https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/education/iit-kharagpur-bags-over-700-placement-offers-on-day-1-6-above-rs-1-crore-4628431/amp/1

This just in. One IIT can get 700 jobs on campus. All NLUs together can't. What law schools and students should do?

Can you please specify the firm and team you are in?

I would definitely like to avoid the (admittedly) toxic environment that you are creating (I say this as a person who does the work cause you will create antagonism towards peers and toxicity in the team).

Rather than taking this approach, try being an adult or a responsible senior and educate the incoming juniors.

I'm a fifth year student, and direct tax interests me quite a bit. Have done internships in 2 T1 firms, but they have very strict policies about not hiring fresh college graduates with no experience.

Additionally, from the research I have done, direct tax seems to mostly comprise of individuals who have done CA and then LLB.

Should I give up on direct tax and find another field to focus my efforts, or it it worth pursuing. Other than this, I mostly have litigation internships (1 in direct tax) so switching to other departments will be very difficult.

Any leads for potential internships would also be appreciated. I have less than a year to graduate and the panic is starting to set in.

My enrollment certificate was uploaded incorrectly. Wrong enrollment number was uploaded.

No Judgements please. Please no troll comments. Exam is on 10th.

It happened because my State Bar Council didn't give a proper enrollment number and gave a registration number. And asked everyone to re-upload certificate. Long story...

AIBE admit card tells this - - Remarks: If your documents are incomplete then please complete the same before the date of result, to avoid result from being withheld.

Which means there is still some time when something can be done.

What can I do? I can't find any place where I can make any corrections. Where do I re-upload the documents and make the changes in enrollment number.

Any advice is helpful.

Hi, I have tread the same path as you..please don't be bog down by nasty comments pulling you down. You can easily switch from lit to boutique law firm by justifying your reason to switch. Since you have prepared for judicial services, you will be having first hand knowledge of bare acts so that aspect won't be difficult for you. You should apply for A0 post in boutique firm and stay there for a year or more and switch to tier-1/2 as the case may be. In the interview I was posed the same question of why I want to make the switch. And I answered that corporate side of law is something interest me and after having worked in court I am more aware of what types of agreements, contracts and clauses should be incorporated so as to stand the test of court interpretation. Then the interviewer asked me to give some example, then I answered that cancellation of instrument is provided in SRA but court never cancels an instrument since they presume that something is written in black and white was deliberated between parties and now due to some foul play one party is asking for cancellation. This is just a psyche of court which only a lawyer who practised in court will tell.

The fact of matter is that the switch is possible provided you are prepared for tough question in interview. I took coaching from Rahuls, then simultaneously practised in court and gave many mains and then worked in companies and thereafter went on to pursue GC in law firm. Sbkch possible hai agar tum chaho toh. Abhi bhi mains dera hu company mein kaam karte2. Life bht lambi hai, career sirf ek aspect hai itna stress met lo. All the very best. I hope you find your godot.

Bhai kuch chize tere hath mein nahi hai. Is chiz ko samjh aur apneap ko kismat k hath chod de. Good things will surely come your way, sometimes overthinking creates a lot of problem. Jsey bure log mile hai vese ache bhi milngey. Aur control nhi hora toh engage yourself in different activities, matlab ki sochne k samey hi na ho. We all go through it. You will safely and surely pass this storm. All the best.

I just checked the official RGNUL placement statistics and found that the batch of 2023 had 31 Corporate placements. I was a little heartbroken until I asked a senior how many people there were with the Business law specialization, It turned out that hardly 42 people took business law as their specialization. Further, the numbers for the batch of 2024 are coming out pretty great also.

Link to the Rgnul placement statistics page - https://www.rgnul.ac.in/162/placement-statics.

Link to Placement cell page to keep track of the next batch's placement: https://www.linkedin.com/company/placement-cell-rgnul/

indeed, sudheer has publications. Indeed they are good, but thats it. But what has been the impact of those publications? how much has it influenced other scholars and thinkers? what is his contribution to legal thought? I dont think his scholarship is not worthy enough to put him in a list of top scholars. very good scholar - but not a top one.

KCo hasnt increased their fresher pay for the last 5-6 years while rent, college fees, and yes billables too have been increasing. Idk how do these law firms keep getting away with it. The bubble will burst soon when in house fresher salaries catch up soon and everyone and their uncle will these firms.

You're not the only one going through it.

Same happened with me when I encountered egomaniacal psychopath toxic boss in my CS intership at one of the top companies.

Nevertheless, I left the same in 7 months but still get constant self doubts.

Also, one of the colleagues there had same panic attacks there and left after an year and is now doing decent.

But, ultimately you'll overcome it.

While I definitely agree with the earlier comment, however, some students have managed to get Pre Placement Offers on their own. Across a batch of 200, roughly 10-12 students have received PPOs from decent law firms (tier 1 and 2).

You cannot solely rely upon the RCC to get jobs, one should step out and leverage the alumni network to score decent opportunities.

Keeping this aside, the RCC of SLS P does invite a lot of banks, startups and in-house corporates to campus. While the packages offered are quite average (8LPA-10LPA), it has helped quite a lot of students to at least begin their career.

I dont understand your point, the ppo is based on the team HR and the people in the team? yeah, that is the point. If i want a PPO in the Banking team, i will intern with the Banking team. As compared to placements where people are given random team which are not even in their preference? Being ranked <10 doesnt add shit to my team compared the PPO guy who has already interned here, knows the team well how it functions, most importantly knows the job and does it better than entitled kids who dont want to be trained. The PPO kid has been trained 3-4 months during the internship already.

Due to the practice of skipping breakfasts, having late lunch and having dinner at 11 PM, I have developed GERD. It's compounded by late nights spent researching. I've found having dinner at 7:30 PM helps. I was in independent practice for a while when I developed this habit. Starting a new job and wondering if it is okay to have dinner at this time? I'm hoping to exert to my team - I will work late if you want me to. But I'll have my dinner on time. Thoughts?

Conjectural stuff that we hear a lot from teenagers. I was like that too, the whole "if I worked harder, I would've been the topper" nonsense. But the point is, you aren't. Maybe you have the "potential" but you haven't achieved NLSIU, so don't paint CLAT with the brush that it's super easy to crack into the top 100 or so. With better preparation comes higher expectations from yourself and more pressure, and in the exam environment, you can crack under that and get a lower score than you would "without as much preparation". Kids that secure the top ranks manage all of that including prep well.

Exactly true. Tier-1 NLU kids will tend to be entitled because of the university tag, but OP is generalising by claiming everyone is shit. Firms will still hire from the tier-1 NLUs because the kids come through a certain level of quality control, and by and large, they are able to grasp legal matters faster and better provided their attitude doesn't come in the way.

Yes ofcourse, don't be complacent now that you have secured an offer. Improve your time management skills. Be well versed with the work done in the team you have been allotted. Not just the law part but also how the business aspect works and the documents you might need to work on / due diligence you might need to do. If you really want to learn don't behave like an entitled person, you were entitled to certain things because you were in a good NLU/University. Similarly you will need to earn that entitlement afresh in your new firm, which you certainly won't be able to as an A0. It is a slow process but you need to be accepting of the change.

I am sure some of you have faced this.

Being a Non-NLU student in final year with decent internships including T1 (without contacts) as well, but not able to secure a PPO worries a lot.

On the flip side, I will surely be having >>70% hence MPJ is easier, aiming for DJS as well? Should I prepare for judiciary exams?

Tier 1 Partners, most of them and particularly the salaried ones, are still 'employees' at the end of the day who just happen to make a lot more than a regular employee. They are dependent on someone else, mostly the Name Partners, for their livelihood.

This profession becomes more stressful when you know the client is not yours, and even the money you make does not come owing to your own brand or reputations but someone else's. It stressed the Partner, most of whose emotional intelligence also gets compromised a number of times.

If you have chosen to work in a Tier-1, you need to be ready to handle the stress, knowing that most of the times the hard days are a function of these circumstances.

Hello - this question is for all litigating lawyers and people in disputes teams of law firms.

What would you recommend someone joining the profession in 2024/25 to do (apart from having basics of CPC sorted) in college to prepare for the kind of work that will be there?

Please also recommend some soft skills that you think are useful for this area of work! (or basically anything you feel you should've focused on more in uni)

Thank you so much!

Yes, this is true. You cannot trade in companies where you have been involved in transactions.

To answer your question, firm does not check your trades. Your contract provides for clauses that you will abide with the firm's trading polices which includes taking prior permission.

Hi, I'm so sorry to hear that, I hope things turn around for you soon. I'm from SLSP 2024 too, and you've neglected to mention the PPOs that people have got. There are two who got into CAM from our batch, one got into Trilegal, one got into Khaitan, and two got into Baker McKenzie (London office). And these are just the ones I know of, and I'm not someone who is very active on instagram or keeping track of the batch gossip. I know some people have gotten into SAM too, but I'm not sure who - people are being very secretive about this in this gloomy employment scenario.

About 10 people got into Argus and they're paying 16LPA, so that's really something, even if it doesn't have the Tier 1 tag. ICICI hired someone, and they're paying 16 LPA too. There were a bunch of random insurance companies, the pay isn't as good but on the bright side they're hiring people with below average cgpas, too. There are a bunch of people interning at T1s and T2s now, and I'm very hopeful that they'll make it there. Since we don't really have a minimum attendance requirement in 5th year, we have a huge advantage compared to T2 NLUs that have only one shot left - the winter internship break.

I know that it's not fantastic overall, but the other colleges are suffering too, it isn't just us. In the end, placement seems to be based on a bunch of factors outside our control - the general hiring status, which depends on the hiring of the previous year, economic factors, expansion possibilities, attrition rates, etc. If we had been in 5th year last year, we'd be singing a completely different tune about placements.

AZB, for example, hired 16 people in total last year from SLS - including the disputes team and PPOs. This year was very disappointing, because we expected a similar number based on the number of people shortlisted and the multiple rounds of interviews conducted. Through campus placement alone, Trilegal hired 10 people last year but they cut it down to 5 this year. They have given assessment internships to a few, though, let's hope that it leads to something. This isn't because our batch is better or worse than the 2023 batch, it's factors entirely outside our control. Anyway, I hope things turn out well for you. Good luck, stay hopeful!

Why are you expecting someone to work daily till 10 PM? Who agreed to such short deadlines? Didn't you take into account the number of hours someone needs to put it for the deal to go through while signing the mandate? Staying in the office till 10-10:30 once in a while is fine; however, if its the norm, then Mx PA, the problem is you and your partners and not your juniors. Your juniors too are human, they need time for themselves too and they have already slogged 10 hours for the day.

Staying in the office till 10-10:30 PM on a daily basis is a testament to the fact that your office lacks WLB and has a bad culture.

You too would have been wishing too leave early in you A0/A1/A2/A3 days but couldn't. Now, when you are at a position to make things better, do them, make law firms a better places to work.

The quality of placements at SLS Pune is declining, which is causing its reputation to suffer over time. 80% of the 2024 batch students are currently unemployed, and no Tier 1 companies are showing up for placements. Only AZB took 2 students, and Trilegal took 5. KCO decided to cancel SLS this year. Out of a batch of 200, less than 10 students will be hired by Tier 1s. Our RCC is inefficient, and can't figure out how to properly leverage their alumni network. The college does not even have a Zero Day, and they rely on random in-house companies to come and save their students. For a college that was ranked 3rd by NIRF in 2022, this is an embarrassment. I regret joining this college and would advise you to retake CLAT instead. It's not worth it.

Milbank, Cravath, Proskauer, BakMac have all announced raises for their respective paybands. This is being done in lieu of the American inflation crisis.

Trilegal raised paybands a while ago. Has S/CAM, KCO, AZB shown interest?

Sources:

1. https://abovethelaw.com/2023/11/milbank-raises-associate-salaries-and-announces-year-end-bonuses/

2.https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/cravath-announces-raises-upping-pay-ante-large-law-firms-2023-11-28/

Most of the days at T1s are very deal sensitive and teams ends up working till 10 - 10:30 P.M. before calling it a day. However, its good to read the team discipline and blend synergies with respect to the style of working, hours and temperament to distributing the work among colleagues/interns. Nobody is saying that leaving the office at 8 is bad but if the seniors are still grinding it out, they would always require some extra hands on the work at stake. In such scenarios, as a PA - I would appreciate people who would atleast ask before they leave or take up a small chunk of work making our lives easier the next day. But each to its own, everything to the fresh pool of talent nowadays is "toxicity" or "lack of work life balance" or "bad culture."

You will find such maggots everywhere, don't pay them any heed. You placement in law school depends what you do there, if you don't do anything for 5 years you won't get a job, but if you willing to put in efforts, sooner or later, you will get what you deserve. Take whatever college you get but nothing below NLUO/RGNUL/HNLU otherwise it will be very tough.

Amity Law School Delhi, which used to be affiliated to IP University has shut down. The last batch passed out in 2022. The only Amity that exists now is Amity Noida which is one of the worst law schools in Delhi NCR. Even Lloyd Law College would be better than that

There was absolutely nothing similar between Amity Delhi

Working at a tier - 1 from one of the colleges named above. Got there without any jugaad, despite family being from the legal profession. I agree that most of my colleagues back in college were dumb fucks, but don't undermine everyone who has studied from one of these colleges.

What about the batch of 2023? How was the placement of that batch? 2024 campus placements have ended? What kind of jobs did 2024 campus placements get and what's the salary range? So the others either have to get a PPO in the remaining time left before graduation or apply and try to get a job right?

I work at a T1 M&A practice and most of the 2023 hires leave by 8, dumping the work on interns. It is crazy how entitled kids with grades become throughout the course of 5 years.

Remember: grades can get you through the door, not through the due diligence for the $$$ deal.

Then you don't need to listen to anyone except your own heart. Though many people advised me against joining law firm but still I joined to not regret later in life. You have to experience something before coming to judgement. So it's better to make the switch early otherwise after 5-6 yrs of PQE you won't like to join as an A0, ego ajti hai. Pay is definitely well in law firms there is no doubt in my mind. And to be honest, the quality of law firm lawyers are way better than in house, it's just the work culture and stuff is bit toxic. However, I hope you find intelligent and nice colleague.. All the best.

Looking for a legal internship in a law firm for May 2024, I'm from a non-NLU university but I have honed my skills to be at par with an NLU student. I'm flexible with the location, but prefer Mumbai, Delhi, Hyderabad and Kolkata. My area of interest lies in white-collar investigations. Would love to receive any leads. Cheers!!

Hello all, Looking for a legal internship in a law firm for May 2024, I'm from a non-NLU university but I have honed my skills to be at par with an NLU student. I'm flexible with the location, but prefer Mumbai, Delhi, Hyderabad and Kolkata. My area of interest lies in white-collar investigations. Would love to receive any leads. Cheers!!

Get it cleaned from somewhere, and handover the rag to the associate in front of other associates/SAs/PAs/Partners. That is what I would have done, even at the cost of being fired from the internship. It would have been worth it.

P.s. during one of my internships, a partner scolded me for no mistake of mine, and i was planning on throwing him out of his 20th floor office window. The good thing is that he didn't come to the office for the next week, and when he came and asked me to meet him inside his office, he asked me if I had smoked. And I told him -"yes, do you have a problem", and the schmuck didn't say anything to me. I wouldn't divulge what happened next, but i work in tier-1 (2nd in a row). No job is as important as your self respect/ dignity.

Hi peeps, I need a few suggestions on how to handle this situation. I left a tier -1 job a few months back because of a toxic partner (he was not your average toxic partner, the average duration of any associate working with him is 4-5 months). I would be joining another T-1 in a few weeks, and I feel a knot in my stomach. I don't know how to overcome this entire situation. During the interview, the partner was very nice, and I have heard good reviews about the partner, but I am still scared (and when I say scared, I mean really really scared). Any tips/hacks/life pro skills would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Subjects you learn and what you actually end up doing are very very different. But the thing about RE is it differs from state to state and city to city. There is a book called Tijoriwala on Conveyance, that is a good place to start with. However if you want to make a RE Heavy CV you first need to decide on the state you want to practice in, so that the more you know about laws in that state more employable you become. Once you do decide on the state start to read up on all legislations make by that state on Land, Tenancy, Development and Infrastructure Laws.