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1. Looked down upon by almost everyone - like it or not; there is a unsaid hierarchy in law where sc lawyers>hc lawyers>dist court lawyers. Tribunal lawyers stand at the very bottom
2. V less scope of senior designation - regardless wof what judgements say, this is true. Experienced it. Ask anyone around.. you dont practice in hc/sc - hardly any chance of getting semior gown
3. Very specialised - while it can be a plus, but all your eggs are in one basket being the tribunal..sc/hc lawyers who primiarly practice in hc and occassiomaly in other fora do better in this regard
As for 80 percent of legal work being done thru AI ...true, entire documents can be drafted by AI, they can clearly replicate the drafts of great books like tejoriwala, d'souza, or atkins, but then sir, someone has to correct it and all. Court work will.not go away. Lawyers are still needed. Substantial work will go yes. But still human level supervision would be needed. Useless clerical law firm work like mergers etc can go to Ai, but litigation not so easily and soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVKHx241Nzc
https://www.financialexpress.com/jobs-career/education-pms-economic-advisor-sanjeev-sanyal-calls-upsc-pursuit-a-complete-waste-of-time-why-he-said-so-4091750/
1. You’re not prepped enough: if you don’t know stuff, it’s inevitable you feel nervous. The only way to get over this is to actually prepare. For GenCorp, have a good understanding of the Companies Act, and Contract Act, including any caveats or special conditions. Transfer of Property Act is a bonus. The section numbers are ideal to know, but as long as you know the concept well it should still be fine.
2. You’re well prepared but not used to interviews: I think at this point this situation should have gotten better, but if not and you feel you’re prepared enough, I’d suggest making a one page summary of each of your interviews and questions so far from memory and see if there’s a common topic you messed up and work on it. You should also aim to practice answers in front of a mirror or have a friend or two take a few mock interviews. Another advice is to pretend you’re teaching the topic to someone else, so you become used to verbalising the things you know.
3. You’re over-prepared and take too much pressure: if you’re over-prepared, even the simplest question can throw you off since you think you should know each and everything. Here, instead of an exercise, you just need a mindset shift: understand that you don’t know everything and it’s fine, in fact it is expected of you to not know everything and fumble a few times. There’s nothing else to do about it- as long as you make peace with the fact that it’s okay to be incorrect, you’ll be able to remain calm and not feel the pressure to say and do everything correctly and not make it such a huge deal in your head (I know the past rejections make it difficult, but you just have to shift this mindset.) Also, remember they don’t want you to be perfect- they’re not assessing you on how much you know, but on how calm you are under pressure and how quickly you can adapt. In most of my interviews, there were technical questions which stumped me and someone I didn’t even know the basics. So whenever I didn’t know anything, I asked my interviewer to tell me what it was. Every time (yes, each and every time), they told me the concept and asked me to apply it or answer the question again with this additional knowledge, which I then did. It’s okay to not know things, it’s not okay to not want to know things and it’s the latter you should focus on.
All the best, I’m sure you’ll ace the next one!
- Does the Delhi and Noida team really not hire freshers?
- Hiring at the Mumbai office?
1. very true. grades are highly arbitrary (or in nls lingo- arbit) due to extreme sectional disparity. also, 'moderation' at nls is fucked. btw, 'moderation' is a mathematical formula that places students along the bell curve. the bell curve is quite steep, meaning that a few do very well, many do just well enough, and many more do poorly (for example. out of 200, 5-6 students will get an O, 10-15 will get an A+, 40-50 will get A, so on and so forth). so yes, batch rankings may be a problem, and you need to be willing to engage in relentless, ruthless competition with your batchmates if you want to come to NLS and have a good batch rank.
2. campus is tiny- there are no common/social spaces, 50% or more is under construction, and it is just one straight line (like someone else mentioned). the last is the biggest problem- you can literally walk from the start of the campus (gate zero) till its end (gate four) and see everything there is to see. there is no campus life whatsoever, cause everyone is too busy studying or abusing substances.
also- keep in mind that this is a campus meant for 400 people (5 batches of 80 each) and now currently has 1200+. so we are three times over maximum capacity (this has led to worsening living conditions for those lucky enough to be on campus. many have been provided accommodation outside campus as there is not enough space in the hostels). but i cant lie, the hostel life is amazing, very fun, and the community is super tight knit. but the tight knitedness of the community is also fading due to the above reasons.
all in all, i went to nalsar for trilaterals last year- so i have stayed on both campuses. NALSAR's campus and campus life is much much much better. not even comparable to NLS.
3. yes, it will make it more difficult. but those same students will be competing for ur jobs even if ur in nalsar so honestly this is a misplaced concern imo.
4. yes. not much personal time or time for a robust social life. you'll have friends ofc, but pls forget whatever fantastical college life you have otherwise imagined for yourself. most time will be spent in class, or studying. this is, of course, only if academics are a priority for you. many choose not to succumb to the academic pressure and study all the time (these are, unfortunately, the people who get backlogs or year losses). the bottomline is that within 3 months you are expected to do 4 courses (each course having enough syllabus for a 6 month semester, being taught in 2.5 months or less). these 4 courses each have class participation, term papers, mid terms, in-class assignments, end terms, and many other evaluation components that keep you occupied throughout the trimester. in addition to this, if you decide to do moot courts (you should) or other extracurriculars, there goes the rest of your time. so yes, the NLS trimester is a constant and unforgiving demand on your time.
based on the above considerations, and even generally, let me tell very unequivocally that you will have a better college life in NALSAR. The campus life is better, the community is better, the NALSAR campus itself is vast and beautiful. their hostels are also nice. there will be far lesser academic pressure, and you will still get similar opportunities with internships and moots.
but let me tell you something else as well- others on this thread have touched upon this, when they spoke about the superiority of the NLS faculty. which is- the quality of education you will receive in NLS is unparalleled within India (the only real competitor here being Jindal, because they can afford to pay the biggest scholars a lot of money). yes, the trimester system is hectic. yes, it is hard to have a good batch rank. yes, the academic rigour is stifling. but pressure makes diamonds, and that is the principal value that the NLS system provides. it moulds you into a competent and capable law student and future professional.
there is a palpable, not ostensible, difference between an NLS grad and a NALSAR grad. not because NLS students are better than NALSAR students, but rather because the NLS academic system is more effective at producing advocates capable of studying and synthesising large amounts of legal information under high pressure, within tight timelines. this does not mean that there are no NALSAR students that are WAY more competent than NLS students (surely there are), but rather that, on average, the NLS student is more competent than his counterparts from other NLUs.
so my advice to you being this- what makes NALSAR better than NLS is precisely what makes it worse (and vice versa). the decision that YOU have to make is what you value, both in the short term (next 5 years of college) and also long term (next 10-25 years). i honestly wish i had gone to NALSAR, cause I am someone who would thrive better in a chiller, calmer environment. the rigour of NLS has made me anxious and depressive. but at the same time, I have never felt smarter and sharper in my life. that being said, I would still choose going to NALSAR if i were given the choice again, simply because my values are different (i don't value success at all costs. i would rather have had a nice, chill 5 years of college)
Can someone suggest the best law firms in Bangalore where I can learn the nuances of litigation to the core with proper mentorship and guidance?
1. Working past 9pm is failure, not a flex. Look, there will be genuine emergencies. Deals close, courts have deadlines, shit happens. But if you're consistently working past 9pm, either you're terrible at managing your time or someone's taking advantage of you. Neither is something to be proud of. I've seen too many associates wear their all-nighters like medals. It's not impressive, it's concerning. The best lawyers I know are efficient and have boundaries. The ones bragging about working till 3am are either disorganized or have nothing else going on in their lives. Don't become that person.
2. You need to push back sometimes. This is hard when you're junior but it's essential. Some seniors will test you with unreasonable demands - draft needed by morning when they've sat on it for a week, "urgent" calls at 11pm that could've been an email. You have to learn when to push back. Not rudely, but firmly. "I can get this to you by tomorrow afternoon" instead of scrambling at midnight. Most bullies respect people who stand their ground. The ones who don't aren't worth working for anyway. Obviously pick your battles, but don't be a doormat.
3. Don't skip meals. If you're regularly skipping lunch or dinner to meet deadlines, you're doing something wrong. Either your planning is off or your senior is unreasonable. Your body isn't optional. I've seen associates genuinely proud of not eating all day to finish a draft. That's also not impressive and your body will begin showing signs of discontent very soon, some of it irreversible. Any senior who expects you to skip meals for work is a bad senior. Period. Tell them you need 30 minutes to eat. The draft will survive.
4. It's okay to do the bare minimum sometimes. Yes I said it. As long as your work ethic is solid overall, there will be days/weeks where you phone it in. God knows I do. Not every deal deserves your soul. Not every partner deserves 110% effort. Learn to identify which matters actually need your A-game and which ones just need competent work. Save your energy for things that matter to YOU - your health, your relationships, your life outside work.
5. Remember what this job actually is Here's something that took me years to accept - our work isn't that important. If every law firm shut down tomorrow, would the world be worse off? Probably not. We're not doctors, we're not teachers, we're not building anything. We help companies move money around and we draft documents. That's it. The money's good and the work can be interesting, but it's not your identity. I've watched too many talented people get consumed by this job, sacrifice their health and relationships, and for what? To make partner at 35 instead of 38? Law firms are golden handcuffs. Biglaw can be valuable experience and the money helps. Just don't lose yourself in it. Set boundaries early, push back when needed, and remember there's an entire life outside those glass towers. The documents will get done either way.
So NLUJ has a great reputation, their moot/journal culture is legit impressive. But since you're still figuring out what you want from law, I think GNLU might actually be better for you. The relaxed academics at GNLU aren't just about chilling (though that's ofc a bonus lol). You get actual time to explore stuff - internships during semester, moots, startups, whatever. I knew people who used that bandwidth to figure out what they genuinely liked instead of just grinding through coursework. The culture is also just less stressful? People aren't constantly competing in an unhealthy way.
My batchmates who ended up in top firms or good roles weren't necessarily the ones with perfect grades. They were the ones who used the flexibility to build real skills and network properly. GNLU gives you that space. NLUJ's intense schedule works if you thrive under pressure and know your path. But if you're still exploring, that intensity can be counterproductive. You'll spend all your energy keeping up with classes and tests instead of actually figuring out what interests you.
Employment wise - GNLU's corp outcomes are really strong now. The gap with NLUJ has narrowed a lot. Yeah they might have an edge in some international placements but unless you're sure about that, doesn't matter much. Honestly, if you're self driven and want freedom to explore, go for GNLU. City's great, and you won't graduate completely burnt out.
Today, the ▮▮▮ is working abroad as a financial lawyer, boasting on LinkedIn about advising offshore entities - tax evasion by another name! And this guy used to rant against “neoliberalism” in college and criticise Nehru for not being socialist enough and for not aligning with Mao. 🙄
infrastructure wise we're definitely better than most other nlus. library's good, hostel facilities are okayish, campus is well maintained. ofc there's minor flaws here and there but nothing major to complain about compared to what I've heard from friends in other nlus. Gandhinagar as a city is really clean and safe which is a huge plus. It's for sure not as happening as delhi or bangalore but it's peaceful and you can focus on academics/internships without too many distractions. Employability is at an all time high right now. Placement stats have been pretty solid, lots of good firms coming in, and alumni network is getting stronger. So if you're worried about job prospects after graduation, gnlu's in a decent place rn
Manifesting that job in 2030, when I know I am a better lawyers and can contribute better to my organisation than I am doing currently.
Anyway, even if they don’t comply with BCI rules, you have children of senior ministers in this law school, while politicians across party lines dance at the owner’s daughter’s wedding. 🤣🤣🤣 Who will dare to act against them?
May I know the reason why you are making the switch.
https://jgu.edu.in/cpgls/special-pathways/
from the website I can find that for BA/BBA LLB + JD its 5 + 2, instead of normal 5 + 3
BCI has a clear rule that not more than 6 months of credit can be transferred back to any law degree, so the max time that one may spend in US is 2.5 years, how do they get credit for extra 6 months in the US (as surely Cornell will not allow for Indian law degree to be counted)?
Can someone who has gone through this path explain please
any advice would be really appreciated! thanks
I joined as an A0 in July and it is too much to bear, I have started taking anxiety meds because of work and would really want to switch, I don’t mind the long hours but can’t deal with the toxicity of my seniors, so how does one switch early in the profession
What I have seen with new partners overloading a team of new associates is lack of communication is mostly with respect to deliverables. You can’t expect a team of freshers to take up a deal end to end. You need to define the scope of work for them atleast in the first 6-7 months before they can jump into matters independently.
I had a newly promoted partner and his A0s left within 3 months because of this issue only, no properly defined scope
How many students from top NLUs get placed? 3-5 students in each of these schools. Meanwhile jgls, which was also my option for law, Has limited information regarding where their graduates are working and from what we know most of em are working in top Indian law firms, but becoming a solicitor after job experience and LLM foundations.
Also, the MC and SC put emphasis highly on recruiting those who have been to UK universities (who are providing) LLM, LLB, MLAW, etc) because of these university's connections through their MoUs.
Another factor yall are avoiding is that these law firms prefer those who have done UK LLB more than who has done LLB or BA/BBA LLB.
Also don't lose hope as long as you have a good job experience, win a few moot court competitions, mentor who have connections and can give reference for you at a firm, multiple vacation schemes (IMPORTANT) and the biggest and the most important factor of all...PASS YOUR SQE EXAM FOR GOD SAKE. If you want a training contract, its better if you pass SQE 1 exam in you 3rd year of LLB or 4th year of BALLB and do your QWE for SQE during training contract (including internships, clinical work or vacation schemes).
Also if get an opportunity to do vacation schemes at an MC or SC, make sure to perform your best with your experience and NETWORK for future reference, it's said you have done well in your VC then you will get a TC at the same law firm. However, it's recommended to do it in your 3rd year of 5 year program or 2nd year of LLB as you may have gained better experience from your past interships to help you during VC.
The second wave of legal AI is going to be more interesting, as the latest models have developed agentic and long horizon capabilities that can lend themselves to easily replacing the work of an A0/A1. That's yet to come though.
https://x.com/talk2anuradha/status/2004896933438206008/
and does anyone have an idea regarding hiring for final year law students because a lot of final year law students including myself have applied - so basically the form initially had an option for final year law student to apply for A0 but when on the final day of submission i checked, they changed it to recent graduates, i applied anyways because i had alr written the article and preped my cv....
Please, if anyone could answer this.
Thumping success
I want people who have tea on what is the current situation. Has AI taken away firm jobs? (Seeing lesser hires every year nowadays as well)
Rohini Lakshané, a researcher on technology and digital rights, said Bandar Apna Dost’s popularity most likely stems from its absurdity, its hyper-masculine tropes and the fact that it lacks a plot, which makes it accessible to new viewers."
Bandar Apna Dost makes close to 40 crores??? Gawd I miss the old days of cringe-free, chhapri-free internet..... 😔
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/dec/27/more-than-20-of-videos-shown-to-new-youtube-users-are-ai-slop-study-finds
Tell me about your stories where you were staffed with great lawyers, someone who knew their shit but were literally not so great mentors.
AFAIK CS50 courses start with teaching you about very low level coding languages and will slowly build up on how to use AI to automate your coding related tasks. Don't think it will help you much in vibe coding. Maybe try using lovable if you want you only try your hand on vibe coding
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Make sure you do not commit the same mistake when you lead a team. When you are approaching partnership, its easy to fall into the trap of revenue pressures, trying to overload a team with new associates to keep costs low and snapping frequently because work quality drops. Finding the balance, mentoring your colleagues and leading with emotional maturity is a tricky task which takes time to develop. As will you.
I try my best to do all this but often do fail. All I can say is, introspect as much as possible and then come to what is a balanced and good decision for you and how you develop as a person/leader in the future. Its the only way we can change the frequent toxicity we find in this profession. Not by running away from it.
a one or two is always exception but in 90% chance you need high level of juggad.
nishant.thakkar@lumierelp.com for DT Mumbai
2. Anywhere, just degree matters.
3. Same as above Ans. 2
4. Ans. 2
5. Everything possible. Even PhD in Entire Political Science.
6. Definitely. Major advantage is low cost.
7. General LLM
8. Everything has its own value.
9. I'll go further with Postdoc.
10. Ans. 9
P.S. I too have done MBA.
My best wishes.
LLM is for classy people out there.
Feel the difference.
Izzat bahut kamai hai
Flat, excluding taxes
Now as far as institutional bias is concerned, let's be real it's there everywhere (Firms, Chambers, In house, Think tank or wherever you go). And I do not blame them, because using the institutional reputation as a proxy for judging competence is a low effort and somewhat reliable way for employers. The truth is on an average (I'm not talking about outliers) NLU folks are likely to do better than non-NLU folks.
However, being someone who was getting into an NLU outside of the top 10, but chose to stick to NON-NLU for convenience and financial reasons; in my first year of college I realised that rather than pointing fingers at the system, you should focus on finding a way around it. Even If I think that the NLU vs. NON NLU bias is unfair, it is still going to be there.
However, the most important thing to understand is just because it exists does not mean that you cannot offset it. I know people from non-NLUs (like Private Unis in Maharashtra or ALS Delhi) and were 1st gen, but are still working in chambers of the top Sr Advs in SCs. One of them did a clerkship. The other did his LLM from abroad (does not necessarily mean that you must also do clerkship / LLM. But I'm just saying that people have done this and you need to make a considered decision based on your circumstances).
Other than that, I would say a lot people go deep down the rabbit hole trying to have items on their CV which they 'think' would look impressive or boost their profile (Internships, Moots, Publication, Certifications and what not). Sure, a good CV is a valuable asset to have and in some cases might help you get your foot in the door. But focus on improving your actual skills and competence.
As harsh as it may sound it is easy for me to say “Oh! I am as competent as they are – I just could not get into these places because I’m not from an NLU” However, it requires a certain degree of self-awareness to realise the discomforting truth that all I have been doing in law school is using ChatGPT and PPTs to somehow pass or even ace the exam but I am not gaining any real knowledge. If I am given a niche research question, I would probably not be confident navigating through it without AI. A 6000 page file with voluminous evidence and a big fat case compendium, would probably scare tf out of me.
Do the work, and get progressively better at it. Whatever area you are interested in, have deep subject matter knowledge about it. Have great speaking and writing skills. Even if you somehow manage to get you foot in places like these if you can’t do these three things it would be difficult for you to sustain. Give the world irrefutable proof of your competency and ability so that none can ever use your college as an excuse to question your competence
I think it was Carl Jung who said that “No matter how isolated you are and how lonely you feel, if you do your work truly and conscientiously, unknown allies will come and seek you”. Sorry I my message was harsh or if I went off topic; built I only intended to send a message to all the NON-NLU folks folks. Don't kill your ambition; work towards it. Never feel disappointed that you’re not in an NLU. As NF himself said it “it’s the lows in life that makes us cherish the heights, and if that’s not the case then I’m fine believing a lie” Stay positive, and enjoy the journey ;)