The Common Law Admission Test (CLAT) 2019 are out and the first provisional allocation list has been released by the CLAT consortium on its website.
As every year since 2011, we have crunched the preferences of the All India Ranks (AIR) for each law school’s top 30 in the general list, and taken their average AIR rank to create the Super 30 Score.
Unlike cut-offs or topper ranks, the Super 30 much more authoritatively establishes candidates’ order of NLU preferences, without disadvantaging larger colleges.
Overall, this year’s order of preference shows that not everything is completely static in CLAT preferences outside: NLU Jodhpur, in particular, has taken the place of NLIU Bhopal, and NLU Odisha has overtaken RGNUL Patiala and Nuals Kochi this year.
The top three, unchanged
Vis-a-vis last year’s Super 30 analysis the top three are nearly completely unchanged, as showcased by the graph above, below and the full table.
If anything, NLSIU Bangalore has solidified its lead as the most preferred NLU: all 30 CLAT toppers had put down NLSIU as first choice this year, and only one topper in the top 54 All India ranks had chosen not to go to NLSIU (AIR 50 had put Nalsar above NLS in their preferences).
Nalsar Hyderabad sat very comfortably in second place in the rankings, and NUJS Kolkata settled into place of third preference (all three increased their Super 30 scores slightly).
NLIU drops in preference
But then it gets interesting. NLIU Bhopal and NLU Jodhpur were neck-to-neck last year (with NLIU marginally ahead) but this year NLU Jodhpur was decisively ahead of NLIU in terms of CLAT takers’ preferences.
NLU J’s Super 30 score rose from 242 to 191, while NLIU’s dropped from 223 to 245, and one candidate opted for Jodhpur over NUJS; in fact, the top seven candidates at NLU-J and NUJS are very close together in terms of their AIRs (though that gap gets bigger down the list).
GNLU Gandhinagar remained unchanged in 6th place, with its Super 30 rising from 373 to 321; two candidates picked GNLU, although they could have also made it to NLIU or NLU Jodhpur with their AIR.
HNLU Raipur also won back the place it had last year to MNLU Mumbai, with its Super 30 of 427 now slightly ahead of MNLU Mumbai.
Nevertheless, MNLU Mumbai continued performing almost unreasonably well in CLAT takers’ preferences, considering that besides its advantageous location, almost nothing is known about the college, and it has had very little to show the world over the past years. Indeed, anecdotally, reports have reached our ears that there should be serious question marks put next to MNLU Mumbai (maybe some current or former students can chime in about the current status of NLU Mumbai, in the comments).
RMLNLU Lucknow remained in ninth place.
However, NLU Odisha climbed two whole ranks to 10th, ahead of both RGNUL Patiala and Nuals Kochi.
CNLU Patna remained in 13th, while NUSRL Ranchi climbed one into the top 14.
The preference order of the other NLUs is not entirely clear
The order of preference of NLUs 15th to 21st, in preference, is slightly less clear, though the graph above makes clear that MNLU Nagpur is marginally ahead of DSNLU Visakhapatnam, which is ahead of NLUJA Assam and TNNLU Tiruchirappalli.
HPNLU Shimla is generally behind those in preference, though there is a strong contingent of seven candidates who picked Shimla over the other option (the picturesque location may help, or it may have been locals who wanted to stay at home).
MNLU Aurangabad, the third Maharashtra national law school was just ahead of Dharmashastra National Law University, Jabalpur in Madhya Pradehs (MP’s second NLU, which doesn’t seem to have done NLIU Bhopal any favours either).
Full Super 30 Data
| Law School | 2019 Rank | Y-o-Y change | 2018 Rank | 2019 Super 30 score | 2018 Super 30 score | 2019 Topper Rank | 2018 Topper Rank | 2017 Rank | 2017 Super 30 score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| NLSIU | 1 | = | 1 | 15 | 18 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 19 |
| Nalsar | 2 | = | 2 | 69 | 77 | 50 | 11 | 2 | 76 |
| NUJS | 3 | = | 3 | 135 | 155 | 82 | 43 | 3 | 144 |
| NLU Jodhpur | 4 | +1 | 5 | 191 | 242 | 76 | 129 | 5 | 236 |
| NLIU Bhopal | 5 | -1 | 4 | 245 | 223 | 148 | 44 | 4 | 229 |
| GNLU | 6 | = | 6 | 321 | 373 | 124 | 142 | 6 | 366 |
| HNLU | 7 | +1 | −8 | 427 | 499 | 329 | 401 | 7 | 487 |
| MNLU Mumbai | 8 | -1 | 7 | 434 | 490 | 338 | 246 | 10 | 698 |
| RMLNLU Lucknow | 9 | = | −9 | 484 | 533 | 342 | 671 | 8 | |
| NLU Odisha | 10 | +2 | 12= | 572 | 777 | 465 | 564 | 12 | 758 |
| RGNUL Patiala | 11 | -1 | −10 | 589 | 624 | 442 | 924 | 9 | |
| Nuals Kochi | 12 | -1 | 11= | 750 | 704 | 474 | 290 | 11 | 711 |
| CNLU Patna | 13 | = | 13= | 840 | 943 | 623 | 718 | 13 | 786 |
| NUSRL Ranchi | 14 | +1 | 15= | 919 | 1164 | 688 | 705 | 15 | 1015 |
| MNLU Nagpur | 15 | -1 | 14= | 968 | 1097 | 589 | 520 | 14 | 919 |
| DSNLU Visakhapatnam | 16 | = | 16= | 997 | 1190 | 830 | 223 | 16 | 1048 |
| NLUJA Assam | 17 | = | 17= | 1026 | 1332 | 968 | 1016 | 17 | 1085 |
| TNNLU Tiruchirappalli | 18 | = | 18= | 1075 | 1403 | 436 | 459 | 18 | 1135 |
| HPNLU Shimla | 19 | +1 | 1077 | 622 | |||||
| MNLU Aurangabad | 20 | -1 | 19= | 1093 | 1544 | 710 | 1254 | N/A | N/A |
| Dharmashastra National Law University, Jabalpur (MP) | 21 | +1 | 1120 | 577 |
Comments
1. NLUD will slowly crawl to #2, of not #1, because Delhi is the legal capital and there is no regionalism. The admin is good.
2. MNLU Mumbai will rise like NLUD, as Mumbai is the law firm capital. The state government is also giving MNLu a lot fo budgetary support, more than most NLUs COMBINED.
3. GNLU will rise as Gujarat is leading in development and PM Modi will ensure full support to GNLU.
4. NLSIU will continue to dominate, as Bengaluru will remain a good city (the Kumaraswamy govt is a blip and will get booted out soon). Furthermore, Sudhir Krishnaswamy as VC will further increase the status and prestige of NSLIU. If a 50% domicile quota is imposed, NLSIU may fall to #2, but it will still be a powerhouse. In any event, it is unlikely to happen as the alumni have opposed it.
5. NUJS will shift to tier 2 status as Mamata will bringing in populist domicile reservations/Bengali imposition and the NUJS amendment act seeks to bypass CLAT. Also, the new VC is not good.
6. NALSAR will go the NUJS way, possibly even do worse, if the 85% quota demand is implemented. But this is ultimately unlikely to happen as KC Rao is more sensible than Mamata, and the alumni have also opposed it. Thus, NALSAR will reman in the top 3, along with NLSIU and NLUD.
7. NLUO has very good administration an enthusiastic students. It will reach the same level as NLUJ and NLIU, possibly even overtake it.
Hence, this is my precision of how the future ranking will probably pan out:
Tier 1:
1. NLSIU
2. NLUD
3. NALSAR
4. MNLU
5. GNLU
Tier 2:
1. NUJS
2. NLUO
3. NLUJ
4. NLIU
Agree that MNLU is immensely overrated. That said for a 5-year course would recommend going to a top 3 NLU/NLU-D any day. Or JGLS if you can afford it. Training in critical thinking skills is not a priority for GLC.
http://files.edchemy.com/sites/clatconsortiumofnlu.ac.in/list1/UG-NationalLawSchoolofIndiaUniversityNLSIUBengaluru.pdf
People of "Bengaluru" continue to use both terms (Bengaluru/Bangalore) coterminously. Stop spamming us with your useless commets - a city is more than a name.
Raipur doesn't have THE AIIMS, it has AN AIIMS. Its IIM is at the bottom of the preference list, and with even the new IITs having little (if any) sheen, NITs really don't count for much.
That said, it is obvious that there is immense scope of growth in Chattisgarh, and the growth of the Indian economy will be coming from small towns. In that sense, it is an exciting place to be. I truly wish there were exchange programs that could allow students from other universities within India to experience a totally different culture.
1) NLSIU
2) NALSAR
3) NUJS
4) NLUJ
5) GNLU
6) RGNUL
7) NLIU
8) RMLNLU
It seems that law aspirants ranked:
- NLIU above GNLU
- HNLU, MNLU and NLUO above RGNUL and RMLNLU
- RMLNLU above RGNUL
https://www.nirfindia.org/2018/LAWRanking.html
Also, canny find out in general how many in the merit list are repeat takers?
So you have an authoritative source clearly saying NLUD faculty is the best.
Tanuj has also said: "Please do NOT join the lower ranked NLUs (anything after GNLU/HNLU). It’s better to join a good law college in Delhi or Mumbai (or even Bangalore and Pune) than study in the lower ranked NLUs."
https://www.lawctopus.com/not-join-lower-ranked-national-law-university-nlu-instead/
Thanks for nothing.
The quality of your PhD thesis means little - if anything, to an undergrad student who wishes to learn the fundamentals of a subject. An arcane peer-reviewed article is similarly meaningless to anyone except an academic/specialist in that particular subject.
I would also point you to a lovely little book called intellectual impostures, on the bilge that gets published if the author has the correct credentials (tenure, for example, or a big name brand), though naturally I do not imply that you are cast from that mould.
I understand the frustration that you face being painted with the same brush, but you can obviously appreciate why students hesitate to name names.
How well do you explain a subject? Do you motivate or inspire your students? Have you mentored anyone? How supportive are you of student efforts. These are the criteria that students will judge you on.
If you have encouraged/mentored/motivated a student, know that students respect you for it. Who are the good teachers and bad teachers are known to most students (sometimes across universities) via the student grapevine. No student wishes to embarrass any member of staff unnecessarily.
1. You also had the good sense to acknowledge that "I do not imply that you are cast from that mould." Most posts here don't. This thread has a few stating 'all' are shit/bad/your choice of word.
2. I beg to differ to your statement that I should "appreciate why students hesitate to name names." I can't.
2.1 Posts here are anonymous, and
2.2 Kian has given great leeway to the posters by allowing them to use 'alternate names' for faculty members, like a certain Mr P from Kolkata.
3. I also beg to differ on your claim that teachers are judged, especially here, on "how well [they] explain a subject... motivate or inspire [the] students etc."
3.1 There have been threads in the past where faculty contributions have been judged on the quality of publications on HeinOnline etc. Kindly don't shift the goalposts as it suits you (the student body generally).
3.2 Further, if they are being judged on classrooms skills, then pray how does Mr. Kalia know about the goings-on of every classroom in the country? The point that initially got me started.
4. Finally, you say "no student wishes to embarrass any member of staff unnecessarily." I claim that is what they end up doing vis-a-vis a large majority of us. Think of it in this manner, if I would request my students to read out the posts on this thread to my face in a class (irrespective of their general nature as they use the term 'all'), would it embarrass me? Them? I know the answer on the first is yes, I hope it is in the affirmative on the second as well. However, now extend it to them having to read it to my 3-year old. My 6-year old? My parents? My friends (most of all who are now partners in Teir-1 firms)?
Stop generalizing is all I request. Is it too much to ask for? If it is, then that isn't the ethic I taught some of you in class.
"The average faculty..." - guilt by association? Is that the standard law students are taught? It seems you were quite average in understanding the idea of justice.
Obscure college, everyone? Even those who didn't come from them? Even those who went to some of the best places abroad for their graduate studies?
Substandard publication, plagiarised PhD etc. Everyone?
Do some research and go after specifics. But given the substandard nature of term papers submitted by most of you over the years tells you all are too lazy to do that.
Name people, that is all I ask for. Stop with this 'all of them are shit' rhetoric. Not all of anybody are the same.
very low.
- Placements are much better (because student quality is better)
- Superior infra
- You will get a good peer group of motivated students. Symbi is just for masti.
- Symbi also has many admin problems, possibly more. Also, current RGNUL VC will anyway leave soon
- NLU brand
"Symbi is just for masti" - Do you even know how many partners are there from Symbiosis at each of the law firms where RGNUL students queue up to intern? What a stupid thing to say!
The idea is not to begin a laundry list of things our college has achieved in very little time but to start a meaningful and hopefully infromed conversation where the author would be open to discovering that the performance is not 'unreasonable' at all. I'd like to request the author to reply on this thread so we can take this forward. More than happy to be contacted personally and give a detailed account and or answer any questions that the author or any prospective students' may have.
Request to everyone at large: Please know that while experts are brilliant in their field and deserve every bit of the respect they recieve, they may not always be 'the' expert on everything.
"Unreasonably well" would be referring to the fact that in preferences it already outranks HNLU, which has a track record since 2003 (!) as well as RMLNLU. HNLU (and also RMLNLU) have lots of grads who are already successful in industry and working in the courts, some at quite senior levels. HNLU is not perfect, but MNLU is a completely unproven entity right now, based largely on location, and hopes and dreams, it seems, at least from the outside. It only started its first batches in 2015, which we had covered at the time: https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/nlu-mumbai-to-begin-classes-this-year-after-own-entrance-test-20150220-5628
What little we've heard, have been some reviews from students over the last two years ago that things were quite oversold and the reality at MNLU Mumbai did not match up to expectations.
For years it was operating on a shared campus from TISS and apparently, according to its website, more recently from "CETTM (Centre for Excellence in Telecom Training and Management) located in Hiranandani Gardens, Powai, Mumbai. This is one of the biggest telecom training centres in Asia".
The previous VC BB Panda (whom we had tried to contact half a dozen times over the last few years to update on progress at MNLU), had quietly left earlier this year ago, apparently replaced by Prof. Dr. Dilip Ukey.
Anyway, would love to hear of your experience.
Any reviews of the VCs' performance? Has MNLU Mumbai finally got its own proper campus now? Does it need one or is this CETTM arrangement fine? How are hostels? Batch sizes are still quite small, right? How many students are currently there? And how many faculty are there (the website still lists BB Panda as faculty, so I'm not sure how up-to-date it is).
Has a recruitment cell been started yet? Is the university supportive? Are recruiters? How much does the university support mooting activities? Have students won any moots yet? Debates? Have the students organised many events yet? And has the university provided funds for such events?
Any other thoughts on why (besides location), a law aspirant should/would pick MNLU Mumbai over HNLU, RMLNLU, NLUO or many of the other older NLUs, or even GLC (which, despite all its problems, has more reliable recruitments and industry contacts than MNLU M at present, presumably)?
Happy to be proven wrong, and happy to engage on this.
- True picture of placements
- Student:faculty ratio
- Updated faculty bios
- State of campus infrastructure (with photos and videos)
- Location and girls safety
- Extra curricular activities on campus
Right now, no coaching centre gives this info. They are misleading thousands of students. Also, some gullible students are posting comments on LI seeking guidance, but are instead being misguided by your readers.
Prof. Panda is still associated with University as Honorary Director of Centre for Maritime Law and Research which is supported by Directorate General of Shipping, GoI.
You have to be a good student yourself.
There are failures in NLSIU and winners in TNNLU.
[quote]I need one help.
So far from Kolkata i know only 3 who have rank more than 300 in CLAT 2019. And i am sure it is not more than 6.
The highest rank is 113 in Kolkata.
How about bangalore, patna, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bhubaneswar, Ranchi ? How many in top 100?
I am shocked!!
South India has also done bad.
Congratulations North and West India.[/quote]
https://www.facebook.com/RSCMforCLAT/
I'm getting NALSAR (Hyderabad) and NLU-Delhi. Both are equidistant and I have no bias towards either. Please help me make an informed choice about which NLU i should choose. Fee may be an issue here. Delhi is less expensive. But the fee is not prohibitive in either.
Anyone, please.
thanks!
You'll have more of a life at NLU-Delhi, but NALSAR has greater perception value (for sure) and is potentially slightly higher quality of teachers and students (this may or may not be true in 5 years when you graduate, or in 4 when you sit for placements, if that's what you want to do with your life).
NLU-D is still to undergo it's first leadership change, and this will happen in the next couple of years, which will likely cause a blip in its performance. NALSAR has already dealt with this, so even if there is another leadership change soon, it's unlikely to matter as much. Given this, I would pick NALSAR.
Disclaimer: I was never a student at either (got into NALSAR but chose another college instead. NLUD wasn't around when i got into college). I have worked with people from both and have friends who have studied at and teach at both, and have visited both campuses multiple times.
Oh, and congratulations!
Which one is better?
Aren't there other better parameters that be brought into the conversation. As far as CAM picking 17 grsds from GNLU is concerned, the firm won't repeat the same and it was just a one time experience. I've been in close contact with CAM's HR. The student quality has not been par satisfactory.
P.S.- This in no way should be the sole criterion for choosing a law school.
"I've been in close contact with CAM's HR": Misleading people in seek of genuine advice just to feed your complexes won't help NLIU.
I've been fortunate enough to get a PPO from CAM and thats why the statement of being in touch with the HR.
From one time experience, I meants recruiting in such huge numbers from GNLU. I hope this pacifies your thirst and useless attempts to pump gnlu's reputation in the public fora.
The only point I wanted to make was that your initial argument of shroff family's ties with Modi was too far fatched to draw any conclusion. That is it. I hope the day zero this time is as good as last year. GNLU ke bhi ache din aaye. Best of luck.
And yeah, the HR is pretty chill with me :)
https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/gnlu-places-44-day-zero-students-with-huge-trilegal-harvest-of-15-cam-of-13-training-contracts-20190418-10013
You really need to re-evaluate your friendship with the HR!!
Go work now, otherwise you will have to stay till midnight in the office and then complain how draconian law firm work culture is.
The only possible problem with choosing GLC is that marking is random, exams are rote learning and the academic environment is poor. This won't affect your recruitment chances much, but can adversely affect dreams of Harvard, Oxford etc. You can how we compensate for this to an extent by undertaking a kick-ass internship.
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This is the changing face of CLAT and the changing face of India. Lutyens elites no longer have a monopoly on things.
https://www.exambazaar.com/blogpost/clat-2019-topper-harsh-tomar-exam-study-tips
[img]https://i.imgur.com/6DN0LsO.png[/img]
PS- Mera clat clear nahi hua ...up me aur lawschool hote toh mai bhi clat clear karke khush rehta...
https://www.quora.com/Which-should-be-preferred-NUJS-Kolkata-or-NLU-Jodhpur-After-the-instability-regarding-NUJS-VC-and-small-campus-which-one-should-one-go-for/
http://www.clatgyan.com/the-window/nalsar-v-nlu-delhi-making-a-well-reasoned-decision/
[i] My experience as a graduate from this university can be summed up in one word: Horror!
Students and their intellect are not valued but rather they are treated as subjects.
We had snakes in our toilets and on our walkways. Students have had near death experiences. There is no medical provision for such events.
They do not switch on lights in the night, leaving students vulnerable to snakes and scorpios.
The food is a nightmare. Not only is it disgusting in taste, but unhygienic to the core. Cats and dogs lick and eat from our used plates.
Water is burning hot during summers and freezing cold during winters.
Electricity in the hostels is a privilege. Be prepared to sit in your own pool of sweat.
Eateries- There are no eateries on campus. The ones that are there, are highly likely to give you food poisoning. The eateries that are decent and hygienic do not open because they are charged rent by the University.
The campus is so dirty and filthy, only cleaned when the accreditation personnel are due to visit the campus.
The campus is so far away that you will spend half your time and money on transport.
NO FACILITIES OR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR STUDENTS. [/i]
1. Yes, there are some snakes on campus. No, there's never been a snake bite or any near-death experience. There are floodlights everywhere around campus, it's very well-lit. [Much to the disappointment of students].
2. Animals are not allowed inside the mess area, so the scenario of animals eating from mess plates does not arise.
3. We have normal water facilities.
4. There are 6 eateries on campus, including a CCD outlet.
5. The campus is actually quite clean. The hostels are swept every day. It's a beautiful campus full of greenery and trees (a peaceful environment one wouldn't get within a city).
As for locals, no one has ever treated a person differently for their culinary tastes.
[b]Does anyone have any advice on what is better between a tier-II NLU (in my case, NLUO or MNLU Mumbai) vs Symbiosis?[/b]
On an unrelated note, a major reason for the upward shift of NLUO in CLAT takers' preferences might be because one of the largest coaching classes had instructed its students across India to stick to its list for the top 8 preferences while filling in the CLAT application. In this list, NLUO was placed at the 8th rank. I'm sure thousands of students would have listened to that advice.
And with the pref list as I put
I have RMLNLU allotted to me
And the person just ahead of me in ranking
Sits in MNLU MUMBAI
MY PREF LIST after top4
GNLU
MNLU
RMLNLU
Gap of 47 people is in between my rank
And the last gen rank in GNLU
Please advise me on
1)whether to choose MNLU over RMLNLU
2)how good are the chances of getting GNLU
AIR 464
1. Gujarat is the best governed and developing state because of PM Modi. NLIU is in MP, which is part of the backward BIMARU states,
2. There are many law firm owners and businessmen who are Gujarati (CAM, SAM, Ambani, Adani etc). They recruit from GNLU.
3. GNLU gets lot of funding because of 1 and 2.
4. Infra and campus are very good.
5. Gujarat is very safe for girls unlike North India.
I will tell you why NLIU is better than GNLU. 100% placements. As I said the day GNLU comes up with full placements like NLIU we will talk. NLIU has been kicking GNLU’s ass in placements, mooting and whatever activity you name it from time immemorial so take a chill pill bruh.
According to the latest available placement figures NLIU is ahead of GNLU as well as Jodhpur according to 2018 figures (2019 figures are yet to come out). You can find the same in LegallyIndia archives if you search for it.
https://jurysoutblog.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/the-gnlu-primer-2019/
We hope to welcome you all for a very enriching five year experience!
Clarification: No dress code as such. Avoid relying on these comments when forming an opinion for taking a decision.
1) NLSIU: Superb VC coming up in Sudhir; State CM is bad, but will be replaced by pro-development Yedyurappa of BJP soon, so that is good.
2) NLUD: Names for next VC are good, so future is good. Current Delhi CM is a populist, but is educated (IIT grad) and has not interfered in NLUD yet.
3) NALSAR: Current VC is good and will stay for some time. State CM is from a regional party, but is progressive.
4) GNLU: PM Modi's support is enough to pump in crores of rupees and improve the college. The new VC is also good.
5) NLIU: Current VC is very good, among the best. State CM is Congress and very corrupt, but Shivraj Singh Chauhan of BJP (one of the best CMs) will hopefully soon be back.
6) NLUO: Doing very well because Naveen Patnaik is a very good and modern CM, even though from a regional party. Even if BJP comes to power they will appoint Dharmendra Pradhan, who is also very good. So a very good future. Current VC is also very good, but may shift to NLUD. So problem there.
7) NUJS: Declining badly. Years of bad admin, now a VC of very average quality. State CM is mentally insane. BJP may come to power and appoint a good CM like Swapan Dasgupta, but things are uncertain. I will say that if Swapanji becomes the next CM NUJS can become top again, else not.
8) NLUJ: Current VC is just ok. Current CM is horrible, but Rajasthan always changes CMs so BJP will return again. But rating it low for now because of current terrible CM. This man sucks big time.
5 stars for trying! Dismal state of affairs, I guess.
https://twitter.com/Chandra57887395/status/1141180045366480896
https://twitter.com/Chandra57887395/status/1141169853807509504
https://twitter.com/Chandra57887395/status/1141178858760093698
https://twitter.com/Chandra57887395/status/1141177154148814848
From first to last rank:
NLSIU: 1-57
NALSAR: 50-128
NUJS: 82-226
NLUJ: 129-351
NLIU: 148-369
https://barandbench.com/clat-2019-gender-ratios-rank-cut-offs-and-more/
NLUO
HNLU
RGNUL
HPNLU