The numbers I mentioned in the OP are an example for calculation purposes. I am an in-house counsel (where my income is taxable) moving to a firm mid financial year (Feb), and not an A0 starting in June.

I appreciate your help but everyone just wants to presume and attack people on this forum. I’ve been taxed differently for the time I’ve worked as an in-house counsel, hence my query.

Only you can answer that question.

What are your priorities in life?

Would your savings be enough to travel for a year? [I would suggest doing some research before jumping in]

Do you have any financial responsibilities?

Are you confident enough to take a break after one year (for one whole year) thinking you would be of value to a firm and they would want you back with enthusiasm?

Nothing wrong with travelling for a year, or even doing it at your designation. Don't listen to anyone who says NO. If you can answer the above questions satisfactorily, are confident about your decision, do you.

Hello, i recently gave clat 2025 and i couldn't get a decent enough rank- 8k, I know i messed up so please don't waste your time telling me that, instead, please help me decide where i should go to, my options are-

- RPNLU Prayagraj [reservation and vacancy]

- HPNLU Shimla [vacancy]

- Nirma Universtiy

- Bennett University

- I will also be MH-CET law.

please suggest some better options as well.

also Is it worth going to a t-3 nlu and getting that nlu tag considering one does enough hard work? can one get into a tier 1, if not, tier 2 law firm with a good package?

I went to NLS to interview the students on Day Z. We interviewed students from both the 3-year LLB as well as the 5-year LLB. Honestly, the BALLB students were better in all aspects. The CV, the depth of knowledge and other like considerations. From a hiring perspective, we did not have any biases against the 3year LLB. We hired whoever was fit for the job. However, the 5-year folks who appeared were not good enough. Its not about the program, its about the quality.

Completely agree. Though would be great if you can name these seniors and if ok, also share their ball park fees. Am not someone looking to join them but to brief them and it's always better to have more options to take care of unavailability issues, though you always have counsels you've good rapport with.

Hi,

I will join as an A0 with the arbitration team of a Tier 1 firm. My joining date will probably be in the third week of July. Since I am in my fifth year, I have a lot of free time, and I was wondering how I should prepare myself. Are there areas of law I should brush up on? Is there any other skill I should try to pick up?

I am asking this because I feel I am getting lazy in my 5th year and I know it is difficult, but I want the transition to be as smooth as possible.

20 lakhs if you had said that would make sense.

2 lakhs you can only travel all over the country that too by the cheapest trains you can find.

Can't really travel the world with 2 lakhs.

And no, it wouldn't be easy to get back in.

1 year of experience + 1 year of traveling doesn't make a good CV for a person two years out of college.

What an asshat of a comment! Privilege? Bro, the only privilege that exists is in the Senior Advocate system in India. This guy would never have become a Senior in India at this age, but in the West they follow meritocracy, so he became a KC. India is a country running on privilege and nepotism at one end, and freebies and reservation at the other. Zero meritocracy.

OP here- My savings will grow with my bonus in March and salaries until May. I expect to have around 3 lakhs by next May. Since I have no major responsibilities, I’m thinking of traveling around India during that time. I’ll need to develop a remote skill to support myself while on the move, but apart from that, I’m confident I can manage living in dorms and sticking to a budget with this amount.

I would say take HNLU, if you want the NLU tag. It's the best Tier 2 NLU for a long time now. Can also consider NLUO, but the admin is horrible.

Take JGLS if you have the money. Avoid RML like the plague, it's a ▮▮▮ of broken dreams, failure and zero placements. Hardly anyone gets placed, no tier 1s come to campus and a culture of mediocrity thrives

I'm from a college under Mumbai University (not GLC), but I've done internships at Tier 1 firms. If I secure another internship through personal contacts, what are my chances of getting a PPO?

& In which T1 firm should I apply for assessment internships to maximize my chances?"

Is it common for Capital Markets teams in firms to have poor work-life balance, or are there exceptions?I feel like I don't have great drafting skills when it comes to drafting replies and appeal but I'm interested in Finance regulatory practice. I'm keeping caps mark as my secondary option

Which practice area is better between these two?

State NLUs are no better....

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NLSIU is literally the legal genius factory of India. Boils down to academic rigour and strict standards. No grade inflation here, you gotta work hard.

Hey! I believe its purely luck. I am a first gen with absolutely no connections. I just mailed to her chamber with my CV and a cover letter to show my inclination. It required 2-3 follow ups but I finally got a reply after 2 months. You just have to apply early and keep sending follow ups.

In the legal field, with experience of 1.5 years now. Litigation, to be exact. Tired of paper pushing work that I do. I know all about that exposure thing one might experience in the litigation space, but the dilemma for me is, that to what end such exposure. Legal system is a sham.

In that case, is there any field where real productivity happens. Like where there is physical manifestation of output for the work done. If innovation and STEM careers are an alternative for this, then how can one transition to such space without much hiccups.

Has anyone applied for an internship at Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi Office, for February 2025? I applied back in November but there has been no response on their end yet. I understand that Vidhi Delhi has always been tardy in getting back on internship status, sometimes confirming acceptance a literal day before the internship is due to start. So I was just wondering if the selections have not been made yet, or have they been made and I've been rejected.

PS: This is not for those who applied through connections. I know that you know one month in advance that you have been "selected". I am asking those who applied through the Google Form.

PPS: Please help OP.

Has anyone applied to Project 39A for an internship in February? I applied back in November, cleared the first stage of the application process, and sent a thousand-word writing sample for the second stage. This was 19 December. There has been absolute radio silence on their end since then.

So I am wondering if the selections have already been made, or have they not made them yet, presumably because they are busy with shifting to NALSAR.

Pray help the OP.

You do realise the slippery slope is actually a fallacy and not an argument right ?

If you lock up criminals today - some day the state will lock up innocent people isn’t actually convincing. We can actually differentiate in life between like and unlike. We do it everyday. Police conduct raids on drug dens everyday without ever bursting through my house. Security check on airplanes literally check bags everyday and people understand that safety is more important than privacy when you’re up in the air and a crazy person might have a knife or a gun or a bomb.

Privacy is not the only value at play here- the rule of law , the safety of other students and yours , all of that is at play too. The right to privacy is a judicial creation that’s not anywhere in our constitution. Created whole cloth by judges it can be destroyed whole cloth by judges too. Law students should know better than making such simplistic WhatsApp arguments.

In any case I don’t actually disagree with you. I’d like for universities to not check my bags. And for everyone to imbibe whatever substances they choose provided they aren’t being a danger to others. But I do think it should come with responsibility. It’s not fair to demand privacy to do crimes while holding the university accountable for your actions. If you choose to do drugs- your mental decline , your failing academic career , the crimes you commit , whether or not you OD should all be your responsibility alone. Don’t cry or complain about the admin when you won’t give them a shot to fix the problem. If admin catches you with drugs - they are duty bound to initiate criminal proceedings. If you can bear all that responsibility - like the adults you’re pretending to be. Then you have the freedom to do as you choose.

That’s all I’m saying. Explain to me why that’s unfair ? Why do Indian students want to rebel and be babied at the same time? Why ask to be treated like adults when you’re choosing to drown yourself in alcohol and drugs and entering into relationships and then demand to be protected like children when you get in trouble because of your choices ? There’s really no way to have it both ways.

Hi,

I’m currently at an A0 level and will complete a year in May. I’m thinking about taking a sabbatical to travel the world for a year. I have savings of around 2 lakhs. How wise would it be to leave my job after completing one year and pursue this travel plan? Also, would I be able to re-enter the workforce after taking such a break?

I am completely with the students on this. The administration has spent to bring in scanners, metal detectors, and additional security guards (all costing lots of money) to check students. All of this money has come from the student fees. So the university is using student fees to harrass students. Students paying ₹1 lac a month in fees deserve full freedom. After all, they are funding the university - as customers they have the most say.

If autonomy means that you can commit crimes and then hold university accountable for that, then the university is acting reasonably enough in compromising said privacy. Either behave like adults who are not going to look to the university for protection, but to general law enforcement machinery, or else like people who put their trust into the university in knowing the right thing to do. Can't have it both ways.

So, wrt NLSIU Stats: 1) 1 Confirmed ppo from s& r 2) 2 ppos under consideration; 1 rejected a ppo offer 3) 3 vacation schemes from A&0, and HSF 4) one mufg wud also take one under their trainee contract 5) multiple people have callbacks from cam currently- around 9-10, and few will do theirs in feb and few june- 6) sam rolled out around 8-10 callbacks too that students will do in feb. so basically people got callbacks from their first internships but wanted to try more- before committing to a firm- so its mostly delayed cause of that- but we might get tons of ppos all together after feb break because a lot of callbacks will happen in feb-- there are around 15-20 callbacks scheduled for feb- so lets see

Sorry pressed submit my accident, to continue

….even a “new” senior we brief charges 2.5-3/L hearing but does 3-7 matters a day, that is 7.5L/day at the low end to 21L/day at the high end. For tax these guys also do several opinions / week + conferences at 0.5-1.5L per conference which are equal in number to the number of matters for the next day. So no a senior does not need to charge 5L/matter but does need to be “busy”. I know of at least 15L tax seniors at BHC making 10Cr ++

This is the constant problem with Indian students at Indian unis (especially the fake "flashy" kind like Ashoka). Always ruining their reputation by protesting about utterly silly, childish, nonsense stuff. At least in Oxford and Columbia and other western unis they are protesting about Gaza. The fact that that stuff is totally wrong-headed also is another matter altogether, but at least they are protesting on serious matters!

The intent behind your post is correct but several factual errors. I work in a large Tax Lit firm in Bombay. We brief several seniors everyday. It’s a small cohort though - maybe 5-6 on each the direct and indirect side - so you are correct that it is concentrated in very top end. However, each of these busy senior does multiple matters a day, even a new senior we briefs charge

You do realise that if you allow arbitrary searches in the name of drugs today, it leads to more and more arbitrary and draconian searches in any other name in the future. Right to privacy is fundamental to our constitution. Today the searches are to prevent drug usage and limited to pocket checks, tomorrow it will be for something else and will even extend to student rooms being searched. It sets a precedent and allows admin to slowly move towards more and more draconian measures to curtail student movement and autonomy.

Its because senior advocates are briefed by law firms. Do you think its easy to just go to court and argue a case? Dispute teams in Law firms spend days on a case to brief the senior advocate.

Its just pure nepotism and connections that help Senior Advocates make that kind of money. A chamber of a senior Advocate would not be able to handle so many big cases otherwise.

Im going to law school starting this july. Not an NLU, like i had hoped for- but rather Symbiosis Nagpur or Hyderabad.

Brace yourselves, this is going to be a bit

being from an NLU gives you an edge in the competition, for sure. But ppl i’ve spoken to (including coaching centre faculty) tell me that it’s going to be extremely tough if you want to to get an internship opportunity or if you want a job after you’re done with schooling.

Im going to give my 100% ofc, including participating in extra curricular activities. But there’s still this fear in me that spending all the money is not going to end up being worth. we’re not very financially well off either.

Because as an aunty who’s daughter studies in an NLU told me “The top recruiters aren’t even going to look your way”, “You’ve got to beg for jobs” and “Getting a Tier 1 would be like a dream”

maybe she exaggerated that a bit but i still cant help but wonder, is being from a Non-NLU really that unsafe? even if i do give my all, will i be cooked lol?

and please do tell me if i should go for SLSH or SLSN since those are the best options i have in my hands rn. I was aiming for pune but fell extremely sick on the day of SLAT and here i am. drop is not an option either.

how can i compensate for not having the advantages that come with being an NLU student? Will that really be a huge problem?