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Day Zero 2019: Jindal Sonepat places 23 students, CAM picks up most with Trilegal, AZB, Luthra

JGLS places 23 of its 2019 batch at top firmsJGLS places 23 of its 2019 batch at top firms

JGLS Sonepat has concluded its so-called Day Zero interviews, which were staggered between April and concluded in early May, resulting in a total of 23 accepted jobs for students graduating in 2019.

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas (CAM) was the largest recruiter, with 8 total job offers accepted, followed by Trilegal with 4 jobs, and each of AZB & Partners and Luthra & Luthra with 3 jobs, according to figures shared by the placement cell with us.

In addition Economic Laws Practice (ELP) picked up 2, Argus Partners 1 and P&A Associates 2 students via a pre-placement offer (PPO).

Separately from those figures, two additional students picked up assessment internships at ELP, while two have accepted US JDs at Cornell University.

JGLS assistant dean of careers office, Prof Anuranjan Sethi, commented in a press release: “We are focused on deepening & widening our recruiter base across various segments of legal industry to shape students’ imaginations and catering to their constantly evolving career aspirations of our students.”

JGLS dean and Jindal Global University vice chancellor added: “We expect several other domestic and international law firms to hire from our future graduating batches as several law firms have signed MoUs with our university for offering internships to our students.

“JGLS prides itself for facilitating a diversified range of professional opportunities to its graduates. These opportunities are not limited to corporate law firms, but also include in-house counsel positions at corporations and business enterprises, consultancy firms, investment banks, think tanks, research institutions, non-governmental organizations, intergovernmental organizations, government agencies, litigation practices at lawyers’ chambers and judicial clerkships with judges of the High Courts and the Supreme Court of India. Internships have become the most preferred route for hiring law students by Indian and international law firms, and we will continue to focus on expanding this network.”

The total batch size for the 2019 batch is around 300.

2018 recruitments still ongoing

It is understood that final recruitments for the 2018 batch are still ongoing, but according to JGLS’ press release, jobs this year have come from law firms such as CAM, Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas (SAM), AZB, Nishith Desai Associates, ELP, Trilegal, Khaitan & Co., J Sagar Associates, Lakshmikumaran & Sridharan, Karanjawala & Co and others,

According to JGLS, “over 16 new corporate recruiters have been added to JGLS’ recruiter list this year so far which include Aquilaw, ARA Law, Bharucha & Partners, Godha Law Chambers, Jurisperitus Law, Law Rato, Lawyers at Work, Mundkur Law Partners, Prasoon Legal, Samvad Partners, Singh & Singh Associates, Star India, Tatva Legal, Thomson Reuters”, and “organizations including Volkswagen, I-PAC and Ruia Group are currently conducting their recruitment process for the graduating batch while several others are currently in the pipeline”.

For the 2018 batch, English law firm Herbert Smith Freehills has offered one training contract to a JGLS graduate.

JGLS 2019 Day Zero figures

Total Of which PPOs
Argus Partners 1
AZB 3
CAM 8 2
ELP 2
Luthra & Luthra 3
P&A Associates 2 2
Trilegal 4
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Like +21 Object -0 Whoa 04 May 18, 15:25  interesting  top rated
Isnt it demeaning to call it "so-called" Day Zero?

Maybe they are rich kids who lack the so-called aptitude advantage of CLATites filling up the NLUs but they also have a right to recruitment and do their thing.

Even 23 jobs is a big deal. Per batch its not much but its 23 jobs away from the big NLUs. Without JGLS these would have gone to NALSAR, NUJS, NLUD, GNLU for sure.

Way to go JGLS!
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Like +7 Object -24 kianganz 04 May 18, 15:57  controversial
Lol you guys. It's so-called because day zero is an invented concept, and is usually not on a single day either, zero or otherwise.

No offense intended :)
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Like +8 Object -0 JGU STUDENT 05 May 18, 13:39  interesting
sure,love how you felt the need to highlight it on a post related to a private law school and not an NLU!
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Like +7 Object -2 kianganz 05 May 18, 13:47 LI subscriber  interesting
Hey, don't be so prickly because some NLU kids are being unreasonably elitist... There are 2 meanings to so-called, and we are not so unsubtle as to take digs at day zero performance in such an unsophisticated manner... :)

The reason, if any, that we used so called here is because there's literally nothing 'day' about a period of several days...
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Like +5 Object -1 NLU Kid 04 May 18, 15:35
"So called Day - Zero". Cute.
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Like +12 Object -7 Noojie 04 May 18, 17:15  interesting  controversial
Good to see recruitment picking up at JGLS. I don't believe in the dog-eat-dog rivalry displayed among universities on recruitment posts. This reads to me as the start of bright future careers for 23 people whom I'm sure we would come to work alongside pretty soon. The more, the merrier. :) Good job done by the JGLS RPC too.
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Like +13 Object -7 Skeptic 04 May 18, 19:19  interesting  controversial
Very misleading. Their batch size is humongous. The vast majority do not get good jobs, only the creamy layer does. Also, some of the jobs are through connections, either from the university or students themselves. Thus, not a true measure of talent.

Overall, JGLS has been a big disappointment. It's nearly 10 years old and has excellent faculty and infrastructure. If any other law school had these advantages, they would have fared 10 times better than JGLS. And if the top NLUs had these facilities, the sky would have been the limit. It's a real pity that some very good faculty members are being wasted at JGLS. They want to teach at NLUs, but cannot because of dictator VCs. At JGLS, the students are ill-behaved and least interested in studies.
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Like +13 Object -1 Realist 04 May 18, 19:38  interesting  top rated
The facilities at JGLS are made possible because of the extraordinary fees and the latter will always keep a bulk of the promising students away. Cannot have it both ways, I'm afraid, unless government steps in and provides huge funding for the NLUs. Also, it's not probably fair to these students to discredit their achievements by citing connections. Even NLU students have plenty of connections and I'm sure some use those too, as is only pragmatic that they should. The alumni at NLUs play a substantial role in the recruitment process too. And JGLS admin is by no means less 'dictatorial' than NLU people, it's just that being a private institution, they are also result-oriented. The teachers who join there go for money mostly, so let's not presume they are the poor victims with nowhere else left to go. They know very well about the student quality, if they wish to sacrifice job satisfaction at the altar of financial interest, that's their call.
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Like +6 Object -5 Ki Banu 05 May 18, 03:27  controversial
You sound like a boring old aunty (no sexisim intended).

Grow up. Just cause people have the resources to go to a Jindal doesnt make them any better or worse than the national law schools bunch.

Fact is , irrespective of our assumptions. These kids made it.

As for your assertions on wanting study or not.

Grow up!!!The study of law and practice of law are different animals.

As long as a kid is ready to be diligent and work hard when he or she gets recruited.

Nothing else matters.

P.s. just like it's unacceptable to pick on the poor, it's wrong to pick on the comparatively better off.
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Like +5 Object -2 Roshan90 05 May 18, 08:25
Irony of the Indian legal education scene. Schools with money and teaching/research talent dont have quality students (in general). Schools with decent students (in general) dont have money and teaching/research talent. Not sure there is an easy solution to this. Nationalising NLUs isnt necessarily the solution many are making it out to be. There are plenty of central universities out there that arent performing too well. But yes, it can certainly improve the funding situation.

Oh and all those in-house experts on UGC rules about appointments - nalsar has advertised for faculty. read up on what it takes to be a professor. it may help you update your "expertise".
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Like +2 Object -1 UGC 05 May 18, 12:09
@Roshan90: NALSAR's ad is pretty standard, isn't it? I think there have always been ways to waive the more onerous requirements if one comes across good talent. The only issue is that the person concerned has to have proven and established record. Now, this on the one hand can bring very good people in without the red tape entanglement. At the same time, if you see Prof. M. P. Singh's tenure as NUJS VC, he couldn't have been really said to abide by this to the letter either, because he also recruited talented young people, who he was sure would go on to make a name for themselves in the days to come, but may not have done so yet. It's about identifying potential early, because let's face it, once a person has already made a name for himself/herself, it may be difficult to actually get them to an NLU given lower pay, less than ideal working conditions etc. That's why Prof. Singh used to pick them early, including Shamnad, Prabhash, Pritam etc. (Sudhir already had made quite a name for himself by the time he came to NUJS). I agree that this sort of practice does leave room for nepotism, but when it works, it works great! That's why the ECs of the NLUs need to keep a close look at such practices and allow them when they believe the person is a good asset for the institution.
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Like +1 Object -0 Roshan90 05 May 18, 14:10
Indeed. Its a very standard ad. Thats what all ads for UGC-linked positions look like. I mentioned it because last month there was a lot of debate on the eligibility of some NUJS graduates to be appointed as professors based on their body of work. Clearly, people like VC MP Singh and his committee thought they were qualified. Like you said, the whole point of those offers was to give people something that would entice them to join Indian law schools instead of foreign ones when they are young.
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Like +8 Object -20 Guest 04 May 18, 19:32  controversial
Simple question. In the USA, if Lawrence Lessig and Richard Posner were teaching students with the lowest SAT scores and lowest ability to work hard (Set 1), and if a chimpanzee from the zoo was teaching students with the highest SAT score and highest ability to work hard, (Set 2), which set of students would be more successful?

If you think Set 1, upvote this comment.

If you think Set 2, downvote this comment.
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Like +15 Object -3 Guest 04 May 18, 19:53  interesting  top rated
Sorry, I meant:

If you think Set 2, upvote this comment.

If you think Set 1, downvote this comment. :p
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Like +2 Object -2 Sarcasm 04 May 18, 19:53
The basis of creating set 1 and set 2 is something called CLAT, the most "appropriate" way of testing potential candidates.

Amazing to see how obtuse your observations are.
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Like +5 Object -1 Chimpu 04 May 18, 20:04
@Sarcasm: Didn't you get it? Guest is the chimp in question. ;)
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Like +2 Object -3 harimba 05 May 18, 13:26
you're a piece of shit to assume that students with lowest lsat score and ability to work hard are all that there is to jgu.
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Like +11 Object -8 JGU STUDENT 05 May 18, 13:34  controversial
Hello,
thanks all for your overconfident, critical and of course useless comments. we are so pleased to have received them, for your validation is all we live for, we low LSAT scoring students who do not have the ability to work hard. your words mean the world to us. i promise.
you see our "so-called" placements as you put it, are none of your business, only we know how hard some of us work, to stand up by ourselves and for gods sake make you realise that just because we can afford the luxury you cant does not make us any less than your stinky a**.
lastly, yes I'm rich. rich as fuck and i got a job offer despite that, in the same law firm as you did and i will have the same start as you will despite my comfortable JGU life. so suck it up I suggest and get a life and stop obsessing and being jealous of us. look beyond your snooty NLU attitude and learn to digest the fact that we if not better are at the same level as you, even if we did not do well for one damn exam on one damn day.

have a good life xo
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Like +14 Object -4 kianganz 05 May 18, 13:57 LI subscriber  interesting
I would tend to agree with that assessment. Saying all JGLU kids are lazy or unintelligent is ridiculous, just like it'd be ridiculous to say that all NLU kids are geniuses (while topping the CLAT certainly is evidence that there are a few gifted individuals at NLUs, and potentially even a few genius types, the average CLAT topper has taken lots of coaching).

Even more critically, it's ridiculous to hear CLAT toppers trolling Jgls students for being rich, which in the Indian context is a bit like a millionaire complaining that a billionaire is over-privileged. Most NLU students tend to come from disproportionate well-off backgrounds, which IDIA has long pointed out and been trying to address for instance. NLUs are already unaffordable for the average Indian family... JGLS just even more so.

Finally, the fact that at least 23 students from JGLS have been hired by pretty selective top law firms should speak for itself, since none of them are running charities.

Finally finally, as unfair as it is, riches and privilege also buys you a better education throughout your life, better English skills and better writing skills, which means that JGLS (and also many NLU) grad have a massive advantage when it comes to being recruited by law firms already.
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Like +9 Object -1 ElCid 06 May 18, 17:16  interesting
These law firms need people who can speak in english. For the first two-three years, you are nothing but a glorified clerk. If you think otherwise, high time you wake up.

I come from one such place. Fancy M&A team. Right at the top of 9/10 deal rankings - all I did during my time there was organize documents and proof read. I can vomit fema20 but if you ask me to do something, I will cry.

Entitled pricks are indeed best suited. How many law school kids do they recruit who don't speak fluent English? ZERO. Even if you are the best law student, if your english is even slightly broken, sorry -you are not the right candidate
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Like +5 Object -0 Editor007 06 May 18, 18:27  interesting
And still so much of the opinions provided by these firms contain such a plethora of mistakes!
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Like +12 Object -4 Kal ho na ho 04 May 18, 19:46  interesting
Lol. Biased Kian will report that only GNLU has a batch of 160 even when it has massive recruitments but will write nothing about the HUMUNGOUS batch size of Jindal which is double that of GNLU

You are no better than Republic and Times Now, Kian.

No go ahead and call me a troll just because I criticised you.
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Like +10 Object -1 Bazigar 04 May 18, 20:06  interesting
Err...hasn't Kian clearly mentioned that the batch size is 300? I mean, I don't really know if it's even larger than that, but 300 is pretty much more than top 2-3 NLUs combined, so I guess the message is pretty clear anyway!
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Like +17 Object -7 kianganz 05 May 18, 00:43  interesting  controversial
It's also worth noting that Jgls, unlike GNLU, actually is really transparent about their placements... They sent us a full list of names of who got placed where for Day Zero.

Unlike gnlu, which does not share anything except for a greatest hits of recruitments, which is pretty much pointless.

Yes, it's a big batch, but at least they're not trying to fudge things...

Also, since we're talking public money, NLUs do deserve more scrutiny than private institutions, most of which don't even disclose any recruitment figures...
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Like +7 Object -2 Kal ho na ho 05 May 18, 15:07  interesting
of course you won't publish my comment, North Korean
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Like +3 Object -2 JGLS student2 06 May 18, 17:16
Also, out of the 300, only 100 applied to sit for zero day! Which is the same as the batch size of any NLU. Please keep that in mind as well
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Like +6 Object -2 GNLU23 07 May 18, 12:16
It is amusing how legally India reckons that GNLU is obligated to provide them with their recruitment statistics. And as far as GNLU being a public institution is concerned, it is answerable to only government and not to a condescending private website reporting distorted events and doesn't leave any opportunity to discredit it.
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Like +4 Object -3 Who are you? 07 May 18, 13:30
Kian,

(1) You need to retrospect why GNLU gives information to others and not to you.

(2) Still you (or the entire world) get to know the recruitment statistics (almost correct or near to correct). Eg. you have published this year's NUJS data inspite of they (NUJS) haven't officially declared.

(3) It is the institute's discretion to reveal the placement statistics. Sometimes the institutes do not want the rest of world know who their recruiters are? By revealing the data, they showcase the potential recruiters list to the world, so now the other institutes know the sure-shot recruiters and start targeting the same recruiters. By not revealing the data the institutes reduce their competition, which may be a strategical move.

(4) Last but not the least: Now the time has come when (few) NLUs do not need your publicity or show-off by displaying their good placement performance on such forums. Some of the NLUs started refraining themselves from giving data to you and NUJS & GNLU are the example. The reason behind may be that NUJS's & GNLU's placement are on the roll (better than at least NALSAR, NLUJ, NLUD, NLIU)* and do not consider you worthy enough to showcase their performance on LI.

I think you will take this comment in a good spirit.

Period.
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Like +1 Object -1 Guest 07 May 18, 14:35
Bar & Bench troll alert!
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Like +8 Object -4 Troll Tax 07 May 18, 21:19
If only a paragraph division and numbering made hogwash seem logical!
1. If you don't even know the difference between retrospect and introspect, you should, by now. I am not elitist enough to consider English to be the only metric of intelligence, but if you are using a word, use it properly. From a substantive point, it's not Kian's job to do any such introspection. On the other hand, countless people on behalf of GNLU themselves visit here and protest whenever LI runs any story. Media will run stories, so institutions should ensure that they are transparent enough regarding data. If not, people can still point out mistakes, but cannot blame LI for running the story.
2. I don't even know what this was about. Of course the data will be out one way or another. Also, if it's distorted owing to hearsay, then you can't blame the publisher! It's GNLU people who cry themselves hoarse why Kian isn't publishing proper data.
3. I couldn't stop laughing at this! Barring a couple of PSUs owing to the Gujarat connection, who else are these super-secret and special recruiters who only recruit from GNLU and divulging their names would lead to them getting 'poached' by other law schools? Pull the other one, pal, it's got bells on!
4. NUJS has nothing against LI. Its policy is not to publish data before recruitment season is over. When it does provide data, it gives it to LI too along with other media and whoever asks for it. It also does not give out 'highlights of recruitment', but the full facts and figures. You want to say GNLU doesn't consider LI to be 'worthy enough' (whatever that means, given students from there still flock the comments section here), do it, but don't try to drag other institutions along with you in your misdirected crusade.
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Like +2 Object -0 Ummm what? 08 May 18, 11:59
Just because GNLU does not share their recruitment details, you assumed that they are trying to "fudge things"?
That is SUPERBLY IRRESPONSIBLE of you.
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Like +2 Object -2 kianganz 08 May 18, 12:02 LI subscriber
In 2014 they released a press release showing off only the 'top' 19 job offers and got lots of positive media attention in the national press:

www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/gnlu-keeps-placement-statistics-secret-20140924-5087

That sounds rather like an attempt to spin and/or fudge things...
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Like +1 Object -2 Kal ho Na ho 08 May 18, 14:19
Like what Jindal is doing? Highest Day Zero among all law schools? Lol. Kian Ganzsami receives funding from Jindal. Any negative news would risk them not advertising with you again.

Okay, I'm legit trolling now.
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Like +1 Object -2 Emoji 08 May 18, 15:00
Did you just manage to compare GNLU with JGLS (a private university that operates on profit-making principles at the end of the day and has scant regard for propriety)? I hope not, I have greater regard for GNLU as an institution, regardless of the shenanigans of its director. And it should aspire to better actions, not worse ones.
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Like +6 Object -2 ambani school 04 May 18, 21:10
something about institutes names after business people is a put off
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Like +11 Object -2 Meme 04 May 18, 21:47  interesting
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Like +1 Object -2 Jgu student 05 May 18, 15:22
Dude our placements went over, so STFU
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Like +21 Object -0 Insider 05 May 18, 11:04  interesting  top rated
One of the problems with Jindal is that it is filled with scholars who can teach every topic under the sun except those desired by law firms. Jindal has 3 Vice Deans who are senior scholars, but NONE holds a law degree and can be described as a legal scholar. For some really weird reason, the Vice Chancellor believes in hiring "intellectual" and "critical" scholars in droves at Associate and Professor levels with huge salaries. Jindal loves to organise pretentious "intellectual" seminars on human rights, LGBT, critical theory, comparative constitutionalism etc. But when it comes to commercially and practically relevant subjects, Jindal mostly hires junior faculty at low pay and neglects these subjects. Thus, the best talent either does not join, or quits after a short period, or goes on long leave and pursues other projects.

I am not demeaning any of our professors, who are no doubt learned. But some of the professors are more suited to teach humanities and social sciences than law. The law school needs to teach actual LAW.
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Like +4 Object -10 Darkseid 05 May 18, 11:46
That's an interesting take on matters, assuming it's factually accurate. But the NLU alumni working there should be more versed with such subjects, no? Many of them have worked with law firms for quite some time and some, like Abhirup Bose for competition law, is already well-regarded in their respective fields. What about them?
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Like +16 Object -2 Insider 05 May 18, 13:03  interesting  top rated
I don't rate Prof Bose that highly, but to each his/her own. My point is that very senior and qualified people, with decades of experience, are teaching "soft law" or critical theory subjects. They would be a better fit outside law schools, like JNU . Furthermore, looking at the top level, the VC is a human rights scholar, there are 3 Vice Deans of whom none is a lawyer and none teaches law, and most senior professors/visiting professors specialise in soft law. Another important point is that soft law people generally do not have contacts in the corporate world, so are not useful for placements.

You may criticise me for being "neo liberal" ,"right wing", "corporate" etc, but the fact is that 80% of law school students in India aspire for corporate/commercial jobs (or at least commercially relevant domains, like IP, trade, energy, maritime etc).
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Like +3 Object -0 Darkseid 05 May 18, 14:21
No such criticism from me, I happen to agree with that assessment. I was just slightly surprised to know about the top-heavy 'soft-law' scenario down there. I have absolutely nothing against JGLS students, by the way. The few I have met with, in course of moots and internships, appeared to me to be on equal platforms as any NLU kid. The sad truth is that people having corporate and financial aptitude still prefer by an overwhelming majority to stay out of academia and cannot be swayed by even higher salary (since the latter can scarcely match their earnings from the industry). Till we take the US route and allow practitioners to teach and teachers to practise, that is highly unlikely to change. By my own experience, the number of capable financial law teachers I have come across in Indian law schools will barely make it to double digits, if that.
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Like +13 Object -8 Liteseid 05 May 18, 19:15  interesting  controversial
Absolutely. The no. of capable financial law teachers across NLUs is something like this. NLSIU-1, NALSAR-1(or 2), NLUD-2, NUJS-0, NLUJ-1 and GNLU-0.
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Like +12 Object -4 NUJS 05 May 18, 20:20  interesting
@Liteseid: Dunno about the rest of the law schools, but we have had a pretty decent teacher for Company Law and Banking, man. Way better than most of the others we have here and an alumni too. But yes, we (and I guess most of the other NLUs too) can certainly do with more, since there are scores of related subjects that can and should be taught, yet is not given the lack of qualified people.
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Like +11 Object -10 Current 06 May 18, 13:11  controversial
We dont have to keep this a secret who this teacher is. She teaches International Finance and I dont think any Indian NLU has a course like this. Its because of people like Ruchika mam that our placements were a record this year. Firms want to hire law students who are great with financial laws.
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Like +7 Object -8 NUJS 06 May 18, 18:23  controversial
Fairly certain you were being sarcastic. But I wasn't referring to her to begin with. Never took her courses anyway, so can't really say.
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Like +10 Object -10 Current 06 May 18, 20:31  controversial
Chill bro. Nobody is being sarcastic. Am fairly certain that except NUJS no other law school has International Finance as an optional course. Employers know this and want students with international exposure. They also get confident when international finance faculty are here. This was asked during the interviews and the recruiting guys who came down were impressed to see this course. I took mam's 3 courses and its much better than our soft courses like Political Science or Legal History.
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Like +12 Object -0 AC?DC?Tussi? 06 May 18, 22:35  interesting  top rated
Bhai, tera grading ho chuka hai! Abhi brown nosing bandh bhi kar!
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Like +9 Object -8 Incredulous 07 May 18, 22:29  controversial
Kian, not sure why you didn't publish my earlier comment. Both the points I mentioned are facts and matters of record, as any student of NUJS having opted for that course (and quite a few others) can attest to. Now, I didn't bring the name of the teacher up, a previous commentator did. And if you allow completely baseless (and unfounded, since no recruiter ever did what that commentator claimed, like looking at course outline etc.) praises that are actually misleading, then you should also allow others to counter it! Given the anon policy here, even the concerned teacher could have posted those comments herself (I am not saying she did), after all!
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Like +10 Object -12 Current 08 May 18, 00:22  controversial
This looks like sour grapes by those who opted for the bad courses and got low CGPA. Get your facts straight about Ruchika mam:-

1. Mam is very well connected to the law firms and the senior councils and worked tirelessly to get them to come to NUJS for recruitment. She herself got 12-13 job offers for the students from the top firms.

2. Mam supported the #BhatOut campaign from beginning and was always on the side of students unlike the selfish teachers like BD sir, TRC mam, AG mam, who only wanted to use Bhat for their own vested interest. Its a well known fact that all these three were disciplined by Bhat for taking insufficient classes, giving marks to favourites, etc.

3. Mam was targeted by certain students who failed to prepare for presentation and wanted more time. They tried to complain but Anirban sir luckily stopped this nonsense.

4. Mam's International Finance course is the most high scoring optional course. Nobody else is qualified to teach International law subjects so we should be grateful she is spending her valuable time at NUJS.

Students will always protect Mam from such rumoyrs.
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Like +12 Object -7 Incredulous 08 May 18, 08:18  interesting  controversial
Hello, Ma'am! Nice to see you here. Hopefully since you have this much time on your hand, the answer-scripts have all been evaluated.
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Like +12 Object -2 Calculator 05 May 18, 20:27  interesting
Everybody these days appears to generate stats out of thin air and almost always they lack basis. Do you even know the names of the teachers who teach financial laws in all these places, man? I bet you don't, even if you might have once. And even if you did, you certainly could not have attended all their classes, so what makes you an expert on their capability? Random garbage generator, more like.
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Like +8 Object -0 Darkseid 05 May 18, 20:38  interesting
I do not happen to agree with you regarding the break up, especially the part about NUJS having no capable teacher in those disciplines. I know at least two people down there who are pretty good in those fields, both alumni.
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Like +0 Object -0 Kal ho Na ho 06 May 18, 09:50
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Like +3 Object -5 Shameful 05 May 18, 13:30
JGLS are liars spreading fake news. On Google news I saw two reputed media outlets (links below) reporting: "JGLS has received 23 "Day Zero" offers, the highest for any law school in India this year, the university has said.

What is the meaning of this??? I request LI to please give a clarification about this. This is an utter lie that will mislead parents and aspirants during CLAT season, and maybe some recruiters too. It's possible that other media outlets may report this too. THIS IS SHAMEFUL. It is very unfair to NLU students who have worked hard without the pampering of faculty and admin like JGLS, and without any wealthy parents or contacts. While the tier 1 NLUs may not be too concerned, some of the newer NLUs are direct competitors of JGLS. Please give a clarification LI.

www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2018/may/05/jindal-global-law-school-students-get-highest-day-zero-placement-offers-1810559.html

www.thequint.com/hotwire-text/jindal-law-school-students-get-highest-day-zero-offers
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Like +6 Object -1 kianganz 05 May 18, 14:04 LI subscriber  interesting
It appears that the IANS wire created both of those pieces of copy.

Nowhere in the press release we received (which appears to be the same one that IANS has quoted from liberally), did JGU claim that its Day Zero placements were best, so I'm not sure where they got that from.

It could be a plain journalistic error or misunderstanding by IANS, I'm not sure...
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Like +2 Object -0 Darkseid 05 May 18, 14:24
Could it be they meant highest for JGLS till date (or highest among private universities) and our erudite media representatives arrived at somewhat different conclusion altogether? Because despite JGLS' aggressive publicity campaign, I doubt they would go as far as to offer such obviously false statements.
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Like +3 Object -3 Satya ki Khoj 05 May 18, 16:46
KIAN:

"It could be a plain journalistic error or misunderstanding by IANS, I'm not sure."

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So,the third possibility didn't even strike Kian..

That JGLS passed on false information to the mainstream media and news agencies, whose journalists anyway are not truth-seekers living and dying for the truth.

They are low-paid employees working to earn a livelihood like anyone else.

And JGLS is a business, like any other business, with an honourable, unemotional motive - profit.
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Like +0 Object -2 Big NLU Student 05 May 18, 14:49
Kian you haven't published my comment
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 06 May 18, 10:37
Now a leading business news channel is reporting hat news as follows: Placement season: This private law university students get highest ''Day Zero'' offers


Then the story is about Jindal.

Then the last para says: National Law School of India University-Bangalore, National Law University-New Delhi, Rajiv Gandhi School of Intellectual Property Law, Indian Institute of Technology-Kharagpur, NALSAR University of Law- Hyderabad, National Law University- Jodhpur, and WB National University of Juridical Sciences in Kolkata are some of the reputed law schools in India.
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Like +5 Object -6 Guest 08 May 18, 16:28  controversial
It's sad to see so much hate against Jindal. As an alum, I can honestly say that we had excellent professors with good practical and academic experience --- Prof Eirikson, Prof Nemika, Prof Shiv, Prof Arpan, Prof James, Prof Bindal, Prof Manasi, Prof Rehan, Prof Rohini etc etc. In fact, some of these people are graduates of the same universities whose students are attacking Jindal and claiming to be superior.

I agree that some faculty members are not good and some of the good profs have left, but overall the faculty is still very good. As for the fee, it's true that it is very high. But while this can be used to criticise the admin it cannot be used to compare Jindal with low-quality law schools and say that the students are dull or faculty are overrated. Please be objective in your criticism. Students from Jindal have won prestigious moots and secured good placements on merit without contacts. Instead of always criticising Jindal NLUs should try and borrow some of the good things about Jindal. Remember that good faculty at top NLUs have been hounded out by VCs like Rao, Veer Singh and Ishwar Bhat. At some NLUs, it is a matter of record that funds for infrastructure were misused. What do you have to say about that?
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Like +5 Object -5 Whistleblower 08 May 18, 17:37  controversial
Just one thing. Why are you lying now about your placement figures, as is apparent from the links mentioned above? Instead of trying to defend when your institution does something irregular or illegal, why not actually question it and get to improve things a bit? If all those names you mentioned didn't manage to teach you that, they have failed in their task as teachers, as have you in your responsibility as student.
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Like +3 Object -4 An Observer 09 May 18, 00:11
Right up there in the comments, Kian has clarified that the original report from JGLS didn't claim to have the "highest" day zero placements, and the articles that do mention so have been written by IANS, which is most likely a journalistic error or miscommunication (could have meant 'highest' in JGLS history or 'highest' in private unis). And just so you know, the NLUs aren't innocent in this regard either. A lot of the institutes like GNLU misrepresent figures by leaving out the poor performing students and only reporting the 'greatest hits' (again, as Kian mentioned above).

The amount of hate JGLS gets from certain NLU-ites in general is seriously ridiculous. It shows deep immaturity or insecurity, or maybe both. The achievements of the students at JGLS, be it publications or famous international mooting competitions, are as good as an NLU. So those of you who engage in such BS, STOP. Grow up.
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Like +4 Object -2 Whistleblower 09 May 18, 10:45
And has JGLS done anything to clarify the mistake? No. Especially when it does have such dedicated PR groups who go all around the country and proclaim the eminence of the institution at the drop of a hat? Sorry, but that's really not going to cut it. Your institution laps up publicity, even if obtained via misrepresentation.
Are you trying to seriously engage in 'whataboutery' to take the attention away from your shortcomings? Mark of a politician in making, not a lawyer. If GNLU does that, it is guilty. If you do that, you are. I'm from neither place, so I can call both out with impunity. And GNLU does not have a dedicated PR department like you do, which makes your conduct far more reproachable.
I have nothing against JGLS students or their achievements. You are the one bringing that up from what appears to be inferiority complex, which requires one to keep saying how good they are compared to everybody else. If you cannot accept criticism of your institution when it is clearly at fault and take it as a personal attack on yourself, then that's your shortcoming, nobody else's.
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Like +2 Object -2 An Observer 09 May 18, 15:36
1. I'm NOT from JGLS. I'm an aspiring law student about to give CLAT in a few days, who dropped by here to learn more about law schools and placements. So your assumption that my comment was driven by some sort of "inferiority complex" makes no sense. I belong to no law school yet, and so I'm as neutral as anyone can be here.

2. The second paragraph of my comment wasn't addressed to you, it was a comment about the what I've observed here in general - the troll-like behavior against JGLS and certain other non-NLUs. The reason I brought the students' achievements up was to address those people here who seem to be fixated on the idea that no non-NLU can be a great institute.

I agree it'd have been better if JGLS came out and cleared up the miscommunication. My comment was to put forth facts I thought you may not know. You assuming me to be from JGLS and taking that hostile tone/ making personal attacks only makes you look like another elitist.
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Like +6 Object -3 Whistleblower 09 May 18, 16:17
Nice try, pal. If you are that much of an outsider, how do you know that JGLS students' publications rival that of other NLU students? Don't tell me you are already devouring law journals across the world at the tender age of 17? If you are a clat aspirant, then you should go and study now instead of spending time here writing page-long comments, with your exams 4 days to go. And elitist etc. are your imagination. I call spades by their rightful names, whether its an NLU or a private university or a 'clat aspirant' who is in the wrong. And you did not mention any facts other than what you read here in earlier comments, so assuming other commentators did not read it is presumptuous and idiotic on your part. You as much as said that you knew JGLS did wrong, but you would still prefer to argue the point. Focus a bit on your reasoning skills before clat.
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Like +1 Object -1 Guest 12 May 18, 02:51
Shameless liars JGLS are now displaying the fake news on their website, during CLAT season. Why is LI silent regarding this fraud??

jgls.edu.in/news/jindal-law-school-students-get-highest-day-zero-offers-02h-23m-ago
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Like +2 Object -0 Whistleblower 12 May 18, 11:42
Here, and people in this post had been saying it might have been a misunderstanding! By putting up such posts in their official website, JGLS has clearly proved that it supports the lie and will actively propagate the same. I would like to see commentators above who had been shouting themselves hoarse about how JGLS is the misunderstood innocent party, offer an apology here, alumni and student and 'clat aspirants' alike.
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Like +0 Object -0 Darkseid 12 May 18, 12:14
I withdraw the benefit of doubt I'd given earlier.
Kian, I know they are your advertisers and hence there is not a lot that you can say about this, but even you must admit this looks pretty bad.
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Like +2 Object -0 kianganz 12 May 18, 12:21
Agree, this looks atrocious... Called dean Raj Kumar after the comment came in and he said he wasn't aware but would investigate. If you want to be charitable, it's an honest mistake by some person in the office, alternatively, it's deliberate deception in not getting the mistake rectified in the first place, or in the most extreme scenario, the PR firm hired by them used some dark arts...
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Like +0 Object -0 Darkseid 12 May 18, 13:07
Any idea which PR firm they use, by the way? I'm a little curious. :P
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Like +0 Object -0 Guest 12 May 18, 17:56
Then why is this happening when the last date for LSAT registration is 9 May and when many CLAT test takers will be thinking about Jindal after CLAT??? Total fraud and unfair trade practice.
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Like +1 Object -0 Guest 12 May 18, 17:58
The fake news has now been removed. Thanks to Kian and those who pointed it out.
jgls.edu.in/news
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