Capmarks barely makes offers due to the small size of team which does more advisory and less dealmaking as against the base in Mumbai (where the aggressive hiring is done). That being said, Employment, Projects and TMT is the strength in the Delhi turf with great partners and smart teams. Transactions may be a tricky bet due to the trio exit this past month; moreover SK/RA's which is a high billing team prefers laterals and not freshers. If possible, shift your internship to the Mumbai office where callbacks are easier to grab.

Gave CLAT PG, and scored decently given my limited time for preparation. High chances that I can get any University amongst NLIU/GNLU/RGNUL. I have graduated in 2023 and have been interning at different places for some months.

I wish to go for career in academia. Considering the remaining six months, how best those can be utilized keeping this goal in mind.

Are there Professors who could accept my applications for online assistant research positions and which I can use to streamline my experience along with publications in a particular specialization? Or should I consider going for litigation based experience? What are other options?

Hi, I am a student from NALSAR (got in through General category for UG in my 1st attempt and I had cleared JEE Mains also). I think I would be the right person to answer this Q. The rest of the comments (mostly by T-3 NLUs kids can be ignored in this thread.

So, I also gave CLAT PG yesterday, and had prepared extensively for it.

But, to my utter shock, I was literally stunned to see the ppr, literally STUNNED. Even the JEE Mains ppr was easier to score, not even joking. The Consortium gave such useless, irrelevant Qs that even knowing the answers to those Qs was so v redundant. They gave 24 Paras to solve in 2 hrs, instead of the usual 12. The Qs were too complicated and it essentially became a guessing game where the ppl who got the more no of guesses right would score more marks.

It was basically a ppr which only a utterly dejected person(s) could make, who would derive sadistic pleasure by seeing the pain of the students. The Q ppr makers gave Qs which were even more difficult than the DJS Q ppr. And all of this was unexpected.

And to all those who r saying that if was difficult for everyone, they have missed the entire point of the thread.

Don't know about PPO scenes, but TMT and Cap Marks are their finest practice areas. In disputes they don't give PPOs. Easy to get in M&A (transactions, as they refer it) but their M&A is getting dry after exit of 3 partners who had good books. Employment, again one of their good practice areas, but haven't heard about PPO scene lately.

The problem with armchair experts is that they often tend to make unwarranted remarks to compensate for their lack of a deeper understanding of the laws. Sharing the Wikipedia link knowing fully well you won't care to read the judgment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oxford_v._Rameshwari_Photocopy_Service

Hey, won't blame you for what you did, probably the most practical way out of the situation, one which you should have never been in.

Yet, it's absolutely bs what you were made to do. To those saying it's deserved don't get the implications of the actions of the associate. This act is not a mere 'clean after yourself' etiquette lesson, but a plain egotistical and sadistic move.

Hope the news reaches the higher authorities who see the bs for it is and do something. Stay strong

If you can complete CA, then go for it and then do 3 year llb from anywhere( your law school after CA really does not matters).

CA is and will always be superior to LLB. But its also 10 times more tougher.

Just to put things in context, the corporate law exam in CA-IPCC covers the companies act, indian contract act, negotiable instrument act, general clauses act, interpretation of statues. All of this is ONE SINGLE EXAM. You will study these acts as different exams in multiple semestees during the course of your LLB.

In short, CA is way more superior.

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It is clear that you don't know how CLAT works. There is no cut-off marks for admission. If the paper is tough and everyone has scored low, then also the same number of people will get the seats, despite having scored lower marks compared to any other year. If on the other hand, you have scored low and others have scored higher despite the alleged toughness, then that's a reflection on your relative ability and not on the paper. They prepared better than you and would get the seats.

As a student who had taken that course, I can say that it was a good experience. We did not spend time talking about Harry Potter as such, but rather use Rowling's works as a lens through which one can discuss legal, socio-economic and political issues. The classroom discussions and assignments were both fun and interesting. The faculty did encourage us to keep asking questions and present our own viewpoint, which does not always happen in law school in my experience.

Yes, it's very much possible. In fact, regardless of whatever the consortium may represent to you, you may deregister from any Indian university within three months of taking admission and the university may only retain a nominal fee (less than 5k) in case you exercise that choice by then. That's what the UGC prescribes.

As someone who is familiar with the students, faculty and admin of both the places, I can advise you to select NALSAR at this stage. The faculty are more or less similar, but NALSAR faculty don't have toxic and petty rivalry and feuds going on between them beyond what's expected in any institution. NALSAR students are at present of much better quality, chiefly because NUJS admin, students and some faculty have collectively destroyed the academic standards of the place over the last three-four years. NALSAR admin is hands down way better, with the current NUJS VC not caring about any academic standard, but busy about appeasing students with easy grades and attendance and his political support with other promises, all the while taking decisions bad for the university.

The number of seats for CLAT PG is fixed so irrespective of the difficulty level, the same number of students will get in.

It's actually good that they have increased the difficulty level. Only serious and good candidates should get in and not some random grad with a 2month long prep.

The brand is for the BALLB programme. Nalsar is also a good law school right? Why do LLM students struggle to get opportunities?

Students from LLB/LLM course don't get placed, look at Symbiosis and other colleges that have 5year as well as 3 year courses.

Sudhir came up with this 3year LLB shit cuz he needed money for funding the infra development without compromising on the quality.

Only people who fare badly complain about the toughness of the question paper. If anything, CLAT PG entrance isn't hard enough. The quality of LLM students across NLUs these days is shocking to say the least. How they cleared even LLB is suspect. Masters isn't a joke, nor an essential degree in the field of law. If you are not good enough, then you should work hard and not grumble about the paper's toughness. It's high time LLM aspirants either improve themselves or else remain content with their LLB degrees. Many students join this programme with the absurd hope of landing a job simply because they would spend a year at an NLU, or as time pass while preparing for the judiciary or other competitive exams. All of them should be weeded out of the system.

How did he demolish Mamata exactly? He didn't manage to do anything other than be a temporary nuisance in the state and got himself the VP post in return. Mamata's reign still continues. We have got a dictator in charge of the country and another in that state, both corrupt, authoritarian and power hungry.

You had all the time in the world to make the correction while the correction window was open. Now once the admit card is out, then you are realizing it? The Bar Council has atleast emailed us a dozen times notifying us to give the enrollment number and not registration number.

If CAM is so bad, and it's written about so much on this platform- which is mostly inhibited by college students these days (or at the least accessable), why do you sit for the interview ? Save yourself right then?!

Or that you all just want to whine and are snowflakes to deal with real life?

Too much work is toxic? Lol

I submitted my resume for an opening at ELP's Indirect tax team. My cv is decent and so is my experience. I talked to two people they have said they will circulate my cv to the partner and I should be prepared for the technical round.

Can someone give an insight as to the selection process, when I can expect a call for an interview?

Ps:- CS, LLB & 2 years experience in IDT

No man. SLS students can also be mad at their college if it doesn't help them get a job after 5 years of work and heavy fees. It's not that these students aren't good. Almost everyone has at least 2-3 Tier-1 internships, moot wins, and decent publications in our 2024 batch. All they need is an opportunity and our college is not helping. Don't know how worse it's going to be for the upcoming batches.

REAL Estate practice area. You must be damn good at local language. Tier 1 firms may not require local language expertise. But it definitely matters. You must be able to read, write and speak the language.

Delhi - Hindi, Kolkata - Bengali and Hindi, Bangalore - Kannada, Chennai - tamil likewise

Hiring for A0 happens all through the year. Try connecting with as many recruiters and partners of law firms so that you get early update.

A personal recommendation: Anagh of crewt consulting is the best guy in recruitment. Bharagava sisters, legalleague etc., are total sham.

my foot. Judges are easy to blame as they are immune anyway. A vast majority of Judges getting arbitration are corrupt.

Guess who nominates such corrupt judges?

Top Law Firms and Counsels. The system's rot is the half baked counsel trying to pass off as an arbitration counsel. They even take a cut from the proceeds that go to the arbitrators.

Do you know why judges are easy to appoint. They are used to taking a bribe from the corrupt counsels when they were judges. Hence the reliance on judges.

Try being honest in arbitration. You will be staring into an abyss

I am a JEE aspirant counselling of college thru JEE starts in july , but counselling of NLU start in jan itself , So i wanted to ask if I get a NLU can i take admission in it as a backup ?
if i get good colleges through JEE in the july , I will leave NLU ?
is it possible?

I do have interest both of this field and would like to peruse any of the two.

I cleared the interview round aa affirm and got t job. The only catch? I would have to relocate to Indore to firm’s corporate office since Delhi (which is my place) has only litigation and disputes practice. I asked them to give me remote working or allow me to report to delhi office but they didn’t consent. What should I do, move to a smaller town or let it slip?

Hi, I'm doing an Internship in some tier 3 law firm in Mumbai and today is my first day and as of now, I've got no work from associates. I've reached out to them twice but they said that they'll let me know. What should I do now? I'm worried about whether I'll be able to learn something new from this internship.

To all those ppl who gave CLAT PG today, I have complete sympathy on you. We all are just so numb now, what an unexpected and absolutely meaningless Questions were asked

Should we start a petition for re-exam or giving 2 tries to students just like JEE does and better rank be taken?

Try and see if you get an internship and then possibly job in any of the following places:
Khaitan, LKS, ELP, SAM Delhi (Mumbai only had 1 partner, who has left and joined another firm), NDA, Trilegal. All these firms have good direct tax practice wherein you should get a healthy mix of international and national direct tax work.

Honestly don't get the fanaticism with former judges as arbitrators. There are so many trained arbitrators bringing specific skill sets of being flexible, as what distinguishes litigation. Judjeship will become a stepping stone to eventually make a bank as arbitrator. Close knit groups, as with litigation must be discouraged.

The profession of law is respected in countries that actually respect the law, Example USA, South Korea, Japan, Canada, Britain, in these places law is a respected profession, however you only have to walk the streets here to see how well law is being respected, also there law will have much more competition because it pays well there so chances are we would not have cleared clat if law was respected here

Hi, my heart goes out to you. I have been in a similar situation where my partner (Lit) used to hurl abuses and taunt me all day long. Once he grabbed me from my collar in court because he could not find page in the file which was actually paginated by me. Tbh I wanted to just leave him and just do nothing, but career, money, backup etc stopped me from resigning. I used to prepare myself for every single day and stopped over thinking of why, what and how of life. Looking back now, no doubt the time spent in his chamber was daunting, toxic and extremely tough but it has prepared me the person I am today, this goes without saying that knowledge learnt in his chamber still helps me alot today. I would suggest you to consider this work as just one aspect of your life and not overthink about it, keep your focus on family, loved ones, pets, friends etc. And inculcate the habit of switching your mind completely out of law. You are not a crybaby rather a baby of a human having emotions, passions, feelings... Don't worry this time will pass soon, just keep in mind that you have an example of people that you should not become once you gain experience. Now I handle teams under me, and try to give them as much freedom as i used to expect from my senior. All the best buddy.

That is what societies are like. Newer generations are and should also be better than the previous generations- due to better technologies (ease of getting information), change in way of teaching pedagogy, better development in the legal field itself. Every new generation would know more than the previous ones- and that is how it should be. As Steve jobs said old must make way for the new. That should not be a reason to intimidate you! What advantage they may have due to the advantages they have, older generations compensate with experience.

Its a specialized firm without much PR. They kill it in every aspect of Finance i.e. commodity finance, sustainable financing, high yield DCM and ECM (not IPOs, but OFS and QIPs). Its a typical T2 Wadia Ghandy modelled firm which pays well at the senior levels and follows the "eat what you kill" format for different teams (this ultimately determines the junior level pay from what I have heard from their past associates - who now work with my team). That being said, Amit and Rajesh push way above their weight in every transaction involved and hold great goodwill by many domestic and international banks in the Mumbai circle.

[https://www.barandbench.com/news/arbitration-india-tight-fist-grip-retired-judges-vice-president-jagdeep-dhankhar]

Present VP of India, has also made some bold remarks in the past. Latest would be his remark over arbitration space being dominated by Retd Justices of Constitutional Courts.

Rant , Vent , Opinions below :-

A Lamborghini is peanuts for a Big 7 partner, especially if married to another Big 7 partner. But as Indian roads are not conducive to sports cars most people settle for a premium Sedan instead (for 80 lakhs or so) and spend the difference of 2 cr on buying property, luxury watches, foreign holidays, club memberships etc.

Recently, I read a post here by an intern who described how she had to clean a tablecloth over unintentionally spilling coffee. It made me recall my own bad experience at a particular "tier-one" firm where I was interning this summer. On multiple occasions, I was "requested" to bring tea and coffee from the cafeteria for members of my team. So far, I had never talked about it on a public forum, but reading others' accounts made me question if such mistreatment is becoming the norm.

What exactly is the course of action we should take in such situations? It is easy to say, "just leave the internship", but that is simply not practical. Top-tier internships are crucial for not only bolstering our CVs, but also to learn. Firms can always find people to replace us. Thus, we are left powerless against wanton abuse.