Second this.

You can't find out who's who by sitting at home on a computer. The good ones have to be approached after seeing them in court. Young upcoming first gen lawyers are most likely to make good bosses and mentors because they know the struggles themselves. Don't give up. Make it a goal to start independent practice as quickly as possible. You can achieve financial independence in 2 years of independent practice. There is always room for young lawyers who can undercut older ones on fees.

Family support. Would not be possible without it.

Chamber didnt pay anything, so needed pocket money to survive. Luckily, I studied at non NLU and fees were dirt cheap.. you wouldn't believe it if I told you. Parents gave pocket money and said work hard. Felt ashamed but had no choice. Rather be ashamed of taking family support for some time than to be verbally abused by people at the office (experienced this at a renowned firm where I trained before choosing litigation)

Worked at chamber with almost no pay but understood basics of litigation quickly. My boss gave me responsibilities of arguing, negotiating, police station visits, and even cross examination right from the beginning.

Started independent practice. Became financially independent within 3 years. So total of 4 years of family support needed.

Today, 10+ years l

This admin has considerable experience in embarrassing itself before the public and the court. NLAT, plagiarism case, charging for virtual convocation, keeping matters away from the Academic Council and feigning ignorance about existing rules, not releasing full rank list for CLAT, the list goes on. I don't think any previous NLS admin has had such a chequered record in such a short time.

Only confirmed information and important info to put in public domain (please don’t censor this, no valid read on)

1. ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ complaint filed against VC

2. Its not by a student but by a ▮▮▮ faculty member ▮▮▮

3. Faculty member ▮▮▮

Currently the rumour spread by this thread is that a law student has filed said complaint which is not true

Let the truth prevail

This comment is not disclosing any identity of alleged victim so there is no legal reason to censor this

The key to the movie is the song P.I.MP. by 50 cent. Quoting from an article:

“P.I.M.P.” becomes a key part of the investigation and subsequent trial. Prosecutors interrogate Sandra about the song’s maddeningly loud volume and famously misogynist lyrics, and whether those could have provoked her to murder Samuel, who may have been jealous of her seemingly flirtatious interaction with the student.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2023/10/27/anatomy-of-a-fall-movie-interviews/71310424007/

Leave it. It wouldn't even matter in longer run. Instead use this time to write some really good articles and focus on good publications.

Good publications in CV>>>>> FICCI internship.

Identify your area of interest, write articles on them. This will also help you to network. You can reach out to practitioner like partners,share your article and demonstrate your interest

Nlu grad here (Batch 2021). Recently cleared Sebi Grade A exam and will be joining the same. Was preparing for both general and legal streams.

Confused whether to continue in Sebi or try and give the RBI General Grade B.

Would like your opinion on the same.

Specifically in context of scope for professional and Personal development and opportunities available in both in the future.

Pay difference is not a major issue for me.

Opinions may vary from person to person. Those who will never clear this exam or those who know that they are incompetent to clear, will always hate this exam. This course provides knowledge which LLB cannot. If people were to become lawyers through this exam, half of the lawyers would vanish as they would never clear. Don't ask any random person how the course is. Always ask a solicitor about the benefits of this exam in person, he/she might be able to help you better. Be careful about taking your opinions from unknowns.

I recently started an internship at the FICCI IPR division (pretty end moment decision to intern). I am in my 3rd year as of now.

I knew the work would revolve around mainly just researching however the only work they seem interested in giving is creating social media posts and designing them. Honestly, this seems very much of a waste of my time. I am really confused, should I leave this internship or do I keep doing it ?

Applied in June'23 through their website portal for an August'23 slot in Mumbai's General Corporate team and the HR called me like two days before August'23 for a slot in Mumbai's Disputes/Lit team (which I rejected since Disputes was never my preference and I ended up interning at SAMVAD, Mumbai's General Corporate team in the said month). That being said, applying through the website portal probably works but the selection process was quite random in my experience.

1. Christ, Bangalore
2. JGLS

3. NMIMS Mumbai

4. SLS Noida

5. Amity Delhi

6. Rizvi

7. DY Patil

for the bottom 5, the probability of landing a job through placements is close 0, ive just ranked them in terms of which one is closer to 0

Any decision that a student finds problematic, they may move the court or social media. Does that mean the university should just say yes to every student demand? Whether the admin is right or wrong is not for random people to decide, let the lawful authorities take that call.

Assam has been given a long time without any achievement of its own. Compared to that, Meghalaya is off to a much better start with a better VC than any other NE NLU. Tripura has also started very soon. However, NLUO is a good option if one doesn't get the top NLUs. Better than any central university.

CLAT has higher application fee. So does NLUD for AILET. Until all the NLUs are compelled to have a common application process or lose the right to be called an NLU, these things are going to continue. From what has been known about NLUM, the new VC does seem to be making a decent start with new curriculum, industry connect, focus on research and generous support from the High Court and the state government. However, it is too early to pronounce any judgement, at least until the first batch graduates. The lack of alumni would mean that they cannot expect good placement in the initial years. Even NLUD didn't, despite all its advantages, but it quickly got better. That will be the test, how soon can NLUM improve itself and its graduate outcome. The locational disadvantage has to be offset.

If you don't have an institution that can provide you with the adequate resources then the advisor doesn't matter. Imagine joining a known advisor and your university doesn't even have an updated library or newest lab. Moreover if your advisor is really well known, they may not always be hands on with you because of time paucity. Best is to find a great institution first and then a above average advisor in it. Law is a field where you can easily mold the reaserch within your interest. It's not divided strictly like sciences are.

SC must issue Caste Certificate, but reservations in Education Dept must be claimed after verification of both parents employment status+income+everything checked in ews issuance. If a reserved category student qualifies everything, then only he/she must be issued a separate "Educational Reservation ST/SC/OBC Certificate" else the merit in reservation is nuisance.

Same here, my friend has caste certificate through which she/he got in nlsiu. Her/his parents are doctors and lawyers, go on fancy trips, spend even more than my family on recreation, paid for high coaching fee for just hardly 5 months, he/she had full capacity and also resources to compete with me or other friends in my general category. But that didn't happen. With a poor rank and bullish caste certificate she/he got in without any hazard.

But it’s more like a graph. Both matter because a good institution offers more mentorship than just your advisor. You can learn from the whole community although some people choose not to. It is a combination. Also remember that all good scholars are not good mentors. Find someone who will care about you, support you during your defence and recommend you.

It's been quite some time since that resignation went viral. It's been quite some time since the young lawyer left the firm. He's still looking out for another opportunity.

As another young lawyer who was heavily targeted by ex-AJIBII trio partners who have been in all equity firm since five years, is the world really so cruel? Is there no justice? People in power can do anything to us at any point of time and get away with it.

Lesson to be learned: NEVER underestimate the evil in people. We will never defeat the system. It's rigged and designed to make the powerful even more powerful.

LI, review on NLU Meg, they've an exorbitant application fee of 3K, and further just 30 seats purely for General Category, would it be useful to join a new institution? Can a few current students pitch in? Moreover, what dreads me the cancellation of test centers due to low student count, did it happen last year? Anyone who appeared for Meg UAT, can you give an approx count of how many students appeared last year to attempt, and what was the highest score? Some info guys..........

Whenever you are interning, keep a copy of your note on research proposition or just keep a copy of your deliverable with you. It'll be veryyyyy helpful when you prepare for interviews.

(For context I'm currently preparing for an interview, lost all data in my laptop a while back and finding it difficult to revisit all the propositions in depth) :((

Go through this analysis from Medianama founder Nikhil Pahwa, much of your doubts will be cleared- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Qn5pCFn5JlfVOE9Txj6DmgfLJALST9Jl9eEraR7NWAc/edit

Thank me later, and ofcourse Nikhil.

Ummm...no. YP's supervisor is not a well known name in the field. He did it from CUSAT for personal reasons. Also most of his work is already well known even before he did his PhD. His supervisor had no role, he was brilliant scholar even before he started his PhD.

OP focus on the top 10 universities. At the end of the day, India does not have stellar advisors. Most of the best are abroad and they do not have the luxury of taking in 100 doctoral candidates. So unless you have a stellar record, the advisor you will receive will be mid- at best. So ultimately the institution matters. Especially if you want to start an academic career. Rest, your own career and connection will be built on the research that yoh produce post PhD.

Also the ripped apart by external or RAC is BS ! In the end you will always know more about your research area than your advisor. Your advisor is only there to help you with the modes of research and not with the actual content. So whether you will be ripped apart or not will depend on how well you researched your topic. All the best.

1. Law school curriculum is focused on questioning, debunking, critical analysis etc - not really doing something with your hands - that requires a very different kind of thinking

2. The heroes in law schools are corp lawyers- not entrepreneurs. NUJS had a bunch of entrepreneurs- perhaps it is contagious in some ways.

3. The more the folklore of successful entrepreneurs spread, more you will see people opt for start-ups.

4. to build a start-up, you need to be good at at least one of these things: sales, marketing, coding, raising investments. do you think law schools prepare you for any of these things?

5. Now think of an IIT. All their heroes are Entrepreneurs or investors. You will not see this disdain for Entrepreneurs

You are just jealous of them

Lawsikho is a 500 cr market cap listed company

Tanuj, Sammanika - they all have bootstrapped their way to serving people in a meaningful way

You don’t have to shit on people who are more successful than you because you cannot do it

NLS alum here. Take the hostel option - it's a no brainer. You can consider moving back home after the first year, or if you're desperate after the first trimester. If you're truly desperate, take a room and go back every weekend or something.

Not because of academics - you can manage that easily from home. But the relationships and friendships that will support you for the rest of your life - the memories of law school - are formed in the hostel. I cannot emphasize this enough.

Being in a hostel and having to adjust to roommates and handle less than perfect toilets you have to share etc is also a good life skill to learn - think of it as an introduction to the real world outside the protection of your parents' home - you're probably 18 now, it's a good time to start being independent.

Its a trade off. You might be able to more effectively focus and study at home. But law school at the undergrad level is also about building connections. Im ten years out of law school- my batch mates are professors and partners and in house counsel and successful litigators. I've eaten with these people and studied with them and spent time in their rooms and know about their hobbies and their troubles. Not all of them remain in touch- but once youve spent five years living with a bunch of people- you will always be able to pick up where you left off. I can call any one of them and ask for a favor- but if I were a day scholar- they would be less inclined to help me.

Please take the hostel option. I'm a current student; and the campus life is quite good, provided you make some friends. The 'annoying roommate' trope is overstated - most people at NLS are unique and multifaceted, and you would do well to have them. Make sure you stay in campus : )

Hi, I am in talk with a Sr Adv at Bombay HC. The Sr gave me no. of his junior to talk and kept silent after that.

I spoke to his junior and he told me that he will get me in touch with someone as same native place as mine i.e. nagpur. He also told me that I dont take this as him politely rejecting me.

However I am not sure whether this is a polite rejection , gatekeeping or genuine help from that junior. Should I mail Sr Adv again ? How to know true intentions of this junior ?

Please give your review on the selection process for the Internship.

I'm in my 2nd year (by the time of Internship I'll finish) and applied there, what are the chances if getting confirmation.

Additionally, after how many days of application you got confirmation.

And also, Any tips?

I hope you consider it writing.

There are only couple of good faculty. A impressive CV of faculty doesn't reflect quality of University alone. Majority of faculty have left since I have joined there, not many faculty who stayed here for 5+ years.

Prons:Good library, campus, course outline and program, law centres.

Cons: pathetic placement and internship cell, no alumini network, faculty and placement cell.

If you wanna chill and get law degree it's a good place. If you are someone serious about studies and wants to start working after studies it's not recommended.

When you are assuming that Ezhavas weren't discriminated due to the nature of the occupation its you who seem to be behaving as the privileged one. Ezhavas were denigrated for being in field of toddy tapping (aka extracting fermented liquor from coconut trees). And even of certain other subsidiary proffesions followed by some women of the community out of compulsion(traced back to caste oppression) especially in coastal areas.

The label of the former has seen Ezhavas being denied temple entry, access to Savarna villages, etc along with being not allowed to state services like army, medical, etc in past. The occupation based slurs like "chethukaran" and "kotti" is still used today even for a CM from Ezhava community.

Non-NLU guy here who shifted to corporate and managed to get a corp job at a 'sought after' firm. Your disdain towards NLUs is misdirected. Firstly, the world is pretty big and there are some amazing people out there irrespective of the NLU or Non-NLU tag. You are barely into the first year of your college life so please save your judgments about the quality of students in a certain institution. You have barely met any and believe me, these elite colleges are elites because they do pack some punch.

NLUs glorify corporates because that is how they justify the ROI, and its fine. When you spend a ton of money to get your ticket at a premier institution, you also need to make the most out of that opportunity and make it a worthwhile investment. That said, there are plenty of kids from the top 6-7 NLUs that have cracked LLMs and MBAs at prestigious universities or have forayed into UPSC and the likes. Look them up, they are plenty and you will be amazed with the level of talent they have.

Secondly, your pursuit of practical knowledge is commendable but the same gets easier when you know what you are looking for in your 'hit and trial' method. No lawyer, irrespective of their alma mater, will ever deny the importance of a thorough and comprehensive understanding that stokes critical thinking. If they do, they are not good lawyers to begin with and you should steer clear of them.

Your idea that litigators are looked down upon is also not the right one. Litigation as a practice is very hostile for newcomers and most of the law grads who decide to pursue it do anything and everything in their power to just survive the onslaught of imbecile and pathetic seniors. Also, please tell me what type of service to society are you doing when your senior keeps deferring the matter on the pretext that it is a fresh matter or for other flimsy reasons.

The average NLU rage is so outlandish. The graduates of any law college are destined for greatness provided they have the substance for it. But you cannot downplay the importance of an institution that hones talents, makes sure that avenues are made available for their students to grow and provides the best education by Indian standards. It is not impossible to do good without all of these but it's hard.

Regards,

A graduate from an absolutely pathetic college who got into T1.

In a PhD, your institution comes second and your advisor comes first, generally. Exception would be if you are doing it from Yale/Oxbridge/Harvard. If your supervisor has 0 idea about your topic, there are chances that you'd be ripped apart by external examiners or members of your research advisory committee. Your supervisor, if s/he's well connected, can introduce you to experts in the field and other academics. I'll give you an example. One of the most prominent faculty at NLUD has a PhD not from NLS or Yale, but from ▮▮▮. Why? Because the supervisor was a well known name in the field.

I am a glc graduate and I understand what you are saying. But if you just look at the positives of all that free time. Instead of working about being unemployed take proactive steps so that you become more employable. Intern full-time, get enrolled in another professional course, be it CS, CA, ACCA. GLC gives you much opportunity to explore fields aside from law as well, try getting internship at a bank or a media firm or perhaps a political consultancy. If you just keep stressing about being unemployed and sit in your room after college, it will just get worse, brother. I understand GLC doesn’t have much of college campus life, but there are tons of events/lectures/ debate practices going on where you get to meet so many people.

It’s a different type of college where honestly you’ll only get what you what you are willing to work for. You can either choose to crib and not use your free time productively or you can start working for your future. Once you start working even chilling at marines/BK will seem fun to you.