When you demand Jindal level (ok a little less) fees and promise the moon, the minimum standards of service cannot be less than a so-called TLC or lowly ranked NLU. On top of that you have a VC who reigned supreme in NLS and took a Messiah to be dislodged. This man is also a BCI fav.

Granted that many in the faculty are his acolytes or products of IoUs but they are from better known NLUs. And the you are also doing injustice to your location!

Hi

We'll be appearing for interviews and group discussions starting this week. Would love if anyone can share advice regarding how to ace interviews, imp GD topics, typical and non-typical questions that one must prepare.

Further, some advice specifically for GC would be great.

I deserve to study from a qualified and experienced teacher if I am paying 2.5 L pa.

Experience matters in teaching lineup bro there are subjects like constitution which can only be taught by experienced faculty. Our consti faculty was teaching first time in her career. Bring back Rangeen.
Asli id se aao Rata of NLUO

So what? If a person is RATA does that imply they can't teach well?

If they were bad, did you talk to Dean about them?

And how many classes did you attend after completing the reading material provided? You guys just come and start blaming teachers out of nowhere.

I graduated in April,2024 from a decent private college. Had a T1 call back didnt work out because the RP said they are not hiring freshers. I'm interested in Gen Corp/Energy & Infra work not into litigation at all. Have zero internship experience in lit & disputes. I m stuck and idk what to do. All law firm jobs in corp require PQE. I'm thinking of leaving law and joining a call centre.

You realise they're not going to set up as full fledged law firms, right? If at all they do hire, they're going to hire 10-12 folks across seniority levels so for the vast majority of us, life will continue unchanged.

Source: I'm an RP working with magic circles on VC deals

https://m.thewire.in/article/caste/sexual-harassment-case-two-murders-mysterious-death-sagar

More than nine months after her 18-year-old brother was lynched and her mother disrobed and thrashed allegedly by those threatening her to withdraw the sexual harassment case, the woman has died under suspicious circumstances and her uncle has been murdered.

w Delhi: A young Dalit woman’s refusal to withdraw a sexual harassment complaint against four influential men in Madhya Pradesh’s Sagar district in 2019 has brought devastating consequences to her and her family.

Key context regarding the comparison with what is done in two important jurisdictions outside India:

1. In the U.S., there is no such thing as a PhD in law being a 'terminal degree' for U.S. lawyers (i.e., those who have a JD from there). The S.J.D. many unis have is a doctoral degree designed for foreign lawyers who will become academics in foreign countries. Most S.J.D. graduates aren't recruited by U.S. law schools, even those with fancy UK degrees. The JD is a 'terminal degree', as it is done as a graduate degree. Many legal academics there have PhDs in other disciplines before doing a JD, or work towards a PhD in something else (e.g., history, philosophy) while pursuing their JD.

2. You mentioned scholars such as Shubhankar Dam. It is true that there are such people, but they are becoming increasingly rare in the UK, especially at senior levels (at least at the so-called 'Russell Group universities'). A PhD is increasingly a requirement there, and it's very hard to be recruited as an academic these days without one, so much so that an academic there once described the practice of recruiting people to senior positions who didn't have a PhD as being something 'done in a bygone era' (again, at least at the RG unis). To note, there are some genuinely good academics in the UK who, despite completing PhDs - and having very fancy graduate degree combinations on their profile (e.g., Columbia LLM + Oxford DPhil, Oxford BCL and MPhil + Cambridge PhD in Law), and despite being awesome researchers and teachers, are still struggling on the bottom rung of the promotions ladder there. Also of note, I think you would find that many of those without a PhD who are from a previous generation have a very strong (i.e., academically the type that would suck the blood out of you, and reputationally very strong) master's degree, such as the BCL (as is the case with Shubhankar Dam) or strong work experience or both.

A little bg, I'm from a non-nlu. Not in top private colleges but an okayish semi-public University in Delhi . I had the opportunity to give CLAT again but kill me please for believing in myself and thinking I can make it on my own rather than relying on the usual NLU nepotism that is given to even some of their dumbest students. I'm a good orator, good in academics, I have been to some good debates, moots and won some good ranks and have a specific interest in ADR competitions. I have actually won quite a few of them (nothing too high rank tho, you'll know why). For almost 2 years I was looking forward to the flagship Nlu-D nego comp that they do with HSF(for obvious reasons) but guess what the limits of their shitty elitism goes beyond your imagining spirits. You can think that maybe by winning some good competitions of this level you can have that chance to break the ceiling finally but piss off you peasant:

1) the comp this year was invite based only - not even a single chance for other universities to maybe 'try' at least no selective process or an interview based selection, nothing they just decided on their own that only specific students from specific university 'deserve' the chance to be represented rest of you can keep dreaming.

2) i understand that their ties with such big firms are their own and their students should get the benefit of that (agreed, valid) but this is not a job interview it is merely a competition based on hypothetical scenario that gives others a chance to network with some of the important people in int legal area. What the actual shit are you scared of? Non-Nlus getting a chance, actually showing they might be better than you because they have to work double hard to get anything you just get on a plate?

3) I think it's very unfair coming from such an high institution that they choose to arbitrarily decide whatever the hell they want to do? Inviting foreign Universities??? Good for repo but do they really need this ? They have enough advantage over all of us that they can easily get a job in magic circles. No but really, what's the point? International recruiters know the international crowd, you invite them to India only to show a handful of Indian students who will just go and get stoned after the ending of the comp. Is this the 19th century?

I'm not asking for much just a valid chance to have experience such as these yes ik some random ass NLU kid will write 'cope' because again they don't realise what personal hell non-nlu kids have to go through. This unfair and arbitrary behaviour is consistently increasing from day to day by every NLU is kinda alarming. No fair chances, What is next? We have to bear our swords and actually duel over getting basic chances such as these???

Intern as much as possible

Intern again at the same place

Build good connections, even if you don't get placed they might consider you for lateral hiring.

Work your ass off. Don't be foolish and leave office before 8 PM. Even if they keep you for getting print outs, stay at the office.

All the Best!

Bro u are talking about 2-3 years gap as if it's a 20-30 years gap, he's just more mature than you which people are at that age, plus pressure is a bit hit on him cuz he's a bit late to the law school party.

That being said u being 18 while in 2nd year is an anomaly itself.

And change your partner if you don't like him as such.

IIULER is not an NLU! It's just a Private University under Section 2(f) of UGC Act. So, don't compare NLUs and IIULER in the same hand. So, it's irrelevant whether NLUs are having the so-called "posts" and "vacancies" but as a PRIVATE UNIVERSITY, it's important for IIULER to fill the above mentioned posts!

For A0s, the monthly compensation is exactly Rs 1 lakh. Whereas, for A1s, the same is at a range from Rs 1.1 lakh to 1.5 lakh. For A2s, the range is between Rs 1.6 lakh and 1.9 lakh. Can someone please explain why the monthly retainer (which is usually a fixed component at other law firms) is a variable component at SRL?

Because "performance" metrics will count during next round of promotions, offers for greener pastures elsewhere. PhDs mean money, esp international students who pay at least thrice as much as a local. Doesn't matter if the doctoral student is self-funded (on costly loans etc), sponsored or on scholarship....the univ gets to rake in a generous sum.

As the Americans famously say....follow the money.

But all said. Good pitch by the teach. How about really helping with fully funded scholarships to the needy and not traffic in IoUs?

I interned under a very senior AOR in Supreme Court as a law student. Right from joining I could sense that he was always seeing be probably not in a good way, seeing my neck while talking to me and talking about random things like drinks, 5 star parties,etc while calling me in his chamber every now and then. Being only a student I felt really weak to take a stand while my friends who were also interning with me saved me a lot of time by entering in his chamber uncalled when he used to be with me unnecessarily even at the cost of getting scolded. He praised me in front of other interns while degrading their work even when I performed very average and snatched responsibilities from other deserving interns to give it to me. I felt bad. Even those interns started saying that I am sedu*ing him and I am a boot licker. But I genuinely even went to him and requested him to not give me new responsibilities but he didn't listen. I worked the best I could and with time I really started producing good results and I was punctual too. Once, he crossed his line by touching my waist but because it was for a picture, I don't know if I sensed it wrong. However, slowly I started maintaining distance and being slightly rude by not indulging in talks other than work related ones, I was sidelined. I didn't receive any certificates despite working really hard. I felt upset because my work was not rewarded but I didn't even want appreciation from a person who made me feel so uncomfortable. I am still in confused state over what happened but I feel maybe I am not good for corporate, probably I am weak idk.

BNS is being replaced with IPC effective from tomorrow. Parts of section 377 ( law for sexual acts against" the order of nature") was scraped in 2018 to decriminalize sexual acts between lgbtq folks but it still protected men, trans and animals against rape by having a punishment of upto 10 years for it. With the official replacement of IPC with BNS( bhartiya nyay sanhita, our new criminal code) effective from tomorrow, rape against men, trans and animals r not illegal anymore as our govt didn't bother to formalise a new modified version of section 377. Btw keep in mind there were never any specific laws made for rape against men or animals but section 377 loosely served that gap. Now with BNS, even that is gone and no one is talking about it.

You seem to be coming up with different definitions for yourself. The people whom I know have provided perfectly adequate teaching and guidance at other universities, so it cannot be that they have magically changed once they started at IIULER. On the other hand, you seem to be doing a lot of generaliations out of some personal grudge.

It is not the faculty's place to provide you remote access or ID cards. Don't misdirect your (quite legit) anger at them, but at the admin. Same thing for the PhD course. If classes are not taking place, try filing a joint official complaint against the concerned faculty by all the students. If you are claiming that no classes are taking place at all, then file a complaint to the UGC/BCI or quit the place and join somewhere better at half the cost.

Don't know about your experience, the people I know have always stated before me that it's run by the Trust, though BCI and its reps play an active role in the management.

I was 24 when I did my masters, and we had few students who were 30+, one was even a parent. Some were switching careers, some had practiced and came back, and some had lost years to competitive exams, etc. Everyone has some story. Initially it was awkward, and the younger ones would sit seperately from the older folks. However over time we found out that in the end we're the same, "students". All of us were learning, all of us had confusion in seminar papers, all of us had difficulty coming up with our dissertation, all of us were afraid of exams. The point being; we all were in different stages of life, but at the same time in the same place of our learning experience. We younger ones didn't have their world experience, or their pain of failures. And they didn't have our youth and time. We learned from each other. In the end I understood how strong "ageism" exists in our society. We have set bars, unwanted limits, you have to be in college by 18, job by 20s, married in late 20s, kids in 30s etc. Not realising that it's okay to move at our own pace, and not belittle if someone is not on the same pace as you are.

Regarding your situation, I'm glad you don't hate your roomate, but understanding that they have seen failures and disappointments earlier in life. You haven't, and you will, and that's the time you will crash. This is the moment that you can learn from your older friend how they've managed their mental health and emotions when things didn't go right for them. So that when you crash in the future, you have more empathy for yourself. Also, roomates don't mean best friends. Respect each other's privacy, respect each other's time. Have a code that what you share with each other you don't spread around campus. And think of it more like living with an elder sibling than with a batchmate. And trust me, spread some warmth and kindness to the other person. They have definitely been through shit, if they're already starting late according to "society's set time".

1. I know those regulations very well. The fifteen years is to make professor via promotion route. Anyone with a PhD and ten years of teaching experience as an Assistant Professor can apply for any open Professor position. That's what the regulations clearly state. For Assistant Professors, LLM and NET are mandatory.

2. Quite possible. Many of those people are not even given the designation of Assistant Professor, so they get exploited both ways.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india/tiss-dismisses-55-faculty-members-60-non-teaching-staff-across-campuses-due-to-funding-issues-report-12759024.html

Which of the state NLUs will do this, as many of them face a funds crunch?

I'm a second year student at one of the top 3 NLUs. I'm 18 and my roommate is 21, I can't relate to his aspirations and most of his conversations. I don't dislike him or anything but I sometimes find it hard to talk to him about things I find amusing. I feel he might find those idiotic. He keeps reading some newsletters which I have no idea about and has a whole plan ready from internships to a PPO. Not many people talk to him in campus or class and he seem quite unbothered about it.

Do you guys too have/had friends/roommates who were 2-3 years elder to you? If yes, how do you manage to get comfortable around them?

Do a Small favour, don't join and look for something better. The University is absolutely not worth it. Placements are horrible, people are roaming jobless and there's no accountability from the management.

If you are in Mumbai look for colleges where there's no attendance issues so that you can work in firms and chambers. Always choose your city very wisely, don't foray into cities where there's no legal market or not much traction.

Bump, Moderator please mark this as featured thread or something, if the case is serious this guy needs help and fast. Meanwhile OP should visit lawctopus and other websites which provide information regarding internships and stuff and he can also call the firms and enquire about internships with stipends as most websites have at least one contact number

I am am part of the 2025 GB from JGLS and honestly the chances of getting placed during day zero seem bleak and abysmal. I have a very average profile with some notable moots and publications, however nothing too remarkable.

I have almost a year left before I graduate, kindly advise on what actions I can take to fix this situation or possibly get a job.

Please, please, tell me you aren't a law student. Only then can you be forgiven for such a stupendous gaffe. If not, please read the New York Times' Editorial Board's opinion piece on the recent Biden - Trump debate and reflect on how some of what they say might be applicable to you in terms of your relationship with law and the legal profession.

1) See the UGC Regulations of 2018 - It clearly shows the Eligibility to be appointed as an Assistant Professor in India

2) Not only many Private Universities, almost each and every affiliated Colleges in India are not providing even one-fourth of UGC Scale - Many colleges are just offering Rs 20,000/- to Rs 25,000/- (For non-NET Candidates) and Rs 30,000/- to Rs 35,000/- (For NET qualified Candidates)

Do you mean "approachable" for a student means just to Approach and talk to them? It's not! They must support, provide adequate guidance irrespective of whether it is LLB, LLM Students or PhD Scholars! None of the Faculties there are interested to grow the University! None of them takes any responsibility either to increase the technical and educational quality of the institution.

1) If we ask about E-library access and remote Database access, no one will support or respond to that

2) They are not even interested to provide ID Cards To the Students!

3) No classes are taking place regularly

4) PhD Course at IIULER clearly violates all the stipulated guidelines provided by UGC

Moreover, to your friends at IIULER, please ask them why they are also a part of deciving IIULER as a Public University to everyone? Every Faculty over there states to its students and Scholars that IIULER is a Public University!

Will you give it a rest with the remote database in all posts! As if you research for five articles during your vacation! Most NLUs didn't have it for the first ten years of their existence and still managed to do fine. If you are a student who doesn't wish to study there anymore, then quit already!

The quality of the faculty is very poor. Until the 3rd year, you are taught by RATAs (people who have not completed their PhDs yet). The location is problematic, and the people are very toxic. Additionally, the local Odia teachers are very biased towards Odia students, speaking in Odia during viva exams will give you maximum marks.

In the last 2-3 years, placement numbers have been good because the students are hardworking, but this is not sustainable unless the administration is willing to implement reforms in examination processes and improve the quality of teachers.