Attend each and every hearing where the Senior appears. Befriend the Senior’s PA to know his schedule for the next day.

Prepare case notes for as many matters as you can. Discuss those the day before hearing and the the evening after hearing, as many times as he chooses to hear you.

Research and keep notes on relevant case laws. Table format. Check if they have been upheld or overruled.

Perceive yourself as his current junior and not as an intern. Reach office before he does and leave after he leaves.

This is your mentorship.

We’re the New Jews of India, Says Congress Spokeperson Manish Tiwari on Dorsey’s Brahmin Poster Row (thequint.com)

no one should take the likes of tiwary seriously.

Hi, I realize that lucky played its part. The damage is done. However I am applying for internships to law firm of every size and not getting response. So, questions for u all please

(1) is it polite to call them at their office no. to ask status of application

(2) I have now seen syllabus of top law schools and realize that they study M&A and other corporate law subjects in better detail .

My law college had just one paper of company law. I just know few things about company law. Nothing else. Will that be hindrance at this stage ?

(3) can anyone outline procdure / steps to get internship?

Thanking u

Hey,

I’d suggest that you try and get in touch with the HR personnel in your company and maybe request them to clarify the reason for all this. You’ll get a better idea that way. And if you are close to someone who’s HR, pls try asking them to request. I kinda then there’s some politics at play here. So this may help. But I’m sorry you’ve been out in this position and I hope things work out soon enough.

And also pls don’t resort to confrontation. It may backfire. But this doesn’t mean you tolerate toxic behaviour.

Hi, so this is coming from an A1 who comes from a decent college working at a T2 firm. I am someone who isn't too passionate about law but as I find it easy and is currently the shortest route to earning a decent money 10-15 years down the line I am planning to stick with it. Just wanted to ask that whether is it kind of guaranteed that after 10-12 years you would be earning above a crore ?? Asking because I come from a pretty humble background so that is enough of motivation for me to keep on working , but I feel the lack of number of lawyers 10-12 years ago meant that even mid lawyers have kind of made it , which isn't going to be case just because of the numbers of lawyers graduating every year ? Am I making sense ? Sorry this is essentially me vommiting my mid-night anxiety thoughts anonymously . So my question is basically is it actually worth it ? To stick for 10-12 years ?

TNNLU students are acing at their internships. I heard their placement committee is functioning very well. TNNLU students are interning at great law firms like, JSA, AZB, SAM, Trilegal and many other. From my interactions with few partners at law firms, I got to know that TNNLU students are very fast learners and humble. Their placement brochure is yet to be released which would give a clear understanding of the placements college.

As far the students are concerned, it is less toxic compared to other NLUs, every seniors and helpful and approachable. There are many forums to showcase talents for the people who are interested in extra curricular activities.

TNNLU has a 25 acres green campus with almost all of the amenities. It has a really great library with subscription to almost all of the top law journals and e books. TNNLU is a growing university, if your joining the university at 2025, by the time you finish your graduation, TNNLU would have reached to great heights. I advice you to consider TNNLU as a growing Tier 3 college.

The worst thing was the mail sent by the MP. A friend showed me a screenshot, where his excuse for delaying the increments was that he is going for a vacation 😂😂😂

Wonder if that’s an acceptable excuse for the counsels to not deliver work!! From what I hear, they still haven’t received increments and it’s almost the end of the year.

NLS Bangalore mein hai, people still take law firm jobs mostly in Delhi and Mumbai after leaving there. If your state creates employment opportunities, then you would return there after finishing your studies. Moreover, nothing stops your government from investing into institutions within your state to offer similar level of education as NLS. Did Menon start NLS in the same state as prominent trad unis like DU? Any NLU can be turned into a good place to study if sufficient resource is invested and good people are put in charge. Didn't Ranvir Singh prove that with NLUD? Start holding your own state government accountable for not doing such things. You vote them into power, after all!

Ghanta! Sudhir is demonstrably better in 2 and 8 only. Worse in 1, 5 and 7. About 6, the jury is still out, maybe after Sudhir gets another term we may be in a position to compare. About 3, both favour people close to them and harass others. About 4, there will be as many opinions for and against one as the other. Non teaching staff will definitely vote against Sudhir.

NLUD doesn't even have that. As for your comment that IIT KGP teachers don't law, compare their publications with your current NLUD faculty and cope and seethe. Each of them has got way better research record in terms of publications. NLUD faculty's current publication record is abysmal, especially after the departure of Mrinal, Chinmayi, Arul and Aparna.

Would doubt placing CNLU in this bracket (in terms of placements). I have otherwise seen people from DSNLU and NLU Nagpur much better placed in job market.

Also GNLU v. NLIU preference dilemma is protracted. GNLU was coming out as winner for last few years, but has now earned itself a bad name due to insensitive new batches and other horrible events. NLIU is also neck and neck with GNLU in terms of placements.

I'm seeking mentorship in litigation. Mainly in the Mumbai scene. I'm a first-gen lawyer to-be and I'm really interested in litigation now that I've got a taste of it from under a Delhi Senior Advocate. The stint was too short for me to learn much. Now that I'm not interning until December (which is also a litigation internship under a senior counsel in Mumbai) I'd really like to impress them and wish to know how to get my A-game on.

I struggled a lot in Delhi, but I'd like to impress the next one for a potential PPO of sorts here. Pray help! Thanks in advance.

I am an alumnus of an NLU and happen to know Mr Mookerjee very well. He is a person of high integrity. I can speak from knowledge that he was unhappy with the other lawyers being appointed by the government in various cases. These lawyers are mostly TMC activists or relatives of TMC politicians, with degrees from shady colleges and no standing at the bar. Mamata must understand that the AG alone can't handle all the work and it's important to appoint other competent lawyers who can do their work properly. You also can't accuse the AG of non-performance when your ministers are looting crores and getting caught red-handed, and then the Cal HC denies them bail and allows the ED to do its job.

Excellent comment, my friend. Deserves featured status. But just one point of difference with you: you say that Kishore Datta can't bring down the place any further. I disagree. Had SN Mookherjee remained as AG, he would not have stopped to the level of interfering with the appointment of the next VC. He would have okayed the appointment of, say, someone like Faizan or VCV. I do think they would have applied, as living in Kolkata is better than living in Patna and Raipur. But Datta will rig the process in a way that they either won't apply or they will get overlooked. Of course, the SJA could protest in the way that the SBA did at NLSIU, but don't hold your breath.

I am expecting JK Das, AKP or Rathin Bandopadhyay to be the next VC now.

I'm curious as to who NLS students find to be better as a VC. Sudhir or Rao? Please base your answers ONLY on the following criteria (to ensure objective answers):

1. Infrastructurual development

2. Pedagogical/curricular improvement

3. Administrative/bureaucratic expediency

4. Development of Faculty/staff/personnel

5. Improvement of placements

6. International collaborations

7. Student life and welfare

8. Academic rigour

Problem with NUJS is that it is now filled with mediocre professors with no standards who survive by catering to the worst elements amongst students who want easy exams, lots of marks, attendance without attending classes and free lunches of other kinds

Their favourite pass time is to engage in blood feud against the other profs who might be getting slightly ahead of them in career trajectory

Hard working profs with innovative ideas are sidelined and they leave

Students don't care as long as there is enough placement through campus

VC not able to solve the puzzles of various interests among faculty to move things along

The place is ruining itself, merely a rent seeking organization with no growth, we don't need any outsider to help :)

What could a Kishore Dutta do that faculty and students are not already doing to our beloved NUJS?

Hi,

With my limited knowledge and experience with the two weeks of internship, I do not think I am the most competent to answer this question or reach out. However, even with this stint and the turn of horrible events thereon, one thing is for sure the SAM ECM Mumbai may not be hiring. Their Mumbai office has one Partner and one PA and lot of Associates. Also they aren't doing Indus level work. They gave one PPO this year in the Bangalore office, but I guess thats it.

Also Delhi, I dont think they are hiring as well even with the attrition they are facing supposedly. Perhaps, partners are looking for more seasoned and lateral hires, switching to somewhat of a JSA CM model. I think someone with more experience with the team will help you better. Having said that, please dont reach out to Associates, SA, PAs, Partner and especially the HR, because they will all paint a very rosy picture to extract work from you and ghost you later. Maybe try out another team ? GC is always the safest switch.

Hey, my rank isn't as high at a Tier 1 NLU, due to an accident before the exams, which also resulted in severe PTSD and clinical depression. I have several ECM internships as well as an IB stint. Have published good papers. I could've appeared for the repeat had I failed, however even with basic attendance of classes and daily study I have managed to stay in the 70-80%. Could've easily scored 90% in the normal course of events.

Objectively, based off of ranks, you aren't going to shortlist me ever. And it will take me forever to recover (rank, health alike). Even assuming that those with better ranks are well within the "talent" standards you are hinting at, will you shortlist me? You wouldn't ask for exceptional circumstances such as that of the past 2 months of my life? you just wouldn't, would you. Would you get me a chance to work for four weeks with Yash's team for 10k? What do I do, dear HR?

Doesn't look like it. We've seen Palestine solidarity events/marches at JNU, Jindal, Jamia etc. NLUs seem to be conspicuously absent. This is strange not just because of the long progressive tradition at NLUs (especially NLSIU), but also because international human rights law is taken very seriously at NLUs.

Is it self-censorship because of the backlash by law firms in the US?

Brother I am from calcutta and an alumnus of nujs, let me tell you something, other than jobless randos on LI nobody gives a shit about nujs or any law school for that matter. These are not priorities for anyone outside of this website, even residents who reside right outside of nujs have no idea what that place is.

Hello, I have been in your situation and came out strongly. I had 3 years of experience in lit and in house, then I decided to join a law firm gen corp team to understand M&A transaction more closely. Within 2-3 months I realised that I made the wrong career move since the partners were very toxic. Everyday I used to wake up thinking how will I handle the tantrums and comments. After the 6th month, I resigned without any job and if took me 1 month to find another. But before actually submitting my resignation, I started applying very religiously, so by the time I resigned I had 4-5 interviews lined up wherein other than law stuffs I used to pitch it up that I can join immediately. This things play out in most of the place especially in house. I am not aware of your situation, but the balance you are looking is only to be found in companies. Law firms big or small works on the basis of client needs. But you can try in ALO, Emerald, Zeus, Sagacious IP etc. And please stay strong, I can totally relate of taking anxiety pills during day time to control that chilling blood in you which triggers anxiety. And when I say anxiety it's not ghabrahat, anxiety is serious thing. Please take care of yourself, you are important to your family and your friends. Jobs will come and go, but good human beings are seldom found. Just believe you are not alone there, many are struggling and coming out strongly. If I can come out, you can too much strongly than me. All the best. Please post about your journey herein.

Not just SC, but HCs too. Some judges are aware and they try and do something about it, but there is no structural reforms: https://www.livelaw.in/high-court/gujarat-high-court/gujarat-high-court-orders-enhanced-security-measures-after-registry-camera-concerns-242116

https://zeenews.india.com/india/bihar-assembly-unanimously-passes-75-reservation-bill-2686161.html

CNLU will have to adhere. This is a very good reason to avoid state universities at all costs. In contrast, no impact on IIT Patna, and AIIMS Patna - both are very new, but being national universities they remain unscathed in this jamboree.

I can provide you with an amazingly cheap way of pursuing a UK LLB degree and at the same time have an Indian degree.

The cheapest online UK degree (fully valid in the UK) is https://www.london.ac.uk/courses/bachelor-laws#fees-1167 it is a rage in Pakistan and West Africa. Total cost in three years is amazing £6118

After you complete your online UK degree, you can pursue a sandwich LLM Bar course at UoL https://www.law.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/law/bpc/ it will cost £15k (tuition) + £9k (living cost) = £24k this course is for one year and necessary to join pupilage at any of the inns, I havent found a place which does the bar course online

then comes the only hard part to find a pupilage. this will depend on your quality and entworking and interview skills. If you get a pupilage for one year you will qualify as a barrister. This is where you get paid.

So, when you are pursuing the online UK LLB degree from Uni of London you can pursue an Indian law degree as well. BCI says that Indian law degrees cannot be done online, but it does not say that foreign law degrees cannot be done online.

So, with just £30k in 4 years you can be ready to join pupilage. and in just 5 years from start become a barrister for more info have a look at UK's BCI https://www.barcouncil.org.uk/becoming-a-barrister.html

You are spot on. NUJS is royally screwed. The current SJA is totally inert and most students can be bribed with grades to shut up, so I am not hopeful of any resistance.

I just have a question though: did Dutta breach ethics by sitting over matters involving the former Regi and can he be reported to the BCI?

CAM has simply returned to their normal pattern of hiring this year, focussing only on the tag of your law school and your rank there.

I'll admit that this is against the frenzied 'if you are alive and interned with us, we'll hire you' phase that it went through last year in order to get to the 1000 lawyers mark. So, yes, you'll probably hear from the batch of 2023 people about how CAM distributed PPOs like candies and how that scenario is nowhere the same anymore. But, if you look back to their patterns for pre-covid & even 2021 & 2022 batches, you'll find that they are currently following the same pattern of being selective on acads & NLU tags.

You are giving too much importance to Nujs and yourself. In Government of West Bengal priorities, Nujs can only be the last thing to worry about. AG has not much business as such with a University.

Nujs has become mediocre with every passing year. A law school which used to challenge NLS Bangalore in 2010-11 on academic front has become comparable to NLU Jodhpur & GNLU in 2023, far behind NLS/ Nalsar.

Nujs badly needs a great VC and revamp of its faculty and infrastructure.

OMG this is terrible news 😢 But the IE report also says:

"Ghatak is also believed to have called Dutta, who according to sources, did not attend the minister’s call and instead phoned an MP from the state to seek his advice."

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/kolkata/west-bengal-advocate-general-9022502/

The MP is obviously his mentor Kalyan Banerjee. Any chance Kalyan could advise Dutta to decline the AG post and seek a Lok Sabha ticket or MLA ticket instead?

States will ensure that state universities remain mediocre, so it is best to avoid them. The national universities (even the newer ones) are much higher in the pecking order. Who was the WB AG when they successfully drove out Tata from Singur? That must have been a big 'feather' in his/her cap.