That depends on how much they want to adhere to the rule of law. The insulting of the office/title of judge attracts contempt. If the judge is not acting in his capacity as judge, and you did not disrespect him in his capacity as a judge there contempt should not be attracted.

https://news.abplive.com/cities/ima-vows-kolkata-doctor-rape-murder-case-protest-to-continue-supreme-court-orders-west-bengal-doctors-to-resume-duty-tuesday-rg-kar-case-1716137

https://x.com/dr_co0l/status/1833123231487705191

Meanwhile, Chief Justice Chandrachud is being trolled viciously online. I am not sharing the link as some of the allegations are absolutely scurrilous. But it's incredible that highly educated Bengali social media users from both right and left are making such remarks.

According to me, tiers are determined solely by placements, and I won't engage in disparaging any colleges. Here are the Tier 1 NLUs based on CLAT; NLS, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUJ, GNLU, and NLIU. While NLS, NALSAR, and NUJS were traditionally considered the T1s in our time, GNLU, NLUJ, and NLIU have also done well in recent years. If you get into any of these colleges and maintain good grades, you will secure a placement. Anyone claiming that NLIU or GNLU aren’t T1 NLUs is misleading you.

*NLU Delhi is also a T1 NLU and depending on your preferences, you might choose it over other traditional T1 NLUs. I hope this clears everything out.

This is actually a very good practice - they are helping you see the edits being made and 'think' about better drafting. You will not be able to appreciate the reasons for the changes or even notice the changes if edits are made directly on the email. This is a pretty annoying task for the partners as well. So appreciate the effort being put in to help you draft better. Cheers.

Gaurav Mitra, Sumesh Dhawan, Abhishek Anand, Hemant Sethi, Pooja Saigal, Biswajit Dubey, Abhishek Anand, Shaunak Mitra, Rishav Banerjee, Vipul Ganda, GP Madaan, Saurav Kalia, Ranjana Roy Gawai, Anandita Roy Chowdhary, Ruby Ahuja, Misha Bharti, Shyam Kapadia, Nausher Kohli, Rohan Rajyadaksha, Rohit Gupta, Jishnu Chowdhary etc.

does anyone have any information with respect to hiring practices at vidhi centre for legal policy; specifically whether they hire freshers? very keen on getting a job there when i graduate next year. i have already interned there once. any genuine tips/suggestions; from people who know how I can strengthen my chances there of getting a job, would be highly appreciated. thank you so much!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1x1Is_zqp8

@1:08 onwards. The bald gentleman with glasses.

For me, he was the standout counsel in the Abhaya hearing today. It was going the usual way: Sibal to taking most of the time; Menaka nodding ; Tushar pretty timid; other counsels getting little or no time (poor Karuna Nundy repeatedly begging for time but not being paid heed to).

But an exception was this lawyer, who forcefully intervened and made some bombshell arguments. What is this gentleman's name?

bro trust me all of us are in the same boat doesn’t matter tier 1 or 3 is its easier to say but you are smart enough to achieve everything in life if you are persistent enough that’s the only key the smartest people are not working at the tier 1 law firms they are all genuinely bringing change in law. I law firms only need slaves and someone to do due diligence basically clerks toh tension mat le bilkul job milna is the easiest thing might take time but ho jayega. All the best aur iss thread mein Aakar mujhe wapas batana kis tier 1 mein job lagi teri

I received a sample draft document from team secretary. The document properties had team secretary's name as author. I completed the draft and sent to Partner for review. Partner had no issues with the draft but he called me as unprofessional and lectured me because I didn't change the author's name in document's properties. I had no idea that it can be an issue.

People of LI- Can you please tell me if this is a big deal? Do clients actually care about Author's name in the document?

I'm a transaction lawyer and semi-qualified CS from Pune. After recovering from COVID, I joined a boutique law firm in October 2023, earning ₹35k/month. I handle all transaction-related work, manage juniors, and even educate the partner on corporate law.

I’m considering a switch due to low pay, lack of leave policy, and no Saturdays off. I believe an in-hand salary of ₹65k-₹70k is fair. Should I expect that at a new firm, or if I stay, how much of a raise should I ask for?

Anything by RGSOIPL (IIT).
An overwhelming number of faculty is absolutely not worth writing home about.
Their research output is ...

The other person has given a good list for ex-India.
For India, I would say, take a decent LLM + supplant it with internships so that Companies/ Firms find you immediately employable at end of LLM.

My assumption was pay was same only for A0s and A1 onwards (after your rotation) which team you work with and how much revenue it generates determines a good chunk of your pay. But recently I asked my friends in CAM who are at SA1/A3 level and was told that's not the case. So an SA in banking and finance, and SA in Cap markets and M&A and SA in TMT earn the same ?

I am about to submit my first research paper to a journal. It's a seminar paper I made in the 3rd year. How do I send it ? Do I remove the pages till the index, which are the front pages that cite the acknowledgement and university name ? Do I send from the chapter 1 till the bibliography? Or from the index page till bibliography? Which parts do I send the seminar paper ? Also is it legal for me to publish my seminar paper?

Exactly. Never been able to stand the taste of whisky. My parents were admitted to hospital for several days (but for different (and very serious, very concerning) reasons) within a few months of each other back in late 2015, when I was an impressionable thirteen year old. I visited them in hospital every day, and got to hate the smell of the hospital disinfectant. Somehow, whisky (of whatever kind) tastes to me like the disinfectant, and is really triggering, so I cannot tolerate it. I don't care how "snowflake-like", "woke", "oversensitive" or not-classy that makes me sound.

Wikipedia is 100% bound by Indian law. There are many judgements, especially from IP and defamation cases, holding that a website accessible in a certain jurisdiction, and actively targeting users in that jurisdiction, is bound by the laws of that jurisdiction. Wikipedia is accessible in India and asking users in India for donations on their front page, so both boxes are ticked.

Who are these clown Wiki editors appointing themselves as legal experts?? Some Gen Alpha kids who have zero idea of cyber law jurisprudence? Or someone deliberately trying to mislead?

It is a huge pain

First you spend on license, once in a blue moon applications are approved

Then you spend on the weapon

Then every year at least 5 times the executive magistrate will ask you to deposit the weapon for election/festival/re verification etc

God forbid if your weapon is stolen, absolutely over

Point is at every stage you need street smarts and sway, corp lawyers just don't have that

Another imp part is the threat level is not too high for them to go through the trouble

Yes definitely worth it, because barring NLSIU most people are unaware about NLUs for some reason. It’s incredible how you will get blank stares if you mention NALSAR or NUJS outside of the legal community.

So if you are a graduate of an NLU other than NLSIU, it’s worth investing 20 lakhs for this course. You get an MBA and an IIM brand without the difficult obstacle of obtaining 99% percentile in the entrance and clearing the GD, plus it’s an online course which accommodates your work schedule.

Never heard of The Probe. Seems like a poor man’s version of The Wire. Busy raking up tired tropes about caste, class and gender, instead of engaging in rational, scientific analysis about how mental health issues can be addressed, such as:

- timely therapy and treatment by qualified doctors and counsellors: medication if necessary

- promotion of healthy habits like sleeping early, yoga, meditation and exercise

- need for positive social interaction and friends

In addition to this, strict disciplinary action against students indulging in ragging, bullying and sexual misconduct : straight reporting to police of a criminal act is committed.

My partner discusses with me the plan for the week for all our deals. Helps me allocate work to the junior associates and asks me to delegate it to them. Sets timeline for each task including timeline for all levels of internal review. 15 minutes after this he checks with me if I have delegated. If I say no then we have a team call delegating work to the entire team with the same timeline. One of the junior associates falls sick, timelines are affected but nobody is chasing, so he makes me do it telling me I should suck it up as the senior resource and cover. I say it can wait since nobody is chasing but he goes yada yada about client servicing. Does not, actually cannot push back clients no matter how egregious the ask. He will justify it all in the name of the service industry. Nothing to show for spine. Complete monkey who needs something to chew at every minute.

one internship policy policy means that if you have interned once and then you didnt get a callback, then you cannot intern again. this policy and that policy where one rejection blacklists an applicant for 6 months sucks big time. High time KCO HRs change this. y'all pretend to be market leaders but do all this tactics.

Cap Marks is not easy as it may seem. Though the practice areas is DD heavy and some firms have low margins on it, it is still a good practice areas.

Though every company is trying to raise money through that same laws and regulations, every company is different and different set of rules apply on it. The role a company counsel is a bit more engaging and stimulating when compared to that of BRLMs Counsel.

Why are you people downvoting? See this link from a proper news site, which says:

Additional DCP (Dwarka), Nishant Gupta was quoted by Indian Express as saying that the student, a Chennai native, had been struggling with academic pressure and had previously expressed suicidal thoughts to her roommates in April this year.

https://www.news18.com/amp/education-career/nlu-delhi-third-year-law-student-dies-by-suicide-police-allege-academic-pressure-9040106.html

Kindly show some respect and good sense. Please rely on proper news sites only, instead of an obscure website. I agree there are certain problems at NLUD but that is a separate issue.

I don’t wish to dox myself, but let’s just say that I am eminently qualified to answer your question. Here’s my assessment:

First of all, understand that sometimes law schools with a lower overall ranking may be better for certain specialist courses. For example, say Fordham or GW over Chicago. But if you are obsessed with rankings then just blindly go for the top ones. But employers are more discerning and not obsessed with rankings like in India.

Second, understand that employers in India are not concerned about LLM degrees. In Europe, yes. In China, yes. In Brazil, yes. Not India.

With these two caveats, here are my views….

US: Tons of good law schools with good IP profs, but you might want to pick a law school where there is a large cohort of good IP profs and research centres. The US News IPR ranking are a pretty good indicator. Again, you will note here that many of the law scholars listed are not super-prestigious.
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/intellectual-property-law-rankings

UK: London colleges like KCL/QM/UCL tend to offer specialist IP modules with an emphasis on practical knowledge, whereas Oxbridge is a bit more theoretical and abstract. Whatever works for you. Oxford does offer a very nice IP programme for those wishing to practice, but unfortunately it’s a diploma and not a degree like the BCL. A diploma is not given weightage by Indian employers.

EU: CEIPI, MIPLC, Turin (WIPO),Stockholm are good, safe choices. You could look at Leuven, Amsterdam and Tilburg too, but only as a second option IMO, for various reasons too lengthy to mention here (but they are still good).

Australia: Melbourne, UNSW and Sydney are good choices, but a bit theoretical.

India: NLSIU has good faculty. Jindal and NLUD used to have good IP faculty but most have left.

Here’s the Talk page containing the discussion thread on naming the victim.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2024_Kolkata_rape_and_murder_incident

Brought up here but another perspective:

- the weather is great but it has gotten worse over the years. What was once an all time situation is now a monsoon - winter situation, which you would come to find is pretty common across cities

- the crowds used to be helpful, the crowds have gotten pretty polarised over the years, and I've found people to be a lot more helpful and kinder in delhi

- again the city has gotten polarised over the years. If you don't speak kannada someone's out for you, if you speak kannada but aren't from Bangalore someone is still out for you, if you speak kannada and are from Bangalore someone will still find a reason to be out for you. People and their responses really have changed, wasn't the same as it was before

- metro connectivity is still barely there. The work that started when I was in middle school is still ongoing. I've graduated college!

- world cuisines used to be good, but now feels overpriced and most of it has adapted to a bland taste that appeal to no one, but doesn't anger anyone. The food scene in delhi is better even for world cusines

- great pubs and bars if you're looking for a Sunday brunch with family vibe, but by night it gets judgemental and sad pretty fast.

- the cosmopolitan culture has been dead for a while now. Most people live in their own socio cultural silos. This is something I realised in school and from what I've heard it's only gotten worse since.

- the infrastructure is non existent. Most projects have a 15 year term of completion and do you really have a road in Bangalore if it hasn't been broken down and dug up and rebuilt a 100 times before a pothole forms in 2 days of use.

- the corruption in this city is visible from miles away. The facilities provided by the govt is so so so terrible you have no choice but to go pvt.

-If you live in blr, have a cushy job supported by an MNC, have access to great international schools for your kids, live in a private gated community, with access to private international hospitals, with private insurance and private security and private water contractors, with every single aspect of your life privatised to the extent that there is literally no reason for you to ever interact with the government or the state, your life will be amazing.

(This is party wide, and not subject to any single party, I have lived through every party that has come and gone and each and every single one of them turns out to be just as bad)

I just had 2 Qs:

1. Is this course worth it for law grads, in terms of job opportunities and ROI?

2. Can you brag about the IIMA tag like Navya and will the market respect you? Or will you be treated as second-class compared to the traditional MBA? I mean, if you're not gonna get respect even after paying 20 lakhs then maybe better to do a course abroad with that money? Or even ISB?

For those who live on Mars and don't know the context, here is is:

Navy has a bachelor's degree from Fordham University, but instead of doing an MBA abroad she made it to IIMA and opted to study there. She posted a photo of her at IIMA with the caption "Dreams do come true". https://www.instagram.com/navyananda/

This post has been trending heavily. Fake news was spread by her fans that she scored 99.9 percentile in CAT, while her haters also spread fake news that she made it through a donation quota or NRI quota. But now a professor has clarified that it is the Blended Post Graduate Programme (BPGP). This is different from the flagship MBA programme. Here is a description of the programme:

"This is an online MBA programme by IIMA for entrepreneurs and professionals who want to continue working alongside academics. It focuses on teaching managerial skills to working management professionals. The duration of the course is 2 years."

The course fee is 20 lakhs and to get in one has to give CAT or GRE, but the cut-off is not the same as flagship and they give weightage to work ex. In Navya's case, she is of course a super-popular vlogger and influencer.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/did-navya-naveli-nanda-get-into-iim-ahmedabad-through-quota-iim-professor-answers-101725331082349.html

https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/decoding-blended-post-graduate-programme-bpgp-in-iim-ahmedabad-online-mba-enrolled-by-amitabh-bachchans-granddaughter-navya-naveli-nanda-13811900.html

Guys, thanks for this useful thread. I had two questions:

1. Now that Indian whiskies are getting some global recognition, is it acceptable if I serve Indian whiskey to guests? Which brands,

2. If I don’t want want to drink for certain reason (driving, in a diet etc) which is a push non-alcoholic drink to order?

Tks.

Don't lose hope. Keep applying for jobs as and when vacancies arise. Cold emailing sometimes helps. Try accessing whatever network you have and ask them to keep an eye out for a job for you.

Regarding courses, experience & skills always trump these certifications. So even working at a small place will help in gaining skills and network which will definitely help you in the future.

However, do not sit idle for too long. If nothing comes up in few months, then think about these courses ONLY so negativity does not affect you while sitting idle and at least the mind would be doing something productive.

I came across these video links shared by a present NLSIU faculty member on LinkedIn. He was earlier teaching at NALSAR and has recently transferred to Bengaluru.

1) Introduction to Academic Legal Writing - Session 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIUmcAGc72s

2) Introduction to Academic Legal Writing - Session 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0gOdWNdyMQ

3) Introduction to Academic Legal Writing - Session 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpLOkcIACA

1. National Law firms.

2. In-house

3. Judiciary

4. UPSC/SPSC

5. Govt in-house through clat pg

6. SEBI/RBI/ JAG autonomous exams

7. MBA (consulting and below jobs, yet to see an investment banker or hedge fund manager from law)

8. Litigation

9. Academia

10. Policy firms

11. Foreign law firms(maybe) after foreign LLM/ or 2-3 years of experience in capital markets.

12. Something called LPO ( I came to know about this recently, thanks to LI).

13. Foreign in-house ( I have seen this wrt to banks. Folks work in foreign banks based out of India and then move abroad).

Anything else. Please let all of us know. Right now, litigation, law firms and in-house can only be called a "field" as such. One can't really base his career choice on clearing competitive exams.

Because NLUJ and NLIU have great placements (more than NLUD and NLS) most of the time

Plus the legacy of these colleges are unmatchable when it comes to mooting (NLUJ especially)

Foreign vacation schemes and training contracts in Linklaters Allen & Ovary are quite common

There is no reason for these colleges to not be considered tier 1 unless someone is ignorant like you?