You used all the buzzwords, "privilege" "excluded" "starving", must feel nice about yourself now? Or did you pick it up from your echo chamber? Point at one large scale survey that has captured these systemic deficiencies and not these one off incidents that are bound to happen with a 1.5 billion population

Is svarniti law tier 2 fim ? is the salary for fresher 60 thousand to 80 thousand ? is the work profile litigation related as one of the person i know is joining here for 60 thousand monthly salary which is excellent for litigation . how do one get paralegal of assesment internship there ?

this also includes current NALSAR VC, under whose regime most of the star faculty of NALSAR left. Which he hasnt exactly been able to replace considering many of the newly hired professors who can match the same quality of education. Hope his term gets over soon and some other competent professor can take over.

A child once very sweetly (and in perfect seriousness) asked me, "Do lawyers fight and argue with each other outside court also? And if so, do they do it all the time?". She is grown-up now, but I wish she could read this page. I think all the comments here might give a helpful indication as to the answer to her question.

This argument is not satisfactory. All systems are imperfect, even more so when designed for the first time. Aadhaar is no exception. But imperfection of design cannot be the sole condition for evaluating a system since no system can satisfy the condition of perfectibility. Your argument is acceptable only if it can be shown that UIDAI and other government agencies have, over time, not measurably improved their systemic capacities to apply Aadhaar without unfairly excluding legitimate beneficiaries under PDS.

no no. Dont construct fake people. How many? How many real ones? Where are these large scale surveys and reports of people starving because they couldnt get an aadhar made? Are they just in your imagination or do we have any data to support this spectre?

or do you not care to actually find out because youre so high on the feeling of being a good person who cares so much about the poors?

If you don’t enjoy being a litigation lawyer (or a lawyer in general), see law only as a means of livelihood (which is completely ok) and want to prioritise work life balance in the long run - try joining the litigation practice of a tier 1/2 law firm for now. Do this for 3-4 years at least and then switch to an in-house role. You are young and can hustle through for some more time. The years you will spend at a lawfirm will put you on an accelerated career path in an in-house role. If you join an in-house position right now, you are likely to be hired at a junior role and will have to spend a lot more years to reach the same position which you can reach by spending about 3-4 years more in a tier 1 law firm.

I assume you are working with some IT/BIG4CA firm (TCS/Wipro/KPMG likes) In house to law firm transition won't be easy. Your weekends, somewhat fixed hours - forget it, kiss it goodbye. But if you are desperate to join a law firm, want that extra money then it's a good opportunity.

Join, get experience of 1 year and switch within the firm (Atul, Veena or if newly promoted partners - parvathy or maggon have a team of their own at the first place/any vacancy) or leave. Parvathy and Maggon both of them are really good to work with, sweet peeps as PAs. Trilegal emp law practice is stellar.

▮▮▮ Join. Don't loose the opportunity. Negotiate for an A0 role instead of being a trainee associate.

Don’t stress this much bro I was also in a similar situation from the third of my college. Always felt stressed thinking about getting a job, had sleepless nights, constant anxiety and stress but finally landed a job and after sometime also got cancer due to all the stress. So just keep working but don’t get too stressed and discouraged. You’re still young there’s you will get the job you want you will get the career you want but just take it easy on yourself.

It is a good place to begin your career. For sure, it is not easy to be there, tough seniors, difficult management, but you will learn a lot. Partners are smart, smarter than a lot of T-1 partners. However, they do not invest a lot of time in training their associates. If you are not getting any offer from T-3 firms, please go ahead with Amicus.

Comparison is the theft of joy.

Previous generation were did not know how less they were earning compared to their peers in West. AC in home was considered a luxury(a want) and not a necessity(a need) as it is today. As for sexual repression, my opinion maybe unpopular but they did not have much sexual feelings compared to Westernized generation today.

It’s an insult to offer someone with PQE a trainee associate position, as the pay is considerably less compared to that of an associate while the work load being similar. Also, considering the reputation this team has, I would not even consider responding to the mail. Cut your losses and look elsewhere where they actually value you.

YES. Because Gen Z peeps have great expectations that arise from an unfounded sense of entitlement. They want everything without having to do the hard work that is expected. Also, mental health is now the go to excuse to cover every level of professional incompetence. The proof would lie in the number of downvotes that this post is going to garner simply because Gen Z does not want anyone to show them the mirror of reality.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/bus-jodhpur-law-university-students-overturns-nagaur-dead-9880428/

Students were coming back to NLUJ from RGNUL's sports fest. The bus collided with a truck and overturned.

Expected by whom?

Between managing professional commitments (i.e. matters, client retention and business development) and personal life a vast majority of partners (paid and equity) don’t really have the time or inclination to “expect” anything other than good work product from their teams. The same holds true for principal associates and to an extent senior associates.

It almost appears that you have a rather self inflated sense of self worth i.e. you feel that professionals at work have a lot of time to spare to track your lifestyle and dictate the choices that you must make. From your post, it is rather clear that you are rather dismissive about what you perceive to be lifestyles your colleagues may have. When pointing fingers, remember that three point back at you.

My sincere advice to you, focus on the work and not judging others.

If that is so, you must be having a problem with teaching in English. You should go in some Marathi college. And while highlighting the struggle to revive Marathi Mandal, you yourself highlighted the problems you faced even to get a single signature, and that’s the same we are talking about. We genuinely feel all languages and cultures are important, but what we highlighted was favouritism towards CC & Marathi Mandal.

Well for your kind information, it is the students who have maintained the high image of college on their own, with their hard work and achieving substantial success in the field. So don’t blame students. Whatever image is left is only because of hardworking students of gLC and not the lazy, arrogant, egotistic Principal, Professor & staff.

I I have had the opportunity to work at the firm, and I write only for those joining the firm. I benefited from the firm and hope you can too, but sometimes the sheer negativity prevents you from thinking rationally.

The team shares a unique camaraderie, and the selfless mentorship provided by NDA is quite rare to find. That helps, and helps tremendously in unleashing your true potential + client facing opportunities for which you might have to wait for long years in other firms.

Having said that, it would be unwise to join NDA solely for financial gain. If money is your primary motivation, other firms might be a better fit. Each one to his own.

Lastly, there is no need to worry about the firm’s stability and revenues. It’s making good money - better than outsiders can imagine. It has a brand, and if you are smart, you can become a brand too. The firm supports this. If you just want to execute, get paid and go home - not the right place for you. If you are entrepreneurial, then this is the right place to hone your skills.

Btw, those who have left NDA, especially senior leadership folks, seldom speak negatively of the firm and thank the firm for shaping them. You won’t hear that of other firms. So there might be merit in joining, but only if your goals are beyond money.

Just wanted to clear the air! Decide intelligently.

Best of luck!

My current situation is that all my investments are either negative, or just a little above the FD rate, or a little above the savings rate.

In other words, I would probably have been better off if I had put the whole amount in an FD.

I presume many of you are in the same boat. How has it affected your life and how are you coping? Are you putting off major expenditures? Or just spending on luxuries as usual?

Many analysts are saying it will continue this way till 2030. The fact is that the Modi govt is in a state of paralysis and not enacting reforms that will encourage the markets. Only busy doling out freebies.

In my experience, some (not all mind you) products of Gen Z are very confused and clueless. Blaming failures and affectations on mental health is an easy cop out and method to disavow responsibility. Most of these so called mental health issues can be cured by discipline, exercise, eating correct food, and most importantly, wanting to be happy.

There's no need for any lobbying. J&K NLU is already confirmed.

https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2025/03/07/jammu-and-kashmir-to-set-up-national-law-university-jksa-welcomes-move.html

The proliferation (and brand dilution) of state NLUs continue unabated.

Interesting one.

Lot of it involve having a strong mindset. Clients are even more demanding when they know that the lawyer is young/not part of a law firm/new law firm etc.

Try and cultivate contacts and relationships. You will come across that there is a lot of work which your law firm colleagues can pass on due to pricing issue, subject matter knowledge, low end but repetitive work etc. These contacts will be more than happy to refer you work without any expectation (some may have monetary or non-monetary expectations).

You need to be a generalist since you will have to answer to varied client quries, but try to have some strong domain knowledge to differentiate yourself from junta!

Pricing - This is where it gets even more interesting. While you will be under tremendous pressure to start taking up work, but do hold your prices. It will be extremely difficult for you to increase your prices on annual basis or otherwise. There will be various tempting offers such as if you got 100, someone says that they only offer 80, you will say no, but if someone says 97, you may accept. Thereby you have anyways lowered your charge out rates and have left an impression in client's mind that they can downward negotiate fees. This will be very delicate, but do work on this.

On other jurisdictions, you will have to cultivate contacts of freelancers and work with each other in a collaborative manner.

Sharma Jee team is not so comfortable with this culture and OG Group is not happy with functionality of Sharma Jee team. Obviously, OG Group has huge legacy and no one can beat them. Also Sharma Jee can not leave just now.

Naya Ghar, Nayi Job, Nayi Gadi, Nayi..... Badhiyan Hai Sharma Jee.

UPSI: Since Sharma Jee can not leave, so his close associates are leaving one by one and lastly Sharma Jee will join them.

Integrity is not a privilege. Not wanting to attend classes or read a lot as a law student is akin to not wanting to see blood as a medicine student. If you don’t like the law - if attending classes is of no interest and reading about the law is a chore- go do a bba/bcom whatever. MBAs get just as much if not more money in this country and they don’t study a lot. Go do that.

It’s disgusting to cloak a lack of integrity in claims of being disadvantage. Poor people have just as much if not more integrity than rich people. And I’ve found that poor students at law schools are more driven and dedicated than their rich counterparts.

are you kidding me ? you sound like someone who hasn't ever worked in gen corp. There is soooo much application, new regulations to maneuver your way around almost always, new companies trying to enter into new spheres always. I know people with 7+ years of PQE who still end up doing new things on a regular basis, there is no end to diversification unless you really want to be a cynic and limit everything to calling it just a legal opinion. Like dude, it's hardly a legal opinion on the same thing ever. I mean, that's like reducing litigation to just filing a case after a case.

Regarding your first two questions, answer is no. Please improve your reading comprehension before wasting the time of others like this. I simply gave a general account of how power is operationalised in India’s democratic politics. That is all. I made no comment on my own view of it because that is not the point here. I am happy you have read Mehta; I think everyone should. But it only further underscores my point. In a democracy, you have to work to make your argument count. “Educate, organise, and agitate”, as the fellow said. Become an intellectual, join civil service, or contest election. If you want change in policymaking, you have to put yourself on the line instead of yapping all the time like some school-grade game theorist about balancing competing interests.

Imagine trying to defend something as corrupt and rotten as the Indian bureaucracy as an example of constitutional democracy. What a grim joke. Stop pulling the straw man. And stop putting words in my mouth. I said nothing about abolishing the civil service. Read the constitution again. Civil servants are there to assist the representatives of the people in carrying out their decisions in accordance with the rule of law. That is it. Everything else is tangential. There is nothing that Vidhi can do unless the representatives agree first.

Sometimes I forget how utterly ignorant I used to be as a school student. The age at which your fellow classmate completed their SAT and gained admission at their desired place of study, I would not have even known what SAT was, much less being capable of imagining to go another country for education. Oh well, the world is what it is. Thanks for the reminder.

Fair point. Ten minutes go quickly in a high-stake situation like interview. Regarding the lack of questions, did you get think that perhaps the rest of them did not see your profile/pedagogy/research as relevant in terms of how they want their academic programmes to be taught? Thanks and all the best.

A fair point. Nevertheless, in the spirit of arguing from the other side, is the profession of law in India realistically habitable for those who join it “late” in terms of career opportunities and potential discrimination? Just a query and without taking anything from your well-argued point.

Once again, this is a top-tier comment that the good moderators ought to mark as “featured”. Really wish if you could do a separate post on this subject since you are obviously experienced and well-informed about it and there seem to be a fair number of students here who may be looking to do an LLM in the near future, domestically or internationally, and who would surely benefit from your analysis. Again, thanks for such a comprehensive perspective.

You said that you have litigated for 3 years (the city you have not mentioned)- that might be an impediment for you to join the Big 4, especially your litigation background is not something they would be looking for. Same goes for GC or any M&A team. If you join any corp team, be prepared to face a complete discount of your lit experience and prepare to start as an A0.

Joining an in house will be a prudent option- as your litigation background will be something which would be of use to them. You would also be getting decent work life balance as well. However, be at peace with the fact that the salary will not be upto the law firm standards.

Alternatively, you can consider joining litigation team in a Tier 1/Tier 2 firm- the pay will be higher than what you were getting into the chambers, and your lit experience will also count.

Long story short, each option is doable. You just have to bite the bullet for couple of years.