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On that note, LI as a platform had always walked the talk on that front: here's one of many articles from 2012, condemning attacks on free speech by the previous government and Mamata for instance: https://www.legallyindia.com/201209143113/Analysis/a-short-history-of-indian-freedom-of-speech-laws-who-should-we-blame
While also accepting that some limits on freedom of speech are undesirable but may be required to prevent inciting violence, such as that threatened by fringe groups when Salman Rushdie was to read the Satanic Verses at the Jaipur Literature Festival:
https://www.legallyindia.com/home/column-how-free-should-we-be-to-speak-in-india-20120914-3114
Yet, there's also plenty of coverage and examples of, for instance, intolerance when fringe groups bullied a publisher into pulping an academic book which offended their sensibilities: https://www.legallyindia.com/201402114335/Bar-Bench-Litigation/penguin-pulps-hindu-book
a) engage with the substance of any point
b) condemn any of the things that supposedly 'no sensible person would agree with', according to the original commenter,
c) offer anything beyond ad hominem in response.
That very clearly establishes a lack of bona fide engagement and intentions, and will continue to inform moderation decisions, though we are always open to accepting genuine intelligent discourse on such matters, where not everyone has to agree and have the same political beliefs.
But: LI is intended to be a place for open debate and the sharing of genuine ideas and thoughts on matters, but it can not a place to spread things that are plain untrue or propaganda or bordering on hate, such as selectively trying to vilify minority communities.
By all means, criticise that islam as practiced in many parts of the world can be quite draconian when it comes to religious insult, but then don't try to deny that a lot of other religions have / have had very similar / different / and in some cases worse problems of intolerance linked to violence very close to home (which is particularly dangerous if religious zeal is backed by the force of the state).
As had been requested previously, this thread is a good case for potentially blocking all political discourse on LI, since organised groups of readers don't publish a constant stream of so-called "LW" threads that point out every single problematic thing the government does, and if they did, it would just turn the platform (more?) toxic like Twitter or Facebook.
So, we are proposing a simple smell test for moderation: 'If it smells like you wrote a post primarily because you hate or fear or trying to incite such feelings against any community as a whole (whether that be Hindus, Muslims, Christians or LGBTQ), it is a trollish post'.
1. Beef: so you're fundamentally accepting that religious offense is very important, so if you are offended by me offending your religion (by eating beef or insulting your prophet), you have the right to punish someone else / take vigilante action (i.e. just like Nupur is getting a slap on the wrist now and will no doubt be politically rewarded again some time soon once things have died down?)
2. Menstruating in temples: again, you making the same point that religious offense is apparently important. If it offends me that you as a woman are doing X, I should have the right to stop you from doing so on religious or cultural grounds?
3. Yes, precisely "there are certain exceptions" who do force others to say Jai Shree Ram, and you say "no sensible person would agree with them". Then how do you explain that such vigilantes and such fringe have never been condemned or cracked down on by this dispensation or states in which it rules, but have actually been encouraged and supported and rarely receive criminal sanction?
4. 'You shoudl not be permitted to comment unless from Assam or WB'? That sounds like a freedom of speech issue, surely anyone should be able to and have an obligation to comment about anything happening in a country (and if geographical closeness is an indication of how strongly you have freedom of speech, then one should certainly have a stronger duty to comment about CAA than about human rights abuses in China).
4a. No one will beat you up if you speak out against CAA? People were literally beaten and imprisoned for speaking out or protesting against CAA, but such memories are short...
5. That's precisely the point: the 'special operation' crackdown in Kashmir was claimed to make things safer in Kashmir, instead it seems to have had the opposite effect. Who knew, government oppression and violence breeds more terrorism and radicalisation? Oh yeah, that's right, the government knows this...
6. 'Nobody has any problem with interfaith marriages'? So the vigilante campaigns by extremist right wingers breaking up random interfaith marriages inventing so-called 'love jihad' as an excuse is not a thing that actually exists then? Do you have any reliable statistics that forced conversions and 'love jihad' is an actual problem that demands vigilante justice?
6a: Can you at least condemn a bunch of vigilante incels who break up weddings violently, as well as condemn the sanction of state and police they often receive for such acts?
Responding to your lastly: 'secularism and inclusiveness' do NOT exist in India BECAUSE it is a Hindu majority country, they exist in India because it is a liberal democracy with a constition protecting minorities. If you want to say our democracy is still more democratic and protecting of fundamental rights than other totalitarian fundamentalist states, then you are probably right.
But that has everything to do with democracy and not with eroding exactly that democracy and vilifying another community and painting them as the root of all evil and bad things in this country that can only be fixed by the majority oppressing a minority.
But well spotted, the post above under was clearly also intended to be trollish and has been marked as such, since it seems to have triggered a fair number of commenters...
It's fine to be a fan of one side or the other, but as lawyers you / we should be a little more circumspect about the media spectacle the case actually was and not view it so uncritically like the average US TV watcher / Twitter stan / men's right activist / incel who sees this as vindication that all women are liars and metoo is a sham and women should go back to the kitchen and shut up more.
Will start you off with:
DD is for due diligence.
A0, A1, A2, SA, SA-1, PA, etc are for Associate, Senior Associate, Principal Associate (and the number sometimes means how many years you've been at that level)
Those sure sound a lot like issues of freedom of expression...
Doesn't the US ever learn? The People vs OJ Simpson: American Crime Story is worth watching by the way, for those who want to learn more about this style of justice and how to lawyer / get lawyered in it...
Bottom line is: Why the hell do should we care so much about them?
Though y'all really need to stop bandying the 'slave' word about so liberally: it does not mean what you think it means, especially not when you're getting paid decent money and CHOOSE to stay there (rather than, y'know, get hunted down and lynched by sanction of the state when you decide to quit)
Short answer: yes, you will definitely be fine one day, even if it does not seem like it right now and what you're experiencing seems like the most and only important thing in the world right now. With time it becomes possible to deal with any situation, and eventually adapt and find new solutions and opportunities, even if those are not apparent now.
It does not make it much easier now, but sooner or later you will meet more people and your current social bubble will expand and most likely you will also find someone who understands you.
Take care!
Related / relevant: https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/175565-what-should-i-study-for-last-minute-corporate-ppo-interview-prep
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/181177-Updated-Fresher-Pay-Tabulation
Ongoing crowd-sourced tabulation with lots of info:
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/221940-crowdsourced-open-and-fully-editable-list-of-salaries-in-indian-law-firms
(Also, why do lawyers only date other lawyers? What's up with that yo?)
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/197399-what-do-women-wear-in-law-firms
not relevant:
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/218652-Dress-Code-for-Women-at-Khaitan