Currently in the Practice Development team of a law firm in a Tier 1 city. Would prefer moving to Delhi due to some personal reasons. I have an interview with Bharucha Delhi.

Ik Bharucha is known to be a toxic place but wanted to understand if its bearable enough for a year or two. I don't plan on being at the firm for a long time anyways.

Insights on payscale would also be super helpful.

Certainly! Here's a more conversational versi

Hey

I'm currently in my fourth year of college soon entering into 5th yr. I could really use some guidance regarding internships and landing a Pre-Placement Offer (PPO).

Being from a Tier 3 NLU and a small city background, I've been diving into different internships to learn and grow. However, I'm at a bit of a crossroads and could use some help figuring out how to turn these internships into a solid PPO opportunity.

I know how important networking and mentorship are, but unfortunately, I don't have someone to guide me through this journey. So, I'm reaching out to see if any of you have any advice, insights, or even a bit of mentorship to offer. Maybe you've been through similar challenges during your college days or know someone who has.

Any support would mean a lot to me as I'm putting in a lot of effort to shine in my internships and make the most of every chance I get. Any help or advice you can share would be awesome.

What should I do in this upcoming year, how should I proceed to secure any good opportunity.

Thanks a ton for taking the time to read this. Don't troll pls.

It is a known fact that GNLU and NUJS both are the fastest growing NLUs in the entire country. While GNLU has seen tremendous growth in the last few years, NUJS has also kept pace. Only both these NLUs look likely to challenge the present hegemony of NLS and NALSAR at the top. Why are other T-1 NLUs not being able to keep up with the growth pace of GNLU and NUJS?

Go for NALSAR. I tell this to as many people as possible to steer away from NUJS. The mental trauma the place brings, it’s unparalleled. The hostel facilities are just horrifying (no AC in a heated humid weather like Kolkata), useless SJA and growingly so, no quality of professors post 2nd year (which is if you’re considering the luckiest side of the spectrum), and trash culture. Being in the city means nothing when the college is so immersive you barely get to go out. I think NALSAR is a far better brand and NUJS honestly gives more trauma than anything else. All the best with what you do!

Don't be concerned. NLUs are by character VC-centric institutions. If the VC changes for the worse, then they see exoduses or lack of better new recruitments. As such, these institutions boom and bust cycles.

NALSAR and NUJS are suffering through one now. For NALSAR it is more recent with FM only just out of the door, for NUJS it has been a while since they had a good VC.

Do not for a moment think that NLS is exempt for such cycles. The decade of Venkata Rao is well documented on LI itself. In fact, Sidharth Chatham, whose imminent departure is causing a lot of these reflections on faculty at NALSAR, had left NLS on concerns of academic future of the place under that leadership.

Also, do note that having a decade of poor leadership has not caused the recruitment outputs of NUJS to suffer. Similarly, NLS' recruitments did not suffer under Venkata Rao. Nor will NALSAR's with KDR.

All of these institutions (plus NLUJ, NLUD, and to a lesser extent NLIU and GNLU) have built enough of a brand for themselves with the legal industry. This brand was built on the backs of student recruits being able to churn out two/three years of back-breaking and soul-sucking work. It wasn't built on the outstanding academic literature being produced by the faculty members.

Therefore, my advice to all - current students in these places, and prospectives students who will pick one of them - would be to keep following the time tested rank order profile of NLS, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUD, NLUJ, GNLU, NLIU. You do this and you shall be fine.

Lol, "least racist countries"? These nations have a history of discrimination that's downright dehumanizing. But this is the problem with Indians. People like you will overlook any indignity and rationalize your position to live in the developed world and you'll claim India is just as racist. And I've travelled to more countries than you have. There is no external discrimination in the urban areas that most of you migrate to, but let's see you go and convince some country-side white folks to accept you as one of them. It's never happening. And don't just generalize this as "patriotism", you're the one desperately trying to leave behind your identity and become someone you're not.

With your same second-rate logic, regionalism or casteism isn't as normalised in urban India either. Perhaps you should go to some of the more rural parts of Europe and see what everyone really thinks of Indians or any black/brown folks. And Europe has a history of racism, they're accepting of you only because you have some economic value for them. You'll never be one of them although Indians like you are try-hards if nothing else. Hats off for your pathetic efforts to ingratiate.

The problem is there is NO transparency. Plus the government also gave orders to temples to not screen the Ram Mandir (and no, this isn't fake news spread by Nirmala—these headlines made the news in local newspaper talking about the ban in a positive light, hours before she posted it) keep in mind that independent media in TN is truly farcical. dmk owns a large stake in the hindu, toi and pretty much every state media outlet.

Nah. NRI Indians are Indians in general are sheeit at PR, controlling poverty-porn enthusiasts, lobbying, etc. It's not a small number of loud racists (I.e Wignats) alone. Its even white leftists, white liberals, the Islamic Ummah (that's because of Indian public love towards Isreal), Wumaos, and even Indonesians and other SEA members recently. Only ones left to hate on Indians are certian groups of Non-anglophilic countries.

Asking people whether you are racist is not a method to determine racism lol. Indians don't even have the artificial concept of race. What causes high scores there is colorist misinterpret as racism.

And regarding low rates among NA and WE its a farce, they have the most racism against other counties. Even the concept of race originated from these regions. In offline world they have to put up with the farce of tolerance to avoid being canceled globally

Hi, I have to work on one query on which cannot find a definitive answer.

Query- There is a property recieved through a will and same has gone in sale can the consideration amount for selling the property be directly transferred in another person bank account ( Account of Wife's or children of owner of property )

1. I never said I am Tier 1 law student. I wrote - "Clap clap clap. And I am a tier 1 law student." I wrote this in jest as in waah, I am studying in a good law school, but, still have no clue about how the world works.

Ab sarcasm ka sign dikhana parega kya Sheldon ko?

2.I don't have the slightest feelings of attachment to "motherland." - The market rate is whatever JGLS charges it's students. So, please do us a favour and give back Karnataka's and Govt of India's money. Woh toh donate/return nahi karengi aap. Paisa ki baat aa jae toh sab hawabazi nikal jati hai.

3. "If we are to judge nations by similar yardsticks, then India too has its fair share of crimes on its plate" - GPT it and enlighten us which countries have been colonized and exploited in the same way British and French have exploited her colonies, by the Indian military in the last 500y. And if we go on talking about crimes, all militaries have committed crimes.

4. "Besides, it's not that the current-day French Army is actively colonising other nations." -

Har baat pe Tier 1 Tier 1 NLU likhne walo, googlaiya toh liya kijiye kam se kam.

Yeh kya hai - https://jacobin.com/2023/12/france-africa-empire-neocolonialism-domestic-far-right-repression-elites

5. "I don't get your triggered 'anti-SJW' comment about the US military," - I meant no matter how much we try to ape the west, our geopolitical situation is different from them. We cannot put our shield down and invoke DEI measures because we are in an extremely nuclear and hostile environment (unlike the USA which has sleepy Canada and Europe, which has a weak Russia). We have ruthless Pakistanis and Chinese on our throat, hence, we need to be extra vigilant, extra strict and extra battle ready at all times. Varna aapke Dharmo Rakshati Rakshitah of NLS ka Drum baj jaega.

How did you not understand this line of argument?

6. "You too will most likely sell your soul to an exploitative law firm to make money." - Nowhere in my long comment have I mentioned that one should not sell their souls to anyone. Selling soul to a corporation which exploits loopholes in taxation, exploits natural resources and destroys livelihood of tribals is something, every "Do no evil" company of the world does.

Yaha pe baat specifically ek foreign military ke liye hathiyar uthane ki ho rahi hai because "I am bored, I need thrill and adventure." Most in their right minds won't do that.

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Reading your replies, what I gather is for all answers, you somehow bring - Law firm, law firm into the picture. The world is extremely big than your Lala law firms. Baat ho rahi hai patriotism ki, military ki, AZB, CAM kaha se aa gya ispe? I thought har baat pe bina puche hue (no one asked you if you were in Tier 1, but, you specifically mentioned it), Tier 1 Tier 1 chillane wale, kam se kam argument toh accha dete.

Sawaal hai is CLAT tougher than JEE aapka reply hai Law firm Law firm. (Again this is not a question, this is an example of your non conjoined ulta pulta arguments).

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As I earlier stated, don't do anything to help this country. Evade tax, enjoy. Exploit the loopholes. Help yourself. Be selfish. Just don't do anything which in anyway physically hurt people here.

People have been cribbing out low salaries/retainer in law firms especially in the initial years, however what we really should be cribbing about is lack of knowledge/awareness about the annual revenue/turnover of the big firms. People who are part of the inner-circle at these firms are very conveniently leaving out to provide this information as a result the juniors are just working on and on for infinite numbers of hours thinking they are minting gold. High time the juniors are made aware of what the higher ups are making or taking home at the end of the year so that we can start to have a meaningful discussion about fair pay at law firms.

I am from Bihar. Hot bed of everything wrong in India. Casteism, lowest rank in all NITI Aayog SDG indicators, sons born to serve as low class labourers in Bangalore and Mumbai, still people support our Social justice Kings - Lalu and Nitish.

A girl I knew told me Bhaiya I bought a scooty because I wanted to live. It had become difficult for me to ride shared autos. So much sexual harrassment at every point. I even wondered most days whether I will return back home. So, I forced my parents to buy me a scooty so that I can come to coaching. This girl is preparing for BPSC (Bihar State Services).

See, I could have not told you this story. And given gyan on how the Mauryas united India, how the National Emblem is of Ashoka, how he spread Dhamma etc. But, this reality is the truth of today's Bihar.

If this girl tells me, I want to emigrate to USA/Europe because India has failed me, I can understand. If she tells me I will never come back to India and I hate this nation, I can understand. Even if she says, there is an opening in US military and I need to get out of India and earn money even if means doing something against India's interest, I can understand. But, I am 100% sure, never in her head, this idiotic, dumb idea came that I will join the Military of some other country, because, "I am feeling bored and need adventure and thrill., that too living in a comparatively safer city of Bangalore in subsidised Govt. college."

This is my problem. This hatred and indifference which these woke NLU and Ashoka kids develop towards India.

If a labourer from Bihar, with no hopes of any job or help from the Bihar or the Central Govt would have said, I want to get a job in UAE army, I would have still understood. But, look at your societal position.

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If such thought are entering your brain, there is something wrong with our education system. The world is a bigger place than your Law firms yar. Har baat pe Law Firm, Law firm. How much tunnel vision people develop I fail to understand.

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Hi Guys really need your practical advise. I am a CS with 15+ of years of experience, have a good nac of legal and interpretation skills. I have been offered a senior post at a good law firm in the Capital Markets team. Want to know how is the pressure in CM teams as a senior and would you advise joining it, considering long term perspective. Some on the ground advise plz..Thanks in advance.

theres a big difference between those who would say they dont want a job in the first year of law school and those who would cope with rejection by saying they dont need jobs anyway and they will handle their papas business. youre making assertions without proof - without even a possible way to prove them.

Have you done your Corp law course? Revise your notes or a standard commentary and be up to date with the case laws. Ditto for the competition act especially the part on regulation of combinations. Some familiarity with SEBI takeover and listing regulations will also be useful. What you need will depend on the exact work that you give but these are basics that you should be prepared for.

Before calling out someone else. Check your naivety first and your facts as well.

In India, Part time PhD is only for people with an employment and a NOC from their employer, and it's clearly mentioned in the university website that it's a part time PhD. Full time PhD means no employment except TA or RA within the university. Also, most may be allowed to be asst. Prof if allowed by the university. The list of both part-time & fulltime is submitted to UGC. The reason why is primarily because part time PhDs are not entitled to stipend. Full time PhDs have a right to stipend especially from the university if they're not JRF qualified. That's why JNU pays 8k per month, whereas Tezpur University pays 40k, only to full-time PhDs.

Abroad, every PhD is a part time PhD, including online PhDs, which are not acceptable in India.

I seriously believe, Law should only be taught in the top 30 universities, one in each state & UT like Chandigarh and Delhi. They should be named NLUs, each affiliated to UGC and under supervision of state HCs, given national importance & with VC being a former NLU alumni (LLB, LLM, PhD included). All private law universities should be shut down.

I have been working in the Gen Corp team of a firm since June last year. Have gotten an offer from the dispute resolution team of another law firm, and will be joining in April. Since the work was purely transactional, I hadn't enrolled with the State Bar Council. Is it fine if I get enrolled within 1-1.5 months of joining the Disputes team, since enrollment takes some time.

I don't know why the downvotes, Cambridge is quite popular for this, even Amity toppers and rando non-law college toppers consistently make it to Cambridge. It is limited to Cambridge, Oxford also does it to some degree.

This is not to take away from anyone's achievement, to be a topper in top NLUs based on my experience you have to work really hard, especially for those Top 5 ranks.

The myth about the majority of JGLS grads not getting jobs needs to be busted. The majority of Jindal grads don’t NEED jobs and don’t look for jobs. They are children of fabulously wealthy lawyers and businessmen who simply join their dad’s practice or business. There are so many examples I can give, from the children of ministers to Senior Advocates to law firm owners to CEOs. You people have no idea!! The who’s who of India send their children here.

As someone who has worked there, I would highly recommend against joining ITC. The pay hike in the subsequent years joining doesn’t even match inflation and the work culture is extremely toxic. Not one person will ever tell you that they have liked working there. But if you’re set on joining then please make sure that you reduce the variable component cause even though it’s 20 lakhs while you join the amount you get after taxes is just 85K. All things considered, for skill development, better mental health and better pay, please do some research on good law firm teams

I simply don't get it. No one compels you to go work a law firm. You make that choice. Both lit and transactional work tend to be time bound. maybe not always, but a lot of times. There are deadlines that HAVE to be met. You have to put in the hours to get the work done. And if you expect to be paid 18-22 lakhs per year, you NEED TO ALSO be able to pull your f*****g weight. A law firm is running a business at the end of the day. Its not charity.

In the same breath, toxic behaviour is not okay. But the words / terms like toxicity and mental health get thrown around soooooo loosely now, that when people who actually face genuine issues look like they're crying wolf.

Cry babies need to get their shit together.

It should not have been allowed, since the pool from other NLUs was not even considered at all (So no equal opportunity of employment). Also, as a junior at NLS, what I heard, since at NLS, some students who did not get placed in earlier recritment drives got their jackpot opened by getting placed at Maharatna. GAIL did not look for anything, except grades and that too relatively. So, good you did not do anything except for barely studying.

You ignoramus, I am not even from GNLU. Yet it is easy for anyone to realise that the only person lacking in humility or education in this conversation is yourself, who lacks the grace to give credit where it is due. Moreover, any person who considers an institution to be 'inferior' to another is not really educated, regardless of their credentials.

You mistook all the courses that had been stopped as "distance courses", which they were not. UGC was not giving any specific approval even to distance courses when those had started at NUJS anyway. I agree that once the UGC regulations came into effect, NUJS should have applied for approval for the iPleaders courses. Dillon's and other independent certificate and diploma courses run by NUJS were not distance courses and hence no separate approval was necessary other than EC approval. The EC under KD and Lord Taluk did not have the legal acumen or factual clarity to distinguish such points of fact or law, hence they jumped the gun and cut off valuable revenue sources of the university with their foolhardiness.

Dillon's was a diploma course for which the requisite classes were held on weekend physically. Hence it did not qualify as either online or distant course. The faculty coordinating the course did not wish to get into the ugly spat and mud-fight that had been happening back then, hence did not push the point or become part of the witch-hunt. Why would anyone good do that anyway, since it does not matter personally to them whether the university chooses to cut down its own revenue source and harm its reputation?

Regardless of what trolls may say here, you mat choose either of these two excellent institutions and if you work hard for the next five years, then you will easily do well in your chosen career path, be it corporate job, litigation, policy work, higher studies or anything else. Faculty-wise and admin-wise, both the places are comparable. NALSAR admin support and infra including hostel facilities will be better. NUJS is located in the middle of a city with all its amenities. Both the places will have good peer group and seniors to guide you if you can find them. Best of luck with your choice!

We have all seen how the college has been tilting rightward in recent months and how left-wing voices on campus have been silenced. We may be teenagers but we are not fools. We knew the gameplan all along. The VC must stop hiding and tell us if JGLS will henceforth guarantee FOE to voices critical of Modi and Hindutva. Also, if right-wing students who indulge in hooliganism will go unpunished.

Yes, keyword being past. One cannot be held accountable for the crimes of their ancestors. So many Indians have settled in the UK, a country that colonized Indians for 200 years, and now one has become their Prime Minister. Meanwhile, Italian-origin Sonia Gandhi was prevented from being the PM just because of her race. I'd rather care about what's happening presently than the past, and in the modern-day, Western countries have a much better sense of human rights than whatever there is in India.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/cong-vows-sc/st/obc-quota-in-private-higher-edu-institutes/amp_articleshow/108756817.cms

So they basically want a quota in places like BITS Pilani, Manipal, ISB, Ashoka, Jindal, Symbiosis, SP Jain etc.

Two obvious questions here:

1. Is it constitutionally valid to impose such a quota?

2. If an SC/ST/OBC candidate enters ISB or Jindal through quota, he or she will still have to pay the fees. If such a candidate can afford to pay 50 lakhs as fee, can he or she be considered backward? 🤔

Identity-based discrimination exists in India as well. Not of the right skin color and caste? You'll certainly face racism. Not a cis-het man? You'll definitely face discrimination throughout your life. As a woman, my life would be easier abroad. To the contrary, surveys have showed North American and West European nations to be among the least racist in the world, while India almost tops the chart. I am sure that it's you who has never been to a developed country, but still decided to drop an angry comment to prove your "patriotism."

https://www.theroot.com/the-worlds-most-and-least-racist-countries-1790896472

Stop playing the centrist card. It's a lot more than supporting incompetent politicians like Modi or Rahul. Just like how Jews can never be friends with literal Nazis, you can't be friends with people who demean your entire existence. Respect is always a two-way street.

Another issue is, India lacks real freedom of speech. Anyone who finds any opinion offensive is always like "muh report to P0LiC£." Blasphemy laws exist only in India and third-world crap countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen etc.

People are now clearly divided into us vs them. Left vs right. BJP vs non BJP. It doesn't matter what you say, the won't listen. Best is to be a free thinker and remain neutral. Enjoy the sh!t show from the sidelines. If you've read sawarkar, you'd also know that he doesn't even fit the BJP rhetoric as well. He was a man of his times, like Gandhi, like nehru, like Subhash etc. don't worry, be happy .

?? How much can you people lie just because of anonymity?? How do tens of students from NLUs make it to Oxbridge/Ivies every year for LLMs and PhDs and even teach in foreign universities then? So much BS on this site, dear God, mods why aren't you marking these as trollish when you clearly know them to be false?

As per a current student's LinkedIn post,

"A movie screening of the latest film Article 370 was arranged for 100+ students of NLIU, Bhopal on 24 March, 2024 at Cinepolis, Aashima Mall.

Mansarovar Global University Bhopal, and Cinepolis, Aashima Mall supported the initiative pro bono.

The movie showcases the story of the abrogation of Article 370 of the Constitution and the factors that necessitate the abrogation. (emphasis supplied)

The students enjoyed the movie and got to know the various legal intricacies involved in the entire procedure."

The post also mentions an alumnus's name who devised/supported the plan.

Was the screening compulsory to go to for some batch? What is Mansarovar Global University, why is it funding this for NLIU students instead of/apart from its own students? Why does the RW need to spread itself anymore, considering the BJP is certain to win after Ayodhya? Why is a private cinema theatre company financially supporting a move like this - are there more instances across the country? What does this say about the RW using student bodies/spaces for its nefarious ends? So many questions.

Other threads about decline of NALSAR and NUJS are in abundance. What exempts the NLS from this is nothing but probably the profs there and the fact that seniors at other places start your friendly interactions with a promise of a job and ask you to chill out. The idea of writing, something core to law has gone for a toss, rather an assembly line of corporate suckers is being crafted. What the law loses is itself. A sole remedy is enthusiast and highly qualified profs. That is so important for me that I would suggest one to not even opt for CLAT and study in institutions like SNU school of law, just have a look at the faculty there man.

With this, I just want to start a conversation on the decline, not of NLUs but law.

Not in NALSAR per my experience. I know at one point we had about 60 people enrolled. This is mid to late 2010s. And I don’t know if any one of them was full time. The last one I remember being full time is Payala Narayan (spelling could be very wrong, but those who know will know). And this was way back. A couple of years before him we had that Haryanvi dude - Saangu bhaiya. And Nigam/Nikam. Maybe there was one other guy after this lot, was in the Air and Space thingie. Never spoke with him. So not sure on the name.

Anyhow, not many people did full time PhDs. Not many do even today.

PS: the 6/7 odd people who did integrated LLM-PhD were definitely full time. And financially supported well by the institution. Sorry, forgot about them. In my head it was a separate program.

internally. She kept it within the firm. They didnt. Shes a team player. You lose a match- you put up a brave face and you go back home and watch game film and figure out who is messing up and why. The folks who tried to cancel her for "toxicity"- they made the firm look bad. twice. first because they messed up, second because they put this stuff online.

she didnt berate. She set them right, told them their behaviour was being noticed, and that the error had made the firm and her look bad and that this was a failure. She didnt put the email on the internet. The associates did that- to humiliate her. Shes supposed to be kind and mothering and nice- and shes supposed to take the blame for their eff up. She failed this by writing an email addressed to people in the team and the associates where she told them what was what. But they have a free reign no? to cancel her with a mob online? to shirk responsibility for their eff up?

Oh I completely agree with you. I was talking about today's situation. Back in 2013- Sid C could have easily taught it. His political obligations and interpretation of statutes electives did cover many important jurists anyway. Manav did the legal theory llm at NYU- he could have taught it. Ajey could definitely have taught it. They made these guys teach contracts or something iirc. It was embarrassing. I think it was just the powers that be being territorial and not trusting younger faculty even when there was a desperate need.

The legal methods module is supposed to be some ersatz jurisprudence course but it really does a poor job at both teaching jurisprudence and at teaching methods. So you have second year students who cannot accurately tell you the ratio of olga tellis or what a grundnorm or core and penumbra mean. The course clearly had an ideological bent and did a disservice to positivist scholarship because of the teachers beliefs. I got a D in the course and I still came away believing ridiculous things about positivists and even more ridiculous things about natural law theories.

But what compounds that error is the failure through the years to not offer the jurisprudence course consistently enough by someone who isnt an idealogue, just a scholar.

SC's classes were the first time i had a not-lopsided fair representation of positivism - because we actually read HLA Hart and Joseph Raz. Overnight I changed my POV and his course saved me from the ignorance and knowledge bubble created by more left wing professors on campus who do not want to actually engage deeply with their opponents.

Rights talk is getting crazy in law school where anything anyone wants is a "right" . as if the government/ university/ increase authority here is some santa claus that exists to fulfil wishes instead of yknow- a people created institution that has to balance rights of several stakeholders who disagree. All of this can be headed off with basic jurisprudence course.

We dont respect the dead because theyre dead. We respect the dead because they have living family who shouldnt have to put up with juvenile petty attacks after a tragedy. I hope when someone you love dies- no one goes online to post nonsense about how they were a bad person because they had political opinions someone didnt agree with.

If you cannot bare minimum be a good compassionate person to people you saw everyday- you have no hope at all of being any kind of moral adult or any kind of political activist.

If you really think theres nothing objectionable about what you did here- go ahead and tell people in real life- tell your parents and aunts and uncles and tell your professors and tell superiors at internships about your disgusting post. Tell them you enjoy dragging the reputations of dead kids because it makes you feel taller. Have the inch of courage to write the defamatory comment in your own name. Coward.

Most UK law firms offer these as well, and they make them work as rough as our 'law firms'. The difference is these millions of partners don't rake in the kind of dough the foreign partners do. Starting salary at a good law firm in the UK for a TC is 55,000 pounds that becomes 1,25,000 pounds once you get a perm position. In the USA, starting salary is 1,25,000 right out of law school in 'big law', some places go upto 2,00,000 dollars. Even adjusting for PPP, 19.5 lpa (only Trilegal) does not compute anywhere near 200000 dollars, especially in Mumbai or Delhi. We're being shafted on salaries. No need to give us perks, improve salaries for everyone across all firms and lit chambers.

Our entire industry is notoriously inefficient and low revenue generating - what makes you think the people who want associates to work 70+ hours a week for measly hourly pay (when converted - monthly pay/hours worked) will give them any such amenities as a firm policy?

There are some good partners who try and get their team members some stuff here and there, but nothing to really offset the misery of the intial years in law

Hey. As someone who left the B&F space and is a first generation lawyer with no legal family background.

Best option is to fall back on existing network - that means asking your college seniors who work in Gen Corp/ PE/ VC/ practice area you like - if their team is open to hiring new people. You’ll start as an A0 but they will get someone with 6 months experience.

Or track down B&F folks who have switched practice areas. Ask them how they are doing and see if they can recommend you somewhere.

mentally prepare to face multiple rejections but keep going.

Target Tier 2 firms as Tier 1 is more rigid about hiring folks from other practice areas. (although not impossible)/ target teams which do mix of B&F and Corp as they maybe more open to hiring you.

Lookout for all these Tier 1 partners who often breakaway and start their own boutique firms. They are looking out for people who want to work with them without the Tier 1 tag. You’ll get good exposure working there in a decent professional environment and they maybe be more open to hiring you.

Don’t end up in Capital Markets/ project finance just because you need a job. High chance that will make your mental health worse.

Most importantly- think outside the box - there are opportunities in various places, you just need to figure out where the market gap is.

All the best!