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2. Even if I managed to clear CAT(with good varc(98-100%ile, 22-24 Qs), & lidr(95-99%ile, 4 sets), but will necessarily have to rely on the 7-9 arith Qs(90-95%ile), cant go beyond this for quant);
3. After all this, even after putting all in for CAT, may not get anything beyond 95-98%ile(since leaving lucrative 5-6 Qs of quant); and I've literally seen people having scored beyond 99.5%ile getting rejected from even Lucknow, let alone ABC;
4. Besides those few top tier schools, the situation's not at all good for any other school, even XLRI, ISB, or FMC.
It's literally 25 Lakhs(atleast) worth of investment.and people are not getting worthwhile placements.
It's somewhat 2-3 times than a 3 year LLB from an NLU.And what happens when one gets after that-a 20 lpa CTC-where they include even stationary costs in ctc?
5. 3 year LLBs are not regarded at par with ballbs, at any NLU, I concur, except may be NLS, I dont know, you can dispute that too.
But the point is, if one works REALLY HARD, like really hard from day 1, & stays focused, he, on his own can land up in a decent job in either a some Tier(###), or stepney firm, or in-house, whatever, and then climb up the ladder, or take a lift based on his skills & his capacity to learn transferable skills.
6. Later on, if circumstances warrant, one can always do an MBA from IIMs, like an executive one.GMAT, not CAT, gmat easier than CAT; valid for 5 years; Less money(15 odd lakhs-IIMA), only a year.It can really boost a career; which may be a very good alternative to an oxbridge/US LLM(way more expensive); especially in current time when US has almost stopped fellowships for professional courses in masters level(not announced fulbright this year for prof. pg).
7. Besides I have looked up TISS MA in HRM as well.But only 60 seats, bhai.Open seats are only 15-20.Can u blv?not plaussible!!!
8. Besides, clearing CAT is something but then practice quant related work for the rest of life is not bearable for me, since it does not interest me.
So...i guess, that's it!!!
Sorry for the length!
Also, READ. READ a lot! newspapers + updates relevant to your field + anything interesting. It's always nice to be able to contribute to general chats your team may have, plus your seniors and partner will definitely notice (you don't have to chuck information down their throats, of course xD)
Dress neatly. Brand doesn't matter, but how you present yourself does matter.
Take notes during every matter discussion. Always walk into your partner's cabin WITH a notebook. This will help you clarify things and avoid mistakes while recollecting matter discussions.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
Did they hire anyone from 2027 Batch yet?
Specifically, I’m curious about whether partners experience a similar workload as the associates who I hear have no life outside work and work 24/7 or if they are able to maintain a relatively better work-life balance.
Additionally, I would like to understand the distribution and scale of transactions within the team—are multiple partners actively handling significant deal flow, or is the work primarily concentrated with RC, I do not see many deals at Trilegals deal corner that reflect any other name than RC was hoping to gain some clarity on this.
- electricity fluctuating every few minutes, making it impossible to charge devices
- water supply keeps fluctuating.
- roofs collapsing, destroying metal railings, etc. with minimal engagement by admin (except a letter claiming they have an "impeccable record" in maintaining safety, ignoring multiple other collapses)
- no support or attendance condonation for mooting
- campus events shut up by 9 pm mandatorily, irrespective of event, date, or circumstance
- faculty quality, the hallmark of NLSIU, has degraded due to the batch expansion, meaning you have [unrelated courses – redacted because the faculty is nice, but just not suited to this] forced to teach [redacted, unrelated courses].
- 30+ rooms in the men's hostel alone facing faulty fans, with worse situations faced by the women's hostels
There is so much more. A university is primarily meant to fulfill educational purposes, but a lot of people join university in the hopes of aggrandising via networking, making connections with peers, all of which is unnecessarily difficult in the face of unprecedented batch expansions that dilute the quality of learning and living in a residential space, etc.
For the "best" law school in the country, this is rather sad. Hoping to see some engagement, at least, as someone who genuinely holds this place in high stead and cherishes it.
-Drafting and all happens at all levels and even team heads give their say in the final draft more often than not (micromanagement level differs). It is NOT a one-day job unless its an urgent application. In a sane disputes team (there are less than you'd like to think), the work goes upto a Partner who reverts to the counsel/client firm and back, if necessary, for further revisions. Basic memo work is handled by juniors.
-In smaller firms, associates may get more court exposure and directly participate in briefing unlike T1s who take senior counsels just to mention or adjourn.
-Partners in these firms usually have less experience than a fresher at an advocate's chamber. If you dream of building face value as an arguing counsel, Disputes firms are definitely not it (with a few exceptions who actually became senior counsels themsleves lol). A lot of partners/senior partners CANNOT argue or are NOT CONFIDENT in arguing. (FYI, if you are a law student sneering at this, you'll realize how difficult it actually is to make relevant submissions before a High Court Bench.)
-In Bombay, some old-school firms tend to send freshers for administrative/compliance work before the Prothonotary (OS Registrar).
-Urgent tasks land on your plate all the time, especially when arbitration matters come up.
-For a lot of budding litigators, the answer for your last question is a resounding 'NO'. Most disputes work is clerical at junior levels and becomes briefing/solicitor work at senior levels. If you don't mind being a briefing counsel as part of your career trajectory, then disputes is good because you get paid better than litigation at the start. Cannot say the same for litigators with 5+ years of experience who usually start outearning their corporate peers by then. This curve, however, is very steep. Not every litigator can survive the court experience. Many prefer stability (LOL) compared to the complete uncertainty of litigation.
I hope you guys realise making teenagers think that they're very accepted in your particular group is..... Fundamentally analogous to not very good things, very different from career advice
I don't wanna join my nlu but I've got this curiosity for why people feel such a bad need to express that their top nlu is really acceptable, is it insecurity? Even after making it into a top Indian law university?
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/477937-which-nlus-have-sirmaam-culture#comment-479870
You should look into this one, to analyse this person's words-
They downplay the sir/mam culture by saying "it's just words and nothing else"
Keeps saying "it's chill" with no substance
Blames the students for being cautious, like that's just literally being prudent? Says it's a problem-- well what's your solution then?
People should forget the evidence and trust u blindly?
Refers to themselves as "all u need"
In the end equates their drug culture to being "symmetrical" this person isn't making a case for the culture/wellbeing, but that of how their nlu is 'acceptable' in comparison
I'm pretty sure this is textbook narcissistic manipulation
Oh you must be a debate and logic enthusiast, isn't it?
So should I drop out of it or like, no?
I can't help but feel that there was a certain dissatisfaction in at least one of these cases. When you favour certain mediocre people and make them de facto rulers of Jindal, but overlook the deserving ones, at some point the deserving ones will snap. Especially when they are even paid less. Supporters of the VC will say that they are leaving to head law schools and would have left anyway. I don't think so, because these are lower tier law schools. Given a choice between being a player in the Indian cricket team and the captain of a Ranji team, which would you prefer? The answer is the former, but perhaps not if you are perpetually made the 12th man in the Indian team and the Indian team management keeps selecting underperformers instead of you.
I'm from a tier 1 nlu, I've got good extra curriculars, stellar recommendations, and will be working in a sector that's fairly interesting and not very main stream. Oxbridge was never in the consideration (I know my place before any of you try to remind me of it) until one of my professors recommended that I try, and now I cannot get it out of my head.
And a few people from my college have gotten into great unis which largely focus on good grades, without really having great grades, and that's given me a new found motivation
On POCSO, unfortunately the law provides a bar to talk about it. So, to answer your question, yes, there is a factor where the accused is pretty much forced to sit back and not say a word (unless it’s in court). Actually, come to think of it, the same bar applies to the mother, who has conveniently chosen to disregard it. (Remember: this bar is there to protect the child!)
Lean In refers to a prominent feminist philosophy and a global movement centered on the 2013 book Lean In: Women, Work, and the Will to Lead by former Meta COO Sheryl Sandberg.
The core idea encourages women to assert themselves in their professional lives to achieve leadership roles, rather than unintentionally holding themselves back due to internal barriers or societal expectations.
Lean In from the inside
Wynn-Williams, who worked at Meta from 2011 to 2017, shares several incidents that she claims expose a disconnect between Sandberg's public persona and her private behavior:
"Come to Bed" Incident: Wynn-Williams alleges that during a 2016 flight on a private jet, Sandberg invited her to share the only bed on the plane, an offer Wynn-Williams found highly inappropriate and refused.
Hostile Work Culture: The author claims staffers were intentionally given excessive workloads to ensure no one had "spare time". She recounts responding to work emails while in labour and being harassed for updates during a recovery from a life-threatening childbirth complication.
Critique of "Lean In": Wynn-Williams argues the philosophy was used to push women toward "soul-depleting workaholism" rather than true empowerment. She describes Sandberg's brand as a "shtick" designed to demand obedience from subordinates.
The grade depends on how much it has affected the firm. Consenting is all irrelevant. Who is teaching you this lot this crap?
I cant believe the mods basically censored what is reported on bar and bench. The people who will care are the team members reporting to him.
As a woman its disgusting the level to which indian law firms have accepted such poor conduct and judgement from its leaders whether women or men.
Worst - Tagore
This is the real face of TMC supporters. Rank opportunists who will jump ship and go saffron if it suits them. Already, their influencers online are shifting loyalties. Just wait and see: all their supporters at NUJS will do the same and hang on to their seats in the governing bodies.
Does anyone have updates on offer letter?
Either way — this one's for the students lurking here who have romanticised the idea of a Tier 1 disputes team. We see the LinkedIn posts about the big wins, the Supreme Court appearances, the landmark judgments. But no one talks about what Tuesday at 11pm actually looks like.
So — disputes lawyers at T1 (CAM, SAM, AZB, Trilegal, KCO, NDA, whoever) — please indulge us this weekend. Genuinely curious:
On any given day:
- How many matters are you actively juggling? Is it 3 or is it 13?
- What does the task list actually look like — research notes, written submissions, plaints, replies, vakalatnamas, cause list tracking, client calls, all of it at once?
- Is drafting a whole plaint or a writ petition a one-person, one-day job? Or does it go through 5 people over 3 weeks?
- Who does what — what does an A0/A1 handle vs what actually goes to the SA or partner?
- Is court attendance a regular thing or mostly for seniors?
- How many "urgent" tasks land on your plate after 7pm?
Also — is disputes at T1 actually what students imagine it to be? Or is it mostly document review, research memos, and chasing advocates on record?
Drop your honest take. No names needed — that's what this forum is for. You'd genuinely be doing a service to every law student who's building their entire career plan around "I want to do disputes at a T1."
A1 - 23
A2 - 29
A3 - 34
SAs are north of 40.
I’d especially appreciate insights on how to approach and stand out while handling assignments such as lender consent DDs, approvals DDs, property DDs, standard certificates and similar transactional workstreams. I’m less concerned about the black-letter law aspect and more interested in understanding the practical side, how to structure work product well, spot issues effectively, communicate findings commercially, and become someone seniors can genuinely rely on during a live transaction.
Would really value any advice, habits, checklists, or practical tips from people who’ve worked in capital markets or transactional teams
There is a danger that an inquiry, if at all, will get saffron/Pinkwashed.
A lot of the people I'm talking about above got placed in the same areas you're interested in too.
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What Is Actually Being Communicated
Reading between the lines of this post reveals several key facts:
• He is facing serious charges — serious enough that his professional network is reaching out with support, indicating the matter became public, likely through media coverage.
• The framing — "deeply painful divorce," financial settlement, child custody — strongly suggests this stems from a matrimonial dispute that escalated into criminal complaints, possibly under IPC 498A, domestic violence provisions, or financial fraud allegations by an estranged spouse.
• The reference to "misusing media connects" is a pointed accusation that his ex-spouse (or her side) leaked the story to journalists to gain leverage in the financial settlement.
Communication Quality — What He Did Well
• Unequivocal denial with no hedging or ambiguity.
• Contextualised the charges as divorce fallout rather than standalone professional misconduct.
• Maintained professional dignity — did not name anyone or descend into emotional rhetoric.
• The gratitude framing softens what is essentially a crisis statement, humanising him to his network.
What Is Strategically Risky or Weak
• Wrong platform. LinkedIn is a professional networking site. Publishing a personal legal crisis here permanently associates his professional profile with the controversy, regardless of eventual outcome.
• "Read between the lines" signals to the legal fraternity that there is more to the story — which invites speculation rather than closing it down.
• Legally inadvisable media allegation. While understandable, the allegation about "misusing media connects" could be construed as an attempt to discredit a potential witness or complainant — a significant misstep.
• 83 reactions is relatively low for a professional with a senior legal network, suggesting either limited reach or that peers are hesitant to publicly associate with the post.
Overall Assessment
This reads as a well-meaning but strategically imperfect crisis response — written by someone in genuine distress who wanted to reclaim the narrative, but without the benefit of crisis PR counsel.
The content is dignified; the platform choice and the media allegation are missteps. A better approach would have been a private communication to close colleagues and, if necessary, a terse single-line public statement — nothing more.
Verdict: 7/10 for intent and tone. 4/10 for strategic execution.
I think the firm perhaps knew it all and when it blew up with news reports etc in various media outlets like Mumbai Mirror etc, the firm decided to act by sacking him, and doing damage control !
What even is the point of this discussion now? Every action has consequences and he has faced it. Whether he is a bad person or not is immaterial now. If he is actually sorry about what he did as people who claim to know him are saying, then hopefully he does better in the future.
Peace ✌️
https://thebarbulletin.com/law-firm-partner-terminated-pocso-case/
Then again Bose family is overrated and playing victim has been their hallmark. Bahut hua samman
I think let’s force these men to understand that if your wife is doing it for you by putting your job and dreams on priority doesn’t mean you will belittle someone’s choice to work during pregnancy and not respect basic decency and boundaries.
The pregnant woman is not refusing work during office hours, all they are saying is after office hours, my body needs the rest it needs after a hard days work.
1. LONG LOONG hours - most tier-1s will have you pulling multiple all-nighters in a row and by all-nighters I mean less than 3 hours of sleep. This will happen in cycles through out the year but depending on staffing and the market you could go 2-3 months at this pace - weekends included. This could happen in other practices as as well, but the probability and frequency in cap marks is higher than most other practices
2. Boring and repetitive work - most of the work you do will be detail oriented and diligence heavy - sometimes it may feel like you didn’t need a law degree for this practice at all. Your skill set as a lawyer and as a person can get limited if you’re not careful.
3. It doesn’t get better with seniority - It might suck seeing your seniors leave when you’re toiling but it’s even worse if you see your senior pulling the same number of all nighters as you. At least until PA the practice doesn’t ease up on you in terms of you having control over your time. Even at partner level, depending on the involvement and working style of the partner - they too work long long hours.
4. Not enough exit options - it’s good money and a great way to propel yourself to financial security so if this was a practice area you could just spend 4-5 years in make your pool of cash and leave to do something else, it would be a lot more bearable. But as a cap marks lawyer your in-house opportunities are limited - you could work at a SAM or a CAM for years and still struggle to even get an interview call for a non-cap marks job, however a peer in GC or even TMT would have a much higher chance of moving in-house. You could become a banker but that isn’t much of an upgrade in terms of quality of work and work-life balance.
5. Lack of leadership - all those long hours have damaged a few brains so a lot of your seniors will be annoying and snappy zombies.
6. Pressure pressure - your average IPO is at least a few hundred crores and you’ll see plenty which are in the 1000s of crores, for the promoters and investors of a company this is a culmination of years of work and the bankers stand to make the big bucks as well, the lawyers are treated more as an impediment to the process - the paper pushers that keep the regulator out of the business while bankers do the work of marketing the offer and getting money. Plus you work with an increasingly unreasonable regulator in close proximity whose whole job is to scrutinise shit you’ve written at 4am on a few hours of sleep. People get snappy, yell, fight and are downright annoying. So you need to have a very very thick skin.
All of the above might have exceptions depending on team / partner, firm, location, market conditions and sheer luck. If you’re a nonchalant person or have cracked the secret to stoicism, you’ll do well in this practice. Otherwise it can be a bumpy ride.
Good luck!
The way Indian firms are set up, it’s a steep learning curve which is often isolating, but the experience of whatever mistakes or challenges you go through teaches you far more than reading black letter law. You do something on loop enough times and it becomes second nature, that’s all it is, repetition. Eventually you’ll become comfortable with uncertainty cuz you would’ve gone through so much shit that regardless of what’s thrown at you, you’ll have the confidence to figure your way out of it.
If you want to succeed in this set up, all you have to do is stick around. Whether you feel it is worth it to stick around is a separate matter.
Good luck!
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AI (specifically, tools which have integrated with the IndianKanoon API - clauseo the best so far but expensive)
However, the YouTube algorithm led me to this interview with the Tamil Nadu Governor Rajendra Arlekar and the man himself, Mukul Rohatgi: https://youtu.be/maovnJlpD4g
An absolute must-watch for everyone.
The Governor was confronted directly, firmly, and respectfully, and by the end, was subtly but clearly told not to fool around with the Constitution and to allow a minority government to form, regardless of the consequences.
🫡 for Arnab, and 🫡 Mukul Rohatgi for doing this!
Am 100% sure that Tushar saw this interview, and, by now, advised his client to take operation lotus down a few notches. Especially in TN. In the off chance Tushar is reading this, I have a message - sir, please install a smarter CM in WB than the one you have in Delhi, else anti incumbency will hit your employer real hard in 2029. From SG, you’ll return to obscurity. Your client is winning elections only because the INDI Alliance doesn’t have its act together. You aren’t winning because you are doing a stellar job governing this country. How do I know? I have voted for you - the BJP- thrice already. We still have corruption, abject poverty, crony capitalism and broken roads. There’s an acute shortage of judges. You’ve repeatedly obstructed the collegium to get your way. The tribunals, esp. NCLT and NCLAT are corrupt, filthy and poorly managed. Do this country a favour and scrap them. Please. One still needs a jack with some minister, judge or with your office to get on a panel for the union of India, and get work from that panel. The office of the Attorney General has been reduced to a joke with the SG marking briefs! Why don’t you become the AG, bro!? It’s well known that Amit bhai is your buddy. Tell him to make you AG! Why this farce of a installing a namesake AG!?
Credit must also be given to Kapil Sibal🫡. Had it not been for his press conference, I doubt any of this would have happened.
Maybe you are part of this “Sir/Ma’am” hierarchy culture, but as seniors, we never expected juniors to greet us with such suffixs or salutations. We always made it clear that they should use whatever they were comfortable with more like most of us say bhaiya/didi.