I know exactly what you are talking about. The ▮▮▮ guy is an ▮▮▮ now while the polite guy is still as good as ever. I interned at the Delhi office before and after the expansion and the difference was clear as night and day. The culture there has definitely deteriorated even if the business there has increased substantially.

This is a poor misconstruing of what is going on. There are minority men being subjected to the most heinous physical acts of degradation by women purporting to protest the unsafe environment. These women just happen to be from upper castes and are making an attempt to silence this boy’s fears. Men were made to withdraw their complaints against this group of women by the administration owing to their caste background and their purported good intentions.

A series of questions in relation to LLM from a corporate lawyer currently working in a T1-

1. Are there any advantages or benefits of having done LLM? Are people with masters degree given more preference at the time of hiring?
2. Would an LLM give an advantage only if pursued from specific universities, if yes, then which?

3. Up till what PQE could one consider it being worth doing LLM?

3. What are majorly the factors one should consider for the above?

I work for a top tier investment bank. Yes, you don’t need an MBA degree to work for Investment Banks. Most of the senior folks in IBs have legal background without an MBA. I knke many seniors who joined the documentation team and then moved to Business Units/ Risk Management/COO function through internal mobility. While an MBA/CFA might help, it is never a prerequisite to join IBs.

Of all the partners I have worked for over the years, he's easily the one I would go back to in a second if he ever came back to Mumbai.

I remember people used to be scared of him because he used to look serious and intense all the time, but that's more perception than reality. He used to work quite hard and spent a lot of time working directly with associates.

He's definitely one of the smarter and nicer partners and it's good to see him doing well.

Then question is appointment. What steps have students taken to question is appointment? None. Everyone is just accepting the fate, no one has guts to question him. You guys keep complaining over LI, but have you ever questioned his actions in college?

New exam policy has been implemented without being notified. No one dared to question that.

GBM was conducted for hostel rules and 3 year LLB, again no one was there in GBM.

YOU GUYS JUST TALK ON LI, CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

Hii folks,

I am a final year LL.B. student at the Faculty of Law, University of Delhi. I have interned in law firms and offices of Advocate on Record in New Delhi in disputes/litigation team. I am looking forward to securing long-term internships in law firms and later pre-placement offers.

Please suggest to me a few firms/senior advocates which hire fresh law graduates and pay decent in disputes resolution team especially arbitration.

Start working under a lawyer who do commercial matters or IP litigation at HC. Delhi HC has ordinary original jurisdiction. Companies pay good chunk of money to initiate cases in DHC. Consequently, such lawyers have good paying capacity. Many join district courts and SC and later neither their pay increase nor they get clients (obviously a generic statement - exception is everywhere - but are you exceptional :-P). Going independent is a thought that exist sub consciously but never happen for a 'very long period of time' and that too without surety. So try HC (commercial dispute - IP litigation).

As you serve as a junior to a senior working for corporate matter or IP litigation in HC and you are in direct touch with client (which you would) then after a long period (while you are compensated nicely) you have a chance that client recognizes you for your efforts that you are putting up for them.

Then later, there is a chance that out of many clients you are in direct touch with decided to move on with you only. That's how 'boutique firms' open. Even if otherwise, your pay is somewhere around 80k-1L after 5 years. While its not as fair as other practice area, but at least its not a desk job. You argue and get the satisfaction of being a lawyer for which you actually did the law school.

Sometimes you get a very good senior. Fortunately I am working under such senior who prioritise work-life balance and also a great mentor.

The idea is that you are secured that you are getting paid decent. When I say getting paid decent, I mean 30k-40k as fresher. If you wish to find such clientele based senior, then its better to track them through HC cause list. (I gave 0 efforts in typing this reply, so please pardon my English and writing style).

Hope it helps :-)

It’s a team who values professionalism above anything else. Their conduct towards their junior colleagues is at par with a parent’s conduct towards his/her child. They nurture the growth of an individual life skills. No overtime work is allocated and work life balanced is sacrosanct in the team’s senior lead’s opinion. The seniors act as a mentor and assist the juniors in understanding specific nuances of law in a very holistic manner. Lastly, work is seldomly allocated during the weekends and if it is, the members works as team and complete it together.

While you choose to remain anonymous, you brashly write about someone else with name. Just think before you write, this is certainly shameful. Have some respect for profession. Give feedback on LinkedIn with your name and details of experience. Go and meet him and sort it out.

Hi all, I am not from top NLUs. But I completed my law degree in faculty of law, Delhi University - 3 year program. But I need to practice in Chennai. I am a woman in my late 30s. Due to various circumstances I could only do one court internship on the criminal side. I held a part-time job throughout the course which is not legally inclined. My grades are very average. But I have previous IT and social work experience. And I have no contacts in Chennai in the legal circle. I have to start from scratch. I can eat into my savings for a year. I am prepared now to give my all and learn the craft now that I am back to Chennai. But since I have no internship experience I am apprehensive. What are the opportunities to stabilise my career in Chennai? I have to start earning at least to fend myself soon. Kindly help.

Dude gets ur facts right

Firstly Kirkland, Weil, skadden, cravath and the likes are US BIGLAW firms which do not hire juniors out of Law school. Only linklaters, hsf, cc and a0 have been. These firms are tier 2 in respect of pay in London. Mostly in 110 to 125 range compared to the 150 to 175 range of the former.

Second, after the new system of qualifying two exams before beggining the tc, u have to wait too many years to begin ur career and also spend ur own money.

It's much easier and safer to work in t1s in india and then lateral in 4 5 years to Kirkland or the likes

Bhai, 2 din internship krke tumne ye sb jaan lia. Waah sher!! RD. Would prefer not naming any individual, however, I know him very closely, as I know his journey, and know it for sure, that whatever and wherever this guy has been, has reached on his hard work, and work product. He is in the Tier 1 firm and Tier 1 practice of this country. College peers opinion nowhere matters, in front of the Client's opinions and of the Industry's. For you 'Angoor Khatte Hai'.

In an extraordinary turn of events, the VC of GNLU had to step in even as the new member list of the Sports Comm was released. ▮▮▮ A massive controversy and complain soon followed, and the VC had to hold an extraordinary general meeting to assuage the concerns. Fresh nominations and interviews would now be conducted.

This is a breaking and unprecedented event in GNLU, more updates to follow.

I m from MP.. have stayed in gurgaon for a few years. If you take the usual precautions, it is a very safe place to work:

1. Don't venture out alone at night

2. Avoid shady places

3. If you are a female and for any reason if you have to use an uber at night, make sure that you speak on phone to a friend and tell him/her the car number such that the cabbie hears the conversation

4. Traveling by autos is safer than ola uber

5. Make acquaintance with shop owners around your society - sabzi vala, kirana vala. These guys generally are locals who have resources to help when you are in triuble

again u assumed taking a walk means in your fancy metros with enough humans nearby and well lit roads, i'm talking about the lonely streets in my town specifically where there is an absolute dog menace, just because they show you courtesy doesn't mean everyone in India is safe, what kind of logic are you using, i'm safe so everyone is fine ?

A number of posts recently has dealt with this, but looks like all factors are pointing to the unavoidable truth: Jindal has drastically reduced in quality. Not only are the faculty sub-par (with just an LLM and no actual research or teaching experience) but even its QS ranking recently fell down by 14 places this year (from 70 in 2022 to 84 in 2023). Not to say that rankings are determinative, but just that they are indicative of the rapidly deteriorating quality of JGLS.

On top of that, with the massive influx of students, exodus of good faculty and mass hiring of mediocre ones, poor amenities, unhygienic food, claustrophobic and cramped hostels, and exorbitant fees which no longer makes any sense, it might be appropriate to say that Jindal had a good experiment going on but looks like it is the new, if somewhat marginally more sophisticated, version of Amity and Lovely.

P.S: They have even removed individual faculty pages, and clustered all faculty names as a list on their websites.

It’s a nothing word. It’s a word to call someone when you don’t like them. It’s concept creep. Once it used to mean someone who was physically or verbally or in some other way abusive. That’s not okay- but now it means anyone at all who doesn’t immediately fall in love with and coddle you. You use psychobabble language to make the thing worse than it seems. It’s crazy.

Why do people think work shouldn’t be hard or they wouldn’t make mistakes ? That’s the point of work- it is hard- especially when you spend five years doing nothing at all in law school even getting up in the morning and showing up on time would feel hard. But that doesn’t mean it’s an unreasonable expectation. And you will make mistakes and those will get pointed out - some seniors may have a warm touch but others might not have the time or the inclination to baby you. They may point out your mistakes or errors quite brusquely and go on their way. The senior who doesn’t baby you is actually teaching you. The person who tells you to finish your work before you leave to go get drinks with your friends is holding you freaking accountable.

This is what happens when you take complicated ideas in psychology, disability, and gender studies and then put them on Instagram. Genz is very sure of their own righteousness and politics - but they don’t see the cruelty of calling everything they don’t like abusive and toxic.

Hi anyone who knows Burgeon Law seems like a great firm that even though doens't pay probably a lot but does offer great work life balance with hybrid office and 2 weeks work from anywhere policy . Anyone who has worked there or interned could shed light upon the work culture at the firm are the seniors supportive . I am 4th year student who definitely wouldn't mind working at a firm long term that provides for a sustainable career as someone who is based of Delhi a T1 salary doesn't seem worth it to me.

Everyone knows the recent AZB resignation mail is only a tip of the tip of an iceberg. There are dozens of such insecure partners and senior partners we all know who have no identity beyond the four walls of a law firm. And they will do the meanest thing to their underlings since it's the only thing that gives them any satisfaction in life anymore.

Of course, LI shall have naming censorship, so be creative. I'll go first:

1. A ▮▮▮ "▮▮▮ ▮▮▮" as per ▮▮▮ magazine, who actually leaks client's classified information to regulators so that ▮▮▮ can make more money out of their troubles. This highest earning "▮▮▮" partner also has the highest attrition rate cause ▮▮▮ makes people work 18 hour days and then blames them for ▮▮▮ own shortcomings.

Me and my friends: "Hey Kian, we miss the old LI which exposed scandals. The moderator is slow, woke and censors everything."

Kian: "Gimme a sec..."

THE NEXT MORNING:

AZB owners (after switching on their computers and cellphones): "MAADARCH...."

Toxic is subjective and to be honest - depends on how much you can handle on an individual level. Consulting as a profession in general is not easy. Takes every ounce of strength you have in you (physical, mental, emotional) and then some more. You need to decide what you're putting your foot in. Consulting also happens to be one of the highest paying industry. It's a give and take - quid pro quo. No money comes easy/ quick.

Toxicity in my view would refer to how conducive the work environment is for you to function. Is asking someone to work 12-15 hours toxic, when that's the industry standard and you know is required/ expected out of you before you join the profession?

If a client is demanding a deliverable in an unreasonable time , is it toxic if the partner expects the team to work and meet the deadline?

For some all these may be signs of a toxic environment but for someone who really wants to make a mark - these are expectations one has to meet.

Can you fight against them? Yes for sure. Will it bring a change? Most probably not. Not at an associate level (have to meet the partner/ senior associate 's expectation), not at a senior associate level (has to meet the partner and client's expectation), not at a partner level (has to meet the client's demands). At a client level? No, they'd rather go to some other law firm who is ready to pounce on the client.

Sorry if this also sounds "toxic" but this industry really is a "man eat man" world.

@Lucky ali . Everyone is angry because guys is mistreated and publically humloated irrespective fo his work. All has been threatened to take leave for taking leave in case of health emergency of family members by a so called senior partner. This is abhoring and can't be justified in any sense!

Let's refresh our memory with what SILF told the Modi government a few months ago while opposing liberalisation:

"The second objection was that the Indian entities in India would lose their hold over young lawyers as once the foreign lawyers and firms enter the Indian market, they will emerge as the first choice for internship and jobs considering their pro-employee policies, pay, work environment and professionalism."

https://sundayguardianlive.com/news/after-bar-council-nod-to-foreign-lawyers-india-uk-closer-to-signing-fta

Bar & Bench has now plagiarised the story from LI. Just like old days!

https://www.barandbench.com/news/associate-from-top-law-firm-resigns-citing-stress-by-seniors

Again god damn victim blaming. You yourself has resorted to ad hominem shows your level of bias, clearly letter depicted otherside of story what associate has to undergo even when he is doing work. Clearly he was abused, ridiculed even threatened when he was with his mother due to health emergency. Badae ayye team dedication and paise ki baat karne inka baaz chale toh kabrr se bhi utha ke kaam karvaye

Same as title. With a whole semester and a few months ahead of me, I'm wondering how to make the most of this time. Traveling is not an option due to limited funds, and I've already invested a lot of time in studying, leaving me with no hobbies. Any suggestions for how to make the most of these months before I eventually start working? I know that many people are going through a tough time with the current job market, and it might seem insensitive to ask this, but I'm going crazy with anxiety just sitting idle.

Friends from time immemorial I have been listening and seeing people using the word toxic for most of the law firms.

Can anyone shed some light what is the meaning of this word and what should be right basis of declaring a firm as toxic.

As far as I know every other profession has some more or less same hectic stories.

People are car enthusiasts too not everything revolves around girls. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

And while you are at the point of showing off if one is motivated solely by creature comforts and don’t know jack shit about the engine and driving dynamics then merc is the best bet as they do the best interiors and have the most comfort features among the German Trio.

"We close the doors at the hostel to make sure they don't come in at night, I would suggest you try that."Thank you so much for enlightening me. I used to deliberately keep the hostel door wide open despite their being a stopper that automatically closes the door and wondered how dogs came in. Silly me!

You can go to any state anywhere in India and I can point you to towards dozens of incidents that have happened there so if you want to look at Gurgaon selectively then yes it’s unsafe, but it’s only as unsafe and any other place you go in India. Rest you can make a conscience call :)

It’s surprising how much credit is being given to someone’s story without any verification! Since when we as lawyers started believing anything that anyone would just upload (actually ever since LI came into existence). ▮▮▮ No one is asking who leaked this, obviously can’t be 2 out of the 3 recipients. It’s so simple to tarnish anyone’s image thanks to LI / twitter/ WhatsApp. Write anything about anyone (do hell with verification of facts! miss the good old days of true journalism) and it catches the eye of like-minded souls. No one asked if these statements are true? Or if these are exaggerated or not.

This is gonna be a long one so bear with me. My belief is that I believe that if a person starts out at SC in litigation he would have a better career trajectory if he gets under a renowned Sr Adv (Provided that he does trial work on his own or gets that trial exposure through internship). This belief partially comes through reading about many renowned lawyers who directly started out at SC (For eg, Vikas Pahwa and Gopal Sankarnarayan). Now the whole issue revolves around this fact that if a person establishes himself in trial and hc how would he be able to shift his practise in SC and have a proper arguing counsel type practice in SC?

Applying for A1 for Projects, Energy Infra Practice. What all do I need to prepare for the interview ?

For example, If I have worked on a concession agreement, do I need to memorise the nitty gritty of the terms, or does a bird's eye view work ?

Also, what other readings can be done ?