Then show us someone from an average college who made into foreign law firms and are on an equal footing with candidates from NLS/NALSAR/Nujs. This should be contested. They don’t care about the tag to an extent. Why do you think in UK KCL has a much more magic circle recruitment compared to Manchester or Aberdeen?

The efforts are completely individual - yes Dyam true. But doesn’t mean they don’t look at your college at all. RCC won’t have much role here to play. But if what you said was true , then people from tier-2/tier-3 NLU would have possessed an equal shot. I am not insulting those college’s insecurity but actually putting up the reality. Recently Symbi Pune got offers but that’s not a regular thing for them. In fact it was after a very long time that they got offers from magic circle. Till GNLu one has a good chance of foreign law firms. When I was in a tier-3 nlu initially my seniors told me that “phoren woren bhul jao , domestic upma seh kaam chala lo”.

Thanks for your kind reply.

I have a few more questions.

My only point at this time frame of choosing NALSAR over NLSIU is that I am very very afraid of the trimester system ( I am decent in studies but not 100% academically focused even if I want to and doesn't have that rigour). I have heard that NLS blocks the student GPA after 3rd year. Also, I get the feeling that I might fail a year NLSIU.

I was talking about CBCS( choice based credit system) when I said students can choose their own course in NALSAR.

Pls elaborate a little bit more on the academics part.

yes, if you do get into NUJS take it

the classrooms will shift to the main campus in two years time, the construction has already started to add two floors to the academic building to build the labs and extra classrooms. University has bought a new bus to ferry students, the temp buildings are about 2.5km away

The hostel situation is a bit tricky, although provisions have been made to accomodate the incoming batch of the bsc llb students but this will get fully filled up after next years incoming batch, although land had been allocated during the time of ishwara bhatt to build new hostel block but the govt agency which held the land refused to hand over the land inspite of order by the govt, so it is stuck in a limbo

however, there are lot of PGs available in the neighbourhood, and the situation may change in 2026 when this problem will occur

Make the switch to NUJS. Especially since you're on an NRI quota at RML, it makes absolutely no sense to stay there. And yes, NUJS is one of the best placement-wise, but it remains to be seen how it fares with an increased batch size. But even then, it's hands-down superior to RML. And maybe think of CLAT 2024 after you've seen how the NUJS course turns out to be for you.

There is no metrics to measure curriculum and faculty. Some faculty exits are always there and the quality increases-decreases with time. What makes NALSAR, NALSAR is its students and career outcomes. Moots is again not linked with Jobs as such. But even when it comes to Moots it is not like Nalsar is behind anyone. This point is childish. It is like saying I have a better debating team then your school ergo my school is better. Anyways point being NALSAR has maintained top student intake, high law firm-in house placements (SINGLE BIGGEST FACTOR), great industry perception, scholarships, foreign LLMs. great alum network and what not and in all this cumulatively it is higher ranked than NLUD. Coming to bit non relevant factors, it probably has the most scenic campus of all law schools.

Trilegal is a fatichar pesky firm.They don't have good market value nor do they have any great legal achievement to boast or.Their entire disputes team is a joke.The cap markets team is incompetent.And its desperation to stay afloat and hide its attrition of many old hands is evident from the partner hiring spree they have gone on.Their Associate attrition is not as high as a CAM,AZB because they are least bothered about results.They pretend to have a meritocratic culture but its toxic workplace as bad as any Lala shop

SILF is no one to decide for lawyers and legal sector.They just want to pander to their rich lala friends.SILF is basically rich lawyers union bent on obstructing the greater good of legal sector in India.How will nepotism thrive if foreign law firms and merit culture are allowed in legal industry?Right?How will mediocre counsel continue to command high fees if they have competition?

This was the initial reaction of kings and nawabs who were forced to give up kingdoms and integrate their kingdoms in India.Tier1 lalas feeling the threat to their kingdoms and refusing foreign law firm entry is not going to help them anymore.Once FTA formalised, its bye bye SILF.Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Why is LI moderating my comment that says employees had not stolen data but allows comment that employees had stolen data.is LI taking CAMs side?y?Nowhere its ever proved that employees stole data...so why is LI moderating one side of the comments while allowing free hand to other?

Did they ask you intrusive questions about having a girlfriend,were you prone to panic attacks?See,with CAM if you have decent grades and sone decent experience then they tend to hire instantly because they prefer not to keep lateral positions open and hire the first candidate they can.But if they find out that you got health issues or panic attacks or are WLB oriented they won't hire you.I say you got lucky you didn't get hired.Enjoy your luck and forget CAM

As per the new policy, one can appear a 70 Marks exam once in a year.

Imagine if someone falls sick of unfortunately someone loses his near ones. No more chances of appearing the Exemption exam.

What if a student couldn't appear a single paper? Won't be get a year back.

Such Draconian policies would lead to more mental health crisis amongst students.

High time for juniors to raise their voice against Maladministration or Face the same.

Hello everyone, I have to fill the NLU preference for the registration of the CLAT 2024 exam. I have done my deep & thorough research on the web (Youtube, Google, Quora, Reddit) regarding the same. I am thinking of putting NALSAR Hyderabad over NLSIU Bangalore as my 1st preference for the following reasons:

CURRICULUM (My biggest Concern, I want to have a balanced life of academics and college life): It's less hectic, more student friendly and approachable(students can choose design their own course by choosing their own subjects) than NLSIU Bangalore because it doesn't have the trimester system(I have heard it gets a lot hectic, exhaustive and mundane over time) which NLSIU Bangalore has.

PLACEMENT (Major concern): I know both these colleges have good corporate placements. The placement rate is 90% for NALSAR and 76% for NLSIU when compared domestically but internationally NALSAR Hyderabad has 7-8 foreign placements per batch where as NLSIU Bangalore has 3-4.

CAMPUS SIZE :55 acre vs 23 acre. I have no problem regarding the fact that NALSAR Hyderabad is 30km from the main city.

LATEST 5 YEAR FEES: 12 lakh vs 16 Lakh+ (additional mess fees). Money isn't a big concern here but it is better to save some and use it somewhere else. Also, ROI is better in NALSAR Hyderabad.

From what I have heard about NLSIU Bangalore is that there is too much academic pressure due to which social life gets hampered a lot, increased batch size has diluted the level of professors as well as they have not yet built hostels(in construction)for the increased batch size for the people coming thru NLSAT as well as the latest 2020 VC crisis where they had protested and made the VC Resign and in the same year NLSIU separated from Consortium of NLUs due to late conduction of the Clat and took it's own examination(candidates used unfair means) so as to avoid a zero year and save rs.16 crore.

Despite all of this NLSIU Bangalore is still on 1st position in college rankings and my teachers in coaching are advising to put NLSIU Bangalore at 1st and NALSAR at 2nd. This is the main reason why I am hesitant in putting NALSAR Hyderabad over NLSIU Bangalore.

I also want to add one thing since I am OBC. I have more chances of getting into NALSAR Hyderabad than NLSIU Bangalore based on the ranks required for NLSIU(171-841, 1st merit 2023) & NALSAR(923-1116, 1st merit list 2023)

So, my fellow seniors studying in these colleges please guide me as to what my decision should be based on the info I provided above.

Tldr: Putting NALSAR at 1st preference for CLAT due to less hectic curriculum, bigger campus size, less fees and better international placements but everyone (coaching teachers, mentors on YT) is saying that say NLSIU is older and on the 1st position so put it on the 1st preference. Totally confused, pls help.

Please Give your Thoughts, Insights & guide me as to making a right decision.

https://twitter.com/Guiltfoyle/status/1678801741733834752?t=-2mIrphXw48qebtyaBxemw&s=19

Is this true, Tier 1 associates? No leave, seriously?

Barring corp law firm people in Delhi/Mumbai and nepo kids, I don't think lawyers earn humungous amounts. I think most lawyers in India will earn max 1.5 to 2 cr a year and most will be happy with 50 lakhs a year. Kapil Sibal and Cyril Shroff don't represent the majority!

In comparison, many street food hawkers in big cities easily earn between 1 to 5 lakhs a month.

Hello, I'm currently in RMLNLU NRI-Sponsored. The fees is almost 50 lakhs for 5 years in total.

Today, the list of applicants who paid the application fees for WBNUJS' BSCLLB course (BSC in Forensics and Criminology) was released.

In general All-India category, there are 22 seats. My serial number is 25. This list is of 26th June (and there was an email on a very short notice sent by WBNUJS for all the applicants on 6th July wherein they had to reply with their self-attested Aadhar Card and CLAT score card by 7th July), so by now there's a high probability many students above me would've joined other colleges or simply couldn't make it on time.

So, in case I get it, should I join WBNUJS' BSCLLB course? I heard they'd have a new campus and hostels, but the subjects they're offering are pretty good and since WBNUJS has one of the best ,if not the best, domestic placements in the NLU circuit, the placements after 5 years may also be good (the placement committee for both BALLB and BSCLLB would be the same).

Even if the placements aren't good, they really aren't an issue for me. The college has a really good brand value, and from next year the crowd would be great as well (NLIU's BSCLLB closes <AIR 600 despite it being exclusive for science stream students, and WBNUJS' BSCLLB is for everyone). Also, considering these factors, would giving CLAT 2024 be worth it (it'll be my second drop)?

My friend couldn’t apply for vacancies in literally all the tier-2 and tier-3 nlu apeven after having a decent clat general rank. He was bedridden and was also suffering from personal issues and thus couldn’t fill the form. Can he contact and request the university via mail to get his name listed or at least try the way out by application via for him to eligible for vacancies? Well if not for general then can at least NRI sponsored seats be requested to be filled? He is willing to sit for even NRIS seats as well. I know some nlus do have a strict deadline and they don’t accept request beyond that. Some nlus we literally have to call them to request them for vacancies if available. What’s the scene? Can anything be done via mail or calls. If yes then for which nlus?

CAMs lateral hiring process these days is to get the first okayish candidate on boarded as quickly because work is piling up given high attritions and vacant positions.If you haven't got the call its because they dont think you are okayish or they found someone at a cheaper cost and are willing to join sooner,maybe even a fresher.So don't get all your hopes up,Its just CAM

For those who don't know, no magic circle or city law firm goes to the campus of top 3-4 nlus to hire students. The students themselves apply for a training contract which is a process in itself. And these firms receive applications from all over the world including students from Harvard/Oxbridge/LSE/NYU/Yale. So they don't really care about the NLU tag. As long as the candidate has merit, and clears the process, he/she will get a TC.

So a person from any average college has as good a chance as someone from NLS/NALSAR.

Another poor thing has to be some creepy batchmates. I will not be calling out any particular name but this one guy along with his group of friends kept on finding ways to talk to me, kept following me, even taking quick glances at me during classes and I started to find this really awkward after some time so I deliberately tried to avoid him by not replying to his texts, changing my mess timings so that I do not have to cross him except in classroom. Every other girl also told me that he does this to everyone and they try to avoid him. Not just that even when he himself is not around his friends try to keep a check on you and inform him. This guy currently will be starting his ▮▮▮ year and behaves like a kid thinking that taking these bollywood glances is fun. Try to behave like an adult out of your fantasy world. No girl accepts these creepy behaviour and will talk to you. Respect women and make things less awkward please. Instead consider spending time to get a job before a criminal complaint forces you to rethink your life choices.

I talked to a partner of a T1 firm over Linkedin asking for Internship, and he asked me to send my CV to his mail ID. I did that and communicated of it to him on his LinkedIn which he responded positively. However, I haven't heard back anything from the Firm, absolutely nothing from the HR. It has been a week now and no response. What should be my next course of option?

The MCC is the worst place to be at NUSRL. Being a junior I have borne the brunt of one so called 'Head' Student there. Extremely arrogant dude with no manners whatsoever. I still don't understand why people even consider these people so highly. Bro, you have your achievements in place but that does not mean you can trample the hopes of others. To everyone coming to NUSRL this year, steer clear of this guy.

Apparently a few NLUs have dress codes for girls???????? Which NLUs police girls clothes through dress codes? Which don't? And what do girls generally wear to fit in with the crowd?

Also, maybe it's not a good idea for girls to wear expensive and glamorous designer clothes in a setting where most students are middle-class and cannot afford such clothes? To that extent does the NLU fashion scene differ from Jindal?

As someone who's spent time at both places, the answer would be "it depends". NLSIU offers a great name to have on your CV in India, a rigorous approach to studying laws in India (albeit informed by a global context), it trains you to write an extraordinarily large number of projects within short and challenging timelines, it exposes you both to theoretical and practical areas of (or related to) the law, you have very smart peers due to the rigour of the entrance exam process and you are able to more easily develop your networks in India being based there. Oxford has much more global name recognition (and sometimes looked down upon in modern day India, with exceptions in some traditional areas of the law), it is much more UK/Europe/US law based (and rarely informed by an Indian/ emerging markets context), its trains you to write with extraordinary rigour (fewer projects; more original work), it is unapologetically theoretical in its approach, your peers may not always have gone through as rigorous an entry process as in India (but would be more diverse) and your would find it easier to develop international networks than Indian networks. On balance, your friend could not go very wrong with either decision - as litigation in India would offer a steep learning curve irrespective - but would do well to give thought to what she looks to get out of her next few years.

Don't kid yourself. This debate is as as irrelevant as LI is now. NLUD is the only NLU that doesn't have a local domicile quota and is actually national in character being located in the capital. These two are just older. By that reason alone, OP should prefer NLUD over the rest, if he gets in there.

Bro its 2023, use Bing, ChatGPT and Notion AI for every stage of writing from deciding a topic, research and critique/analysis. You could easily churn out articles in just 1-2 hours. After that, just look for blogs from tier 2 and tier 3 NLUs and send in your submissions. I don't see any wrong in this, tech is meant to be used.

As someone who is in the editorial board of blog and journal at a tier 1 NLU, I could assure you that no one is using AI checkers yet. Also, plagiarism could be easily bypassed if you are smart enough.

Hey, if you want to argue, start with chamber from day 1. You will be wasting your time going to a law firm if your ultimate aim is litigation. Do note that as a litigator, you won't be able to sustain only on competition law litigation as competition cases are too few - can be counted on fingers.

Bhai what world are you living in? Bro, I can predict completely that even if the group is made no one will help one other, all would be self-interested and selfish. It would become similar to the condition which has been plauging the GNLU'24 batch, who have been mired in incessant selfishness, toxicity and back-biting. Instead of helping to join T-1 and T-2 firms, everyone would be busy looking to garner sadistic pleasure by mocking each other. Welcome to reality, we Law students are not half as united as the IIT people are. Though I welcome your suggestion which I fell is a v. good one, however practically it is not a good idea. I don't want it to become another GNLU'24 whatsapp group, whereas everyone is busy pulling each other down everytime behind their backs.

I think the first question to the DSK MA would be if their partner is being paid or not at DSK? If not, I think the answer is clear.

This thread should give better context, please see the latest comments

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/250780-Luthra-Folks-who-left-for-DSK-How-are-they-Faring-#comments

Ahem, excuse yourself, lol. No, I'm not concerned with NIRF, although it could press the point home without all the data calculation discrepancies. Just compare the achievements of NLUD v NALSAR across the last 10 years in moots/debates/ADR, research growth, faculty recruitment, scholarships etc. NLUD is on par if not ahead. Only area where NALSAR is certifiably ahead is number of Indian law firm jobs, that too because of how old it is and its industry perception, which takes time to build.

They are already praised by their college, why are you praising here? Working is different from studying !! You praising is irrelevant here because he was thrown out due to his misogynist behaviour and now he is covering up by mill of run excuse that "firm was toxic" you were those toxic person who make the work place toxic. All you praising his college shit accolades but you'd hate the same behaviour if he was to rise up to rank in coming 10 years. I am happy that ▮▮▮ threw the toxicity person out of their workplace

MCC is very unqualified to judge students by themselves. The process is hilarious to say the least. A certain practice of boot-licking is practised even in several NLUs but the kind that is preached here in NUSRL is horrifying. Talented people with great points are left behind and mediocre people are chosen especially in NUSRL. The academic committees and professors also preach favouritism - whom will you blame here?

Bullshit, no one was taking the data out. That was a trumped up false charge that was fabricated by CAM to prevent the Chennai CAM team ,that was being fired, from joining SAM.Such is CAMs arrogance that they don't want the employees they have turned out to get another job because that job is at bade bhaiyyas firm SAM

Alright, since you want to compared for NLUD - Man Lachs (twice), OxPrice, OxIPR, ICC Trial, Henry Duanant Worlds, internationally. Apart from that, semis at Vis Vienna, Stetson, Frankfurt Arb and we've won nearly every national moot from NLSTIAM to DM Harish, KK Luthra etc. And the ADR/debating achievements are no less - Warsaw Negotiation, InADR, MukMem of Stephens, NLS Debate whatever else there is, we've won it/ done well in it. These wins are even better than what NALSAR has done so I think we're more than justified in being second only to NLS, that too because of age.

I recall what NUJS has achieved too, they've won both the Vis Moots twice (and the first two were before NLUD was even set up), ELSA WTO and Stetson Worlds. Certainly not bad from NUJS, but not better than NLUD especially comparing the last 10 years once NLUD had a full five batches every year. Look at the MPL between 2010-18, NLUD performed better than NUJS is most years.

Please do not spread misinformation. NLSIU currently pays approximately 85k gross every month to a fresh Assistant Professor, which is the UGC scale. JGLS offers a full Assistant Professor 1.4L gross every month to begin with, along with several other perks. There is a huge difference. People are choosing NLSIU over other universities because of quality and academic mindset and not money.

Nah, I’ve read multiple comments of this sort. But they’re all pretty misinformed or simply hark back to the past. NALSAR has been underperforming for a long time now. Whether it’s co-curriculars, faculty or research. Especially over the last decade, NLUD has overtaken it. You can be in denial if that helps you sleep at night. Forget the NIRF, that’s not what I’m basing it on. Look at their annual reports for the past decade, and other information available on sites this this. And I’ve interacted with folks from both the places, there’s hardly a difference in quality.

The reason people like you will keep shouting that NALSAR is better is merely the same perception idea that makes some say that NLS is much better than NALSAR. They’re an older brand that are historically established. Not a better one anymore. And as far as NUJS goes, I think they’re also better than NALSAR in student achievements in recent years. But the admin and politics undoes most of the good work. And no, NLUD is better than NUJS too. It caught up a long time ago, not my fault if you’re unaware/want to remain in denial.

Thank you @Funds2PE. This was very helpful. Also, did you face any kind of problem in transitioning from Funds practice to PE practice? Was your experience discounted in switching from funds to PE? And in your limited experience at funds practice, do you happen to know any fund-specific team in Delhi NCR?

Male court advocates have a hard time getting hitched. Because of patriarchy men are expected to be the breadwinners which they become only after a decade of practice. On the other hand, women in law firms have harder time getting thier matches. Because men are too egoistic to getting married to someone making double what they do, this also because of patriarchy. But most people (men and women) marry at the end of the day.

This is incorrect. Law firm women are far more likely to be single lifelong than court advocate women. The reason being women in Litigation mostly get married by the age of 27 to someone or the other. In firms, women on partner track often have high expectations about a potential life partner and end up being single.

1. Richard Geldond (CEO of IMAX) - pursued law from Northwestern Pritzker School of Law

2. Haley Altman (CEO of Doxly)

3. Ned Gannon - eBrevia

4. Peter Thiel - PayPal (pursued law from Stanford)

5. Naiya Saggi (Good Glamm Group) - pursued law from National Law School of India University, Bengaluru

6. Charlie Munger (Berkshire Hathaway - Vice Chairman)

7. Nehal Maldani - CEO of ALT Legal

8. Bill Neukom

After student protest and multiple representations, NUJS has rolled back this system of grouping of electives. Students have gone back to check marksheets of previous semester and opt of only high scoring subjects, which mostly lack academic rigour. Shameful that VC agreed to the student demand. Now again legit electives will keep getting scrapped.

Pressure has already been put on the administration and the groups have been removed. As usual, NUJS admin always caves in to students seeking to dilute academic standard. This is why the university keeps on sliding down the perception scale. Even the students who are going to sit for Day Zero in a few days now want their faculty from the first year to teach them basics. Lol! They will still bag the jobs though, which goes to show the pathetic situation of the Indian law firms.