Hi everyone, I am a final-year law student currently at a tier 3 private college. I am academically strong as I am the topper of my course. I have an interest in Corporate Law and IPR. Currently, I am doing a 6-month internship at a boutique firm specializing in IPR. I have strong drafting skills related to trademarks and can draft almost all legal documents pertaining to it. This internship will end in December 2024. I have also secured one-month internships at Anand and Anand, Lex Orbis, K&S Partners, and Remfry & Sagar for different months. The firm where I am doing my 6-month internship has offered to absorb me, but since it is a boutique firm, their pay will be lower.

Please advise whether I should continue with the boutique firm after the 6-month internship or if I should try to intern at these tier 1 IPR firms. Which should I choose? Also, if there are people working in these firms, could you please tell me the chances of these firms offering a PPO or if there are any vacancies for fifth-year students?

It is just FM and The Couple. One of the latter would have had it easy but FM is nervous about politics in Bihar and CNLU is a pit stop for him. NUJS is the only option for him. He also ticks the right boxes for the regime here. Whatever student opposition The Couple may face, FM appointment will be smooth. At this point, all that the Establishment wants is a smooth operator to administer the spoils accruing from "development" projects in the pipeline that NKC will sign off as soon the extension is given.

The Couple will be suitably accomodated in NUJS campuses in Asansol and Siliguri

I received a mail from the IIPT pertaining to the Job Express Program wherein they claim to provide 90 days training for working remotely as a US Paralegal for the USPTO. Does anyone have experience regarding this program or the IIPT in general? Is it worth enrolling into? Please advise.

Hey, I’m sorry you’re going through this. I’m a mid level professional and find myself in a similar situation. However, as they say this is not my first rodeo and I’m able to somewhat manage work despite the setting. Being indirect and subversive does not come naturally to many of us and it can feel quite disheartening to realize that there is no avoiding such people - unfortunately, my opinion is that one must learn to cope and (to some extent extent at least) play these “games” in order to thrive in the corporate world. A rule of thumb - don’t display anger / emotion openly unless the situation really warrants it. Calling out such behaviour openly with your boss or other seniors may be a last resort option, but often it unfortunately comes with the perception of pushing your own agenda forward. Check out Robert Greene’s work for some actionable inputs.

Been working in a law firm for around 1 year now, with decent knowledge and experience. However, recent family fallout has stripped of lot of our family wealth and liquid assets and we are virtually left with nothing now. Though I feel satisfied with the career trajectory, I still however, face the constant pressure of settling-down quickly in life as I would have to support my family at some point- though it's not the case as of yet. My father is the sole earner and I occasionally help me with whatever I can. Practically speaking, I am thinking of taking up a more stable vocation , such as MBA or job in Process Outsouring industry while I have the time and resources to do it. I am not sure about the same but, can anyone help me with my dilemma.?

Bhoumick is one of the best to work with he is calm composed progressive and has excellent knowledge in his field, which are exceptionally great qualities to have…. He is positive in his approach and even his team reflects the same… he moves forward with his team in unity which is a great attribute. Excellent partner and team to work with.

Saraf disputes will be down to half its size. They will find it very difficult to replace Manmeet. He is the 4th from the Luthra set to exit after Gayatri (IP), Sachit (real estate) and Murtaza (capital markets). There is news that post Murtaza’s exit to Trilegal, the partners were asked to sign new contracts which were quite onerous and one sided and Manmeet and his team refused to sign up to those. This reminds me of the time when Mohit Saraf had introduced three year lock-ins in the associate contracts at Luthra which required the associates to claw back 40 percent of their retainers if they left before three years.

Right now i am a practicing advocate at an high court since last one year. I just filled CLAT 2025 form. I guess right now i am seeking something more in this profession.

1.Would it be worth it to leave practice for a year and get a LLM degree from a NLU?

2.Would it be better if i do it from abroad?

From what I know it was an aggravated case of ragging ( that's what people are saying)

I was in that fest and people told me that the students of GNLU were trying to escape the investigation ( they booked their tickets on the same night of the unfortunate happening ). everyone in that room was giving different statement. I hope this is not true, but apparently, the people in that room brought him back up the stairs to the same room ( apparently, the police found blood stains there) and had the audacity to sleep in the same room with all those stains. when the police came they appeared like nothing happened. Also, apparently, the police were informed by the OCs, not the GNLU students. IDK, this is depressing, and I sincerely hope this is not true, but what is true is that this was no suicide. May god give strength to his family and may he rest in peace.

"Many of us have had to hustle without any safety nets, unlike some who benefit from family ties in high places."Dude the entire point of joining a firm is safe and secure monthly salary. Unlike you corporate coolies we don't have the privilege of getting a fixed income. It's us who don't have the safety net of fixed wage. We have to mend for ourselves and having connections can get you a good chamber and thats it from there you have to prove your mettle in court.

"Your disdain only highlights your own insecurity and lack of appreciation for the diverse contributions we all make. So please stop diminishing others to inflate your own sense of worth."

Insecure of what? Not working in real estate practise or M&A. What exactly is real estate practise? Briefing RERA lawyers? Lmao, If anything, law firms exist for the rich clients and you guys serve them.

"Also, it's frankly amusing to see your disdain for corporate lawyers when, in reality, we take pride in our work and the income it provides. We put in 14-hour days, and earn our pay through hard work, not by relying on handouts or connections."

People in every profession work hard, it's not limited to you law firm coolies. What matters is the output. You work for the rich and help them get richer. We advocate serve the society. Its we who stand between the common man and the police. We are the ones who help people in every step. Police don't even register an FIR easily if not for a lawyer. Its us who get people's justice by performing in courts. Not you guys. So we have every right to discard you people.

In short, you're not a real advocate brother, you don't practise in court and you work for a toxic law firm which adds no value to the lives of a common man. So don't masquerade as one.

There is no need to ratto- fi everything. I am assuming you may be from science or commerce background. But anyways most people face a little bit difficulty in writing long ass answer which usually requires in law some tips from my side although I am not any pro.

Most people might not agree but no. of pages filled matter( depends on the teacher also)

If you understand the concept just write in your own words with few technical jargons

to increase the length use as much example as you can

Start your answer with introduction and end it with conclusion

there is no need to remember case laws for everything and also try to identify some common case laws which can be used in different sections

you can also asks your teacher for help by writing few sample answers and tell them to grade it gradually your skillset will increase.

Hope you do well in your exams.

-Pretty much every A0-A1 works in an environment that can quite easily replace them with a metric pass clerk who knows how to use SCC/format documents.

-Bombay HC seniors not paying interns a dime despite charging lakhs for an oral opinion shows everything wrong with the profession in our country.

Tier 1 SA here. Have seen people who don’t perform get given extended probation periods followed by news that their probation wont be confirmed. It is less rare but some people who have been working for 1-2 years be told they’re being put on PIP, which eventually leads to firing.

Hi,

It’s been two months now, and I still find myself making silly mistakes in almost every draft I send. It’s quite embarrassing, and I’m starting to feel a bit discouraged. Is this normal when starting out? Did everyone go through this phase early in their career? How did you all improve and get past it?

What should a 3rd tier law college graduate do to break into the Legal world?
Being of a Lower middle class financial background, I dont have any financial support and need to sustain myself financially. I am in my last year of 3yr LL.B. and have done Internship under a district court lawyer only..

As an intern, unless you're exceptional, no one would care enough to be rude to you. Constant abuse doesn't mean curses. It's a lot of things which you'll only see behind the retainer. (I hope you don't) My friend was literally told as an A0 that you have a phenomenal urge to learn, but we don't have the time for it, buckle up or fall down.

No one in the legally industry really cares all we do is pretend. We see countless posts on LinkedIn from lawyers about the bad pay for freshers but none of them act on it they just agree that there is systemic problem heck even the CJI said freshers should be paid but didn’t take any action towards it. The whole legal industry just pretends.

So your argument that NLS Faculty are in a different league altogether has now boiled down to evidence that they are in the same league as NUJS faculty, but a few points ahead in one metric, while behind in another? Now that's a different argument altogether. But then you say that you believe that projects don't lead to publications, which is further undercutting your argument that you know anything about how academic research works. In addition, QP is not about the 'number of publications' but the quality of publications including indexed publications. It seems to be quite reasonable to assume that faculty and researchers of better quality will produce better quality publications, isn't it?

NLS: Saurabh Bhattacharjee, Aparajita Lath, Gauri Pillai, Darshana Mitra, Sahana Ramesh, Sidharth Chauhan, Shalmoli. I can vouch for these people personally. Mrinal and Nigam if you can get hold of them.

NLUD: Not many, but Dakshina Chandra is one of the few. So is Yogesh Pai on some issues.

NLUJ: Try Sayantani Bagchi.

NALSAR: Hardly any left.

quality legal education is unreasonably high keeping in mind that there are no guaranty of decent placement even in top nlus unlike in engineering colleges. Like some colleges are asking approx 10l per year this fee doesn't justify even at the end of the day you get placed. keeping in mind the whole batch will not get placed

Straight to the point, I do not know jackshit about writing in lawschool exams. I understand concepts, i read them but i do not know how to write them in the answer sheets that will fetch me marks, and I also don't know how to ratto-fi everything in the syllabus. Any help would be appreciated. Please!

Having worked with the team for over 3 months soon after graduating, my assessment is as follows:

1. Electricity partner (Delhi NCR)- Has a small vertical of one associate, who prepares most first cuts, which are then reviewed by the partner. He mainly has discom clients. The volume of the work is good but quality could be better.

2. IBC partner (Delhi NCR)- He mainly works on IBC mandates. Almost all associates, except the ones who directly report to Manmeet/electricity partner/Mumbai team, work under him. The associates staffed in his vertical complain about lack of legal inputs / guidance coming their way from this partner. Many have complained against him in the past but he always got off scot free.

3. Disputes partner (Mumbai)- Although I barely got the chance to work with him, I heard that he is a kind person to work with. Not sure about the team composition now but during my time at Saraf, there was only one SA under him. His vertical was doing the Byju matter, as per B&B.

If you're planning to apply with this team, try working directly with Manmeet. His inputs on the matters are genuinely omniscient. He is respected in the industry and has a good clientele. You will learn much better with him.

I hope this is helpful.

Oh really? Do you know any chamber at lucknow which pays and the senior is good enough to mentor you? I'm stuck in a situation where I joined a chamber here at lucknow and the senior neither pays me nor even lets me file vakalatnama in his cases. All I do is read files and draft somewhat bits his son gives me. Also since he got a son I get no opportunities to appear in court. I want an out.

https://m.thewire.in/article/health/why-we-arent-comfortable-acknowledging-suicides-the-story-of-my-brother

Please read this.

And hell to Big law which killed him.

Extremely few partners (who are not founders of their firms) earn more than 10 crores after tax. I can’t imagine more than 20 to 25 such people all over India but I could be wrong. If you are a founder of a successful law firm, your earnings will easily exceed this but there aren’t so many individuals in the latter category either. In summary, don’t count on this result happening in your career (on an inflation adjusted basis), but definitely back yourself if you think you can get there (I appreciate that you are a non-law student but am conscious that law students may also be viewing this thread and don’t want them to be discouraged in any way). Best of luck!

"You won't even get to be on campus"

What does that mean?

"the life outside campus isn't the best and the area around isn't really great either."

Yes. It is situated in the underdeveloped outskirts of Kochi and the place has not developed decent cafes or other citylike amenities even after a university like NUALS came up there