They will downvote this but this is the truth. Being in NUJS does not mean shit unless you actually go through a rigorous routine and work your way up which your alums have done over the years. The general sentiment among alumni is that the college is no more the same and is slowly becoming a traditional law college.

okay thank you so much but i currently am getting a tier 2 nlu and i won't be able to drop a year due to my own wish and my family's wish so will i be able to get a good corporate job from this nlu if i work hard? I'm getting TNNLU,slight chances of upgrade to RGNLU or NUALS or NLUO and on the other hand i have a rank of 1600, will i be able to get into nlu jodhpur through nri and will it be useful keeping in mind I'll be changing to litigation anyways? the fee would be 40L through nri

@everyone in this thread.

I have close to three year in litigation , but now hating it. I have paused it. I am non nlu person. And no internships. I belong to smaller place with almost zero exposure. I am trying to get into a corporate law firm

So, If you are willing to help and guide a bit, pls mail me -- seriouspen@mail.com

Thank You

What kind of shitty argument is that. The size and quality of the sample matters. Quoting a person itself is a weak argument, on top of that you are quoting just "one." Equivalent of saying: "Oh, look, our product is so great because X said so." Why does it matter what X said?

What are you playing to the galleries for? Lmao, the MPP and LLM students have reviled you twits( cuz you've excluded them from literally everything possible) for a long time. You just wanted some program that's non threatening to you jobs wise and would continue to feed into your massive ego about being god's greatest gift to the Harvard of the East. Wake up and smell the coffee. Your shit stinks just like the rest of ours.

In which case, can we please stop referring to that NLU as a T1 NLU? Can we please live in 2024, and not 2004, and officially designate it as T2?

And in answer to OP’s question, I have the following advice:

1. Lower your expectations and join a small firm or sole practitioner. Then work your way up towards a better job at a better organisation. If nothing happens after 2-3 years, consider an MBA or try for the judicial service exam.

2. Not targeted at you personally, but let this be a lesson to your generation not to take things for granted. The days of guaranteed jobs at CAM with no hard work and grade inflation by mediocre professors are over. Also, your generation should campaign for improvement of the college, instead of empty woke causes.

Hi. I'm a recent law graduate (2023) with 8 CGPA from a T2 law school. I'm looking for IP non-lit roles but the the attrition rate seems to be slim to none in T1 and T2 IP firms. I have interned at K&S partners, impressed everyone but got a job offer in their litigation team because of the lack of vacancy. The last hiring was done in 2021. Anand & Remfry and and most local tier 1s follow referrals religiously and do minimal hiring.

I am currently getting offers from new law firms (T3/4) as those are the only ones actively recruiting.

Q1. Shall I join a new law firm/T-3? Will that affect my career trajectory? My cv is IP, TMT & Cyber law driven with atleast 4 internships in T1 & T2 law firms.

I have recently quit a T1/T2 IP litigation firm after 2 months PQE & rejected a PPO from a T1 Indirect Tax in my 4th year due to my interest in IP. Q2. Was that a mistake?

Q3. No IP firms came to our T2 college, I'd be grateful if anyone could reflect on how exactly do T1/2 IP firms hire? Campus recruitment or PPOs / referrals?

Kindly advise & Thank you for your time!

Hi folks,
I am an incoming associate at Trilegal. I have a mandatory online internship before joining. Wanted to know if they will pay any stipend to incoming associates? If yes, how much?
Also, what other things should I keep in mind before joining? Any input would be really helpful. Thank you!

NUJS admin is for a change quite cooperative about getting alum to offer credit courses, lectures and talks etc. There is just not enough interest shown by the current students, sadly, when it comes to attending those, engaging with those people with respect and diligence and proving themselves as students worth investing time and resources in.

Anyone else believes that the lakes surrounding NUJS are haunted? On our late night strolls, we witnessed white figures and loud screens emerging out of the water bodies. Asked a Bengali local, he said the lakes are haunted because of numerous suicides taking place there since the days of British rule.

Does anyone have any information if Prof. Sandeepa Bhat would be continuing in NUJS. I heard that he would be transferring to another NLU soon. Would it be appropriate to ask him via email ? I am planning to go for a PhD in air law next year. But it would be futile if he leaves. Btw what happens to the PhD student when a faculty in charge leaves midway ?

Because advocates prefer chamber interns to be there all throughout the year. NLUs have greater academic rigour and attendance requirements that makes it difficult for their students to commit to such arrangements. For non NLU students, those are the only opportunities that they have career wise, lacking law firms as campus recruiters, hence they are more willing to completely neglect college classes and other requirements in order to intern throughout the year. There is also the point of most of these chambers paying very low to start with. Many NLU grads with more lucrative options and lacking generational privilege would of course not be interested in those positions. The problem lies with the chambers, not the other way around.

I'm in the exact same boat. Had a T1 internship that went well, even gave a PPO presentation but found out they're on a hiring freeze 3 months later. I have another T1 internship lined up but I'm going to cancel it, no point wasting time on places that aren't hiring. At this point, I'm just interning at chambers and boutique firms where prospects of hiring exist.

Now you know why students from BALLB hate them. They act like they know the world and have experienced everything when they lack the very basics of reasoning. It's fine if someone lacks knowledge or reasoning skills but they shouldn't have this attitude. It is this attitude that secludes them from the rest of the college.

We have had MPP students on this campus for a very long time and the BALLB students never had a problem with them but LLB students are kind of unbearable.

Just because you're single doesn't mean you need to be alone.

Efforts must be made to create a community or network of people.

There are plenty of people who are married/with kids who feel lonely too.

By the time you reach old age there is no guarantee that your kids will be looking after you or that your partner will be around. Trying to say one is better than the other is pointless. You can be happy potentially if youre single or with family. It takes effort in both cases.

Try not to create large space for negativity. This talk of mercy killing is just unnecessary as I forsee things will be improved in the future. If it is still something in your mind, just consider Dignitas and go on a final Swiss holiday. Most likely you won't.

I have currently gotten health insurance and barely use it, so getting no claims bonuses right now. Will continue renewing it, because procuring similar insurance later in life would be expensive.

Where are ya'll getting advice from??? I invested 50 L and got 6 L in a year, which I thought was good. Now I see people here claiming crazy returns 2x to 3x of that!! If true, do you get insider tips from your law firms or something? e.g. an advanced tip about Hindenberg and their chums in India shorting the Adani stock?

I agree. I did my LLM from a 2nd tier and I was the only one who wanted to pursue a career in academia. What was sad was unlike the tier1 NLUs, there were no TAship offered. I still would visit my professors chambers to help with UG stuff. They appreciated it and through them I got a PhD interview. It's sad state of affairs.

How about not letting every tom,dick and harry apply for LLM. I believe they should keep the one year for those who want it for their CV. Teaching should only allow 2years LLM. Serious candidates will go for 2 years. And then the Universities should support the 2years into PhD or TA. Need to separate the wheat from chaff and support the ones who came only for academia.

In terms of pay..yes..as contrast to getting a monthly salary directly in your account, you will have to work for each and every rupee, as in you will definitely feel it; since the first thing your clients will ask you is "kitna lagega?" (How much will it cost?) Then you'll have to figure an amount that is respectable to your efforts and at the same time affordable to the client. As compared to directly receiving money in your account, you'll have to ask for money.

Second, in terms of work, you will be hands on board, running from post to pillar depending on your work. If it's criminal, then it's more exhausting or exciting, to visit police station, court, client, scene of incident etc. In civil, more like walking from chamber to court. It's more "happening" than sitting in a cubicle for life.

Moreover, you've got what everyone needs. A mentor, a financial support, a foot in the door by being a 2nd gen advocate. You just need to learn the trade.

I loved litigation, much better than sitting at my desk from sunrise to sunset. However I'm a first gen and in the end I needed the money. And only reason I went back is cause of financial reason and an independent practice that I knew needed years more.

You're in the best position. Practice in corporate to get a feel and make money. When you're bored of it all, come back to court and practice litigation.

The only reason people don't take up litigation is money. Otherwise great place to be in.

I think it's justified to not want to join any random firm, but if you do get a chance to join a low-end T2 or T3 firm then take that. You can also move up later. The best shot would be to intern long term at a firm the moment college ends. That can turn into a retainer by September probably. Besides that you have an assessment and it's better you just give it your all and see where that takes you. Worst case you come out of there with some connections who can refer you to other good firms. I also suggest you start cold mailing all t2 and t3 firms, partners especially.

Tons of money but no one to spend it on and to share happiness with. This is what happens if you obsess over money and become a law firm bro (or female equivalent). This includes people who were married but divorced because they put careers over spending time with their spouses or having kids.

I am sorry to say that LI, over the many years of its existence, has played a major role in the glamorisation of law firm careers. Many years ago, Kian compiled a law school ranking where a CAM/SAM etc job gave a law school a certain number of points, but a job with an NGO or lawyer's chamber gave less points, while an LLM admit (even if with scholarship) or a UPSC rank gave zero points. This contributed to a toxic culture in law schools where students only pursued law firm jobs and money. In some law schools, this also led to tolerance of mediocre profs who awarded generous grades. Even now, there is a ranking fight every single day on LI and most commenters say that a worth of a law school is to be judged solely by the number of tier 1 law firm placements. 😔

I have been constantly advocating against taking up inhouse roles with PSUs. Having worked with a sister company of bpcl, I would certainly never recommend any sane person joining these organizations. Paywise they don't stand even close to what T1s pay. In case you're looking for a good work-life balance, certainly you should consider PSU as an option. Otherwise, there's zero learning as the counsels, day in and day out, only review the template Agreements prepared by a law firm. Moreover, they can't even stand close to what their counterpart with less than half no of years' experience can deliver, both work product and knowledge. There's so much red tapism and bureaucracy in the system that you will end being part of the same. I tried ignoring the shit going around, but couldn't sustain it beyond 2y and resigned. Interestingly, the work culture in PSUs is still the age old culture where you're required to call your seniors "sirs"/"madams". Getting a promotion is another challenge, as it purely depends on the no of years you've spent in the organization. Meritocracy is something that's unheard of in a PSU. Butt licking prevails accross departments. Trust me guys, if you're serious about personality development pls don't even think of joining a PSU. I was a lateral hire and was shocked to see the culture - basic etiquettes were questionable. It appeared you're in a jungle, where only king is heard! Bullshit place!

Ask them about the origins of feminism or to name female freedom fighters in India and watch them crumble right before you. All of this a "trend" without hardwork. None of them have read or researched anything worthwhile. They think fluent english and "it's her choice" to every answer makes them holier than thou. F them and the new age pseudo liberals.

Goes on to show that CLAT is not just about English and fancy schools. Maybe my parents couldn't afford a fancy English medium school? Your elitist background won't be able to fathom that cuz sitting and working hard 16hrs/day for CLAT wasn't something that is believable for you.

Yes, I did Crack CLAT and had a rank under 50. Something, which you won't be able to Crack given your legal reasoning.