Lol, I see what you did there. Conveniently equating a doctorate from Yale with one from NLS. Let's be clear here, even a first year student at a top NLU wouldn't care for a PhD from NLS unless the person has atleast a UG degree from NLS or another top NLU. And YP is a good professor despite the lack of a foreign PhD. But that's more of an exception than a norm.

I rejoined a tier I firm after almost 2y of working in-house. The partner approached me casually on WhatsApp to check how I was doing. The conversation transitioned to him asking me if I was still interested in rejoining the firm. I took a day or two to evaluate the opportunity and confirmed him. If the partner is good, you should definitely think of rejoining the firm.

Hi guys & girls, I am someone who completed MCom & ICWA Intermediate

And currently pursuing LLB from G.J. Advani College (3year llb) (Mumbai) my grades are average.I am completely unsure of future, so I wanted to ask how to move further in Legal field ? Will internship experience help ?

Don't take this the wrong way, but your third question is leaning a bit towards complacency. Landing at a good chamber does not by itself set you up for life. The designated Sr. MIGHT give you matters only because s/he cannot now file VPs. They won't, however, help you build your practice in that sense; and while we might agree to disagree on this, it isn't their lookout either. There would be juniors at the Sr. chambers, who would have gotten in, long before you would've completed law. If you are fortunate enough to land a decent chamber, you'd get a lifelong mentor, who MAY want you to do well in life, and would PROBABLY let you have access to a small share in the resources at their disposal, including networks, briefs, material resources such as libraries. They could CONSIDER sharing some of their experience related wisdom with you. Please don't be under the impression however that the struggle ends on joining the Sr. Adv. If at all, one tends to get into a far more complex and competitive setting.

If criteria is fetching a job, three of them can be ranked as follows:

JGLS

NMIMS

Christ

If criteria is learning, Christ could be above NM.

Frankly JGLS is no comparison to any of the colleges given above.

It's top ranked private law college in the country and only fair to compare with top 5 NLUs or Symbiosis Pune.

I suggest AZB. Better pay, better work. Work culture isn’t great anywhere. Plus Bombay isn’t the gas chamber Delhi is, for all its other issues.

I don’t think either firm will give an offer on 1 internship. So from a hiring POV also you might have a better shot at AZB since they aren’t known to give PPOs. If you do well at your internship, they will make note of it and you’ll have a small advantage on Day 0 over other candidates. Also, if the pool system is still there at AZB then you’ll benefit from the diversity of experience early on although it might add to your workload. As for rank-centric, there’s basically Big Z and everyone else.

I'll be honest — you're not likely to get a job that allows you to earn back the cost of your college fee in even 3-4 years. Most people who get jobs in these colleges get them despite being in these colleges, by virtue of having contacts + being at the top of their class.

In fact, campus placement barely happens in colleges ranked below NLUO, and even the most promising students often have to perform extremely well in the multiple internships that firms force these students to undertake simply because they're from lower ranked colleges like the ones mentioned above.

So if you want a fair chance at getting a decent job, my simple advice would be to take a drop year and prepare for CLAT again. Otherwise, JGLS is a marginally better option.

Exactly...since the UGC net is held twice a year...why can't PhDs be held twice a year ? Since once the coursework is done.. it ultimately depends on the candidates whether they want to submit within 3 years or 6...moreover since every institution only takes 5-6 candidates...why can't they make it twice a year ... it's so frustrating!!!!

Not really. Of course, certain specific research may need such facility, however, most of the law and psychology research output that have been published in India involved empirical research involving teams and funding, but not special lab facilities. Libraries having decent stats software like SPSS, good database and functional computer systems are enough.

It's alright kid. Apply to chambers of independent practitioners or those running very small offices. Start with the groundwork. See how files are prepared, drafted, how research is done, and how filings are done. Once you've done 2-3 internships on this level, move up to a bigger office. Small firms also take you once you've done some basic internships. Then move up the ladder for T4-5 firms and then to bigger ones. Talk to your seniors and apply to some place having a good mentor who teaches you instead of making you a coolie or a clerk. One step at a time kid. All the best.

I don't know about other high court. The Kar HC is dominated by B gang. It is so blatant.

The Indian judiciary is one of worst service providers in the world. I respect politicans. Atleast they need to win people's mandate in 5 years. More often than not, Judges in HC come from few families who think it is their birth right. I really think govt should step in and do away this farcical collegium system.

Well it is a rant.... but I feel so light typing it out on LI. Admin, go ahead and censor it (:

Thanks for the outlet

If you wanna have a jump start at litigation you should consider signing articles. Even tho you don't give the exam, you will have your basics clear.

I have had seniors who are solicitors, who have done clerkship and also who haven't done either. The latter also were very competent and has a good knowledge of the law, but could see the experience in the former two. In their understanding of law, their comprehension, and I was always very impressed by their drafting skills. That language and command over arguments amd flow can come from Articled Clerkship sooner.

But, tbh this only exists in Bombay Law Circle. It's a very close knit group. Clerks are exploited for three years with long hours and minimum stipend. It's hell, you won't be able to enjoy law school much.

AZB - Tier I (whether you join Mr. Parikh or Mr. Parekh, you will be sorted- both are smart, knowledgeable, dedicated and most importantly, grounded). Not sure about how much AZB pays though.

DVA (Dhaval’s team) and DSK (Sajit/Sagar’s team) - Tier II have a decent RE practice too. Pay is in the range of 1-1.4 lakh if you’re an SA

Does struggle ENDS when you join a designated Sr Adv ? Or does it Start ?

In other words, once you join a good Sr Adv - does it helps you settle down in life ? Do they give you matters , try to build your practise and life and pay you ?!

A wild thought had appeared. A wild thought.

NLS students will give you eyeballs and judge you if we think that you don't have the core knowledge. We get to know whether you are faffing or not right from 2nd year onwards (as in whether you really are authority on it or was given the subject to teach because no one else was there). A lot of us also want that you should be eloquent. There is a difference between a scholar and teacher at the end of the day though it seems like most in the university admin don't go by this. And yes most of us (currently in fifth year) are frustrated as to how we are taught so much of jurisprudence and hardly any black letter law. We had 2 courses on jurisprudence,the second course was statutory interpretation but Sudhir made it to juris, half of tax law was just jurisprudence on tax, crim law 1 was entirely jurisprudence on corporate crimes, LPD (subject itself is irrelevant) and even ethics was jurisprudence. However, most of us don't mind all this as long as you go easy on us in grades. But to be a Rockstar teacher like RS in corp law (though he isn't eloquent) you need to know inside out of the course, don't give bt wrt attendance and make a paper which everyone passes. And yeah some cringe people get offended by politically incorrect stuff.....most of us don't care, some us of will agree with what you said but won't stand with you when the woke will call you out because of fear of getting cancelled.

My client had me working non-stop for over 10 days on a 100-page NCLT Oppression and Mismanagement Petition (which is being filed by another lawyer), and I billed him INR 2 lakhs for the work. This client and I must have clocked at least 7 all-nighters together- to pull this off. I also handled another case, got a good order, and charged 35K. Despite daily legal advice calls (which come to this date), I've only been reimbursed expenses and received 20K last Saturday for my services. Have been short-paid by over INR 2.10 Lakhs. It's demoralizing. How do I talk to my neighbor-client about this, and keep things friendly?

I am a 4th Yr BBA LLB law student a first gen lawyer
I need help in following things

1. Most of the internship done in courts
2. I don't like litigation
3. I want to go to the corporate side of law
4. There are so many options and I am confused which one to choose
5. I want to secure an assessment internship or PPO before college ends

Please guide me through this difficult situation.

Thanks

I am a studentof Batch of 2024, no jobs oppourtunites in our college( newly ested). Have interned in Tier 1,2,3 shortlisted in this internship through Merit and based on my CV.

Considering litigation a big NO in my initial years, tired og reaching out to people on LinkedIN...

What to do??

Stay away at all costs unless you come from a family of lawyers or are someone who has way more contacts than required to start a practice or get placed with a good firm. If not, please stay away at all costs. It might have been worth considering up until a few years back but right now there's nothing worth spending a good chunk of your money on.

NO NOTABLE FACULTY, NO INFRA, and quite honestly, a Symbi college outside Pune is not worth anything.P.S. Even if you have good contacts to get at a headstart in your career or come from a family of lawyers, going to a good college or even a half-decent one would do but please stay away from SLS-N.

(1) joining small litigation firms in Delhi with a usual team of 5-10 associates. They are essentially a chamber but stylized as Firm

(2) Joining a chamber of non-designated senior in Delhi HC

(3) Joining Designated sr adv in Delhi HC

My Goal:-

(1) I dont come from a lot of money. No contacts and network in Delhi

(2) I expect reasonable olayment to survive and save

(3) my end goal is to hecome RR/GSanks and roll in a lot of money while getting joy of arguing.

(4) I am non- NLU

(5) 🌝

We discuss a lot about good advocates who practice before Supreme Court and Delhi High Court. Occasionally only, names of some advocates at Bombay HC and Karnataka HC are highlighted in the threads of LI. Can we devote this thread for listing out good and well known seniors who have their practice focused in other HCs of the country.

This shall be of great help for juniors who look for joining chambers of advocates in their own states rather than moving out to other cities, especially selected few metro cities (Del, Bom, Bangalore).

We therefore need more info of seniors in Allahabad, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Kerala, West Bengal, Tamil Nadu and others.

In Delhi, there is no such club of exclusives. If you have a good enough case, no one will do whatever is mentioned in the comment. However, there is most certainly a preferred group of lawyers for every tier of litigation who will be seen more often than others for reasons including but not limited to seniority, socio-political influence, merit in no particular order.

Life's success isn't just about luck; it's akin to a chemical reaction. Much like altering ingredients changes the outcome, tweaking your appearance, communication style, and overall demeanor can significantly impact your success as an advocate. Remember, presenting yourself effectively is a dynamic process, much like finding the right balance in a scientific equation.

Hi, I am an experienced professional and looking to expand my professional circle. I can not do that on Linkedin because Linkedin is highly formal and sophisticated. I want to discuss with mature people who have several years of work experience in industry. Again, we can not do that on legallyindia because this website is full of misinformation and trollers !

Any other Forum or website ?

Bhabna Das has graduated from NLSIU and was a junior to Ms. Meenakshi Arora, Sr. Adv.

Had the privilege to brief Meenakshi ma’am for a matter and came across Bhabna ma’am as well. Bhabna ma’am has an amazing grasp of legal concepts and a vast knowledge pool. We won the matter and Bhabna ma’am made me an admirer of hers, for life.

Word on the street is that TP has just landed some massive mandates in his short stint at Tri. He’s hustling like a beast and working his charm! His team is definitely going to expand in the next couple of months. So far no negative reviews of him - his team always seems to be in a happy mood - go figure.

I’ve moved seats just to get a peek at him everyday and oh boy what a sight! Haters gonna hate but the girlies of Tri send their blessings to the MC for poaching him!

This article doesn't talk much about why such a drastic action was taken against Paytm. It just feels like a naive rant against RBI. What does RBI regs stunting big tech cos' payment initiatives, got to do with Paytm's current situation.

Anyways I expected some law firmites working on the Paytm matter would spill some tea here.

The toxicity and work-life balance is bad everywhere, in tier-1s you will at least have a decent standard of living, a good office, people pretending to be professional and a namesake HR, something you dont find in boutique firms or chambers. I suspect that the criticism of Tier 1s on LI is just a way to reduce competition.

My parents and family is really sweet. Past 2 years they became miserable and is forcing me to get married. I don't have a boyfriend. So arranged marriage is the way out. Without my consent they even started a matrimony account. How do I manage them? Our relationship has strained due to this single issue.