also khalistan terriosm is threat to india soverignity there is no question to that.

recently a congress punjab politican was shot

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/congress-leader-shot-dead-in-punjab-baljinder-singh-balli-khalistani-terrorist-arsh-dalla-2437449-2023-09-18

If you ever worked at Luthra, you will notice that everyone was filled with the false pride that they are best in their field and that they were working in the best law firm in the country. The reality is much different. That’s why you will see that other than shishir V, no one (including the S&P folks) are doing well outside Luthra. RKL and MS protected everyone, and got them business. None of these guys had a personal brand of their own.

I hear that ▮▮▮ is already looking out ▮▮▮

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There’re are atleast 3-4 people every year who choose NLUD over NLS. But that’s not the point, it’s not merely about NIRF and your personal opinion about NLUD doesn’t change facts that it’s still a tier-1 NLU that can challenge NLS. Same goes with NALSAR but honestly, I think NALSAR is overrated. Their location sucks and they haven’t accomplished anything significant in the past 10 years. Barely any major international moot wins, not as many scholarships either. You’re fanboy opinions won’t make any difference on that front.

Hey, this is possible, I did this. Until 4th year, I was looking for disputes teams only. I had T1 internships but mostly only in disputes. In one T1 that I interned at, they did not assign me to the disputes team and gave me a corporate team so that helped. In another T1, there wasn't strict separation of interns across teams so I got work from both. In my recruitment interview, I highlighted the corporate work I had done, and talked it up. Your litigation experience definitely doesn't amount to nothing, and it's possible that you experienced a variety of fields. Focus on the fields you'd like to work in while applying for internships/jobs, and make links - i worked in xyz, and it is linked to corporate work in this way - I found this overlap interesting and wrote an article, etc. It's about weaving a story in a way that makes sense and sounds like you've discovered your interests, rather than a story that sounds like you were desperately interning wherever without a clue

Hey LI MOD - the fact that you preferred to retain the title of this post in its present form and by extension paint this illegitimate, imported, minority and fringe movement as a Sikh Movement leaves me to believe that you are either ill informed / are sympathetic towards an independent Khalistan. My assumption is underpinned by your shockingly baseless and stated belief that the Sikhs were persecuted in India. Your answers rest in the links already shared, supplemented by the interviews that Ujjal Dosanjh has given to Rajdeep Sardessai and Barkha Dutt (in the past 24 hours). I don’t know if India had Nijjar taken down, if she had any role in this - however, given the hopeless circumstances (and precedents set by Canada and the US in the past), she wasn’t left with much of a choice. You are entitled to your support white hypocrisy and indifference towards India and India has every right to preserve its sovereignty - and that can never fly against her constitution and values. After all, the US did the same in Pakistan when taking down Osama - who like these Khalistanis also orchestrated a plane hijacking and crash. Feel free to hold a candle March for Nijjar. You’ll find yourself alone.

Have reinstated the videos in your post, though neither of those directly related to Kaur's post, which was a criticism of alleged extra-judicial and extra-territorial assassinations and persecution, rather than expressly talking about the Khalistan cause, terrorism, etc.

The sad thing is that this entire thread has been a little disappointing from a legal perspective. Let's assume, for argument's sake, that he had been a convicted terrorist (which he wasn't), whom Canada had refused to extradite. Would India be justified in killing him extrajudicially, in that case? What if he had been an Indian citizen? Does it change anything that he was a Canadian citizen? And how is this different from the extra-judicial drone assassinations of alleged terrorists that the US does, or Russia's or Turkey's or Saudi's assassinations of dissidents abroad?

And does anyone actually consider Khalistani terrorism alive and credible enough, as a threat against India's national sovereignty, etc, to take such alleged measures?

It's stupid to turn down NLSIU for any other colleges other than Ivy Leagues/Oxbridge. Even if one gets a full scholarship at a tier 2 college like Imperial or KCL or UCL or Warwick, or Cornell or Georgetown or Michigan, I think NLSIU is still a better choice. The name and prestige is enough to get you the most coveted jobs. Look at where alumni are: World Bank, partnerships at Magic Circle firms, TIME 100, Infosys Prize, ASG, etc.

I think it's. just a colonial hangover why people would prefer to go abroad.

Been reading on LI that BLR offices of T1 firms work as background support for other offices. Is this true. Can fellow associates working in BLR office of T1 firms throw a light on this please.

I am currently working in Pune and have interviewed with a T1 firm from BLR and expecting a positive response. Even if they do backend support then also it would be an upgrade for me in all sort of ways, I am just curious to know.

another thing that you should be aware is the massive intakes in the uk law schools in recent years, some have taken upwards of 650 students per year which makes tutorial system at non-oxbridge a joke, where as before you would have 8 students in a tutorial now there are 18-20. Only oxbridge has been able to retain the old tutorial system with 2-3 students per tutorial therefore the standard is much higher even than bristol or durham.

DU advantage is also extremely low fees. Less than half of NLS and unlimited scholarships of 90% on solely need basis. Plus being based in the biggest legal market of the country, if the attendance is as relaxed as it is in the 3 year course - students should be able to do year long internships like the GLC folks.

Who is claiming that? A handful of folks you found who will turn anything into a d**k measuring contest?

CLAT was just not well suited for the 3 year course. The test is made to be taken by students with a high school qualification, not college graduates. DU entrance is taken by IIT graduates, people with BA in history, english sciology etc, Commerce/eco grads. It needs a unique entrance exam to rank such a diverse applicant pool.

This happened a while ago but now that I’ve been ghosted I would like to share my experience.

Applied to a practice area at a well known Bombay International Tax Counselling firm, and they sent me a questionnaire to check my “competence”.

I thought that was fine till I opened it and realised that the questionnaire has about a 100 questions that need to be mandatorily answered in a yes/no format.

Questions were generally structured as “Do you know the answer to this question from this practice area that has no relation to the practice area you’ve applied for?” And some questions asked for reasons to be supplied with the answers but you can only choose yes or no in the form. I didn’t lie and honestly check “no” on questions I didn’t know the answer to, because frankly you can’t be expected to know everything about every practice area at lower PQEs.

Honestly turned off by the quality of the assessment because it didn’t do anything except making me feel bad about my ignorance for other areas of law that I’ve never worked on like GST and Funds.

I don’t know what role the questionnaire played in my selection/ghosting , but I have seen better questionnaires from much smaller firms. Was expecting more from a firm that is known for its meticulously crafted research papers.

Hawww! Are you TT&A PR? Are you a partner wanting to suck up to firm / MP by doing pro bono PR? TT&A was quite classy about PR conversations earlier, one cannot help but wonder what has happened in the recent past that there is a need for such delusional or over arching statements. Food for thought.

Increase in legal costs? That's not something proportional to an increase in business for law firms YOY.

Firms usually face a high attrition every year, and hire A0s to over just that. So basically most firms have a 50 to 70 percent rate of people leaving yoy, mostly in house.

The problem is that this year large companies are cutting cost centres, the biggest being legal in house teams and not hiring as rapidly, thereby preventing attrition from these law firms. Without vacancies being created, there is no need for A0s really, but experienced people at some levels to actually run the deals. Hence the freeze.

Catfish 'running' NLS students on social media instead, they'll give you better tips. The institute is more of a CV-padding feature than anything.
It takes independent, dedicated effort to set up an institute and run it. Fielding calls at 9 pm in the night or copy-pasting mocks on Sunday evenings doesn't do it. The institute has potential provided it at least has a couple of full-time faculty or caretakers.

As for the concept being 'underrated', you're simply for the fallacy that is outlined in the 'Peter Principle'. Good students/ test-takers don't necessarily make good teachers. At best they can give you what worked for THEM. Of course, by listening to a tonne of successful experiences might let you brute-force the CLAT given that the number of attempts are only limited by your lifespan-17.
But what usually happens when you're flooded with 'approaches' is that you get all muddled.

What you need to do for CLAT is to figure out an approach that works for you. Mocks help with that. Stick to some institute who invests a chunk of money on mocks and provides good, updated mocks, like some of the institutes mentioned below.
Then, you need 'good teachers' for conceptual clarity although self-study is a decent way to leg-it for anyone.

NLTI basically makes you pay for listening to 'experiences' of successful test-takers and a few minutes of their time.

Aw come off it - you were not ever gonna address the content of my argument. It was always gonna end with you calling me hateful and bigoted because I don’t agree with your philosophical beliefs about gender. Please point me to the exact sentence where you’re thinking Im arguing an ad hominem . I literally don’t know you - did not think you were op and was addressing policy and argument the entire comment. I don’t know what your biological sex is or who you’re claiming to be - I made generic statements that addressed both males and females who identify as trans.

Sorry your dysphoria didn’t resolve as quickly as it does for some people. It is a terrible thing to go through . I’ve had dysphoria as an adult so I literally understand. If you have dysphoria about your sexed body - you should continue going to therapy and working out that stuff. Cognitive behavioural therapy- don’t find a therapist who is lazy and will just affirm. Maybe you’ll need some medication as well - if you look at detrans people - most of them do continue to have dysphoria- they just don’t after transitioning find that it works to relieve them of that burden. That is a real thing. Talk to other desistors and detrans folks before you go around making yourself a life long medical patient.

If you’re dysphoric about gender roles or some shit like that - it’s all nonsense . All of these social gender things are nonsense . Be as extremely gender non conforming as you like - that’s every individuals right in the constitution. That doesn’t require being a medical patient for ever or for other people to treat you special.

I’ve interacted with multiple trans people in my life. I’ve attended transform , I’ve worked as a student to have gender neutral bathrooms in my law school - because I was young and stupid and did not realise I was working to undermine womens rights and safety. I have read your Judith butler. I’m just better at seeing through the BS now.

If you don’t believe you’re literally changing sex - why the need to use the opposite sex bathroom ? Why the need to be defined by the world - by legal papers as the opposite sex ? If you don’t believe that why do you want others to pretend to believe that ?

Gender identity is nonsense and not falsifiable . Please explain to me how we can test for gender identity- should we take it on faith that this is a real thing ? Are you sure souls exist ? What proof have we ?

I know of at least four people, going back to the 2000s, who ditched NLSIU for colleges abroad. Two for the US (non-law), one for Imperial (non-law), one for NUS (not sure which course) and one for KCL or UCL (not sure which course) . If you have the money/scholarship and you want to settle abroad, then why not? Also, NLSIU has the bridge course system, so you can study for your LLB abroad and return to India, if the NLSIU tag means that much to you (the tag counts for very little abroad though).

Please don't fuss over "Magic Circle" firms. It's an archaic term that excludes many A-list firms (just as "Ivy League" excludes Stanford, MIT and Caltech) and many excellent boutique firms with specialisation in niche practice areas.

The people on LI really give terrible advice! I wonder if they're just law school kids pretending to be experienced lawyers?

Nijjar's encounter is better/ more accurately characterized as a "Khalistani Assassination" and I take strong objection to it being described as just a "Sikh Assassination". Not all Sikhs are Khalistani. Fix that heading, it's false, inflammatory, and derogatory towards the Sikh Community in general.

What about Soho House? I was struck by this article by Vir Sanghvi, where he says he is a Soho House members and has access to all Soho Houses worldwide.

Any lawyers members? The cost is Rs 1 crore I am told. That's 5 times the fee of Taj Chambers!

https://www.hindustantimes.com/opinion/the-taste-with-vir-another-prejudice-bites-the-dust-101694508534465.html

Right. Because you have examples of folks who got into brown and ivy league schools and turned it down do stay in nagarbhavi ? Please name them.

The idea that the value that nls produces is owed solely to its exclusivity is just more casteist nonsense. How many kids opted to go to nalsar over NLS? Why are faculty leaving from nalsar and joining nls if nalsar is so much better? are they insane?

Not only Registrar and Hostel In change, even Director have come here to enjoy a vacation...he never be present at Campus and attend the students concerns, he have his own agenda to set up his family members here by use his political influence. Someone please check his presence at campus as he hardly stay here for sake of University.

Gujarat HC takes sou moto cognizance of rape and queerphobia at GNLU.

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/gujarat-hc-suo-motu-cognisance-allegations-of-queerphobia-rape-at-gnlu-8955789/

Why do people opt for these teams? The pay disparity between corp and these teams can be as much as 35 - 40%. Is it solely because of genuine interest? As a second year student, I have been told by my seniors to ALWAYS avoid interning under disputes / IPR teams. Furthermore, I have been told to stick to "conventional" fields like gencorp M&A and at most B&F.

Explain to me why you think the trans community has been historically marginalised ?

Hijra and trans are different things you know - hijras are castrated men or intersex men who will tell you they aren’t women - they’re a third gender. That’s a different thing than someone saying they have transitioned into a different gender. Here’s a Harvard case study that explains it :https://rpl.hds.harvard.edu/religion-context/case-studies/gender/third-gender-and-hijras

It seems to me that Hijra is just as much about being in a religious cult than not . A long standing religious cult, but a cult nonetheless.

So that cannot be who we’re talking about when we say they’re historically marginalised - they self segregate and perform these rituals and live in their colonies because that’s part of the religious thinking there.

Cross dressers - also don’t claim that they are literally the other sex. They claim that they’re men who like to dress like and make fun of women. Most of them live their lives as gay men. It’s a sexual interest for them - or maybe mocking women can be an identity- but that’s not really transgender.

Intersex people - or people with disorders or sexual development - aren’t trans . They too are born

Male or female - but due to a quirk of nature - their sexual development is inhibited in one of like 3 ways. Most intersex people don’t want to be teamed with transgender because a) most of them don’t know they’re different sexually than other people until they go to a doctor and figure out they have a medical condition. And b) they want to blend in to society - not stand apart from it and they don’t make any claims that they are transitioning to one gender or the other. They cannot literally change sex either. This would be like claiming kids born with missing fingers or limbs are a different thing than human or that the number or limbs human beings have is on a spectrum . Nah. It’s a disorder.

So okay not them - who else are we calling transgender ? The people with special souls that are telling them through stereotypes that they are male or female in the wrong body ? That is not a historical claim. There is no proof that this sort of stuff was done historically and these people were discriminated against.

All this really started with Judith butler and “ you’re married if a priest says you are man and wife so how is it different to say you’re a certain gender because you say you are “. Well Judith, that’s not quite right because I’m not nine feet tall because I say I am , even if I put stilts on. There is a different between how the social institution of marriage operates and how biological facts operate. There are specific things you have to do to become married - in every culture you have a ceremony and you have social recognition - this is because without that ceremony and social recognition it would be impossible who was married and who was not. Gender is not just about social recognition and ceremony. I do not become a woman because I wear or do not wear make up one day. And I won’t change sex if everyone in my life starts pretending im the opposite sex. I will still need appropriate healthcare for my sex which is a biological fact. This stuff is all a new claim. MTF and FTM is a new claim - and there’s no proof of historical discrimination.

Seriously - name a historical trans figure for me. Find me a historical figure from - let’s just say before the 1800s who believed they had a man soul in a woman body or vice versa who was discriminated against on that basis. I mean really trans - not gender non conforming which is just a man or a woman who would dress the opposite way , or do things not expected of them.

And the last bit of this is the demiboy, non binary, special gender folks - that community did not exist before tumblr and the late 2000s - not historically marginalised.

That said - I think that hijras are better off integrated into society than

Not . And I don’t think discriminating against anyone for the nonsense they believe is a good thing. I think all trans people should get jobs. I don’t think discrimination against any individual person is wrong because of what they choose to do with their body. I wouldn’t discriminate against a person because they have tattoos would I ?

But if they’re not able to hold down a job because they’re on pills that make them aggressive and unproductive. And they spend all their time at the office correcting pronouns and talking about how special their gendered soul is and bothering women in the bathroom - well that kind of behaviour - is not desirable in any new hire. We don’t mandate that employers hire a quota of people with schizophrenia or body dysmorphia or anorexia. Why is transgender different ? And why are there special set or expectations for these people when it comes to their work and their behaviour ?

This rhetoric about what rights people have - as if you can acquire new rights by proclamation without proving why you need those rights. And as if rights are this overarching concepts that cover all human behaviour and cannot be limited - is legally nonsense. Every other marginalised group has had to prove that they are marginalised - women, Dalits , obcs, even gay and lesbian and bisexual people. I can name you examples of those people throughout history who did experience discrimination. And there are legally defined limits to what rights these people have.

I still don't get you. What is wrong with two people trying to set up an individual practice? Are you just angry because they have foreign LLMs or because they chose not to stick with bigger sweatshops and decided to go solo? Just two days back this dude on LI was talking about setting up their own firm in a decade and everyone rushed to appreciate the person, as they should. What the F are you so salty about? If you don't like a particular institution or do not have the capacity to be engaged with them (also for your dumbass- I meant working with them, not 'for' them), maybe choose not to?

Also, as far as freshers from dingy law colleges go, most freshers from elite colleges are just as bad. That is just how legal education is and they need to be trained anyway for the longest time before they can be delegated with meaningful work. And given how different NLUs fight over their supposed superiority, bruh. Let people breathe maybe? Why hate people when you don't know them? And if you do know either the associates or the said partners, please feel free to enlighten us all rather than make broad assumptions (?).

Also, had you worked on your comprehension skills, you might have noticed that the 'good' was with respect to the names that came up as a reply to the question raised by OP, not just this particular thread about '2 ppl in the firm'.

I'm a newbie researcher in a policy making body. I research & write about everything under the international area studies and international law domain.

However, I've been advised to narrow down on specialisation in regard to improving my 'policy research and framing' career. Out of the following interests, which one do you see being extremely relevant in the next decade ?

1. International Space Law

2. International Environmental Law

3. International Digital Law

4. International Armed Conflicts

5. International Organisations Reform

6. TWAIL like theories

Dear Kian, your moderator recently struck off two videos that backed up my claims in this post -

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/285527-everyones-favorite-rupi-kaur-condemns-sikh-assassination-supports-right-to-self-determination-lets-discuss#comment-285660

These videos were interviews conducted by Barkha Dutt of the surviving family members of the Khalistani Terrorist Led Kanishka Hijacking - for her YouTube page, Mojo Story. The fact that this moderator felt the need to strike these off and call them propaganda has left me stunned.

The other thing that has my goat is how this moderator has sanitized the heading (for the main post) such that gives the Khalistan Plea credence.

Your moderator has acted in excess.

RMLNLU LUCKNOW has this beautiful policy now in 2023 of selecting candidates for its Ph.D. course who are its ALUMNI.

In 2023, out of 12 seats available in LAW at RMLNLU,

11 students were Alumni of RMLNLU (including B.A.LL.B. and LL.M.) and remaining was a guy from Lucknow University who was serving there as a GUEST FACULTY.

This policy has lowered the standards of RMLNLU and it will further go down with time.

No on campus placements, full on political recruitments, alumni quota and ji huzoori in Ph.D. will take down RMLNLU with time.

There is no going up.

LV is shallow. SS is shallower but acts as a modern day hitler. Neither of them is a lawyer. A post retired self obsessed government employee and a CA with BPO pedigree. They have no stakes in the game and hence are there to self serve. Together, they have and continue to cause immense harm to the firm. GL must see their back soon for the firm to have any hope of revival.

Exercise of RTSD is available only in cases of colonial domination. I cannot be exercised at the cost of territorial integrity of a country.

Reference-

1. In re secession of Quebec.

2. Chagos Archipelago case- ICJ

3. Declaration on Friendly Relations (customary International Law)

The numbers will increase in the coming years as more kids find out about the disadvantages of a such a huge batch size. Let’s be clear, the top few NLUs excelled because of their smaller batches and greater opportunities for students individually. That won’t happen with the larger batch size.

if you get into oxbridge then you may take loan (even if you do not get a training contract you can get a low level finance job and pay off the loan in 5-6 years), otherwise even at Durham/LSE less than 10% get into magic circle (so beware).

Remember that overseas students pay a substantial premium over home students in terms of tuition fees.

"Maximum Earning Potential"

Any Trilegal is a best paymaster at all levels (helps that there is no family that needs to hoard all the profits)

But yes most T1 partners do generally make atleast 75L-1cr as the starting salary. [Source:https://www.ambitionbox.com/salaries/khaitan-and-co-salaries/partner?campaign=salaries_widget]

Dost, feel free to join JSA. Its a great place to work for trans people. Won't say others are good/bad. But can pretty much assure you that at JSA you wont face trouble or any kind of discrimination because of your gender, whatever that may be.

Yes we have our fair share of problems. This aint one of them.

I want to say more, quote a few examples, to quell your f

Partner at TT&A here. We have a blanket anti-discrimination policy on the grounds of sexual orientation and gender identity. We are one of the first Indian law firms to enact such measures, following our best friends agreement with Linklaters. You're more than welcome to intern here, provided that your CV is good enough :)