Chutiya himself didn't know law properly, and I now know gave wrong legal opinions. (Pls don't censor chutiya fully pls.) He didn't last long in the practice, and now sells snake oil - iykyk.

Not OP. But False equivalence.

1. There was no Aryan invasion but Aryan migration. Unlike major Christian Sects of India which was byproduct of British colonialism (Not talking about St Thomas Christians).

2. Most of Hinduism is Pre Vedic. With roots from IVC (pashupati, Naga worship, Peeples reverence, shivalinga, etc) and non IVC Prevedic cultures - like the Baghor Kali Yantra, and various mother goddesses.

3. There are much better points to advocate for celebrating Christians than trying to do a historically inaccurate Gotcha

Please spend more time in understanding the transaction and nuances of the business that you are advising. Many seniors don't know themselves how to solve the problems and they focus on billable hours instead which means you guys have to work a lot without proper instruction and/or understanding. That's why nowadays newly made Partners are failing to bring more clients. Hence, this frustration !

I am an A0 associate working with a boutique firm for the past six months. My work primarily involves PE/VC and general corporate advisory matters, with some exposure to other corporate mandates as well.

While the quality of work is good, the work environment has not been particularly supportive. My seniors are not toxic per se, but I am often left to fend for myself, with limited guidance on deliverables.

I want to move to a firm where I can rely on my seniors for guidance and mentorship. Pay is not a concern for me at this stage—learning is.

In this context, I would appreciate guidance on whether it would be advisable to start reaching out to recruiters to explore available options, or whether it would be better to wait and reassess after some more time.

I am from a TLC and reaching out to friends for opportunities is out of option.

I second this. One junior partner we report to has no social or personal life. She got promoted solely due to her lack of personal life and she proudly calls herself ▮▮▮ and ▮▮▮. People working with her suffer on account of her slow and inefficient working style and are worried that they will become like her one day. It’s difficult to learn under her since she is spaced out and lost most of the time. Due to her scary lifestyle and lack of work life balance she has aged severely and has become so very bitter, that she keeps taunting everyone hurling hurtful comments making her juniors feel very miserable. We juniors are fed up of her taunts and inefficient working style. She is not only toxic for her juniors but even for herself. There are other junior partners her level who handle complex transactions, and yet give equal importance to work and personal life. However this particular partner is preferred by the senior partners giving a clear message to the team that toxic behaviour and no regard to personal life will be preferred over capability and talent.

From the inception of NLSIU in the 1980s till the 2000s, NLUs were dominated by upper castes. The first effort to change this happened during the Manmohan Singh government, when caste reservation was increased. Now, a study by IIM Udaipur says this:

“This report shatters several widespread misconceptions about the social composition of students in Indian higher education,” said Prof. Krishnamurthy. “Contrary to the prevailing narrative, students from Scheduled Castes (SC), Scheduled Tribes (ST), and Other Backward Classes (OBC) overwhelmingly dominate enrolment and significantly outnumber General Category students.”

Although the study covered tens of thousands of universities in India, the micro-level data for NLUs is not clear. In addition to caste reservation, NLUs also have domicile reservation. This could end up benefiting upper castes.

Does anyone have any data from NLUs?

https://ianslive.in/reserved-quota-students-now-dominate-indian-higher-education-enrollment--20251203131440

I'm a 2026 batch student from a low tier NLU. No placement support from college. Only low paying opportunities come through the placement cell.

I have done more than quality internships without any references, all through myself. Received extremely GOOD feedbacks from all the places, did call backs twice at two different places, but did not hear anything from them regarding PPO.

No idea what I'm gonna do after graduation. Nothing against litigation, but I cannot start out on a 20k job for some personal reasons.

I'm not demoralised or anything like that, still have hopes that something will work out. Just leaving this here, to all fellow mates in a similar situation, if you have put in the effort to do quality internships, dw, something will work out at the end. Cheers :)

My senior associate gives me silent treatment after I mess up.

I mean you talk about professional environment and behave like a kid yourself, if I mess up. Come tell me about it, I think we should discuss it, no matter how bad, so that I know not to make it next time.

Apka friend, husband yaa family nhi hoon jo, silent treatment doge mreko :/

I would suggest you join the firm and see how things generally are. A lot of firms have flexible working hours, meaning you can leave early and continue working from home. Please consider the following things though:

1. A pet is a great stress buster when you get home from work.

2. Having a pet is like having a baby. Every decision you make (including thinking of going to a later night party or going for an office retreat) will need to consider 2 persons instead of 1 (yes - pets are persons, and have emotions).

3. If you're someone who's looking to enjoy bachelor / bachelorette life and the freedom you have once you get to Bengaluru - this may not be the best decision right now.

4. The initial phase at work may be tricky where you're having to work extra hard to impress your team. This may mean longer hours and more stress (not sure how you handle stress) which could also have an impact on your time / ability to take care of the baby.

You can of course consider fostering pets for a bit and take a call instead of adopting one on day 1 and try it out yourselves instead of asking a group here. If you think it's too much work - you can do this a couple of years later when you are more at ease with work.

Disclaimer - I have multiple pets and had the same issues you do currently. I got them 4 / 5 years after joining work. It's been 4 years and haven't regretted it for a day :)

People not making you feel welcome is a point that is not talked about enough. I worked for many years at a smaller firm and then moved to a T1. The biggest shock was how fake and forced the camaraderie in the T1 teams is. At my previous firm, it was almost an unwritten rule that our team had lunch together everyday sharing meals, conversations and a moment of calm in an otherwise chaotic day. Sadly, that fleeting moment among many other things is missing in my current significantly bigger firm. Though you may argue that the entire setup is more professional and polished as compared to the easy going environment at the smaller firm, it's almost as if the soul of the workplace feels buried beneath the fancy furniture at these big shiny offices.

I feel like (totally my personal opinion) in the race for a bigger paycheck and a bigger name on your CV, you lose out on the little things that made work bearable.

Ab toh bas ghar ka aaram chhodkar roz nikal padte hai, aaram kamaane:)

As a chamber junior with an SA, is the role largely around assisting in briefings and the hearings, etc or will I get exposure with drafting, end-to-end case management, client interaction, etc as well?

If the former is true, is it better to start with an AOR/ established litigator?

As a millennial, this is the exact reason why I quit the workforce. Absolutely no regard for human rights, decency, civility or sense. People laughed at me for being lazy when all I wanted was a clear work-life balance. Today, majority of them have health issues, sleep deprivation, loss of hair, stress etc. Whereas I am absolutely enjoying life. No doubt I am earning less, but I am also spending less in healthcare or medical issues.

NLS. Some of you need to start using your brains and stop this blind following if coaching and YouTube channels. NLS will remain the top for the next decade easily. Yea, for the second slot, it's up in the air on the preference between NLUD, NALSAR and NUJS. But for one, it will always be NLS.

Quals - NUJS and NALSAR (LLM)

It's easily the top tier 2. Also, focus on the law and technology part. HNLU is one of the few NLUs that is focusing on that intersection. If you still feel uneasy, you may give another attempt. But it's much better than nothing. If there is a top 10 NLU list, it's definitely in it. NLS, NLUD, NALSAR, NUJS, GNLU, NLUJ, NLIU, NLUO, HNLU and MNLU.

This tweet from a pro-BJP account. Is it true? What about older IITs?

IIT Gandhinagar’s students say: - Mandatory Humanities subjects removed for MTech; credits reduced for Btech - Syllabus redesigned to remove woke components - Department interviews (ideological screenings) scrapped for admission - MA admission solely based on GATE now - MA intake reduced to 20 from 40 - 2 intimidating woke faculties removed from positions

https://x.com/MehHarshil/status/2004027075603452168

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Oh, this is funny.

Some years into the profession now, and I’ve had my fair share of toxic bosses. But my first one? Truly a ▮▮▮.

Background:

She was a Senior Associate then. Competent at her work. As a mentor though, she was terrible. Work would be dumped on me with zero context, zero guidance. When I tried to figure things out on my own, I’d be met with absolute hellfire.

Her logic was simple: “My seniors never helped me. I figured it out on my own. You should too.”

Fair enough, mistakes happened, I owned them. The berating was understandable because it was understandable.

What was worse was the silent treatment that followed. Days of being ignored, no communication, no feedback, until suddenly everything was “normal” again. And then the cycle would repeat.Eventually, I moved to another firm with better mentors and a healthier environment.

Now:

I’m now in-house as a Senior Legal Counsel. She’s a Partner at another firm. And her firm is one of our regular external counsels forming a major part of her book.

The moment she realised I’d be her point of contact, I got a text: the usual polite small talk, followed by “hope whatever happened in the past is in the past and won’t affect our work.”

No, ma’am.

It’s very much my time to rain hellfire and make you miserable, of course before I take my business elsewhere.

Hi people of LI, hope everyone is doing great this festive season.

I have given a few internship interviews (around 3 to 4), but I keep fucking up and miss out on great opportunities. I blank out on utterly easy questions, which is embarrassing to think about post-interview.

This has really started affecting me and has brought me down. I have one interview next month, which I cannot screw up at any cost.

Any tips or advice (on what topics to cover for gen corp/M&A interviews) would be helpful. Really grateful, thanks.

Hey! I recently inquired about that lemme tell u

Their are few slabs of 10% ,25,50,75%

So basically scoring above 21 gonna get u 10

Which is 70000 per year till 5 years

Then above 26 it is 25% which is 1,75,000 per yr

Then above 30 it is 50% 350k and above 36 it is 75% which is 525000 per year till 5 years if maintain good gpa

If you won’t be living with family then it’s not a good idea to keep a pet. I work in tier 1 but I managed to keep a pet because I stay with family who act as a back up for the pet. Keeping your pet in an empty house or with house help will be very bad for the mental health and wellbeing of the pet (irrespective of whether you adopt a dog or a cat). Some people do manage to get a bonded pair( two pets of the same species who are attached to each other). However regardless of the specie or number of pets- you’ll have to spend time taking them for walks and/or to the vet. So if you decide to get a pet and if your partner or reporting senior hate animals, then you will be in a soup.