(EDIT: NOT THE SAME PERSON AS THE OP) context perhaps on timing of this post https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/15/why-has-the-us-arrested-indian-american-analyst-ashley-tellis

one honest question, at the risk of encouraging you further but to illustrate why your posts are often trollish: why do you personally hate law firms so much, as you say? you realise advisory lawyers are a necessary part öf every legal profession in the world, and 99% of law does not end in court, right?

and for many it's a satisfying career. you get to help people, sometimes problems are tricky to solve intellectually or in terms of EQ, you might be getting to understand various businesses and their problems from the inside, bw involved in structuring, etc.

and even if you don't make partner, you might enjoy research or become counsel where the money is decent and hours might be good, or get into BD which some people enjoy, or you can start your own firm, which is pretty entrepreneurial, where you provide jobs to dozens or maybe hundreds of others, etc.

it's fine to prefer litigation, but to repeatedly discount an entire necessary part of the profession as paperwork, might be your genuinely held opinion, but it seems naive.

Why would they? Has Patrick Devlin's work been retracted because of the sexual abuse? Or that of John Searle, the Berckley philosopher? (And all this is before we get into the question of this person's possible guilt or innocence.) In fact, if anything, this should be more read and discussed and questions asked about the work in the context of these accusations (if found to be true), just as people have asked about how Patrick Devlin's arguments before the Wolfenden Committee could be squared with his own behaviour.

Totally reductive and unhelpful argument. If some people had their way, JK Rowling, of all people, would be banned!

Moderators - do your job and publish the comments! What's taking so long!? After all, that's what this site is largely for these days - somebody posting a provocation, other people responding and a third set of people just sitting on the sidelines watching, and enjoying the blood sport! The spectators of the blood sport are screaming for action!!

They are:

- Suharsh Sinha, Senior Partner, AZB (LLB NLSIU, LLM UPenn, MSc Oxford)

- Rishabh Kumar, Partner, Cooley LLP (LLB GLC, LLM Columbia)

- Ashraya Rao, Partner, KCO (LLB Symbiosis)

Zia Mody was on the jury. Also Rishad Premji, Harsh Goenka, Nandini Piramal and other A-listers.

https://et40under40.in/site/et-40-under-40/1916

I guess the only criticism can be that they have narrowly looked at law firm partners practising corporate and financial law (perhaps because of Zia’s bias) instead of expanding the field. For example, litigators like ▮▮▮ or jurists like ▮▮▮

Also, OpIndia’s attack against Rohin shows that the BJP and RW ecosystem have a vested interest in seeing Rohin punished, so we need to exercise caution.

Hahaha. Liberal and conservative minds are so different. Y’all think they’re reporting on this because Robin Bhatt is so scary and important to the right? Why ? Because of all the votes and people he can move or the money he can donate ?

When OP India writes these stories - understand it’s not because the people are important. It’s because they a) want to get their audiences laughing at how corrupt and hypocritical their opposition is and b) they want their audiences to absorb the cultural message that the left is this way, this crazy, this perverted, this corrupt, this amoral.

Maybe it was the Indira Jaising connection if anyone that made them write it. But it’s not because RB is some big deal to them. He’s just a joke and some canon fodder.

https://thewire.in/rights/south-asian-univeristy-protesting-students-point-larger-systemic-failure

SAU just like Nalanda Univ were conceived with lofty visions and statements but completely belied the promises made. And these are directly under MEA. I wouldn't single out the NDA because UPA did little to stem the foundational rot.

I use this reference for two things. Firstly, whoever wants us to believe that a regime change here will do great things is deliberately playing mischief. Let's not be headless chickens here as well. SJA superbly did it to us previously.

Secondly, despite far better documentation of institutional lapses etc, SAU students continue to get bulldozed. This doesn't mean that we continue to be nincompoops and play to the tune of the SJA who play second fiddle to JalVayu etc; instead recognise that we should come better prepared and have the tenacity for a long fight.

And in our context, we don't need a student body that is in cahoots with the admin.

It doesn't. Each passing year of work brings a new and different sort of hell - work pressure, pressure to drum up business, pressure to deliver; but it's all definitely still in legal hell-o-sphere. Now that I think about it, Dante's Inferno is probably about being a lawyer.

And the longer you wait to get out, the more unlikely it is that you ever will.

Quite a few friends and batchmates of mine interned there, though in disputes. The partner or so are mostly reliant on the PA/SA, and the associates are the worst is what they say - they take interns from disputes and other practice areas and give them their work to do and tell them its urgent while they themselves laugh and talk loudly. A SA in gen corp there is a sort of a relative of mine, and he agreed with the last part - about them laughing and disturbing. About work, he said that they don't have much work, and its chill

Good office, though they don't have as much work as the other traditional Calcutta solicitor firms - whose clients have mostly been loyal to them. The issue with breaking into Calcutta is that its a parochial bar - and the clients are loyal to the firms - especially in terms of the big ones. As regards LKS's work - I'm honestly surprised and disappointed that they sort of failed to break into the market - perhaps their strategy is bad, or they are into some very specific work that does not involve going to the Cal HC and/or other forums. In any case, payment really does not vary, though you may find a 10% difference here and other - because of the cost of living expenese - where those in Bombay will obviously be paid much more than someone in Delhi or Chennai. Also, why law firm? Go intern and do litigation - there is no point or future in working in law firms

5 d

s ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮. They squeeze out of the associate. The reasons being are follows-:

1. Small deal team which automatically means more work.

2. No flexibility- this worsens the situation

3. Partners attitude - keeping associate feedback session during retreat in Thailand is a testimony to my statement

4. Huge pressure

5. Highest attrition in lower and mid level

Trilegal BLR, Trilegal Mumbai (RC), TTA, CAM Noida and Bengaluru are good options to survive without being getting burn out otherwise it's ▮▮▮ 😭

Yes, it is possible.

Every year all MU colleges (including GLC) release a transfer vacancy list notice indicating the number of vacant seats available for transfer admissions for various years of all the law courses. Aspirants can follow the instructions given in the said notice and apply as per the same. I think admissions for transfers are usually based on marks obtained in law college (in the first year in your case), so as long as you have good marks in the first year you have a fair shot.

All the very best to you!

You write your name as a "tired associate". Well, well - means either of the two things - you are working at a law firm, or as an "associate" in a "law office". Let's get into both - what will you do in a law firm? What's your contribution? Even assuming you are brilliant, all you do is mere paperwork for your superiors. I'll simplify it for you before answering your question on whether it gets better:
1. Newly joined associate to PA - do the paperwork for seniors above you, work and butter seniors for promotion, and treat your juniors poorly - repeating the cycle. no real work done. even if you are in a non-clerical sector like disputes - you are doing nothing but drafting something that a senior advocate would throw in the dustbin - and while you may have your appearance "marked" in court - you wouldn't have argued - and have learned nothing.
2. Salary Partner/Equity Partner - well, well - promotion time, did accomplish something - partner at where? The name of the wall is not yours. You perhaps aren't bringing in business. To bring back Re. 1 in profit, you'd have to contribute Rs. 2-4 for the same - what's the use man? By this time the successful lads in litigation would have been outearning you while contributing to the law and enjoying their lives because instead of them chasing money like you did - they chased learning and work - and are now their own bosses - enjoying 100% of what they earn (I'll come to paying "associates" later).

In any case - as much as I hate corporate law firms and as much as Legally India Mods would not publish it (I hope you do - for a change I'm gonna write good stuff now) its a far easier career trajectory, along with easy money with benefits like having an office space which is proper and infrastructure etc - which suffers fundamentally from two things - lack of independence (you are no one, you are someone in a firm not having your name), and lack of intellectual work - its routine paperwork.

Second, on being an "associate" in litigation - its a stupid term put in place by primarily Delhi lawyers and very unfortunately followed by other cities as well taking a cue from Delhi. Let's be clear - law is a profession, and litigation is the example of that. You have advocates and in their chambers, chamber juniors. The traditional system as it came from the Britishers and followed by the Indians thereafter - required that these chamber seniors don't pay the juniors any money and these juniors would quote their fee from the instructing solicitors in the original side and from the clients in the appellate side - a practice thankfully still seen in the old chartered high courts. While I have nothing against the Delhi bar - its one of the best, their system of paying the juniors and calling them an associate is a mockery to the profession - it makes them a paid research assisstant who does nothing and has the same work description as an associate in disputes in law firms.

Now, does it get any better? Well, yes, in terms of money if you are in law firm, that too soon. Perhaps you are already being paid well. But in terms of mental satisfaction? never, in a law firm - you'll end up doing clerical work and wasting your talent - in litigation? yes, before it gets even worse and you manage to get out of it with sheer hardwork.

My man, I'd only give you one piece of advice - please don't make NCLT practice any more than 30-40% of your work - you'll stay restricted to that forum, which will give you the name a NCLT lawyer, and while you'd be ordinarily charging a higher fee than your counterparts in the HC (the one you have is a chartered HC with a beautiful history), any HC lawyer can be called to do an "outstation" matter at the NCLT, and charge more than you, and who may even be junior to you. Practice primarily at the HC, and regularly appear at the NCLT. Not only would you get the name a Tribunal Lawyer, but also may suffer when your name goes for senior designation - the rules of which are changing - and you don't know whether you'll be able to make it - especiually because HC lawyers tend to look down upon the Tribunal lawyers

Hi! I’m a fourth-year student interested in Commercial Litigation (M&A). I’m looking for insights on partners at Tier-1 firms in Mumbai who have a strong practice — both professionally and in terms of reputation.

Would really appreciate genuine, informed responses only. Thanks in advance!

I don't recommend you for the same. Other than the big name firms, regardless of which city they are in (sorry, but Mumbai/Delhi would have more work) there is hardly any worthy corp work in a law firm. Further, you say you are keeping your options open - go for litigation, rather - there's no point in interning in firms other than getting a stipend. You'll only become money minded with this approach all the while not learning anything substantial other than checking checklists.

Very interesting that he agreed to speak to an openly pro-BJP website like Lawbeat. That girl Sanya Talwar is full-on right wing, if you see her social media handle.

Should we read anything into this? Or just GS trying to maintain cordial relations with both sides of the fence?

Recently, I heard several students have started to take up the job of drafting contracts as freelance lawyers, while still being in college. I am new to this field and unsure of how to begin in this area. So, can anyone please suggest how to start in this profession to earn a side income? I would truly appreciate it.

Do not know about the PPO scene, but since Aaron is now leading the TMT team at NDA, recommend working with him. He has a huge portfolio of repeat fintech clients and while you may find him scary to work with, he is a hardcore trainer. Anything learnt under him is seldom forgotten.

Surprised I never knew about this! The incident was covered in the BBC, Washington Post and New Statesman (UK). Most shocking of all, the same professor had the audacity to write an article criticising the girl and various "feminists" in the Left ecosystem came out criticising the girl for naming their friends in public for not following a legal procedure!!

https://x.com/shanteehee/status/1278935905894412289

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2017/11/breaking-savarna-feminism-rules-how-raya-sarkar-s-list-alleged-harassers

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41862615

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/meet-raya-sarkar-the-south-asian-student-who-made-a-list-of-predatory-academics/2018/03/02/1d7691e8-168d-11e8-930c-45838ad0d77a_video.html

https://www.dailyo.in/voices/sexual-harassment-academia-predators-facebook-list-jnu-delhi-university-rape-culture-20241

There's a reason why capital markets team left, projects and infrastructure partner left, IPR team left, disputes team left, budding partner designates left, real estate team left, CFO left, head secretary left, HR left, communication team left, IT head left, regulatory litigation partner left - all in 4 years

The advice is coherent and clearly defines the relevant ethical boundaries. If you disagree, please indicate the precise points of divergence so the discussion remains substantive. And yes—I used AI to ensure clarity and accuracy. The legitimacy of an argument rests on its reasoning, not the medium through which it is articulated.

Very difficult to find someone who is into both IDT/DT and NCLT. Both are domain specific areas + NCLT practice has no overlap with HC - very unlikely that you'll find someone running accross forums. Not even in Del and Bom. Maybe you can be someone who does it in the future. All the best!

I dont see what's unethical here. he is just conveying something that has happened in practice. its a bit desperate yes, but i wont call it shady. in T1s when a new law comes that impacts an ex client/potential client, the teams writes to the client to let them know of it. they can say its so the client is aware of the new development but is it not the exact same way of soliciting work? i mean a man gotta feed himself somehow. surviving in lit is not easy

Guys, literally. Come on. How on earth is this news worth broadcasting to the rest of the world!?

"University undertakes construction and refurbishment"

Even if you were a blind person, for example, who might need to be taught an alternative route by means of orientation and mobility (or what is called O&M), and, in the absence of that/prior to that being arranged, you were to be given a sighted guide (what some western universities call a "support worker") to manage the new pathway, this wouldn't seem to be very big news. Now if the uni were to say "Hey blind guy, fuck yourself; ain't no money, we can't support you in learning the new pathway you'd have to navigate due to OAB closure"... now that would be a big splash, and we'd need Kian getting involved.

First of all, before we address the allegations, we must acknowledge a couple of things.

1. Rohin is a formidable young human rights jurist and one of the leading queer voices among Gen Z. To those asking why he studied Bioethics at Harvard, please read up on Foucault’s theory on bio power. The intersectionality between this theory and jurisprudence is of the most important scholarly developments this century, especially on queer rights jurisprudence.

2. GNLU is a college where unfortunately 90% of students have opted for law firm careers and ended up doing nondescript jobs at CAM and SAM. If people have gone abroad for higher studies, it has mostly been as a stepping stone towards law firm careers. Being a GNLU alum, Rohin has pursued an unconventional, non-monetary career path. This has marked him out as perhaps the most well-known alum of GNLU and someone who can inspire present batches to look beyond law firms.

Now coming to the allegations, we have one person say he touched her inappropriately and Rohin’s statement suggesting that he never exercised power over her (I am assuming he means “power” in an all-encompassing Foucauldian sense, beyond the legal sense of a master-servant relationship). To gauge whether it is a serious case of SH or a friendship gone sour, we need eyewitnesses and others to corroborate the allegations. That has not happened. Instead, a lot of RW accounts, and people perhaps jealous of Rohin’s Ivy League background, are trolling him.

I am happy to stand with Raghavi, but I need some corroborating evidence or testimonials from others. It’s also notable that Rohin’s senior Indira Jaising has maintained her silence. Maybe because she thinks like a lawyer and does not undertake a trial by social media?

TLDR: Rohin basically denies and calls Raghavi a liar. Rohin also clarifies that he is a non-binary person. Raghavi says she is “sad and disgusted”. She insists there are other survivors but no one else has publicly come out yet.

So as of now it’s one person’s word against the other. Meanwhile, in left-liberal circles, Teesta Setalvad and Manu Sebastian (Managing Editor of Livelaw) have publicly tweeted in support of Raghavi. But Rohin’s mentors like Indira Jaising, Karuna Nundy and Menaka Guruswamy are silent as of now. One of his mentors Sanjoy Ghose has given a statement distancing himself from Rohin, but not directly commented on the allegations.

Thus, perhaps the matter should be kept in abeyance unless more people come out? Also, OpIndia’s attack against Rohin shows that the BJP and RW ecosystem have a vested interest in seeing Rohin punished, so we need to exercise caution.

Just giving a very objective view.

https://x.com/BhattRohin/status/1978020469379911824

https://x.com/Lawyer_Saheba/status/1978029274243141683

I want to do a PhD, but I have no idea about the topic. What should I choose ? The world is moving so fast that I feel any topic I choose will be irrelevant after 3-5 years, and post doctoral opportunities will change depending on what's in trend. Any idea for topics ? AI ? Cyber ? Climate ? Resources? Conflicts? War ? Water issues ? Pollution?

Who cares, honestly? You say you need tea. Go, make it on your own. You'll need tea leaves, some boiling water, and sugar and milk if you prefer so. Don't come here asking stupid and unncessary questions. He is a good boss. Fine. He is a bad boss. Fine. So what? Have you ever contributed to the law or the profession as much has 1% of what he has? Please stop asking such useless stuff.

Here is what you have written:
1. You graduated from a T1 NLU - you have passed out already.
2. The internships you did are useless and have no weight in your CV
3. Did nothing in college
4. Your parents want you to do a job now

Leave aside law, in any UG college course, a reasonable parent would expect their reasonable child would get a job (though I disagree with there being a 'job' in the legal profession) or have a career path which is set. The fact that your parents did not have that conversation before you graduated, and the fact that they are asking you now, after they saw you being sitting at home for so long, for so many months, means that you are spoiled - no one would have otherwise used the terms in the fashion you used - "fucked around" etc. You had and have an umbrella which protected you for so long.

You ask for advice - as to what you should do - whether join a firm, or sit and prepare for an stupid ass examination. On jobs, there is no job in aproffesion, and these law firm jobs are nothing but clerical work - something said out aloud here alot of times. Second, unless your parents have the contacts, how are you even gonna join a good law firm bro? People from poor colleges struggle to get internships even in the most shadiest of firms because of their college background, and you - a t1 nlu graduate wants to join a good law firm w/o having any experience? Not even a mid or a low tier would hire you. It may come off as harsh, but that's the truth. Second, on preparation for examinations, sir, what exams are you gonna prepare for? Without going on the merits of these useless lack of respect govt exams which people respect for no reason whatsoever, the way you call these exams stupid, and your history in college clearly shows that you won't end up studying - you'll "fuck around" again.

Clearly, there's no easy path out of this - even litigation cannot save you, or perhaps it could - because it is a great leveller and you working there might have a change of perspective, but its rather clear that a brat like you won't consider it. My advice will be to have your mentality changed - you need to change your outlook in life and get rid of this attitude - then only can you even succeed at whatever possible options you have.

OAB has fallen! Starting October 15, the iconic OAB is officially off-limits through its main entrance. Administration has ordered a indefinite complete closure, citing “ongoing work.” Students and faculty will now be rerouted through a narrow side entry between Classrooms 101 and 102, as NLSIU transforms its academic heart into a construction labyrinth.

hey man if someone doesnt have time to teach you theyre not obligated to. theyre there to do a job, make the firm money. if you want to be taught you need to show the initiative and curiosity and openness, and yeah you might have to get rejected a few times until you find someone willing to teach you. welcome to the real world.

im literally an atheist leftist you ▮▮▮. I just think my fellow travellers on the left wouldnt be lolling at the CJIs comments if he made similarly derisive comments about the islamic faith. they would be calling it an attack on secularism which it would be. you dont need to lose your principles to defeat the other side. having some integrity might do it though.

Lol if you don’t post reasons this person gave - why post the comment at all?

You are on the wrong side of history you know. You’re a mean little authoritarian who has no real power in the real world and no real impact and so you’re trying to run your tyrant over this small corner of internet.

Ha, ha........A Harvard professor researching on honesty and ethics, fired for falsifying data.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/may/27/harvard-professor-on-leave-falsified-ethics-data

So, nothing new. The rule still applies. If someone says "trust me" during a conversation, you know that he/she is not to be trusted at any cost.