Difficult question really.

Mumbai, tier 1 in a good team, the quality of work and learning curve will be high. But your work life balance is non existent and you will only be handling work work balance - on how to manage multiple deliverables while still managing bare minimum sleep. But the professional growth could outweigh the outrageously priced rents, the traffic, everything being expensive etc. If you are looking at it as a short gap 3 year stint nothing like Bombay work culture (in a good team), and there are overpriced but multiple fun weekend options in case you do get some time for a social life, but it’s not a city where you want to stay long term as a corporate lawyer can buy property or even raise kids cause schools are over priced and a good school is ridiculous to get into. I am talking about kids etc. assuming you will get some time to meet someone and that someone is okay with your ridiculous work timings.

But this is worth it only in a good team. An average team (work quality) or a toxic team in Mumbai would not be worth it. You might as well go to a good work team in another city because they may be doing better work.

Fairly cosmopolitan as well.

Delhi - I know this is limited to corp law so not mentioning the litigation and competition law advantage Delhi teams have which blows other cities out of the water.

What Delhi has going for it is that it’s much much cheaper. It may even be slightly cheaper than Bangalore etc. and it has a really well connected metro - infrastructure and roads wise can’t beat the city. That way it’s great. And there are some corp teams in Delhi that do some exceptional work, so your target should be them. However the number of these teams in Delhi that do really good work is lower than Mumbai - so chances are you may just be stuck with an average or below average team.

What delhi does not have going for it? Weather - like I mean what are those summers really? And the terrible pollution. And also office culture. Many still prefer a Sir Ma’am approach and strict hierarchy. It can be more toxic that way.

Also if you are: (I) a woman, worst city to live in of the three by miles; and (II) a non- Hindi speaker, it’s difficult to get by.

Bangalore - This is interesting because as a city to live in Bangalore is far better than Delhi and Mumbai (if you live close to where you work). The weather is for the most part pleasant all year round, the people are generally nicer (in law firms and in the city in general) and the city can provide for an excellent social life (the options for pubs and breweries is endless) and is generally a safe city for women. It’s your perfect settle down here city.

However, for corp you may mostly get a team that does small scale VC work including in most tier ones, except a very small sect of partners who have exceptional work where you won’t feel like you have missed out on a Bombay learning experience. The hours are also way better than Mumbai and more palatable than Delhi hours.

However, if you do land in a team that is not the super small sub sect identified above, or if you are not at Trilegal, your pay is lower than your Mumbai and Delhi peers (which is fine vis-a-vis Mumbai because what they get extra is off set by crazy cost of living, but not so much compared to Delhi). It’s then a trade off for better hours in Bangalore versus better pay and better work in Delhi.

It’s also pretty cosmopolitan like Mumbai, maybe even more so - you can get by with English and any one of Hindi, Kannada, Tamil, Telugu or Malayalam.

It’s an open secret that many Law School alumni have been approached. Two IP lawyers have been approached to be judges of the Delhi High Court, one of whom has accepted and one declined. Two commercial law specialists will likely be appointed to Karnataka and Madras, and the Calcutta HC is expected to get one as well. This decade, I expect at least 15 alumni to be appointed in different courts. As for Gopal Shanks, he will accept nothing less than a direct nomination to the SC (unless Jai Dehadrai goes John Wick on him and does something drastic).

You are talking about JIBS, which is a minor part of the university. Dr Sahni’s main role was in management of the whole university, being Naveen Jindal’s key person. His resignation may signal a big shift, as there are rumours that a retired IAS or army general may be appointed as Pro VC or Rector, to be an intermediary with the government (after recent controversies).

1. Columbia isn’t as selective as Harvard or Yale or Oxbridge. Same for LSE.

2. Reference letters matter.

3. Stop judging others. Spending a year abroad for an LLM is better than working like a slave for a Lala firm. And if you work in a very clerical legal department then you will gain more knowledge during an LLM.

That's because he's an idiot. It does not matter how one gets into law school, it matters what one has made of themselves while in law school. As a recruiter, I don't give a rat's ass about one's CLAT rank or reservation. A look at the CV and an interview of 15 minutes are enough for me to figure out whether the person would be a right fit for my team or not. If they have got internship experience in my firm, then I would get the feedback of the team that they have worked with. That's all.

While it's true that they don't test your mugging skills, it's also important to be hard-working and focused. Eloquence will only get you so far, at a certain point you have to sit down and do the work. As someone else has said on this thread, money is the answer. Need a good SOP? Pay someone (I know this is disgusting, but it happens). Need good references? Money. Need fancy community service in other countries on your CV even if there are people in your own locality who need help? Money. Non-technical interviews that test your language skills instead of your competence are a breeze for anyone who has grown up in a family that speaks English with ease. This is a result of privilege, not effort or competence

Read on whatever you intend to write. Do not restrict yourself to few papers/reports/blogs etc. Do not just read for the sake of reading, make notes on whatever you find useful and add your observations, especially when you have different opinion then that of the author/organization. Do not restrict yourself to one reading, especially when the text is comprehensive/important etc EG works of Shubhankar Dam on ordinances. Soon you would find exactly on what to write and how to go about it. Also see how other authors address the findings, analysis and opinion of the previous works. Ask yourself who you would support and why or whose arguments are more satisfactory and can you convey that more persuasively or with more supporting points etc. Last but not the least, be patient, I don't think there can be overnight success with regard to it.

It is a qualification criterion for applying for entry level academic positions like Assistant Professor at colleges and universities. Whether you land a job or not will depend upon vacancies, your profile, interview performance etc. The job applications are individual concern, UGC will only give you a NET certificate that you need to submit along with your applications.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/technology/bill-gates-says-three-day-work-week-possible-purpose-of-life-not-just-job-101700736695285-amp.html

In contrast to what Indian businessmen like Narayan Murthy say

US LLM's were never a big deal. US LLM's are more like a Jindal LLB. Do you have money? Accepted.

US LLM fees and living expenses come around rs. 1 crore + and unlike Canada or Australia settling and repaying the loan with an American job is difficult because of immigration restrictions. So competition is very low.

Hi

Depends a lot on the firm. Some like Vaish, DMD, ELP, AZB Delhi do a lot of tax litigation matters. Otherwise, tax teams largely do advisory and transactional work. For advisory, the work generally involves responding to specific queries of the clients. In transactions, it generally involves working on deals, structuring in the most tax efficient manner, negotiating W&I tax insurance. Additionally, tax teams in general spend a lot of time reading up on developments and writing articles (given how much the law changes on a daily basis).

Tax practice requires an enormous 'knowledge' of the law and familiarity with accounting practices, which takes years to develop. Freshly graduating lawyers from the 5-year programme are nowhere close to a CA in terms of their understanding of tax laws. Which is why a freshly minted CA would generally be preferable to a freshly minted lawyer for a tax team. Given how intellectually demanding this can be, lawyers do not often enter this area.

That being said, once that knowledge gap is bridged through self-learning, there is practically no difference between a lawyer and CA. In fact, there could be advantages to being a lawyer as well (depending on how much attention you've paid in subjects like contracts, jurisprudence, international law, constitutional law, admin law, family law, criminal law, etc.). Given the heavy jurisprudential nature of tax law, it has significant intersections with various other areas of law as well. You can also differentiate yourself by getting better at how technology works, as tax lawyers often have to understand the nuances of some tech for its tax implications. As you rise through the profession, these intersections are what set you apart.

In short, CAs and Lawyers both have their strengths and weaknesses. It all depends on how much you are willing to self-learn and reach into the domain of the other. Harish Salve began as a CA and developed a reputation as among the best tax litigators in the country. Nishit Desai began as a lawyer and developed a reputation as among the best transactional tax lawyers in the country. Nothing is really written in stone.

Buddy it's you who is coming across as insecured, ranting out your own self perceived greatness over attending some ramdom law school in a bizarre attempt to seek validation. The query is about transferability across countries. Unfortunately law is a jurisdiction specific qualification and isn't universal. Stop being so immature and lame.

I agree. People think an armed conflict or invasion means a total shut down. Which is not true. You can still visit the country, you can go as a tourist, you can go as a student, you can go for a job as well. Everything is still working. Just subject to emergency days where things shut down. People have not lived in conflict zones so they believe everything the media says esp the 24x7 bombings and war all around the country. It's always only in pockets. The only challenge is that there is no guarantee of peace. So yes, universities in Ukraine and in Israel and Palestine are still running.

This is the brain washing you gullible people are getting from the biased media. What was wrong in that comment ? That's the fact. It's the truth. Do you think colleges and universities are shut down in these places ? No, they're still running. It's just that there is no guarantee if you'll have classes everyday. Plenty of my friends still in Ukraine completing their studies. Classes are still running. But if you decide to be a coward and run away during a crisis, it's your fault. My friends are there, studying, and also helping with volunteer work when needed. Also I can't provide link here but Google it, admission for winter session is also taking place. While you're at it, check the MEA website as well, not every student returned, many stayed back. Amongst them university is still running. Specifically in Kiev. The only problem is people don't want to go to a conflict zone. But to say that nothing is running is false. You can still study there.

I will be participating in GLC's Dastur Moot next year in around May and June. Problem is, I am still a third year, and won't have Taxation laws till 8th Sem. I don't know T of Tax laws, absolutely nada. Never taken even a single tax laws class. I am as good as an 8th grader when it comes to this.

Any recommendations wrt what i should read, watch or listen that will take me from "taxes. what are those?" to being able to actually apply concepts and make arguments for the moot?

Only law subjects I have dealt with are torts, contracts, IPC, CRPC, Personal Laws, CPC, Evidence, Consti and Admin Law. Please help, i really need to get something out of this moot for my cv.

See the examination itself may not be rigged. You have a carbonised OMR sheet which itself proves the mettle of transparency plus the consortium doesn’t have the guts maybe to pull off something like this.

BUT there are some centres (especially in Pune and Maharashtra as a whole) where people got extra 30 mins to fill their OMRs. No one took any action.

Another insecure non-tier 1 student ranting out his insecurities here over not clearing IIT and presuming that everyone here is like him. "Should have studied more" is the grand old third class and grandparent generation level thinking that implies that people who take up law couldn't do better in other fields. Well guess what you are wrong? I am from T1 NLU who purposefully took a drop for law so that I can clear CLAT and get into a T1. My law school had friends who had left engineering to join NLS. And guess what I earn more than my doctor and engineer friends. So to each their own. But just don't vomit your bullshit opinions here.

Let me say this out loud. I know people from BO 2024 at NALSAR and NLUD who made it by paying 8 lakhs before CLAT. There is a whole mafia operating in this space. The NALSAR guy was from Bihar and somehow decided to choose a test centre in Uttrakhand. There were other people too who went to Uttrakhand from the same shady coaching centre but their exam centre was a NLU which had installed jammers and hence, the Bluetooth devices that they had attached did not function.

The set provided was a two-piece set where there was a belt and a small earpiece. The belt transmitted the signals and the earpiece which was very tiny in size picked up and played in their ears.

As far as the guy in NLUD is concerned. He did not even write his own paper. His OMR was replaced with a dummy one. He score somewhere around 18k in CLAT and somehow scored under 60 rank in AILET.

Even I was offered to do the same but then due to ethical and moral constraints I decided not to do it. The underground exam business is shadier than most of you will ever know. It is shameful and frightening at the same time.

Please do a preliminary research yourself to comprehend the scope of it before assuming that we are didn't look for it extensively.

If something is not there, it's not there. Dont always assume "there must be something on it".

Sometimes i think law is subjected to serendipity of luck. You can find a case within 10 mins someday and the someday you might not be able to find it even after spending 10 hours

Cant say anything for certain these days bro. Some peeps from my college (T2 NLU) with multiple T1 internships have not got a T1 or T2 job as of now and yet we have some peeps with below average internship record make to T1 after having worked at small places for the first year. It all comes down to the knowledge you posses and also some luck factor.

The only thing we can do is try.

Internships wont teach you much unless it is offline and the team likes involving the interns into the actual work apart from research assistance. You have to learn by yourself, avoid courses, learn by simple YouTube videos or articles (avoid LawSikho)

Please to give false hope to these delusional kids who haven't matured into the real world. Let's be real, law is not an easily transferable job, unless you go and do your masters/PhD from that country. Even then, they won't hire you just cause you're from a tier1. Literally had friends go to South Korea for their masters cause of kdrama and kpop, only to end up incurring a huge debt, no job there, racism faced and returning with no job here cause people prefer UK/US masters than one from East Asia. The only university that matters in asia with a good standing is NUS. Even then It's not easy to get in. So stop supporting such people. P.S. Japan is not SE but East Asia.

1. Just naming your handle something doesn't make you that, rather it displays signs of mental health issues.

2. Even if you had been what you claimed, I don't really care. Law firms or their people don't hold any special place of honour for me.

3. Unlike you, I don't like to parade my credentials, academic or professional. Both are way beyond your station.

All law entrance exams in India these days are rigged, especially high profile ones like CLAT and AILET. The individuals in charge of sensitive info are not screened or monitored in any manner. It's a business of crores with people willing to spend lakhs on shady coaching centres. Only once in the history of CLAT did a few individuals try to take on the coaching centres by delivering a different and unpredictable paper. There was a lot of backlash, but the batch that had got in produced some genuinely promising students across the law schools.

And how does this bother you?

Interviews in US does not test your mugging skills like they do here.

They ask behavioural and competency based questions and not like whats mentioned in section 42 of the XYZ act.

So stop being a jealous cry baby and be happy or the best would to stop caring about others.

And GPA is one factor. There are various other factors such as SOP, strong references, community service, interviews.

I hope this makes you sleep at night and help you little with your insecurities.

In clat 2020 there was an entire passage which came directly from the CL Mocks. Had I known the affiliation between mocks of CL and actual exams would have attempted all but alas. Know friends who scored 5/5 in the particular passage and ended up at better places.

Sad sad.

In the year 2023, around 11 people got top tier ranks from a school named Centre Point in Nagpur. How is this possible?

Apart from honest toppers like Rajat Maloo, Rishabh Shivani or Manhar Bansal- I haven’t seen people so many people ranking from a single school.

Then I have doubt on legaledge and their affiliation with ailet body. Are these rumours true?

Hi Kian and all the mods,

I've been seeing a lotta threads on these two particular senior advocates. Is it possible that we create a thread which is list of all possible questions and then mail it to Gshanks and RR and get an AMA done. Cause tbh I've been getting tired from all the Gshanks and RR threads and this ama would be a nail in the coffin to those threads. Not that I actually hate the people who post threads on these two distinguished gentlemen but we really gotta move forward.

I have transitioned as follows: boutique-MNC-T1-PSU-T1. All this in 9years. No wonder I had the best time (learning+personality development) with MNC, followed by T1. Every transition came with industry standard pay hike, except the PSU (in hand dropped by ~30%, but perks (non taxable) compensated for the loss). In house is a good experience, if in a MNC. Indian companies won't be able to offer the liberty/freedom to take the risk and the level of empowerment that MNC offers. Ofcourse, the culture of calling by names and not sir/madam is another advantage of working in MNC. You also get to work on foreign jurisdiction matters.

In terms of work-life balance, there was no actual work in a PSU and so I had the best personal life. Also "job security" is something that only a PSU can offer. There's no learning, you've to blindly follow your boss' instructions. The survivor gets promoted, ofcourse he has to be aligned with the management. While you might be working in the so called "your field of interest", the majority of your tasks in a PSU would be menial, stupid, mindless..

See, As I've given the above "featured" answer. As per my own analysis of every MHCET LAW til now, there is no chance of getting ILS for OMS below 110,

Sometimes it may go till 108, but not beyond. And don't join any other college of MHCET, if you are not from "Mumbai" itself.

Consider some other options. But yes, MHCET is a game of luck, and that's all. No matter now hard you have prepared, it's always probable.

And sorry to say, MHCET is such a exam, where there is zero transparency,

There is no release of Questions paper, No answer key, No clear details of How they performed normalization among the shifts, and giving 90% reservations to MH people. Don't blame yourself for scoring such marks, it's not your fault, it's the way normalization happens.

( The above thread is for MHCET LAW 5 YEAR, Not for 3 YEAR CET exam)

Its only when you leave you realise… why are we working so hard to fill the pockets of the son and daughter.

Show me on transaction they can handle on their own without any other partner or capable PA. I have seen the daughter run away from negotiations the moment she is asked to be there all on her own.

Fedualism at its best and the arrogance of the son… how come close friend tanmay left working for the son?!

When is CAM going to introspect?