Mediocrity is different from refusing to work hard and make efforts. It's not the university professor's job to spoon feed you or inspire you to make the most basic efforts. In no quality institution abroad does that happen. You are talking about teachers who don't work and I agree that such people exist. I am talking about the majority of law students these days who won't only refuse to put in work, but also expect good grades despite that. Those are the people who demoralise good teachers, who leave eventually if they have got options, leaving the floor to the worse ones who don't simply care.

These days, the divide is more about lazy and entitled students and hard working ones. The former will keep complaining about teachers unless the latter pander to them. They will make false allegations, undermine their authority and refuse to participate in new challenges that require hard work. That's why student feedback about faculty has lost its genuineness. I've known amazing teachers to be graded low and driven out simply because they won't give in to student demands for compromising quality.

People who can't live up to a high institutional standard do suffer, especially when they graduate, in their careers. But do professors who already have a career to cater to do ? Have you seen any professor held accountable for producing sub-standard teaching? If you imagine a class to be a ship; the students would be sailors, the professors the captain. Who should be punished if the ship sinks ? Who should take responsibility for not being able to pull these "parasites" from a level of mediocrity to one of high institutional standard ? There's a reason why despite studing for 5 years, kids still have to take up coaching for judiciary, since the college professors didn't do your job in the first place. So don't blame the students for a failure in standard of educational institutions.

Here's the difference. A student is not yet in their career mode, their still in their learning mode, and once they graduate the industry will automatically take care of them, i.e. those who are real achievers and hard workers getting their due. However, a professor is already in their career mode, especially in a profession which they've chosen. Yes, chosen. Since this isn't a subject like political science where you're limited only to teaching or govt job. Being a lawyer there are plethora of jobs, yet you chose teaching, therefore you should be held accountable for your time as one.

Moreover, a batch will always have a mix of poor, mediocre and brilliant student. This is where the difference comes in form a brilliant professor. A geniunely passionate professor will turn the tides around for the poor and medicore. But a lazy one will non chalantly

Rightly said. NUJS students are one of the worst among NLUs now. Don't do any work, always on the lookout for extensions, exemptions and undeserved grades, and lazy and entitled to the core. Even the guest faculty and alum who visit for credit courses agree to it. Instances of student malpractice in credit courses are already multiple. These people have driven away almost all the good faculty from the institution with their attitude and apathy towards education, nor do they appreciate the bare handful of good people still left. That's why it has become a distant fourth among law schools, way behind NLS, NALSAR and NLUD, and will be soon overtaken by NLUJ and GNLU too. The outcome of the Aditya Birla Scholarship fiasco this year is not enough to make them feel ashamed clearly.

Inhouse salaries depend a lot on sectors and companies, there are some sectors who pay their inhouse lawyers above T1 rates also. These typically require lawyers with a few years experience in niche regulated sectors like space, fintech (excl Compliance), renewable, SaaS, Web3/Crypto etc.

Basically think of any sector with a lot of non-Indian owned companies they are used to paying obscene USD fees so they pay a lot to inhouse resources.

Where as in other sectors such as IT, Manufacturing basically wherever legal is seen as a cost and not actually helpful salaries are low and hikes are poor you can only get a good hike when switching or where the company is really desperate.

As a fintech lawyer, use the products and understand how products work, see the big players in market what services they are offering and how they are structuring it. Most lawyers don't understand the market/product and want to specialise.

You should be excited and motivated to try out everything come out in fintech, and see how regulations that come change the products and how different fintechs deal with same issue in different ways.

I meet many lawyers who want to become crypto./web3 lawyers but have not even tried using DeFi or any smart contracts.

That is the biggest gap in fintech/TMT lawyers in India.

Senior/Equity Partner - Bringing the mandates and bootlicking the clients.

Salaried/Junior Partner - Strategizing the execution of the mandate and attending client calls.

PA/Counsel - Answerable to the salaried/senior partners and handle the entire deal execution.

SA - Answerable/give the 80% finished deliverables to the PA/Counsel who handle the rest after back and forth with the salaried partners.

Associate - Due diligence, research, filing and execution.

Intern (Merit) - Assist the associates with the research/due diligence. Not given filing and execution work unless they are on assessment basis due to confidentiality of the deal.

Intern (Contacts) - Mostly their parents are the clients so they go for multiple rounds of coffee, 100 smoke breaks and are later given the PPO.

I have done only his Company Law class so far. Never like the subject much, so didn't pay much attention TBH. But he was very kind to me and helped me through a difficult stretch. Huge positive in eyes. I have never seen more than a handful of kind people at this place. He's definitely one of them.

Rate your student app too. High time we separate the real high achievers and hard workers from the parasites who go in to buy a degree and then use their majority to coax weak admin to offer sops and inflated grades. People who can't live up to a high institutional standard should drop out.

The firms are not supporting Israel because their actions are legal. They are doing so because Jews hold a lot of the purse strings in the global business world, where their clients are from. As for what Israel supposed to do, plenty of things. That's the advantage of being a nation state and not a group of terrorists. They could have tried diplomatic pressure, economic blockades, approached UN and other bodies and even other Islamic countries to put pressure on the Hamas. Instead, they have opted for killing indiscriminately. They will be judged for that. If the Mossad is all that it is touted as, then it could even have opted for surgical operations to take out Hamas leaders without murdering civilians and non-combatants in the process. This way, they are just giving more fodder to the Hamas, who will get plenty of new Palestinians recruits, who have lost everything including their families because of Israel.

Good pedigree matters in this profession. Show it through your marks + the university you graduated from or your surname. Have both? You’re golden.

Harsh as this sounds, this is more pronounced in RR’s chamber, and I’ll tell you why. Of the names mentioned above, RR has the widest range/ potential talent pool to choose from. Thus, even the elites that join him, more often than not, come with solid credentials. And I say this with responsibility. Look at Karan Lahiri (a name on this list - https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/299408-seniors-in-1-lakh-range#comment-299496). He was RR’s chamber junior once upon a time.

So, stop wasting your time on LI, bitching about nepo kids, and get your act together.

Dare I say, networking at a Karkadooma or Rohini Court Canteen is time better spent.

Know where you are from. Accept what you've got. Put your head down and focus on the work - irrespective of whether your litigation career, however long / short, gives you a run-of-the-mill bail/divorce, etc, or a high-profile EPC Contract claim/ IP infraction, etc.

Focus on your Karma and bringing food to YOUR table.

Shouvik's PF classes were brilliant and really helped me during internships and later in the initial days of my law firm life. You are just angry because he is one of the few teachers who marks objectively and does not go for grade inflation. 2024 batch means online classes. Everyone knows how students attended classes and performed back then. Most teachers just gave away the marks. Few didn't.

That's nonsense! He [Shouvik] is one teacher who has never been known to mark anyone badly for any personal reason. I loved his PF classes and his Corp 1 too! If you don't study on your own, attend classes regularly and remain attentive, then you won't be able to follow his classes. That's true for any good teacher who teaches technical papers. He mentions many real life scenes to show how the law is applied too. He has also been very patient with students in class and outside who had any sort of doubt ever. A top teacher in my book.

This is more common than you think especially in Tier 1 firms. I would suggest that if you feel uncomfortable with this behaviour approach the HR/ Internship Mentor and try to get them informed about the behaviour of this associate. Mostly they would try to hush it, more often than not they would take the side of the associate unless it comes down to sexual harassment. I hope the circumstances change for the better ASAP for you. Take care of yourself.

As a former student who is in touch with juniors as well, I will give you a direct answer first followed by my reasons.

No!

1) Most teachers are inexperienced and don’t even teach the most basic parts of the subjects they teach. A lot of good teachers have left recently. Now the teachers who are teaching there are people who are pursuing PHDs from GNLU. They’ll leave soon if they’re good.

2) Placements are a nightmare. The placement cell is lazy and didn’t even approach any law firms for placements for the last two years. The placement record is absolutely awful. This year only 4/240 students are going to tier-1 law firms and they also got it via a PPO.

3) The college is not at all supportive in terms of co-curricular, extra-curricular and attendance. The rule is 85% and they are pretty rigid about it at times. Hence, students can’t pursue side internships as well because classes go on till 4PM from 9AM in the morning.

4) Life in Ahmedabad is difficult because a lot of firms in Ahmedabad are at max capacity and don’t easily take interns or give offers to people. Plus it’s not a city like Mumbai or Delhi or Bangalore where opportunities are endless.

5) The infrastructure is a hoax. The law building is a very small part of the overall university campus. Not enough classes so students are seated in seminar halls, reading rooms, etc.

So the crux is that academics are bad, zero support, and most importantly placements are at an all time low with the highest campus placement being that of 10 LPA (CTC).

The one thing that Nirma teaches a law student is to manage everything on their own. This is why you see Nirma recently performing fairly well in Moots, Debates, ADR and Publications. Very few of the batch of 300-320 (Yes new batches are of this size now) are doing good now.

Even a week before Diwali when no one was bursting cracker, why did AQI reached to Toxic level ? Ever wondered what was the reason?

Parali( stubble) burning by farmers in Punjab and Haryana was amin reason. while blaming Diwali very easy. Nasa has even relased many maps for observing stubble burning that have happening way before 2013. It very easy to blame on Diwali than to ponder why all pollution jn specifically Delhi js happened.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/82409/stubble-burning-in-northern-india

I feel like you don’t want to take up the issue or resolve it - you are just not accepting any ideas being offer here. In that case, continue with how it is or have some courage to take a stand for yourself. No one else will do it for you. This might sound harsh, but please do something about it and save others from this experience. If they don’t hire you or cancel your internship, good for you. No one would want to work in such a set up.

2 saal job krle - meet some people who are MBAs in profiles that you want. Understand the other side, if you still feel the urge, write GMAT and go to ISB. If you just wish to emigrate, work another year and do an MBA. Don't waste your years doing an MiM, especially when you have a PPO in T1.

OP was sleeping for last 10 days when AQI was F'ed without any crackers. But now is wondering how to take legal action against 10 year old kids who want to celebrate their biggest festival. He's bothered by crackers (that contribute for 7/8 hours of pollution before it warns off - IIT Delhi) on Diwali but unbothered on NYE.

Kejriwal told him it's Modi jis fault and this gullible lawyer larped on it. It literally will cost 30 Crores for artificial rains to clean entire NCR, but Kejriwal again wouldn't spend that and beg CG for it, just like his Punjab government won't shell out a penny to stop stubble burning and beg the CG.

If you are OMS ( outside Maharashtra Category),

Then, under All India Rank 70 you can expect GLC/ILS.

Cutoff drastically changes in MHCET, and as OMS carries only 24-24 seats in GLC and ILS, so work hard and ace it.

Cut off marks trend past years:

2019: 110-112

2020- 112

2021- 127 ( As exam was very easy, they asked questions like, "Taj mahel is situated on which river")

2022- 110

Above cut off marks are for OMS, MHCET is a game of luck for OMS. No matter how much you are prepared, but this is what it is.

(I've prepared for various Law entrance, and got a rank of Under 50 in MHCET 2022, however, I gave this exam in 2021 as well, and even was more serious back then, but didn't got GLC bcz of 127 marks cutoff for OMS)

2. Never join any other college, except GLC/ILS. Even think twice before these two too.

Have a nice day.

1. Well-fitted ankle length black/grey/beige trousers, with shirts and blouses. Avoid low cut necks, or anything strappy and see-through, obviously. Go with solid colours or subtle prints. Layer that with a black formal blazer. Formal dresses and skirts are also okay.

2. For Indian formals, you can wear suits, again solids and simple prints. Or you can pair kurtas with pant style bottoms (avoid palazzos).

3. For shoes, go with close toed black/nude pumps or block heels or ballet flats. 2-3 inches max. If you have to walk a lot in your commute avoid uncomfortable shoes.

4. The best tip I received from my seniors was “monkey see monkey do”. Wear what you see the female associates wearing and replicate that. Dress like an associate and carry yourself with confidence.

Compared to what ? MBA ? NO ! Data analyst? NO ! However, if you're a judge, an AoR, a partner, a civil servant within these 12 years than definitely worth it. In the end it's where you are at the end of the 12 years than matter whether it's worth it or not. Who knows you may earn in crores in these 12 years but by the end of it you may find your calling and become ascetic and turn into a monk, leaving behind all these glorified materialistic pursuits. We never know the end till will reach there.

No. 2 year litigation practice will add much more than a distance or even some regular degrees. Moreover COVID is done for, therefore anything online or distance loses it's credibility unless it's foreign. Better to invest 2 years in practice or improving skills. Otherwise, if you want a Masters degree do it from a regular full time university. Even IGNOU is better since you physically have to do a lot of things like admission and exams.

Zero in on a specialisation, check the faculty teaching and then proceed ahead. More often than not, higher education is about the people more than the institution. It's not like either is Harvard or Oxford and the name alone justifies the degree. Instead, focus on what you want to study, since higher education is a choice, not a compulsion in the legal field. Forget about the institution, see what you want after your masters.