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NUJS is supposed to have a convocation after 5 years or so. Still a mystery why successive Chancellors after Lalit as CJI stayed away and also did not depute a rep while NKC was the VC.
But Farishta facing trouble? Isn't he God sent?
1. Should be a full service law firm
2. Should be one of the highest paymaster
3. Should have a Knowledge Management team
4. Should have offices at Del, Mum, and BLR
So what I'm wondering is can I practice during this same time? Like is it allowed? Cos LLM is a full course degree. And if I just make few court visits and get my name on a Vakalatnama is that enough?
I'll graduate this year and I think AIBE will be held this June or July? If I clear it then am I eligible for practice while pursuing LLM?
The phrasing of "continuous practice" for 3yr judiciary experience rule is kind of ambiguous i think.
Also is working as a Law Clerk in the NCLT or any other semi autonomous Judicial bodies counted? Or is only law clerk under HC or SC judges counted?
I also looked at State Public Prosecutor exams but looks like they aren't held annually and the next set of exams are 1-2yrs later.
I'm deliberating what my best choice of action is. Should I join a litigation firm or try applying to Gen Corp teams? I reckon the actual work involved won't be too difficult to learn minus the hectic schedule. But then I'll have to close Judiciary as a career path.
As a last option i can do an LLM and prepare for govt exams.
Which would work out as a better career path with actual progression?
Please help me out.
NLS students don't get any physical externship opportunities given their highly demanding schedule, so incumbents should not be told that such things happen.
As for the marking disparity, that's still very real. If a teacher teaches one section and frames questions for 5 sections and also marks them on that question, then obviously there is going to be disparity, since only one section will be truly aware of his expectations. When all the teachers do the same, you may argue that the overall disparity also gets distributed, with every section suffering in the process, but it's not really a mathematical calculation. So disparity will remain. But bigger universities or TLCs also have had the same issue traditionally.
The faculty quality part is spot on. NLSIU is currently very much ahead of other universities in that regard. The only issue is that the faculty keep complaining about being overworked and unable to pursue their own research. Several people have even quit on those grounds. Not sure why, since NLSIU keeps recruiting regularly every year. Maybe the rate of expansion is too fast.
Anand, Singh & Singh for IPR.
Boutiques such as Keystone, Fox and Mandal, SKV also have decent court work.
Everyone wants to feel good about their choices/situation/workplace on LI and will classify their Firm as the real Tier 1 ;)
The more detailed characterisation of their relationship comes instead from documents released later, including correspondence attributed to Chomsky that was obtained and reported by The Guardian and others following disclosures to the House Oversight Committee.
In one such letter, Chomsky wrote that he had met Epstein several years earlier and that they had since been in “regular contact”, with “many long and often in-depth discussions about a very wide range of topics”. He described these exchanges as “a most valuable experience for me”
The same correspondence records Chomsky thanking Epstein for explaining the “intricacies of the global financial system”, suggesting that Epstein provided insights unavailable in mainstream business journalism or academic literature.
The documents also describe Epstein acting as a facilitator. In one instance, Epstein reportedly arranged a call with a Norwegian diplomat involved in the Oslo Accords. In another, he helped arrange a meeting with former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, a figure Chomsky had written about critically.
Epstein also offered Chomsky access to his residences in New York and New Mexico. It is not publicly established whether those offers were accepted. There was also a financial link. In 2018, approximately $270,000 was transferred to Chomsky from an account associated with Epstein. Chomsky has publicly stated that this money was his own, routed through Epstein-linked accounts while reorganising shared funds after the death of his first wife, and that it “did not involve one penny from Epstein”.
That explanation stands unless contradicted. What is undisputed is that a financial transaction occurred. Taken together, the record shows repeated contact, logistical cooperation, and written expressions of appreciation. It does not show criminal complicity. It does show a relationship that extended well beyond a chance encounter.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/manufacturing-consent-decoding-jeffrey-epsteins-friendship-with-noam-chomsky-after-release-of-new-photos/amp_articleshow/126075530.cms
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Placements for Law students at the National Forensic Sciences University (NFSU) are currently in a "pioneer phase." Because the School of Law, Forensic Justice, and Policy Studies was established relatively recently (around 2021), the first batches of the 5-year integrated programs (like B.Sc.1 LL.B. and B.B.A. LL.B.) have not yet fully graduated as of late 2025.
However, based on the university’s overall performance and early trends from the Law school, here is what you can expect:
### 1. Placement Outlook & Trends
- Pioneer Batches: Since the senior-most students are just reaching their final year, there is no historical "average package" specifically for Law yet.
- Interdisciplinary Advantage: NFSU Law students have a unique edge in Cyber Law, Data Science & Law, and Forensic Justice. This makes them highly attractive to specialized departments in Tier-1 law firms, tech companies, and forensic labs.
- Corporate Interest: Recruiters who already visit NFSU for MBA and M.Tech (like Deloitte, EY, KPMG, PwC, and Grant Thornton) have forensic and legal compliance wings. It is expected that these firms will be the primary recruiters for Law graduates.
### 2. Internship Support
The university has been very active in building its Internship Assistance Cell.
- Current Placements: Students have successfully secured internships at Tier-1 law firms, senior advocates, and government organizations.4
- Specialized Roles: Many students are landing roles as In-house Counsel interns, research associates, and legal consultants focusing on technology and crime.5
- Stipends: While early-year internships are often unpaid, senior students have reported receiving stipends ranging from ₹20,000 to ₹30,000 per month in corporate legal roles.
### 3. Comparison with Other NFSU Courses
To give you an idea of the university's placement "muscle," here are the 2024–2025 statistics for allied fields (MBA/M.Tech):
- Highest Package: ₹16 LPA (MBA) to ₹67 LPA (Cyber Security).
- Average Package: Around ₹6 LPA – ₹12 LPA depending on the specialization.
- Placement Rate: Approximately 78% to 85% across established departments.
### 4. Key Recruiters (Potential for Law)
Given the university's MOUs and existing recruiter base, the following types of organizations are expected to hire Law graduates:
- Big 4 Consulting: EY, Deloitte, KPMG, PwC (for Forensic Audit & Legal Compliance).
- Law Firms: Firms specializing in IP, Cyber Law, and White Collar Crime.
- Public Sector: Opportunities in government forensic labs and investigative agencies.
- Tech Giants: Companies like Microsoft and Amazon for policy and legal roles.
### Summary Table
FeatureStatus for Law StudentsFirst Graduating BatchAround 2025–2026Primary StrengthCyber Law, Digital Forensics, Data Science & LawInfrastructureHigh-tech classrooms, specialized labs (Moot Court facilities are developing)Recruitment StatusActive internship cell; campus placements starting soon
HRe are incredibly particular when it comes to internships, and if you're not in the top 15-20 ish, there's a really low chance you will get an internship.
For recruitments, they do tend to look beyond just grades and see you as a whole. Your cv must however have other things that can act a testament to your work. You would also need to justify your cgpa
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Placements for Law students at the National Forensic Sciences University (NFSU) are currently in a "pioneer phase." Because the School of Law, Forensic Justice, and Policy Studies was established relatively recently (around 2021), the first batches of the 5-year integrated programs (like B.Sc.1 LL.B. and B.B.A. LL.B.) have not yet fully graduated as of late 2025.2
However, based on the university’s overall performance and early trends from the Law school, here is what you can expect:
### 1. Placement Outlook & Trends
- Pioneer Batches: Since the senior-most students are just reaching their final year, there is no historical "average package" specifically for Law yet.
- Interdisciplinary Advantage: NFSU Law students have a unique edge in Cyber Law, Data Science & Law, and Forensic Justice. This makes them highly attractive to specialized departments in Tier-1 law firms, tech companies, and forensic labs.
- Corporate Interest: Recruiters who already visit NFSU for MBA and M.Tech (like Deloitte, EY, KPMG, PwC, and Grant Thornton) have forensic and legal compliance wings. It is expected that these firms will be the primary recruiters for Law graduates.
### 2. Internship Support
The university has been very active in building its Internship Assistance Cell.
- Current Placements: Students have successfully secured internships at Tier-1 law firms, senior advocates, and government organizations.4
- Specialized Roles: Many students are landing roles as In-house Counsel interns, research associates, and legal consultants focusing on technology and crime.5
- Stipends: While early-year internships are often unpaid, senior students have reported receiving stipends ranging from ₹20,000 to ₹30,000 per month in corporate legal roles.
### 3. Comparison with Other NFSU Courses
To give you an idea of the university's placement "muscle," here are the 2024–2025 statistics for allied fields (MBA/M.Tech):
- Highest Package: ₹16 LPA (MBA) to ₹67 LPA (Cyber Security).
- Average Package: Around ₹6 LPA – ₹12 LPA depending on the specialization.
- Placement Rate: Approximately 78% to 85% across established departments.
### 4. Key Recruiters (Potential for Law)
Given the university's MOUs and existing recruiter base, the following types of organizations are expected to hire Law graduates:
- Big 4 Consulting: EY, Deloitte, KPMG, PwC (for Forensic Audit & Legal Compliance).6
- Law Firms: Firms specializing in IP, Cyber Law, and White Collar Crime.
- Public Sector: Opportunities in government forensic labs and investigative agencies.
- Tech Giants: Companies like Microsoft and Amazon for policy and legal roles.7
### Summary Table
FeatureStatus for Law StudentsFirst Graduating BatchAround 2025–2026Primary StrengthCyber Law, Digital Forensics, Data Science & LawInfrastructureHigh-tech classrooms, specialized labs (Moot Court facilities are developing)Recruitment StatusActive internship cell; campus placements starting soon
I am fresher with 4-5 months experience in the banking and finance team and I wish to change my practice area to general corporate. I want to stay at KCo only and make an internal shift if possible. I know this option exists but am not sure how many times it has been exercised successfully.
I am very skeptical about asking my partner about it as I am not sure whether it will be taken positively or be detrimental to my job.
I really am not enjoying it and i know it is the best time to make a decision as I have just started.
I need urgent help tbh. If someone has gone through the same route please guide me, I feel stuck at this point of time.
I’m a first generation aspiring Law professional from Mumbai. From past trends, MNLU seems real but I’m keen to leave Mumbai.
Seeing all the new courses BSc LLB, BBA LLB etc from higher up NLUs like NUJS, GNLU, JNLU are confusing. Are they worth it? An earlier post mentioned discrimination…
Should I consider SLS Pune if I get it?
I’m quite an extrovert with some Mooting and debating experience from school ( Doubt it really counts here) and not afraid to toil. Any advice for a junior would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
- Contacts
- English skills and smartness
- Looks (for girls): an unfortunate reality in our society that is not unique to India
- SIR will remove false voters in swing constituencies -- we should not focus on the total number deleted, but focus on the number deleted in each swing constituency.
- The Muslim vote may be split by AIMIM and Humayun Kabir in some seats.
- Secular Hindus voting for the Left may switch to the BJP because they are fed up with the TMC
- Consolidation of Hindu votes for the BJP, because of attacks on Hindus in Bangladesh
I think you will see the power brokers at NUJS being very quiet for the next few months. The action will begin only after the results come out. If there is a change, some will switch sides and some will be removed. Some may literally land up in jail if the ED/CBI is set upon them (at least three people in the governing bodies have already been raided or questioned by central agencies).
Also, the VC is not an ideological person like Faizan Mustafa. He can swing either way and will most happily pander to the BJP if there is a change in regime. That will also help his national ambitions, eg NLUD VC-ship or Law Commission membership in future.
Jobs will come and go but you cannot base your entire life's outlook around it, especially when you're presently still a student. If you are unable to find a job in your preferred practice area, explore alternatives in the meantime such as clerkship or a chamber to start earning and then make a move when an opportunity arises, don't chase an ideal job or a perfect practice area for now.
“I cannot help wondering at the scandalously high amounts paid to some of the law officers and the senior counsel by the government and quasi government institutions including local bodies. Let me cite an instance. The Madurai Kamarajar University is in financial doldrums. I myself dealt with at least a dozen writ petitions filed by the retired staff. I am told that a particular senior counsel was paid Rs.4,00,000/- per appearance by the university. The university which is pleading that its financial situation is such that it is unable to pay the dues of its retired staff has no difficulty in paying exorbitant fees to its counsel,” the Court said.
“I am also informed that recently the Hon'ble Division Bench presided over by His Lordship Mr.Justice S.M.Subramaniam indicated that the Additional Advocate General cannot appear in every matter. Their presence should be required. The nature of the case must warrant their appearance. In order to appease various constituencies, the ruling governments appoint needlessly high number of law officers,” the Court noted.
On appointment of about a dozen AAGs in the State, the Court said,
“When I entered the bar in 1991, we had only Advocate General. There was no Additional Advocate General at all. When too many are appointed, necessarily each of them will have to be given work. That leads to allotment of matters that do not even require their services. When the cases are called, the government counsel seeks adjournment or pass-over on the ground that the Additional Advocate General has been engaged but is elsewhere.”
https://www.barandbench.com/news/tn-government-pays-scandalously-high-fees-to-some-law-officers-and-senior-counsel-madras-high-court
- Rich upper castes, OBCs and minorities have NRI or Domicile quota
- Rich SC/STs have SC, ST, NRI and Domicile quota (no creamy layer bar for SC/ST quota)
- If you are poor and in any of the above categories, add EWS
- Then smaller quotas like women, disabled, transgender etc
Parallel to all of this, each NLU has a small number of seats where admission is on pure merit, irrespective of caste, wealth or social status. These are the true unreserved seats. Until the early 2000s, these seats were the majority across NLUs. Now they are the minority.
Also, what about firms like indus, snr, icul? what makes a firm t1? are they t1? (also, these firms like snr and touchstone that pay at par at entry level, do they actually pay well in the long run?) i find it very difficult to believe that they do
Stop having law firm FOMO. Most people quit after a year or two anyway.
NLSIU is by far the best law school in India. LLB degree from there will only be prestigious and the best.
I know I am kind of jumping on a thread for fresher specific query, but hey, op has now as much pqe as me, I guess
Sports
PWD
NRI Sponsred (Because we need Money)
Caste Quotas (Caste is a unfortunate reality).
If you really want to explore culture but with a sense of familiarity then NLUO.
Draw your conclusions.
23 acres campus is quite large. NALSAR and HNLU aside, most NLUs will have similar sized campus. NALSAR, otoh, is some 20 kms away from the city and students do not have the chance to engage with cultural activities/competitions/etc in the city. Opportunity of externships at firms/law offices, during the term that NLS provides will not be easy to manage at NALSAR.
The size of graduating cohort will be around 400 for the class of 2031 but the investment that NLS has made in careers office, clinics, externships will also expand the opportunities available for them.
Trimester system is demanding but that also prepares students better for the life after graduation.
What you have not referred to in your post and is the greatest USP of NLS is the difference in Faculty quality and curriculum. The academic exposure you will have at NLS, irrespective of sections, will be qualitatively superior to what you will have at NALSAR. The exodus of many faculty from NALSAR post departure of Prof. Mustafa is not something a University can quickly recover from.
1. The course seems to be relatively new, will it hurt my employment opportunities? I saw on some LI and Reddit posts that there isn't any placement cell/committee as of now and not a single batch has graduated, so the chances may be bleak.
2. It also seems that the campus is a different one, about 3 kms away from the main campus. Are there any accomodation or other problems there, considering that the main campus is already quite small?
3. Would there be any difference between the B.A. and B.Sc. students apart from coursework (i.e. in terms of opportunities)?
4. I have been to Kolkata quite a few times and I just really dislike the humid weather there. Then, after seeing how small the campuses are, I already made up my mind to not go there. But that was when I thought that a score of 93.5 could get me GNLU/NLIU. Is the difference between these two so stark that I should set aside all these concerns and go there or should I stick to HNLU?
I pay 40k for 2 BHK. Other monthly expenses are apx 20k.
Planing to shift to Mumbai with my wife (in 1 BHK). How much expenditure should I expect?
Reasons for shifting are pollution, safety, closer to home, etc.
Have offers from SAM, AZB & KCO Mumbai offices.
how much do seniors pay to freshers?
Very few are trained to think like business-facing legal leaders.
We’re exploring a premium finishing school for a small, curated cohort of final-year law students who don’t just want a job—but want a long-term path to becoming a top-tier General Counsel.
This is not about:
❌ black-letter law
❌ exam prep
❌ placement coaching
This is about:
✅ how GCs actually think
✅ how legal advice is shaped by business, risk, power, and judgment
✅ how careers are built deliberately—not accidentally
✅ how credibility is earned inside boardrooms, not courtrooms
Think of it as a bridge between law school and real-world leadership.
We’re currently testing interest and pricing for:
• a short, intensive, cohort-based programme
• live sessions + practical simulations
• taught by people who’ve actually done the job
If you’re a final-year law student (or know one) who would be interested in something like this, drop a “GC” in the comments
You still have some time before graduation and not to mention, after graduation wherein you can still do assessment internships/ask for callbacks or pick up trainee/junior associate positions to work towards a full time role.
NEVER LOSE HOPE OR DO ANYTHING EXTREME, you have plenty of chances to upskill and make the best of your education with or without an offer in hand before graduation. Now is the time to work on your CV, your Cover Letter and yourself and not leave any stone unturned!
tbh there’s basically 3-4 reasons why ppl do clerkships.
first is using it as a springboard for disputes practice. i literally know 3-4 folks who walked into azb, sam, kco etc right after their clerkship. second is getting into chambers of top SAs. know a first gen guy from a lesser known college working w one of the best SAs in SC after 2 years of clerking. massive W.
third is getting that LOR for LLM apps. fourth is treating it as a part time gig while prepping for judiciary. and yes it counts in the 3 years experience rule. LRs were smart enough to protect their interests while drafting that judgment lol. (but if you plan on doing this don't disclose that in your clerkship interview for obvious reasons)
jjj
but ngl there is no written guarantee of a t1 disputes job. entirely depends on ur networking game. if ur smart enough it’s def manageable. i know a former judge who personally made sure all his LRs got placed after he retired. real mvp.
source: done judicial internships and talked to like 10-12 clerks about this so i know the tea. Hope this helps.
Being a woman doesn't mean they are not prone to lying, you can lie irrespective of the gender you are.
In fact there are numerous such cases which by appeals in HCs have found the statements of alleged "victims" in such cases to be purely malicious and hearsay to frame their men partner.
Moreover, "—" using this emdash only goes to show that you have used AI to generate such a response. Please be unbiased as a legal professional, it's the least expected thing from you.
1. Join the disputes practice of a t-1 firm (I personally know many who are working at SAM, AZB, KCO Delhi disputes after SC and DHC clerkships for 1-2 years)
2. Join the chambers of Sr. Advs. I know of a guy (1st gen and not from a NLU / or famous private college )who got into the chambers of one of the best Supreme Court Sr.
3. Getting an LOR for an LLM abroad (LOR of a judge carries a lot of weight for admission committees at top institutions like Oxbridge, Ivy, etc.)
4. Treating it as a part time gig while you prepare for the Judiciary Exam. Yes! clerkship period is calculated
as a student who has interacted with him,
calm down.
My bet is on VKT. Who else?
Poverty is the mother of philosophy.
I am A0 at T1 law firm in capital markets having about 8 months experience. I wish to switch my practice area to general corporate. I am totally fine with starting from scratch. I had done many general corporate internships back in law school (if that helps).
Please guide me how to start, what to do. I would really appreciate some insights.
My last three internships have all been in-house, and now I’ve received a callback offer for a 3-month in-house internship right before I start my 5th year. There’s also a real possibility of converting this into a PPO, which makes it tempting.
That said, I’m a bit conflicted. I don’t have any Tier-1 law firm internship experience yet, and I’ve often heard that switching from in-house to a law firm later isn’t very easy. Because of that, I’m unsure whether continuing with in-house is the right long-term move.
So now I’m stuck between two options:
- Do I continue with the in-house role and try to convert it into a PPO?
- Or should I pivot at this stage, try to secure a law firm internship, and aim for a firm callback instead, even if that means taking some risk?
I am well ahead of my txn law peers ie I'm “semi-technical” in finance, meaning I can actually follow the maths instead of just name-dropping bullshit linkedinwala jargon.
Thinking back on how I picked up theory + asset pricing + valuation math + LBO + Black Scholes etc over the years:
- - Damodaran’s YouTube lectures (gold obviously): https://www.youtube.com/@AswathDamodaranonValuation
- - Cochrane’s Asset Pricing (literally skip all the math): https://www.johnhcochrane.com/research/books
- - PE/VC modeling MBA course I took in a sister institution (USA)
Now I’m trying to get “semi-technical” in CS/AI because I want to VIBE CODE some management and billing apps for my firm... And because my clients seem to think computers can do what I can do now...
- - I’ve done some vibe-coding with GPT5-Codex on ChatGPT.com/codex and made my team a calendar manager in less than 2 days
- - Thinking if I should start a course track with Harvard Law School "CS50 & AI for Lawyers"? Worth the time? https://cs50.harvard.edu/hls/2025/winter/
- What is the CS course track? What is the Damodaran of AI?
- Any books? podcasts? anyone can recommend?? tia
ps: pls don't the stupid childish explainer videos--I want the serious stuff like the Damodaran series
Presumably there is some correlation with success... maybe? ;)
Most Asst. Profs. in Indian universities would struggle to get any meaningful tenure at any half-decent US/UK university. We do have some excellent Professors of the Practice though, full-time academics not so much.
But, we climbaround a toxic adjunct culture by hiring APs like so across the country, in our "top legal schools"...
The forums exist for this explicit purpose--that we can co-exist in anonymity with ass-0-ciates. Our generation invented the forums.
And without the flame-warring of LinkedIn and Twitter: so yes, Legally India is the only place that a partner seriously reads and writes in.
Other colleges thst you might consider after RML if judiciary is your goal - NLUJ, GNLU, NLIU