Violence started when SC passed the order? Do you not read newspapers, or are you forgetful? Violence was already taking place when the HC had passed its order - which, by the way, violates every known principle of separation of powers, constitutionalism, and goes against a huge line of SC judgements.

Please do not go by this thread. It has got increasingly clear that the student body has an agenda against the VC and the admin. Because the SJA has no interest in academic reforms, they have found a way to stay relevant by bashing the new course. The student body is unaware of the fact that almost all good law schools have started different courses recently (eg., 3 year LLB at NLS, IPM at NALSAR, BSc LLB at NLIU etc.). While the present VC is doing everything possible to make college a centre of excellence in criminology, all that the student body cares about is pleasing a certain segment of the GB (which btw; never elected them).

For those applying to US law schools for LLMs, LSAC rates their foreign grades in qualitative terms: Superior, above average, average, etc. Any idea what matrix LSAC uses for this conversion?

I am a recent graduate of NLIU with 80% aggregate marks. Do I stand a reasonable chance to be rated as superior?

Rathin, Poddar and JK Das do not have the standing or credentials to be VC of NUJS. Neither does NKC, but his appointment was done via an opaque and arbitrary process, which I don't think will be repeated because Chandrachud is no Gogoi and actually cares about legal education.That said, there will still be a push for a Bengali VC from the TMC, so Chandrachud may relent there. In that case, corporate law professor Indrajit Dube (NLUM VC on leave from IIT) may be the frontrunner. He is actually a Bengali Dube and not a UP Dube. Below is a video of him speaking. In my view, the pros and cons would be as follows:

Pros:

- VC of an NLU, even if it is the newest and last-ranked one.

- He teaches corporate law and is starting a BBA LLB course at NLUM. So no nonsensical criminology focus.

Cons:

- TLC background and likely to resist Sudhir-style alumni hiring

- Weak academic credentials. His bio mentions a book by Lambert publishers and a journal called the US-China Law Review by David Publishers, both of which are listed as pay-to-publish scam publications on various sites. Most of his publications are co-authored with students or his wife, who is a criminal law professor. So you will see a laughable mix of publications on corporate law, crimes against women, environment etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl3e_fb_bmE

https://www.iitkgp.ac.in/department/IP/faculty/ip-indrajit

True, the current SJA is politically aligned with students who are empty vessels and have no knowledge about things. The SJA defamed the VC in front of the entire student body and the student body was shamelessly hooting and clapping, in enjoyment of the drama. The current SJA wants this college to sink to unprecedented depths and the ▮▮▮ is not listening to those people who are actually against what he is doing. The courses of action of the current SJA are highly non-democratic where they neither listen to the student body. The ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ was seen leaving the GB meeting in between as a form of dissent towards the SJA's act of tarnishing the image of the VC. The SJA is picking unnecessary fights with the VC which will only do bad to the students in the long run, and it is all because some certain person of the SJA who is empowered to take decisions takes them on their own accord without any fruitful discussion whatsoever.

Lol. By that logic every coaching institute should shut shop too.

1. They should not take credits, as students worked hard themselves, right?

2. Students also should not join coaching institute and should instead mail successful past year aspirants to take 'free guidance'.

Grow up OP. You haven't seen the world. No one has got time for guiding others for free. Even you would like to work 10 minutes more for your law firm beyond your designated time if they don't pay you overtime

Prof. NKC, VC of NUJS is another person who is doing everything possible for the betterment of college. NIRF rank of NUJS has improved under him and the college could have been at no. 3 this time, had it scored equally good in 'Perception' Parameter. New courses have started with focus on forensics and criminology, for which the college will reap benefits in a few years from now. New Research Centres have been set up and several esteemed guests are being called to deliver lectures on a regular basis. Placements wise, college has been doing really well, credit of which goes to its students. Past couple of years have been several good developments, with infrastructure being the only area of concern. However, to that effect, construction has recently begun and within 2 years, the issue will be resolved.

I mean. This is what’s weird about this website. You get these loyal cheerleaders from all these colleges who will shout and scream about how they’re number 1. In real life when you go to these universities and spend some time with the students - they’ll admit that their university is quite sub par, that they feel cheated, that it isn’t quite what they imagined. That they thought the faculty would be better, that their peer group would be more driven, that the opportunities they got would be more exciting and that their education would be more rigorous.

But no one online talks about what they should do to make their college better. They just assert that it is and insult people who disagree.

I don’t want nlud or nalsar to just be better than the other. I don’t want them to be satisfied with nirf rankings. I want them to compare themselves to HYP/ Oxbridge and see where they fall short and go and fix their problems. But alas. We’re so happy with our mediocrity.

It's clear from this article that CPR (which is FYI headed by Mani Shankar Aiyar's daughter) cannot be a viable career option. So I guess this leaves Vidhi as the best option? Unlike CPR, Vidhi is non-ideological and has good relations with whichever party is in power, as well as the judiciary. Its associates help ministers with speeches, reports, etc, regardless of the party in power. You will never see Vidhi people writing newspaper articles attacking the government. So IMO this makes Vidhi a safe bet whether BJP or Congress is in power.

Is this correct?

https://www.ft.com/content/ee2b8b03-315b-4074-acac-173b8c2e7124

OP. I understand where you are coming from. But you need to understand that there are students who don't have any access to seniors like many of us do in NLUs. What is very 'obvious' for many of us, is highly obsure for many students.

For them, if they are getting a right direction by paying a couple thousand rupees, what's wrong in that. Let me tell about myself. Being a student from non-NLU, when I personally texted many working people for guidance, and they never cared to reply back. This is when I approached a few career mentors and they gave me the right direction to proceed. Ofcourse, I got the job due to my own efforts, but getting their experience and guidance really helped.

Have you ever been on a rant like this for Dominos or alcohol manufacturers for selling overpriced stuff? Do we even think twice before shelling out 1000s of rupees on restaurants or movies? Then why be so negative and suspicious when spending few 1000 rupees on something that is definitely not wasteful and comes in the ambit of 'educational investment'?

Just my 2 cents. You are free to disagree.

Mark my words: Some loony outfit will file a case before some small-town court in UP and the judge will send notice to Christopher Nolan. 🙄

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/oppenheimer-sets-global-box-office-ringing-but-a-complaint-in-india-over-sex-scene-featuring-bhagvad-gita-4233257#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

Neither Anoop nor Pritam have been professors for ten years and hence they don't qualify. Shubhankar does not even have a PhD yet. Nemika did not become a professor at JGLS by fulfilling the UGC requirements (almost none of their professors do, since they give that designation randomly to a lot of junior people), so she won't qualify either. Saptarishi is an Assistant Professor at Osgoode, so he doesn't qualify either. Only Srividhya Raghavan qualifies among NLU alum now, but after her Goa fiasco, she probably has had enough of Indian legal education for a while now.

Why do you automatically assume that NALSAR/NUJS students are downvoting the comments? There are plenty of NLSIU students who do not like Sudhir and have doubts about how this URC will be able to grasp the real problems and challenges facing an Indian institution without having much of an idea about Indian legal education system at all.

The review committee is a Friends of Sudhir Club that will sing his praises, but what will really benefit NLSIU is the affirmation of the Karnataka High Court decision saying that NLSIU is a national institution and should not have domicile quota. This observation will then be submitted to the SC, which is hearing the state government”s appeal. Moreover, the present AG is an NLSIU alum and ASG Vikramjit Banerjee is the one who made the argument in the first place, before the Karnataka High Court. Everyone knows this is the agenda of setting up the review commission.

I have no problem with this, but I have a big problem when Sudhir, Vikramjit & Co make the argument that other NLUs are state universities and cannot be compared with NLSIU. It was dishonest, unethical and unnecessary of them to make this argument before the Karnataka High Court, which didn’t know any better. Why bring others down?

Regardless of whichever institution you may be from, it is a discredit to your education that you consider merit to be equivalent to a random score and rank secured for a 2-hour examination that discloses more of your privilege rather than your intelligence or aptitude for law. However, to respond to your rather juvenile comment, yes, at NUJS, we do not believe in discriminating between our students irrespective of their CLAT scores and ranks. Once they become part of this institution, then they are part of the same family and we will always try to treat all of them fairly and equally to ensure that they may be able to fulfill their maximum potential. Maybe it happens differently where you come from, but if so, I for one would not care to be part of such an institution.

In my floating academic career I have come across half a dozen VC and have tracked the progress of a few more. In my personal opinion Bhatt has the dubious distinction of being the worst VC in terms of an administrator and person. He suffered from a curious form of policy paralysis whereby he would take a decision reverse it at the slightest protest and then try to sneakily bring that back paddle back and then fret over it. Apart from personal frailties like casteism, chauvinism etc. he also has little vision of building an institution and was more interested in personal gratification like extending his tenure. He let go of the best faculty members that NLUs have ever seen (last couple of years of MP singh). He entered into a faustian bargain with the WB law minister and introduced domicile quota, he also green lighted the second campus, but thankfully a powerful EC member stopped it. He got some land but not the money to build. Like many on the list by OP Bhatt also centralised power to an extent that he would personally intervene on the choice of mopheads to be bought for cleaning floors. I wonder if he had spent more time on academics and retain the talent like Sudhir, Shamnad, Jasmine, Prabhash et al. There is a report which states that over two dozen faculty members quit in the first term of Bhatt. All of them had joined when either Chimni or MP singh were VCs.

This is true. NUJS has produced a 2 Rhodes scholars from their NRI and Domicile quotas respectively. But one thing to understand here is that the kids coming from these quotas are very privileged in every sense and are able to leverage that at a good law school to get top jobs and scholarships. They just had a relatively poor day in CLAT, which can happen to anyone. But the fact remains that in a public law university, having such quotas defeats the very purpose of inclusive access based on merit.

This week I attended a workshop on constitutional law in Delhi that was organised by Professor Shubankar Dam and it was absolutely phenomenal. I am already an Assistant professor but even then I learnt so much about legal writing and scholarship. It was at a different level totally and I have never attended anything like this. I only feel bad that such people are not teaching in India and when a few of us asked him if he would come back to India one day he only smiled

No, he would not have to. Whatever wages/salary they earn is because of the value they can offer. Whatever taxes he is paying are not being paid towards charity. There has to be reciprocation by the service provider.

Further, a lot of these people themselves do not have access to public amenities such as sewage system, roads, etc. Again, he is right about how he is feeling...

It’s not about rankings but the point is if NALSAR were so much “better” than NLUD as some of you claim, then surely it would be recognised to be so. Atleast in one year, it should’ve ranked ahead. It’s hasn’t. Not even when it had a salary data of 18 lacs in the first or second NIRF and NLUD had like 13-14 (since that’s the main gripe for all the losers here). Ergo, it’s not that much better.

Law School alum and Vidhi founder Arghya Sengupta destroys Sudhir/NLS admin for all foreign review Commission

https://twitter.com/arghya_justify/status/1682447561502892032

If you believe the left and its media houses, Modi is single-handedly responsible for the Manipur violence. If you believe the right and its media houses, Christian missionaries, China etc are responsible. But we are forgetting one simple fact: the violence started when CJI Chandrachud passed an order overruling the Manipur HC, which had said that Meitis could be classified as ST (like Kukis) to get seats in universities in jobs. Chandrachud said they can’t get such status. So then the Meitis started attacking the Kukis out of resentment. Now, if there was no reservation, everyone would be competing equally for the same seats and jobs.

Why are people not addressing this fundamental issue and looking elsewhere for placing the blame?

Legally India should stop giving platform to those who badmouth Hon'ble VC Prof Dr NK Chakrabarti and NUJS anonymously. This VC is trying very hard to undo all damage done in Bhat-Talukdar era. SJA ▮▮▮ seems hand in glove with conspirators who defame NUJS and this was visible during the GB meeting where the VC was not given due respect

Wilkins gave him some prize from Harvard. O'Regan is his friend from Oxford. So is Endicott. Chintan Chandrachud studied at Oxford.

Why do we need foreigners ---- are Indians incapable of reviewing the school

https://clp.law.harvard.edu/knowledge-hub/insights/watch-a-conversation-with-d-y-chandrachud-chief-justice-of-the-supreme-court-of-india/

https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/events/adjudicating-rights-justice-chandrachud-conversation-kate-oregan-and-tarunabh-khaitan

yes you can politely ask him to help you with an internship referral, just ask him to base this off of merit and feedback on your work with him, this way it is not a contact, rather a professional reference. If he doesn't reply or chooses not to give you one, take the call though.

Imho, the only issue is administrative in nature - expecting things to change with the new VC who should be joining this/next month onwards. Anyways, taking a drop won't be a good idea because both places are similarly placed. You won't lose/gain anything by option for one over the other. However, a drop means you lose one year and that is quite a lot.

Two minutes silence for NUJS and GNLU which also have Chandrachud as Chancellor 🤣

On a serious note, I expect the Review Commission will recommend that NLSIU be given INI status without domicile quota. This may be the whole reason why foreign experts were appointed. The question then arises about what happens to other NLUs, because a #NationaliseNLUs petition was signed by all NLU student bodies in 2016 or so.

Hey fraternity,

to give you a fair bit of background. I'm graduating in a couple of months and have one assessment internship lined up. It's the only lead I have as of now. My main priority coming out of law school is to start my career and take care of my parents so I intend to ace the internship. So the law firm specializes in a number of cross-border transactions, acquisitions, PE and gen corp work. Based on your experiences and learning, I would love to hear any recommendations that you could provide to help me prepare for the role and convert it into a potential job.

Also, one constant feedback I've received over a number of internships is to "have an eye/attention for detail" and "further research". I would appreciate it if anyone senior or way experienced could actually give examples/instances of what the statement boils down to or is it a generic statement most seniors pass down to juniors?

Thanks in advance,

Your fellow struggling anxiety induced final year law student

The difference between the two institutions is extremely marginal. Some might favour NLUJ over GNLU, while others might feel the opposite. Both are quality institutions that would facilitate your growth as a legal professional. They provide ample job opportunities, and if you perform decently during your time there, you will likely be awarded a job if that's your end goal. It is also important to note that both institutions have rather mediocre professors.

In terms of expenditure, GNLU is more affordable, and the environment is more laidback. However, the crucial point is that if you manage to get into either of these institutions, it is definitely worth attending, and taking a drop year won't be worth it at all. There is hardly any significant difference between these institutions and the Top 3 law schools in regards to placements.

Incoming BO'28 student, curious about what my senior batches are generally like but don't know whom or how else to ask. How open should I be with seniors? Which committees/societies/clubs to join? What are the cliques, whom to suck up to or ask for help with exams/projects or internships while not appearing too enthu and more importantly, whom to avoid?

Thanks!

Why the downvotes? Why can't NALSAR/NUJS students appreciate Sudhir's good work instead of being jealous? You guys should lobby for an alum as VC who can be even better than Sudhir. NALSAR can lobby for Anoop Surendranath (currently at NLUD) or Pritam Baruah (BML Munjal) while NUJS can lobby for Shubhankar Dam or Saptarishi Bandopadhyay or Nemika Jha (currently at JGLS).

The number of times people come to LI posting queries to inquired, because CAM HR won't respond is way too many.Apparently CAM HR comes onto LI to defend CAM in saying no offers to JGLS retracted but emails to the HR official email are not bothered about .CAM is one terribly pathetic firm just milking the fathers Amarchand brand.

Sudhir Krishnaswamy has become the best VC - Here’s why

Appointing a SRC with that good of professors , man it’s so cool plus he now has the blessings of CJI. No one can stop NLS now.

“Now I am become death , the destroyer of the world” - NLS folks to their haters ❤️

Hi, I am from a T1 NLU. I have severe health issues, and my studies suffered a lot. I tried pulling through and studying, but I am looking at possibly repeating my third year. I have my repeat exams in a week. My CGPA till the 2nd year is 6.2/7.0. I really wanted to pursue an LLM, but if I just pass in my repeat exams, I am afraid I would not be selected. Same for placement in T1 firms. However, if I repeat the year and fix my grades and extracurriculars, I can provide mitigating circumstances as reasons for repeating the year, instead of just passing right now. What would be the better option? Thanks in advance

Tell them that there is a difference between a corporate lawyer and a litigation lawyer just like there is a difference between a cardiologist and a neurologist. I hope they don't go to a neurologist with heart problems, similarly, you can't go to a corporate lawyer with your property disputes. Just give them a brief overview of the situation which isn't very difficult and then say that you need to look at all the documents to understand what the exact situation is but you don't have enough time for that so they should consult a litigation lawyer.

Sudhir be like: ab mera kaam khalas. The kind of shit which he has done to this University is innumerable. Only current students will know what I am talking about. Outsiders seem to be a fan of Sudhir because of alumni hiring! I feel like a protest is slowly brewing and may just burst out within the next year or two unless he leaves by then!

Have heard some nightmare stories from tier one firms, including working while sick, partners throwing coffee at associates and throwing things in general, having zero work-life balance, having to work through the death of an immediate family member etc. Is the culture at foreign law firms any different or is it the same ?